I think im gonna do it fellas, I finally have the money and resources to make it happen albeit on. shoestring budgetI'm gonna buy 2-3 acres in the woods in oregon and build an offgrid cabin on itany of you /out/ists taken the offgrid cabin pill yet? howd it go?
Do it in Washington. No state income tax, the property tax is comparable, and you can just drive to Oregon for no sales tax. And the people suck slightly less.
>>2500079Feel like 2-3 acres isn't enough
>>2500079That 2x4 propping up the wall looks jenkey as fuck and this setup would be invaded by insects and mice.10/10 concept 5/10 execution
>>2500079Don't build picrel. That cabin is for tourists in the summer. You need something practical and sturdy.
OP you should build an earthship
Buddy of mine did this. Once he ran out of gas money he was fucked. Had to walk or bicycle everywhere. Couldn’t make it work for lack of money.
Keep in mind most states and all provinces have tons of laws on what types of property can do what. Very few properties are zoned for offgrid full time living. They put a lot of work into making sure you live in a pod and eat bugs. I'm getting tired of the innawoods leaving society larp on this board. Hell even teds lifestyle he lived is almost impossible to do in this day and age.
>>2500315Not really a larp, its pretty easy to do. plenty of placed zoned rural residential allow you to live full time in campers/cabins/tiny homes, and plenty more places have nobody there to check to see if your abiding by the zoning laws cus your property is in the middle of the fucking woods.
>>2500079How much have you saved?
>>2500315Wtf are talking about? Nowhere is gonna stop you from gardening and most counties have few regulations regarding livestock. Hell even in lots of municipalities keeping laying hens is perfectly legal as is having an apiary. Septic tanks and wells are extremely common outside of town. And no one is gonna know if you build a composting outhouse out of sight.Your biggest obstacle would be heating, but getting mineral and logging rights to your land isn't impossible. Picking up deadfall and collecting old pallets is good way to get free firewood. Solar is expensive but doable.Try living in the real world and stop getting you information from retards on the internet.
>>2500322$500Quitting my wagie job after Thanksgiving. Fuck this modern society bros.
>>2500079Where do you poop?Where do you wash?
>>2500343lets not get ahead of ourselves with such luxuries, this man is trying to leave modern society
>>2500203>That cabin is for tourists in the summerhardly fit for that even, it's a shack for a woodpile if anything
>>2500346this is something you build on the edge of the lake to lounge in between swims while the larger house is up the property where you got build rights.
>>2500163a woman made this, although her husband is pretty awe inspiring insofar as his competence.Bushradical is his channel
>>2500343i dig a well and a septic field retard
>>2500079Op don't build picrel.Even a chicken coop is sturdier than that
Oh no some stupid wants to life happy ever after in da woods with out providing anything for society or pay taxes for living, burn his family and kill his chickens.
>>2500463OP here fortunately/unfortunately I currently have a seasonal careerpath (wildland firefighter) so I have 4-6 months off a year to just fuck off from society and do what I want as long as I wisely ration my money. I just want to escape the faggotry for as long as possible bros..to everyone saying not to build the a frame, its judt a random pic I found for the thread, what i want to build is either a more classic looking small wood cabin or I've been playing with the idea of building 3-4 partially underground aircrete dome rooms connected via hallways. I could decorate the outsides of them all psychedelic and then rent out the place on airbnb for $200 a night to wayward portlanders if I feel like it. good idea?
>>2500079I moved to a old farm and its fairly off grid, it has electric but was built in the 1870's so it has hand pump wells and root cellars. See if you can find a good wood stove off of some suburban asshole before you leave. Chances are they're weren't used much and almost new. Also see if you can get a honda eu3000is generator for temp electric, they are fuel efficient and super quiet.
>>2500335Here's the secret strategy I don't post in the maladaptive daydream threads cus those ppl don't deserve it. Find a large amount of acreage for sale online that's overpriced for it's incredibly large size, live somewhere hidden in the treeline there and periodically check if the property is still fro sale, if it is you're good. Also buy water tight home Depot buckets and fill them up with dried and canned goods to bury in advance.
>>2500470>I've been playing with the idea of building 3-4 partially underground aircrete dome rooms connected via hallways. I could decorate the outsides of them all psychedelic and then rent out the place on airbnb for $200 a night to wayward portlanders if I feel like it. good idea?idk man this doesn't sound very off grid to me
>>2500487it would be my offgrid mushroom gnome home sometimes then be a source of passive income when im busy elsewhere
>>2500203It’s definitely a poor design for the US, but not because it isn’t “sturdy.” A-frames originated in Northern Europe it quickly became more popular in parts of the US as winter retreats. Having a star tire that’s all room maximizes the amount of radiant heating it receives from the sun, warming the inside. They’re extremely hot in most of the US during the summer, and any with a loft will be intolerable. The steep roof means there’s no worry about snow load.OP should look into a Tuff Shed. They’re small site built structures that come as a kit, with delivery and construction priced in. They used to sell actual dwelling kits, some that were two stories and had garages, but have moved away from that and now only seem to offer small sizes. They’re not insulated or finished on the inside. It is cheaper to buy all of the materials and build one yourself. You have to weigh the materials cost, your lack of know-how, the time it will take you, the hassle of most likely doing all of the work yourself, the tools you might not have, and the pride of having built it against just buying one and having it up in a day or two but possibly being rushed by the cheapest bidder. You’ll still have to insulate and finish the inside. House kits were super popular in the late 19th century in rural areas (“the Wild West”). There are still a few companies making them, but they’re usually legit houses rather than single room cabins. And they all seem outrageously expensive for what they are.
>>2500507If it's truly off the grid, I don't think many people would be interested. Urbanites need their electronics.
>>2500613you can still have electricity, electronics, and even internet connectivity without being on the grid anon. the grid is an actual thing you connect to for power and water and shit, its not just some vague notion of society at large.
record your daily chores and upload it to youtube and it'll probably pay for itself in ad revenue.
>>2501095not a bad idea desu
>>2500079>>2500145op in 1 year: https://mynorthwest.com/931401/gingerbread-house-snoqualmie-child-porn/
>>2501427You're being awfully generous assuming OP would even be able to build anything. This is the more likely outcome:https://katv.com/news/offbeat/7-foot-alligator-found-living-in-storage-container-with-owner-pierce-county-washington-calf-animal-control-cow-sick-mattress-tub-illegal-possession
>>2500079>any of you /out/ists taken the offgrid cabin pill yet? howd it go?I've been off grid for 5 years but get called a larper whenever I post so kind of gave up contributing. I bought a cheap single bedroom cottage in rural NE Victoria (australia) because it was close to a dairy farm I was managing that was already on septic and tank water. Everything works. I have a normal kitchen and office and can blare music and play video games like any other person. All my power tools are corded but the inverter has no trouble powering a pressure washer or angle grinder. A few solar panels and an inverter was all it took to take it completely off grid. Having the rain water tank at ground level is the biggest drain on my power though, every time I turn a tap there's a 50W jet pump that goes brrrr and draws the same power as a microwave running on high. Keep your rain water at roof-gutter level instead of ground level to allow gravity to keep the water pressure up so you can at least shit and shower if the power goes out. My house looks like any other 1960's Australian fibro cottage but I take a working holiday every couple of years to Taree as a cattle drover and stay in pic-related.I want to talk about how hard it is to be green, but it really isn't. I just gifted most of my shit to grateful friends when I was 28ish and have room to move now
>>2501453Wrong picture lolle. "box" as in the cabin, not the planter box
>>2501427Fuck, nevermind. He should stay in Oregon, as close to Eugene as possible
>>2501454looks comfy anon, youre living the dream
>>2500079>water source>fuel (trees, brush, coal even)>arable/huntable land>restricted avenues of approach>abutting federal land/national park (no tract housing or minimal logging/industrial usage for neighbors shitting up the area
You can get 40 acres in northern MN for like $30k
>>2500557Shit they are fheap
>>2500079Didn't someone just repurpose an old chicken coop to a residence in /diy/?
>>2501869They stopped making pic a few years ago. I guess it’s a pretty niche market, so demand just wasn’t there.The barn-style Tuff Sheds start at $16k for a 12x20 with a loft, but if you start adding windows or cement siding that price goes up. Then it’s up to the buyer to install plumbing and electrical himself, then a floor, insulation, and drywall (or paneling if you want to go even cheaper/easier). It’s the most realistic solution.
>>2501444>7-foot-alligator-found-living-in-storage-container-with-owner-pierce-county-washington-calf-animal-control-cow-sick-mattress-tub-illegal-possessionFucking hell I don't even need to read the article.
>>2500079if you can find a small, 2-3 acre plot of land here in oregon that's remote enough to do what you describe i'd be absolutely amazed.remote usually means 20-30+ acre plots2-3 acre plots usually means it's just outside of town, but they sure as shit aren't remote.oregon is one of the worst states in the country for 'off grid'. the planning goals the counties use for permitting/land use are geared for farm/timber. hell, here in lane county the nimpkish decision basically means NO development for plots under EIGHTY acres.of course if you're foolish enough to yolo it, you might not be happy with how it turns out for you.
>>2502349its not all that remote, im looking at plots in klamath county, most are outside of small towns like bonanza. I know certain areas in klamath county are real shit holes so im trying to avoid those. From what ive gathered you dont need any sort of permits to build a "tiny house" just about anywhere in oregon as long as its not zoned recreational/forestry, it just needs a permanent foundation and has sizing limitations
>>2500146It's not.An acre is 210 feet x 210 feet.If you had 4 acres and stood in the middle and threw a baseball in any direction as hard as you could it would land outside of your property.You always want to start with as much property as possible.With 2-3 acres you can still smell your neighbor's farts.10 is the bare minimum.25 is a lot better.50 you start to feel secluded.I have 15 and wish I would have bought the other 15 plot next to me.
>>2502508Add onto that siting standards; and you can still own 20+ and have neighbors 60ft away. (As in, jurisdiction wants houses clustered together)We’re on 7 (western OR) and our neighbors are about 100’ away. Way too fucking close. Luckily the west and southern property lines abut BLM forest, so no chance of encroachment anytime soon.We started out 3.x acres and due to neighbor proximity took out a heloc to buy the 4 acres on the opposite side to prevent any other shitty neighbors and annoying noise that they’d bring with them.
>>2502512>taking out a heloc to buy more landare you retarded
>>2502563Well yes, but not because of the heloc. 50k to double our acreage and forever prevent development/neighbors/some rich CA trashfugee using the land as a dirt bike course or some shit is totally worth it.Push come to shove the timber on the land would be worth more than we paid within a decade anyways (not that I plan on having it logged, but the option is always there)
>>2500486How to get shot for trespassing 101
>>2502781Ahh yes those famous armed property sales middlemen who patrol their forests with shotguns???? Lol
>>2500079>oregonlol enjoy 1000 people literally 100 feet away from you.
>>2500079How much are your shoestrings?I am currently building a small home designed like an Earthship. Most of the labor is coming from me, my family, and some volunteers....but I would not describe the cost as shoestring.
>>2502806Portland faggot detected. Oregon ranks 39th in population density.
>>2500145Fuckoff were full
>>2502817only gonna have about 10 grand for building the cabin after buying the land
>>2502508I don't think an average person can throw a ball 210', but regardless of that, if it's well-treed, you can be quite nicely enclosed.I bought a parcel that's more than I needed (35 acres) that's on a slope with ridges on it too. It's more than enough but also, for people just starting out, the size of the land is hardly the challenge; it's learning the off-grid aspect, the independence, the food growth and storage, etc.
>>2500079 (OP)Work in progress. Put about $7k into her so far; want to figure out something that will be cheap or free for the siding.
>>2504845looks great anon