Bic lighter. I would like to learn the traditional friction method.
>>2466842Lay a large log horizontally, crumble up some paper and make a small pile right next to the log, assemble small sticks on top of the paper in a pseudo tipi/lean-to, lay a couple large sticks on the sides of the tipi leaning against the log. Light the paper with a lighter and keep adding small sticks till all small sticks are burning, then keep leaning middle size sticks over the small stick pile. keep adding small sticks till the middle sticks start lighting, then start adding more middle sticks lean-to style against the big log. at some point it's a decent self-sustaining fire with enough embers then I add more large logs lean-to style. From there I arrange the large logs into a log cabin, tipi, or lean-to depending on what sort of fire I want/need
>>2466842using a camp stove instead because it's cleaner, faster, and better for the land
>>2466853Stoves aren't natural. Burnt wood helps the soil with its ash.
>>2466842I carry a small flask full of gasoline.
rub my erect penis against a piece of wood for a couple minutes or slam my balls against a rock but I generally try to avoid doing that as much as I can
>>2466858brainlet move, carry everclear instead, burns hotter, can sanitize wounds and if you ever see anything you wish you didnt just chug the flask.
>>2466857>removing all the fixed carbon and nitrogen and putting back into the atmosphere>helpingchoose onewhy do you think the middle east is a desert?
>>2466842I make cotton balls with wax.Pretty Easy to make, pretty Easy to use.
A lighter with Birch bark.
†bh it's a bic lighter, sometimes I use them fuel bricks you can get cheap from the good people at Coghlan's if it's really whett or windy.I always make an upside down fire (which is hot as hell, slow burning, low maintenance, and burns beautifully with whett wood) and here's my time-testing technique:>collect big logs or even dead stumps, whett, rotting, punky, solid, it's all good>those go in the bottom of fire, at least one dense layer but two tiers high if you can>break up heavy limbs and put those in a couple layers atop the big stuff>reserve a small pile to the side>break up branches and pile them up in a teepee or just a tangle of shit>reserve a small pile to the side>stuff the tangle of shit with twigs, moss, bark, leaves - anything small and as dry as possible; herein you would plant any fire starter bricks if you really need them>collect a shit ton of the thinnest and driest dead twigs you can find, organize them into dense, small bundles aka faggots>hold the bundle tightly and use your Bic to get the ends burning, like a wooden torch you see archeologists use in movies>once the flame takes purchase onto the faggot, carefully place it into the tangle of flammables>repeat with remaining faggots>keep this small fire atop the hulk of wood burning healthily for about 10mins with reserved woodstuffs>eventually the fire will descend into the limbs, which will create molten coals that will have a China Syndrome effect down into the logs, drying all the wood as it descends and burning accordingly>literally chill for like 5 hours without having to find more woodyou're welcome*this is also an Alfie-approved method
>>24668422 gallons of kerosene and a road flare
>>2466842Few gum tree leaves and it's away
>>2467062tell me about it :[
>>2466879Ash recharges the soil. Go learn how to farm.
depressing and extremely gay threadI use a firesteel
>>2466842Make teepeeMake tinder bundleLight tinder bundle with flint rodPut tinder bundle in teepeeSometimes I'll put in a piece of a cotton ball if I can't get the tinder fine enough
>>2466842pint of gasoline and a case of beer.(i don't really camp, but when i have a brush pile to burn, that's how it's done)yes, i am a bit of a redneck, i don't care.
>>2466860Gasoline actually soaks into wood and works better
The good ol' flint on the end of my cheap knife works well. If I'm fancy, matches/Bic combo in a watertight case works better. If I have prep time or I'm leaving from home/motorcycle camping, I make a cheater stick to throw in my bag by soaking a dense, small piece of wood in gasoline or lighter fluid, and taking the saturated one with me to be able to light with flint sparks. Whichever anon suggested a flask of everclear for fire/sanitation/sanity is a smart bastard, I will be doing that from now on, cheers for that. I'm also a fan of weird fire starts: used to be an army cadet, so Doritos or similar dry foodstuffs with sticky coatings works magic when all you have is sparks from your flint. I've even used Licorice All-sorts and a damaged reflective shelter blanket as "starters" to dry out the fire triangle in a winter camp pinch when some dumbfuck tried to make the fire steam by throwing snow on it at 11pm on a snowshoe trip. I miss being young and let loose into the woods in camo, en masse, with a bunch of other bumblefucks.
>>2466842Personally, I love using matches. Somehting about striking a match feels just right, or getting a fire going with just one.Other than that i like to use vaseline coated cotton balls and the ferro rod that came with my knife
Any recommendations for buying ferrocerium rods in Europe? I get that they all are more or less the same.Also, I need some way to insulate it, since I live near the sea.
>>2467948Nvm.https://www.reddit.com/r/preppers/comments/btdutm/we_bought_and_tested_40_ferro_rods_and_strikers/Turns out the one I was eyeing at varusteleka is already the right one.
>>2466879>why do you think the middle east is a desert?They overfarmed and ended up salting their land
>>2466879Probably because that piece of land used to be under an ocean in the distant past
>>2466842I cut wood into thin pieces and make a tent shape with them, then I put paper in the middle. Then I grab my butane torch and after dousing the wood in a bit of motor oil I light it up.
>>2466842Same as when i light my grill. I try to carry a couple of tumbleweeds. However, I try to have multiple ways of starting a fire. Obviously the bic lighter, a ferro rod, stormproof matches and a couple pieces of fat lighter. As important as having fire in the outdoors is, everyone should have a couple ways to start one.
Old dryer vent lint is Based and free and lights like nothing. Just need dry conditions
>>2468877This anon knows. These things will light even when wet. Another option is to keep dryer lint in a cardboard egg carton. You can cut the egg cartons into 4’s and carry around for an easy and effective fire starter
blowtorch at home, disposable lighter when out and about
>>2468914is that a device or a supplement
>>2468907and to keep them dry you can transport them in your egg suitcase
>>2466842Just like in your picture OP i use birch barkUsually i have dry bark rolled in pieces in my backpack but in my country 9 out of 10 times birch grows or lays dead somewhere around
>>2467965>>2467948I have a light my fire "army" firesteel and it's trivial to get tons of sparks from it
vaseline soaked cotton balls. Like actually melt the vaseline into a liquid and completely saturate the cotton balls. Store in a pill bottle you can get for free if you ask nicely at any pharmacy. Light the cotton balls with >bicif by myself or with one of my camping buddies >ferro rod if with normies/newbs
>>2466842if I have the room to bring one. pic related is the best way to start a fire. just set it and forget it. you can leave this bad boy for a few minutes to make ambers from the wettest of sticks. or just great for quickly starting a regular fire.if i cant bring one, a lighter on tinder with multiple levels of sticks ready to increment the fire.
>>2469880and also this thing right here. absolute best fire tool you can ever have.
I live near the sea and humidity is messed up. What's a good canister-type waterproof container I can put the ferro rod in?>>2469049Nice to hear!
>>2469882These look like a silly idea but they work so well.
>>2469882Wouldn't a lighter or even a match be better?
>>2466842321Unleash the seethe
>>2470966Not him but that's not for lighting a fire, you use it to blow very closely on the fire as it lights up. Personally I wouldn't use one because I want to depend on as little as possible.
>>2469374Do Vaseline soaked cotton balls work markedly better than a cheap pack of firelighters?
>>2466842I just use some white spirits (Coleman fuel, whatever you guys call it) and a lighter. Could do it by other means, but why bother unless necessary?
>>2466842Tbh I would use a bic lighter or matches, even though I do have a ferro rod in my "firekit". I generally use a camping stove though because it leaves no marks out in to the nature. You may call me autistic but I like the idea of not leaving trails to be followed by.
this man fears being "tracked easy"
>>2466842spitting barsalso cotton ball vaseline method
>>2471485idk but i guarantee you they're cheaper, go to a dollar tree or dollar store and buy a 100 count bag of cotton balls, a tub of generic vaseline, and a microwave safe bowl or container of some sort. go to any pharmacy and ask for some pill bottles for free scoop vaseline into microwave safe container and nuke until liquid, stick in cotton balls until saturated, stick them into pill bottle 100 fires for $3, less if you go to a bad neighborhood and shop lift
>>2469882absolute fucking this >>2470966you'd be surprised with how many fires I've started the next morning with nothing but tinder on hot ashes and blowing on it with pocket bellows
>>2466879goatsthey not only look evil, they ARE evil
>>2466879wood is renewable in a decadegas is renewable only on geological scaletry again, faggot
>>2466994Based Alfie enjoyer, wonder how he’s doing
>>2471768Cool story but this is a fire starting thread so again wouldn't a lighter or matches be better?
>>2470967>leaks fuel>runs out of flint>wheel jams with gunkBut it makes cool sounds at least
>>2473256>anon talks about starting fires>hurrr this is a fire starting threadyou've never started a fire before, have you
>>2473402What are you on
>>2473265Only one retard took the bait. I'm slipping
>>2470967I love zippos, good for you man! :)
>>2473402Hurrdurr not with just a bellows no I haven't
Bic and Firestarter tabs.But if I'm larping I like the fire plow. It's the only friction fire method I've ever done. And I think it's tarded to use your boot laces for a firebow because you need to be able to lace your boots in order to gather wood.
>>2470967ive had a zippo go dry in 4 days.
>>2466879They don't get enough annual rainfall to support the population and level of industrialization that took place over the last few thousand years.
>>2470967dont mind me, just beeing superior to you in every way
>>2466879>why do you think the middle east is a desert?Solar cycles. It will be green again
>>2466859Can I be the piece of wood?
>>2473806Except for the rust factor, mines got it bad
>>2473820i was just trying to bait out a response m8.The Zippo is more wind proof and has a larger tank.The Imco evaporates fuel slower and is more versetile by beeing able to remoeve the tank during operation. It also lights on the first try.Like any tool an Imco should be regularly maintained, that includes impregnating non stainless surfaces with a thin layer of oil, just like you would with a pocket knife.
>>2466879>carbonfuck off pseud
>dump wood in loose pile>pour gasoline>lose eyebrows
anyone else bring lint with them?
>>2469374Good tip about melting the vaseline. 1/2 a vaseline cotton ball will burn for around a minute, and can use them for lip balm or lube
>>2466842LightningGasoline close second
>>2470958After checking https://theprepared.com/gear/reviews/match/ and realising the recommended containers are out of stock I though I might just use a small steel bottle like the one on the left. Thoughts?It will fit the ferro rod and other firestarting equipment if needed.
>>2473785how'd you get it to last so long?