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I think im gonna do it fellas, I finally have the money and resources to make it happen albeit on. shoestring budget
I'm gonna buy 2-3 acres in the woods in oregon and build an offgrid cabin on it
any of you /out/ists taken the offgrid cabin pill yet? howd it go?
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Do it in Washington. No state income tax, the property tax is comparable, and you can just drive to Oregon for no sales tax. And the people suck slightly less.
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>>2500079
Feel like 2-3 acres isn't enough
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>>2500079
That 2x4 propping up the wall looks jenkey as fuck and this setup would be invaded by insects and mice.
10/10 concept 5/10 execution
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>>2500079
Don't build picrel. That cabin is for tourists in the summer. You need something practical and sturdy.
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OP you should build an earthship
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Buddy of mine did this. Once he ran out of gas money he was fucked. Had to walk or bicycle everywhere. Couldn’t make it work for lack of money.
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Keep in mind most states and all provinces have tons of laws on what types of property can do what. Very few properties are zoned for offgrid full time living. They put a lot of work into making sure you live in a pod and eat bugs. I'm getting tired of the innawoods leaving society larp on this board. Hell even teds lifestyle he lived is almost impossible to do in this day and age.
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>>2500315
Not really a larp, its pretty easy to do. plenty of placed zoned rural residential allow you to live full time in campers/cabins/tiny homes, and plenty more places have nobody there to check to see if your abiding by the zoning laws cus your property is in the middle of the fucking woods.
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>>2500079
How much have you saved?
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>>2500315
Wtf are talking about? Nowhere is gonna stop you from gardening and most counties have few regulations regarding livestock. Hell even in lots of municipalities keeping laying hens is perfectly legal as is having an apiary.
Septic tanks and wells are extremely common outside of town. And no one is gonna know if you build a composting outhouse out of sight.
Your biggest obstacle would be heating, but getting mineral and logging rights to your land isn't impossible. Picking up deadfall and collecting old pallets is good way to get free firewood. Solar is expensive but doable.
Try living in the real world and stop getting you information from retards on the internet.
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>>2500322
$500
Quitting my wagie job after Thanksgiving. Fuck this modern society bros.
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>>2500335
kek
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>>2500079
Where do you poop?
Where do you wash?
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>>2500343
lets not get ahead of ourselves with such luxuries, this man is trying to leave modern society
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>>2500203
>That cabin is for tourists in the summer
hardly fit for that even, it's a shack for a woodpile if anything
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>>2500346
this is something you build on the edge of the lake to lounge in between swims while the larger house is up the property where you got build rights.
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>>2500163
a woman made this, although her husband is pretty awe inspiring insofar as his competence.

Bushradical is his channel
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>>2500343
i dig a well and a septic field retard
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>>2500079
Op don't build picrel.Even a chicken coop is sturdier than that
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Oh no some stupid wants to life happy ever after in da woods with out providing anything for society or pay taxes for living, burn his family and kill his chickens.
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>>2500463
OP here fortunately/unfortunately I currently have a seasonal careerpath (wildland firefighter) so I have 4-6 months off a year to just fuck off from society and do what I want as long as I wisely ration my money. I just want to escape the faggotry for as long as possible bros..

to everyone saying not to build the a frame, its judt a random pic I found for the thread, what i want to build is either a more classic looking small wood cabin or I've been playing with the idea of building 3-4 partially underground aircrete dome rooms connected via hallways. I could decorate the outsides of them all psychedelic and then rent out the place on airbnb for $200 a night to wayward portlanders if I feel like it. good idea?
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>>2500079
I moved to a old farm and its fairly off grid, it has electric but was built in the 1870's so it has hand pump wells and root cellars. See if you can find a good wood stove off of some suburban asshole before you leave. Chances are they're weren't used much and almost new. Also see if you can get a honda eu3000is generator for temp electric, they are fuel efficient and super quiet.
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>>2500335
Here's the secret strategy I don't post in the maladaptive daydream threads cus those ppl don't deserve it. Find a large amount of acreage for sale online that's overpriced for it's incredibly large size, live somewhere hidden in the treeline there and periodically check if the property is still fro sale, if it is you're good.

Also buy water tight home Depot buckets and fill them up with dried and canned goods to bury in advance.
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>>2500470
>I've been playing with the idea of building 3-4 partially underground aircrete dome rooms connected via hallways. I could decorate the outsides of them all psychedelic and then rent out the place on airbnb for $200 a night to wayward portlanders if I feel like it. good idea?

idk man this doesn't sound very off grid to me
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>>2500487
it would be my offgrid mushroom gnome home sometimes then be a source of passive income when im busy elsewhere
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>>2500507
If it's truly off the grid, I don't think many people would be interested. Urbanites need their electronics.
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>>2500613
you can still have electricity, electronics, and even internet connectivity without being on the grid anon. the grid is an actual thing you connect to for power and water and shit, its not just some vague notion of society at large.
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record your daily chores and upload it to youtube and it'll probably pay for itself in ad revenue.
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>>2501095
not a bad idea desu
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>>2500079
>>2500145
op in 1 year: https://mynorthwest.com/931401/gingerbread-house-snoqualmie-child-porn/
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>>2501427
You're being awfully generous assuming OP would even be able to build anything. This is the more likely outcome:

https://katv.com/news/offbeat/7-foot-alligator-found-living-in-storage-container-with-owner-pierce-county-washington-calf-animal-control-cow-sick-mattress-tub-illegal-possession
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>>2500079
>any of you /out/ists taken the offgrid cabin pill yet? howd it go?
I've been off grid for 5 years but get called a larper whenever I post so kind of gave up contributing. I bought a cheap single bedroom cottage in rural NE Victoria (australia) because it was close to a dairy farm I was managing that was already on septic and tank water. Everything works. I have a normal kitchen and office and can blare music and play video games like any other person. All my power tools are corded but the inverter has no trouble powering a pressure washer or angle grinder. A few solar panels and an inverter was all it took to take it completely off grid. Having the rain water tank at ground level is the biggest drain on my power though, every time I turn a tap there's a 50W jet pump that goes brrrr and draws the same power as a microwave running on high. Keep your rain water at roof-gutter level instead of ground level to allow gravity to keep the water pressure up so you can at least shit and shower if the power goes out. My house looks like any other 1960's Australian fibro cottage but I take a working holiday every couple of years to Taree as a cattle drover and stay in pic-related.

I want to talk about how hard it is to be green, but it really isn't. I just gifted most of my shit to grateful friends when I was 28ish and have room to move now
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>>2501453
Wrong picture lolle. "box" as in the cabin, not the planter box
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>>2501427
Fuck, nevermind. He should stay in Oregon, as close to Eugene as possible
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>>2501454
looks comfy anon, youre living the dream
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>>2500079
>water source
>fuel (trees, brush, coal even)
>arable/huntable land
>restricted avenues of approach
>abutting federal land/national park (no tract housing or minimal logging/industrial usage for neighbors shitting up the area
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You can get 40 acres in northern MN for like $30k
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>>2500557
Shit they are fheap
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>>2500079
Didn't someone just repurpose an old chicken coop to a residence in /diy/?
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>>2501444
>7-foot-alligator-found-living-in-storage-container-with-owner-pierce-county-washington-calf-animal-control-cow-sick-mattress-tub-illegal-possession
Fucking hell I don't even need to read the article.
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>>2500079
if you can find a small, 2-3 acre plot of land here in oregon that's remote enough to do what you describe i'd be absolutely amazed.

remote usually means 20-30+ acre plots
2-3 acre plots usually means it's just outside of town, but they sure as shit aren't remote.

oregon is one of the worst states in the country for 'off grid'. the planning goals the counties use for permitting/land use are geared for farm/timber. hell, here in lane county the nimpkish decision basically means NO development for plots under EIGHTY acres.

of course if you're foolish enough to yolo it, you might not be happy with how it turns out for you.
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>>2502349
its not all that remote, im looking at plots in klamath county, most are outside of small towns like bonanza. I know certain areas in klamath county are real shit holes so im trying to avoid those. From what ive gathered you dont need any sort of permits to build a "tiny house" just about anywhere in oregon as long as its not zoned recreational/forestry, it just needs a permanent foundation and has sizing limitations
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>>2500146
It's not.
An acre is 210 feet x 210 feet.
If you had 4 acres and stood in the middle and threw a baseball in any direction as hard as you could it would land outside of your property.

You always want to start with as much property as possible.
With 2-3 acres you can still smell your neighbor's farts.
10 is the bare minimum.
25 is a lot better.
50 you start to feel secluded.
I have 15 and wish I would have bought the other 15 plot next to me.
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>>2502508
Add onto that siting standards; and you can still own 20+ and have neighbors 60ft away. (As in, jurisdiction wants houses clustered together)
We’re on 7 (western OR) and our neighbors are about 100’ away. Way too fucking close. Luckily the west and southern property lines abut BLM forest, so no chance of encroachment anytime soon.

We started out 3.x acres and due to neighbor proximity took out a heloc to buy the 4 acres on the opposite side to prevent any other shitty neighbors and annoying noise that they’d bring with them.
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>>2502512
>taking out a heloc to buy more land
are you retarded
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>>2502563
Well yes, but not because of the heloc. 50k to double our acreage and forever prevent development/neighbors/some rich CA trashfugee using the land as a dirt bike course or some shit is totally worth it.
Push come to shove the timber on the land would be worth more than we paid within a decade anyways (not that I plan on having it logged, but the option is always there)
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>>2500486
How to get shot for trespassing 101
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>>2502781
Ahh yes those famous armed property sales middlemen who patrol their forests with shotguns???? Lol
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>>2500079
>oregon
lol enjoy 1000 people literally 100 feet away from you.
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>>2500079
How much are your shoestrings?

I am currently building a small home designed like an Earthship. Most of the labor is coming from me, my family, and some volunteers....but I would not describe the cost as shoestring.
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>>2502806
Portland faggot detected. Oregon ranks 39th in population density.
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>>2500145
Fuckoff were full
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>>2502817
only gonna have about 10 grand for building the cabin after buying the land
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>>2502508
I don't think an average person can throw a ball 210', but regardless of that, if it's well-treed, you can be quite nicely enclosed.
I bought a parcel that's more than I needed (35 acres) that's on a slope with ridges on it too. It's more than enough but also, for people just starting out, the size of the land is hardly the challenge; it's learning the off-grid aspect, the independence, the food growth and storage, etc.
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>>2500079 (OP)
Work in progress. Put about $7k into her so far; want to figure out something that will be cheap or free for the siding.
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>>2504845
looks great anon
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>>2501454
is that a kei truck? Please post ur truck and tell us about it. Any regrets? Torn between just wanting a kei truck for the sake of it vs a 90s small pickup like a ranger which seems more practical.
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>>2501453
Just hook your toilet tank up to a smaller rain water tank then. Also drain the sink into the toilet tank.
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>>2504845
Fire treated wood for minimum maintenance, the search term is yakisugi. No mold, algea or insects on coal!
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>>2504845
is there a wood stove for heat?
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>>2502508
the point your making in your post is valid, but not quite entirely accurate. an acre is 43,560 square feet, it does NOT mean it has to be rectangular or even close. the common way to think of an acre though is a football field without the end zones.

example, there's a property down the lane from us that's next to the river, it's probably 60 feet wide, but really really long. surveyors marked it 2 acres and some change.

but basically buy as much land as you can; it's never, ever enough. but figure out where you'd actually be able to build, it really kind of sucks having a ton of land but the county fucks you by saying "you must build your dwelling as close to the road/other neighbors as possible, because fuck you" i'd rather have 10 acres with a secluded house than 100 acres, but forced to build on the corner of the property, 60' away from obnoxious hillbilly trash.
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>>2500146
Any land you own is better than nothing. If you own land you are free.

>>2500163
While the price will need to be adjusted for inflation, here is a suitable cabin design that one person can setup easily enough in a week or two if they pace themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTT5kC4V54o
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>>2500315
>he knows the government passes laws to keep him trapped in the city
>yet he follows those laws anyways
Destined for the pod.
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>>2500343
>Where do you poop?
https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Indicator-Traveling-Roadtripping/dp/B07218B4DQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2LLZMH6WREIRB&keywords=portapotty&qid=1670207587&sprefix=portapotty%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-3
>Where do you wash?
https://www.amazon.com/CAMPLUX-ENJOY-OUTDOOR-LIFE-AY132/dp/B01CJPU6JI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=UTA717JJFSWE&keywords=propane+camp+shower&qid=1670207667&sprefix=propane+camp+shower%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-4
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How hard is it to build a tiny cabin by yourself?
Something like 8x6
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>>2505445
Not very. Some pier blocks, 4x4 posts, 2x4 framing and plywood is all you’d need.

Just finished a greenhouse that’s 8x12; was around 2k for materials (800 was due to the roof and southern wall - suntuff panels aren’t cheap)

The bushradical dude has a very comprehensive video on his YT channel that outlines exactly how to do it.
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>>2505452
Thanks
Do you need a lot of tools beyond the basics? The location for it doesn't have electricity, so I'd rather not have to get a generator for a table saw and stuff like that
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>>2505454
Umm a circular saw and a drill at least.. a table or miter saw makes things easier.

HD rents out generators if needed though?
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>>2505510
Yeah I suppose I could rent one, it would probably be impossible to do it properly without one
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you need 40 acres to hunt lol
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>>2505585
I managed to build >>2504845 only using battery powered Dewalt tools, but my neighbor let me charge my shit at his place during the day. For you it might be a tradeoff, either spend several hundred $ on batteries (FlexVolt is absolutely worth the price), or rent a genny.



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