SAK replacement edition, pic related.Need some recommendations folks, $100 tops. Trying to decide if I stick with a SAK, move to a folder or perhaps even a small fixed blade.
>>2461079was that a victorinox?if you want a SAK just go to the victorinox site, they have a super granular filter that lets you pick knives by a checklist of features
I heard from the grapevine the swiss are outsourcing their SWISS. ARMY. KNIVES. To China.Any veracity to these claims?Been hesitant to pick up a Vic for that reason. Fucking leatherman skyrocketed like 60$ for the model I want, so fuck them also.
>>2461079also what do you even want to do with it? you know that people will start recommending you giant 40" machetes and $900 collector's knives
>>2461117>900$ collector knivesdon't you darehushhush nowshh sleep
I also recommend Bladeforums.comIt's nuts what you can find out there lolInformation going back like two decades its insane
>>2461079Here is their swiss sectionhttps://www.bladeforums.com/forums/multi-tools-multi-purpose-knives.786/
>>2461116Nonsense, not happening
Buy a Leatherman st300 to replace that lil SAK...
>>2461114>was that a victorinox?Wenger>>2461117>also what do you even want to do with it?I'm mostly a backpacker so I want a general purpose knife, I like SAKs but I don't like how they get some much garbage and muck inside after using the blade to food prep, so I think I'm ready to move to a fixed blade. I want something that I can have a full grip but less than 4inch cutting edge, but also non threatening look that I can edc or carrying when bike touring.>>2461199Although I also MTB I don't really have the need for the pliers, and I want something light.>>2461121Thanks, the rangergrip 79 is pretty sweet, It'll be something like that or a small fixed.
BASEDMADE checking in
Some of my outdoor assortment.
Can't go wrong with a USA made BUCK
>>2461235Awesome knife combo.
I recently picked up a couple BPS knives to try out since they were so cheap, really happy with them. I don't really think there is anything else I could recommend that would be better if you are wanting to try a fix blade without spending a bunch of money. This is the BPS HK1S
>>2461254This is the BS3FTS, basically a mora copy with a wood handle. I like both knives, this one performs a bit better in wood working, I prefer the sheath and looks of the other one though. I have ordered 2 of this particular model, and both came with slightly damaged tips from rough handling in shipping. I was able to fix them pretty easily by running the first 1/4 inch of the spine of the knife by the tip on the diamond stone, took like 15 seconds to fix.
>>2461116>outsourcing their SWISS. ARMY. KNIVES. To China.got a swisschamp with wood scales in July: they're still made in Switzerland
>>2461226>I want something that I can have a full grip but less than 4inch cutting edge, but also non threatening lookif you want something for food prep just get an opinel. if you want something specifically for food prep get an opinel effilé 12 or 15 they're fantastic portable kitchen knives
>>2461079Small fixed blade ftw. At least get down on a Leatherman Wave if you need multiple tools.Izula is a good starting point. Horizontal belt carry is so much nicer than more shit in your pockets.
>>2461234>all factory fresh>including the book>>2461226Go with the first response and get down on an Izula.
>>2461285knice knives but man... you should really wash that paracord... give it a good scrub with dish soap and let dry. that thing reminds me of homeless people's clothes
>>2461285>IzulaNot a fan of the handle nor of the coating.
>>2461281>multitool in brown and blacki learned the hard way, that thats how you loose a lethermen, now i have a skeletool in lime green.
>>2461300you can put a bright lanyard on it.
>>2461300I would’ve bought it in a bright color if I had the option at the time. I wrapped the Izula handle in some orange cord, and I wanted to get an orange handle on the Candiru but it was out of stock so I picked the next color that wasn’t flat black.>>2461291Fuck that. It would be dirty as hell again after a day or two or work. I’ll lysol it if needed.>>2461295>handleThere’s different scales, different cord wraps, or bare. G10 scales or whatever feel like any other good knoife.>coatingThat’s because it’s carbon. If you want a good stainless that isn’t shit, you’re going to be spending $$$. The coating has held up real well for me, and I’m way more of a fan of their carbon steel than I expected to be. Doesn’t rust with EDC use and a tiny bit of oil once every month or two after I sharpen it, tough as hell (I tend to snap tips prying stuff and both Esees have survived lots of abuse), and the carbon steel takes an edge super fast with basic sharpening and holds an edge better than any non-supersteel stainless I have owned.
Leatherman signal if you want a multi tool. I find it more useful than a sak. Holtzmans gorilla survival neck knife is a good fixed blade that's cheap and small. It has a good size and handle to it if you've got larger hands.
>>2461330for the price id rather get a wave and save a few bucks. I find the ferro rod and the sharpener gimmicky, i would rather get standalone tools (tho i wouldnt carry those tools anyway, as i dont need to sharpen a knife on a three day hike, and i prefer my IMCO for firestarting, but thats just me)
>>2461314>There’s different scales, different cord wraps, or bare.I know, it's tthe aesthetic that I'm not a fan, I very much prefer the one on the candiru for instance.
>>2461079SAKs are warrantied. Send that to the factory and they will fix it.Otherwise, upgrade to the Pioneer Harvester/Alox #7.
>>2461079small fixed blade + SAK replacement scissors
WHY IS LEATHERMAN SKYROCKETING IN PRICE PLS TELL ME
>>2461451buy now and double your money later
I'm looking a knife with a 7-10 inch carbon steel blade for clearing brush, branches, vines and doing general camp tasks. I need it to be tough enough to take a beating but still fairly budget ($50-$75). Any suggestions?I've considered ontarios sp line, but I've heard and seen negative things about them and I don't wanna piss away moneyAlso, reason I want a larger knife rather than a machete is mainly the fact it's a lot easier to carry, and also machetes are fairly thin so I worry if I'd break it trying to chop through a knot in a branch
>>2461496Buy a cold steel.... Either a knife or a machete. I have 2 knives and 1 machete from them. Toughest tools I own
>>2461496>carbon steel blade for clearing brush, branches, vinesI almost started typing "Just get a fucking billhook", but then > general camp tasksYeah, not going to prep food with a billhook.
>>2461451I found Leatherman Waves for $45 as Sears was dying a couple years ago. They had 2 left and I regret only buying one.
>>2461500My last knife in that role was actually a cold steel, tough as all hell but I broke the tip off by thowing it into a log (literally 5 minutes after I took this pic, in that very log)I've scoured cold steels catalogue, and while they have a good selection, they don't have one exactly how I want for cheap. They have the bowie machete, but it's a little too thin and a little too long for my tastes
>>2461513Fair points, I wish you luck in your search, bushman anon
I bought a thing.
Spanish/german army knife. 10$ at any military surplus store and they usually come with a pouch and a set of steel fork+spoon.
>>2461079Why not both? I keep a pocket knife in my pocket, and a SAK in my pack. It's a bit too heavy for a EDC and I find it's only the knife that I need 90% of the time.
>>2461116mine says Swiss made. Just bought it two weeks ago
>>2461500Cold steel sucks balls look up all the broken bushman videos on jewtube
>>2461513Tough but I broke it kek good one
>>2461608My 3 are great . Don't have a bushman tho.
>>2461610Reminder that I've put this knife through atleast a dozen trees and endless abuseAlso I was literally just chucking it at a piece of wood when it brokeYou can break the strongest knives if you act like a retard with it
>>2461226Sounds like youd be better off with a small-medium sized fixed blade and a multitool.For a MT, Leatherman is da weh. For a knife you might wanna try :- mora comp-mini leatherneck-Boker Plus Backdrop or yurco belt-ESEE Izula/candirou-ESEE 3-kabar wrench/skeletonProbably plenty more options for the price range.
>>2461667boker boker boker
>>2461536you just ruined your entire life.
>>2461655Read what you just typed then try again
>>2461670buy it or you are not epic.
>>2461673If I was a rich man, I'd have a wall of wartime daggers and knives.
>>2461670I have a real one, grandpa's war loot.
>>2461496>still fairly budget ($50-$75)Big knives like what you describe tend to be expensive or suck. If you like Scandis like I do, you could find a leuku. Seems to be exactly what you want.
>>2461451>company is now Leatherberg
>>2461681My grandfather died in a concentration camp.
>>2461696maybe one day you can follow in his footsteps
>>2461696Did he fall off a guard tower?>>2461513>My last knife in that role was actually a cold steeIf it filled the role well, why not just buy another one?
>>2461713Because it failed
>>2461716>the knife is tough as hell>but I broke it>I was being a retard, it's not the knife's fault>but I won't buy another because it failedanon, your thoughts are incoherentyou could buy another and not be a retard with italso if you like throwing things and you like cold steel, they sell a tomahawk called Trail Hawk that is probably going to make you very happy
>>2461671wouldn't be the first time
>>2461713>Did he fall off a guard tower?Damn, you know the joke.>>2461699He got drunk and fell from a guard tower.
>>2461713>If it filled the role well, why not just buy another one?I want an upgrade because despite it being good it's ultra budget and I want something I don't have to wrap the handles for a good grip>>2461745>anon, your thoughts are incoherentMaybe because >>2461716 isn't meI'll never understand why anons on here feel the need to reply for others, it causes too much confusion
>>2461692While a leuku sounds like a good option, most of those are rat tail tang. Are there any full tang options out there?
>>2461875It's called sarcasm but was also was true, if it hadn't failed would you be shopping for a new knife?
>>2461875>I'll never understand why anons on here feel the need to reply for others, it causes too much confusionI find that helpful but don't view it as them pretending to be me.
>>2461884>most of those are rat tail tang. Are there any full tang options out there?For $75 I can't think of anything. They probably do make full-tang leukus but they're going to be way out of your budget. As I said, big full-tang knives tend to be in the >150 if not >200 range. If you don't want to really abuse it, I'd say go for a leuku, it seems ideal for what you want to do.
>>2461875>I want an upgrade because despite it being good it's ultra budget and I want something I don't have to wrap the handles for a good gripFair enough. As an anon who bought a Bushman recently, I understand the pain.Have you looked at the knives from varusteleka.com? Namely the Skrama.20 cm (7.85") of blade, carbon steel, 4mm thick, the version with the plastic cover is about 70€.You might end up getting fucked with shipping and all that shit, dunno.
>>2461996>Namely the Skrama.>20 cm (7.85") of bladeDidn't even notice they have the 200 (7.85 inches) and the 240 (9.4 inches) for a couple more euros.Either of them could probably be worth a look.
>>2461913>if it hadn't failed would you be shopping for a new knife?I'd still look at options for a new one, but I likely wouldn't pull the trigger on any unless I had money to burn>>2461960This works if they're asking a general question, but when someone asks a particular person their opinion/viewpoint and someone else answers theres a lot of room for misinterpretation (like what happened with >>2461745)>>2461996I've seen those, and while it's a bit outside my budget I still will consider getting one
>>2462046So basically I was right that you're looking at a new knife cos it failed?Why you angry then??
>>2461496I like the Mora blade, and this particular handle, What's simliar but full tang?
>>2462121Mora Garberg is full tang but it costs like $100Everyone says it's a great knife, although it's not the same value for the price as the cheaper moras
>>2462126The Bushcraft Black is better and about $30 cheaper. No full tang but you'll still never break it.
>>2462140>No full tang but you'll still never break it.Personally I think full tang is a meme. I own two thick, full-tang knives. By all means I am sure they're infinitely more robust than 3/4 tang or whatever puukkot are like. I am sure that I could baton 20cm diameter logs with those knives without worrying that the knife would break. However this is such a fringe scenario I hardly think about it. These torture tests that people do with knives are something like people in infomercials nailing shit down with a frying pan. It's a fucking frying pan, not a hammer. Get a hammer to do that.Also a true full tang makes the knives substantially heavier. Heavy knives certainly feel nicer and more substantial but when you handle a knife that weighs 100 grams it tends to be more comfortable in the long run, no matter how well-balanced full-tang can be. It's a matter of preference and use cases.I've used my scandi for some 15 years and I never put it in a situation where it could snap in two. Pretty sure the same happens to people who use Moras IRL.
>>2462158Yeah it's mostly just a marketing thing for mora. There's no practical reason for a knife that small to be full tang instead of 3/4. They're targeting the the consooooomer bushcrafter demographic who just aren't satisfied with their already near perfect products because they don't have -insert meme buzzword here-I do have a full tang fixed blade knife myself, but ironically I abuse it far less than my mora.
Gentlemen is this the correct thread to ask about machetes? I got way into orienteering last year and I wish to enhance my draw busting abilities
>>2462211My cold steel has worked out good. This pic is from when it was new a few weeks back.(sorry KVD) I work in the forest.
>>2462158One of the main reasons I like the full tang is you don't have to worry about something going on inside your handle that you can't see, like the rat tail rusting away out of sight. >>2462121see>>2461258It costs less than $30, it is a wonderful knife.
>>2461496Cold Steel bushman or bushman bowie
>>2462236>something going on inside your handle that you can't see, like the rat tail rusting away out of sightThat's an OK concern but if the knife is made by a good company and you do a bit of maintenance I don't see it happening. How common is this?
>>2462411You will never be Seth Fieder
>>2462382Honestly, I am just paranoid and the only knife that I have that actually concerns me about this is my cheap mora.
>>2462046> it's a bit outside my budget Yeah, but it's probably the best match you're going to get as close as possible to your budget.And they were the first thing I thought of checking the prices of given your requirements.As other anons said, big knives tend to be overpriced as hell.
>>2462046>>2462580https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1edIpXBfFRwI dunno Bushman anon, by what you said you like in a knife this looks like a wet dream
How badly do you have to abuse a knife to break it as I see a lot of people only recommending full tang
>>2462664BATONGA BONG BONG
Anyone used marttiini knives, Worth a purchase?
>>2462761I've researched a bit some time ago and it's a popular opinion that they've become display knives / tourist brand. The good Marttini knives are vintage ones from the 60s or 70s, if you can snatch one of those - again, this is what people say - they're some of the best scandi knives you can get.
>>2462211I have a brazilian tramontia thats always served me well so far. The edges are fucky but if you clean them up they're fantastic for ~15 to 20 bucks
>>2462664How did that get disassembled?
>>2462931I think there's a screw at the bottom of the tang that locks the whole blade into the handle.
>>2461234I read that book last month! It's good.
>>2461681The design is cool. Are there any similar designs with good steel that are not sold by nazis?
>>2462664Why would you go for half tang when there are full tang options available?
>>2463024>>2461670Nvm. Just saw this. Those are fucking pricey.
>>2463015Bushcraft by Mors Kohanski is much better , if you get a chance to read it!
>>2463118Thanks! I just got recommended that book! If it was you, thanks again.>>2463078
>>2463024>>2463028fwiw they're not very practical knives, even as weapons. The grip in particular is terrible, my relatively small hand (size M mechanix glove) barely fits between the guards and the shape is awful.
>>2463146Well, glad to hear that. I lost my want for them.
>>2463145Not sure but enjoy :D have a good day
>>2463028>>2463149Daggers are beautiful but are the definition of a one-trick-pony.
>>2463375I have a fairbairn in each hemisphere. Not much use outside pigsticking. Pretty knives though.
>>2461566Spanish army, "la legión" exactly
>>2463375customs-negros don't like daggers
>>2463002Not seeing it, we must have a different model then, I'm using a glock field knife, both the FM78 and the FM81 look like this inside on mine
broke the sheath on my knifeanyone have any experience in making a custom sheath?
>>2464323I made one with paper (300gr/m2) for a naked kiridashi I work with at homesheaths are very simple things, you need a piece of leather that wraps around the knife and a strip that works as a buffer so the blade doesn't cut through the seamsyou have to leave some margin for the stitches and that's ityou don't really need specialized tools to make one from a piece of leather, it will just be uglier.
>>2464336This is a good tutorialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLehJ_dF2Zk
>>2461079>Be me>Britbong>Grow up thinking it’s illegal to have a blade in public>It’s not>It’s perfectly legal as long as it falls in certain requirements >Can have a multi tool or short bladed knife with no locking blade in public >Can use a SAK to open a bottle of mead in public and perfectly legal and the constabulary can’t do shit about it
>>2464323I made this one from a woman's handbag. Just used wire and some wooden offcuts for the interior.
>>2461226>I'm mostly a backpacker so I want a general purpose knifeIn that case you should stick with Victorinox, I recommend Huntsman, the best all-around EDC and outdoors-lite edition.>I like SAKs but I don't like how they get some much garbage and muck inside after using the blade to food prepI know it's a hassle but you should always keep your SAK clean. I carry it around in a small satchel, and inside of it I always carry cleaning stuff too, both dry and wet. Not that you wouldn't have to be cleaning any other knife, it's just SAK's require a bit more attention.>I want something that I can have a full grip but less than 4inch cutting edge, but also non threatening look that I can edc or carrying when bike touring.That's kind of an impossibility, both from a legal and practical perspective. The best knives are long, longer than the legal limit that is, and they are pretty threatening if they're lockable, the latter of which is a necessity for someone who spends most of his times outdoors. For the casual types, I'd still recommend Victorinox, since they have many legal-to-carry and non-threatening SAKs (it helps a lot that it has recognition too so authority figures are less likely to confiscate it).
>>2464550cheers, anon.i'd strongly recommend the alox bantam.
>>2462664God I love my glock 81 and its sheath. you are an actual retard if you get anything else, especially for its price
>>2465625saw back makes it automatically shitevery groove in the saw gathers stress that will eventually make your knife snap
>>2465625What makes this anymore than a cheap ka-bar/bayonet hybrid with a shitty sawback?I've never gotten the appeal of glock knives, is it purely military enthusiasts who buy them for civilian use or is there also a dedicated group of glockfags that will purchase and use any product produced by le glonk?
>>2463072Sorry for the really late response if you're even still here, but yeah, I know knives aren't really a good option for self defense over something like a gun due to the close range and likelihood of getting fucked up yourself... but imagine what it must feel like to cut some criminal up and stab them. I know better than to wander around sketchy neighborhoods looking for a fight, so I don't imagine I'll ever even get into that situation, but it doesn't stop me from feeling a little adrenaline at the thought of fighting for your life though.
>>2464550perkins makes some nice folders imo. i bought one not even realizing it was a uk legal knife.
>>2466415Aren't perkins those dubious pakistan damascus knives?
>>2461235what's the wood one?
>>2465756>>2465635you will break a gay-bar way faster than you will break a glock 81. the handle material is way better and stronger too. this knife will not beak no matter what, at 30 dollars, and it will not break at the tang like a gay-bar will. it looks way better too and the sheath is way better. hecho en Austria
>>2461496How about a Jääkäripuukko from Varusteleka?>Available with 110mm and 140mm blade lengths, doesn't affect the price.>Blade thickness is 4,2mm>Overmolded rubber grip for comfy winter use with bare hands>Wide tang running trough the grip>Carbon blade>Made in Finland>Price is anything from 45€ (no sheath) 90€ (with sheath) Remember that USD is stronger than euro at the moment though. Better for you 'Muricans.Generally it is a good bushcraft/infantry knife. Takes a lot of beating and will take the batoning with no issues.
>>2466738>JääkäripuukkoNTA. That's a nice knife but I really hate ricassos. Ever since I got a knife with a choil I'm never going back
>>2466743>Ever since I got a knife with a choil I'm never going backWhat choil are you talking about?
>>2466738I might if I have some money to spare and don't have other things to spend it onAnd personally, that seems a bit overbuilt for a puukko style knife. My pro c is half the thickness bladewise and it preforms like a champ at lighter woodwork and general use (and generally thinner blades preform better at such tasks). If I wanted something to put through a log or branches I'd opt for something a decent bit bigger (7-9 inches generally)I might get the skrama 200 though
>>2462761Marttiinis are for tourists. Get a an Iisakki Järvenpää puukko, they are actually good and they honour the osthrobothnian puukko traditions. Although they are expensive as well.
>>2466767Jääkäripuukko actually isn't a woodworking knife as you'd think of regural puukkos. It is closer to an all around survival knife. That's why it is so thick and big, so that you can chop, baton and process firewood with it. Also you can strike ferro rods with it. Essentially you could call it as their copy of the J. P. Peltonen's Sissipuukko M95 (English translation of the name would be "ranger/reconnaissance/guerrilla puukko"). A survival knife made for Finnish soldiers, and thus it is very popular amongst them. Varusteleka wanted to also get their cut from that market and launched their own jääkäripuukko line (jäger/Finnish infantry puukko).
>>2466765A ricasso is a section of unsharpened blade at the base of the knife. You can see it here>>2463375 for example. See that squarish section past the finger guard? That's a ricasso. This one also has a ricasso >>2462761A choil is a notch in the blade that helps you sharpen it. If it's big enough you can also stick a finger in there and grip the knife much higher up. You can see choils here>>2461235 and here >>2461112I'm not saying that knives with ricassos are shit, I just immensely prefer having a choil becuse it makes the knife way easier to sharpen. When you don't have a choil you can't really sharpen the whole useful length of the blade especially down at the bottom where it's the most useful.
So let me guess. You need more.
Which is the best knife for each price point, from a European perspective (imports from the US add import tax and duties to the cost).The bottom is dominated by Mora, we can all agree, I assume. prices in Euros.Morakniv Basic (10), Companion (14), Companion Heavy Duty (24), Bushcraft (44).But what's the best knife in the 100-150 Eur range? I've seen the Mora Garberg, but I want to know which are the alternatives.
>>2467089>what's the best knife in the 100-150 Eur range?I know this is an annoying answer but it really depends on what you like and what you want to do with it.Otherwise I can say it's the SOLDIERBEAST KILLBLADE PRO with its revolutionary sawback/canopener because it's my favorite knife, you know?
>>2466878>That's why it is so thick and bigThick yeah, but it's a bit short for a chopper imo. I'd want something atleast 6-7 inches bladewise before I start chopping branches with it
>>2467089Helle and terävä are 2 fairly nice mora alternatives, and condor while not being european is still a solid option
>>2467179Bushcraft training. So anything from carving to batoning.>>2467187Thank you. I've seen someone mention that instead of getting the Mora Garberg they would shell out 20 bucks more for a Fallkniven. Any more info on that?
>>2467197>Bushcraft training. So anything from carving to batoning.I'll shill the Lionsteel B series. Either the B35, B40 or B41. They're very similar knives with minor differences. The main difference with Scandi knives is, well, that they do not have a Scandi grind but a saber grind with a secondary bevel. Steel is Sleipnir which is a better version of D2. Fantastic Italian knives with great steel.
>>2467202These look nice too! The shilling is most welcome.
>>2467089>Companion Heavy Duty (24), Bushcraft (44).For what it is the HD is getting into "slightly overpriced" territory, but the pricing on the Bushcraft is just completely overpriced bullshit. At least in my personal certified poorfag opinion.
>>2467215Damn. What do you think about the Garberg?
>>2467207I have two knives of theirs and they're by far the best made and more robust knives I've ever handled. I've also owned a Karesuando for 15 years, but first of all I don't remember paying 200 euro for mine - I think they hiked the prices up quite a lot. I also think I got my knife when the company was still a small-scale family operation so I got a proper handmade knife for not too much money. At the time they only used Sandvik 12c27. Looking at more recent reviews I've seen a few complaints that they're getting sloppy. It might be that they've gone industrial but I honestly wouldn't shoot them down so readily. I just think that for something priced that high it's unacceptable to have the defects I've read about, lopsided grinds etc. That said my ~15 year old Boar is a great knife. It's just a really good knife. I'm also partial to birch as a handle material because they're literally nothing as comfortable as that, not even other woods. It has such a nice feel to it, gives a nice grip but doesn't wear on the hand, what a beautiful wood.I also don't own one so this is a bit of a blind recommendation, but Iisakki Jarvenpaa makes traditional puukkot that are very famous in Finland. They might not be to your taste because they look a bit funny, but they're beautiful knives.
>>2467233Thank you for all the details.The Iisakki Jarvenpaa look great too. They actually bring back memories. I might have seen these a decade ago.
>>2467237My only worry with the Jarvenpaa and why I never got one is that I got a feel they're collectors' knives because they're so decorative. Lots of people collect knives nowadays so there are many cases where a lot of effort goes into the fit and finish but the knife fails if you take it on the field. I would trust buying an ugly Mora or a Terava because you know you're buying function. When you buy a knife that is very decorative or very "traditional" you have to filter all the noise from collectors. Not saying they're bad knives, just that I'm a bit wary of dropping some 150 eurobucks on something that's mostly valued on the basis of how good or "traditional" it looks. I think it might also be what happened to Karesuando, they pack their axes with pieces of moose pelt for show but the axe has a bad grind because the collector won't notice.
>>2467246Yeah, they are pretty as hell, which is surprising for this kind of knife.
>>2467253Maybe a local Finn anon can say if the new Jarvenpaa are worth the price. It's obviously much easier to find old Marttini or Jarvenpaa puukkot in Finland. I know that new Marttini pukkot aren't very good and they're "tourist" knives. I think many Scandi knifemakers may be going that way... Lots of people just collect knives now so the quality is eroding. I've seen videos that show that lots of these old knives rotting in people's basements. You just have to take the time to restore the tool. Same with Billnas axes (the axe makers that eventually got acquired by Fiskars).
>>2467254Agh, that sucks... Well, I'll be around for the next days in case there are any other knife recommendations.>>2467089Just to clarify, I am not exclusively interested in traditional puukkot, but any knives that are fine for outdoors tasks that are in the 100-150 price range.Otherwise, I think I will default to the Mora Garberg stainless (please, nobody give me shit about High Carbon. I live near the coast and we have 200% humidity in this hellhole).
>>2467257>I am not exclusively interested in traditional puukkotsorry lol I think that's my fault, I warped the conversation because I'm a huge Scandifag. I'm going to be partial though and say that you should definitely be interested in knives that are at least inspired by the puukko, because that's the best bushcraft knife period.Another knife I can mention but not recommend because I don't own one is the Rokka Korpisoturi which is, in short, a hyper-modern puukko, or if you want to look it another way, a very high quality Mora. Well now Mora has the Garberg, but if you have issues with the Garberg there's that one to look at.
>>2467265Oh, no need to apologise at all! I don't know much, but all discussion about bushcraft knives is centered on scandi grind knives, so I follow you.>Rokka KorpisoturiThank you! This looks like a perfect one to compare to the Garberg. Sadly it's not stainless, but I was thinking about picking up a Mora Basic in High Carbon anyway, to see how it fares in here and how well can I maintain it.Thank you so much, anon!
>>2467278Getting a cheap carbon steel knife is not a bad idea, even just to get in the habit of maintaining your tools. Get a bottle of mineral oil to coat the blade, it's cheap and foodsafe and it also works on wood. That said I don't know how close to the sea you are but I've heard from people who brought carbon Moras at sea that they've seen them rust within hours, so it might be a good idea to go directly for a steel that is corrosion resistant.
>>2467297Oh, damn. Yeah, scratch that. Stainless or nothing. I can't deal with that for something I need to be dependable. Thank you once again. You've saved me a lot of pain.
How much does the depth of a knife matter?
>>2467325if it's below sea level it might be hard to get to when you need it.
>>2467325you mean the width of the blade? it depends on what the knife is made forgenerally a wide blade is more rigid/robust because there's more steel behind the edgeif you have a big knife that's not too long, a fat blade means that there will be more weight over that length so it will be better for chopping. It really depends on what knife you're looking at
Lionsteel with 20% off tomorrow.
Is a buck 119 a good buy for $90 in yurope?
>>2463375Funny thing is they found that clip-points penetrate better than daggers, so even with fighting, a Bowie-style blade is better.A KA-BAR is far better than a Fairbairn or Applegate for fighting and can be used for utility.
>>2467621I think I mean depth, or maybe height
>>2467753As long as it's legal.And it maintains an edge pretty decently too, if you need to get it sharper again, just do honing and stropping. Don't try and reach for any actual sharpeners cause you'll mess up the edge, unless it's chipped or something, which is really hard to do on this. And it might not feel sharp out of the box, but trust me it is. It'll shave your hair off very easily. There just isn't any micro serrations, it's got a really clean edge.>t. Pleb who didn't feel like it was sharp enough and tried to sharpen it with shitty equipment and is now trying to unfuckulate it with better stuff. But it's a tool, it's meant to be used anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUawUe4zS6YIs this really that good for such a cheap knife?
>>2468285I'm not clicking that shitty dutch clickbait, but that looks like a stock Lauri blade, 80crv2 if it's the carbon steel model and they run about $10-15 just for the blank. They're used on just about every factory puukko like your Ahti and Woodsknife and are good blades.
>>2466922Well if that small choil is so important, you could add one in to a knife with a round file.
>>2468303technically yeah if it doesn't make the knife less useful e.g. sacrificing blade length
>>2467297>>2467310this is very true. mora's carbon steel rusts within a few minutes just from the air here in washington if you go near the sound or coast. we're a state cars don't rust in too. i reckon just looking at a carbon steel blade funny somewhere in the rust belt where the air itself penetrates rust protection and rots cars stored inside of car garages its even worse lol.>>2467756there's some disadvantages. clip point tips break the easiest and the thrust isn't always in line with the blade depending on the design. still, clip point's good enough for a lot of militaries and its one of the better points for thrusting.
>>2468285>>2468286>dutch clickbaitI hate those two fags so much it's unrealI sincerely fucking hate them and their shitty videosTheir fanboys are even bigger faggots, I hope everyone who watches these hacks severs a tendon and dies of tetanus
Someone help me take care of my knife. It's in my pocket 24/7. Should I just buy a ring clip? Wood damage in red, and some kind of staining on the blade in blue.
>>2468420the staining is normal on a carbon steel knife; its a kind of corrosion often called patina. Oil it more if you want to slow the process down, but there really is no reason to.
>>2468420As for the blade, welcome to the wonderful world of carbon steel. Unless you're really meticulous with oiling the bitch it'll end up looking like an health hazard pretty quickly.The laser etching (if it is laser etching) on the wood disappearing is just the end result of friction, nothing you can do.The damage is also perfectly normal, the wood isn't all that hard and it's pretty normal for it to get beat up, especially if you have more stuff shuffling about in your pockets.
>>2468420Get some mineral oil to rub on the wood and the blade to preserve it. Mineral oil is cheap, it's foodsafe and a bottle lasts forever. It's a good idea if you have a bunch of wooden handled shit or knives in general to get a bottle of it, it's a once off kind of buy.As for the sheath I don't have one for my #8 because I keep it in an organizer bag thingy or wrapped in a paper towel if I'm taking it in the lunchbox, but if you get a hold of good quality cardstock (like 200+ gsm) you can make a little sheath very easily. It doesn't have a live edge since it's a folding knife, so you can get away with paper. I have made cardstock blade covers for fixed blade knives that are sharp as razors, they go a long way although obviously leather is more ideal and I wouldn't take one of those on my person while hiking. Just make a clamshell and close it with glue. You can also glue velcro to a flap to make it close.I might post a picture tomorrow.
>>2468420Normal wear, oil the blade and sand and oil the wood if need be. $8 knife shit you get a week in.
Thank you everyone for the responses.>>2468375Especially you, anon.>this is very trueDamn. I want my knife to be able to survive anywhere, so I'll stick to stainless forever. >>2467089I'm back. I found this review. I am inclined to trust it since they were on the money on their ferro rod review.https://theprepared.com/gear/reviews/best-survival-knife/https://theprepared.com/gear/reviews/ferro-rodI thought it would interesting to discuss it.>Their pickFallkniven F1>Also GreatTOPS BOBESEE 4>Budget Picks>Best knife under $50:Schrade SCHF56L>Great in the $50-$100 range:Becker BK16, BK2Personally I need a stainless one, so seems that for me the choice will be between the Morakniv Garberg and the Fallkniven F1. It seems that it will be the Fallkniven F1. I was pumped for the Mora's MOLLE sheath, but I guess I can just add some loops to the F1's and call it a day.
>>2469301>it will be the Fallkniven F1Good choice. A knife for the rest of your life.
>>2469312Glad to hear that! :D
>>2469301>Fallkniven F1It's a nice knife if you like the FK way of doing things. Can't really go wrong with FK.I was almost pulling the trigger on the A1X when I wanted to get a biggu naifu for laifuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ZGa97buw8But somehow it just didn't do it for me. Too thick, didn't like the clip point, the handle didn't look comfortable. Went for another knife instead.
>>2469330I think I will like it. I just need to compare the different steel options they have.Out of curiosity, which knife did you end up getting?
>>2469333>which knife did you end up getting?This big boy, with the black bladehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42VGB6TwMzsIt actually manages to hit that sweet spot between knife and hatchet.Mostly bought it for the aesthetics though, ngl, I've wanted to own that one BFK all my life.And I'm the guy who shilled the Lionsteel B41 earlier in the thread, that's my normal knife. It's a great company, I like them a lot.
>>2469340That's a nice blade with a big belly! Well, yeah. Of course aesthetics play a part. It looks like a real chopper.
>>2461566A cheapo piece of shit. But for the price at least is has the endurance of a fucking stone. Received one of these during my infantry service, used for opening tuna cans and hammering rusty stakes. I still carry the pouch, with an Opinel knife and a spoon as field cookware.
I did a torture test on the CS bowie bushman the other day, and while it's a tough knife for the majority of use it really shit the bed on the tip retention test. Snapped immediately, which suprised me considering how much it bends if you spear it into something. The tip is definitely the weakest point on the knife, and considering its a fairly thin clip point blade that isn't very surpising. I still highly reccomend it as a budget survival knife/beater/spearhead or throwing knife, but it's good to know it's limitationsPic rel is the knife I tested (bottom) vs the one I used for about 5 months (top). The first one I broke while chucking it at firewood like an ape because I was bored so i don't really blame the knife for that break
anyone have any of the Joker knives? Was looking at the oso or arrui 12, I like the looks of them even if they are german steel and 420ss respectively
>>2469301I prefer the S1 but that's just me.(pic: not my knives)
>>2467089>Which is the best knife for each price pointFixed-blades, yeah? I can only speak to knives I've owned or used for more than a tomato slice, but here's my list:>budget >$50Mora Heavy Duty>commonplace $50-$100Buck119>chuffed $150+Fallkniven s1>peacock $250+Marbles 120th Anniversary IdealBark River Boone>from a European perspectiveWho gives a flying fuck about the European perspective? I can only tell you what I know.
>>2461875haha ur tip broke u dum retard
>>2469521Clip points snap, anon. Get the other version and don't use it as a prybar maybe...You should really get that Cold Steel Tomahawk I told you last time lol
>>2469727I was specifically doing a torture test, not real prying>>2469707fuck ya muddah
>>2469776>I was specifically doing a torture testDude... why... torture tests are done by professional shills with free knives that are sent to them by the manufacturer specifically to make them look good. You said that a Skrama was beyond your budget but you wasted some $30 knife on a torture test? I don't get you man
>>2469521>>2469781NtaThere's enough material there to put a new grind & point on the broken one. Might mess with the throwing balance a bit, but you could take a little bit off the handle to compensate. As for "why" the whole point of that knife is survivalist larp, so wanting to have personal tactile experience with the breaking point of the blade makes a certain amount of sense. You want to have that experience before you're relying on the knife, not when the chips are down.
Looking for a SMALL budget flipper for edc. I’ve been poking around for a while and found the Kershaw Ember, which I can currently pick up for $18.But before I pull the trigger, can anyone suggest an equivalent, assisted or no, with a better blade material than 8Cr13MoV?
>>2470075Do you mean for the exact same or lower price as well? If not, what's your maximum
>>2470084Oops, sorry. Max is about $50-ish.
>>2470075I can only think of the Mora Eldris. It's small, budget and good, but it's a not a flipper. It's a very small fixed blade.
>>2470075Just get a mora Eldris. It’s marketed as a pocket knife.
>>2469781>Dude... why... torture tests are done by professional shills with free knives that are sent to them by the manufacturer specifically to make them look good.Those torture tests are 9 times out of 10 dogshit and I wanted to make something better>You said that a Skrama was beyond your budget but you wasted some $30 knife on a torture test? I don't get you manI never said the skrama was off the table, just that it was slightly over my given budget
>>2470093Shit's overpriced though. I thought it cost less.
>>2470095Dude you need to get a Cold Steel tomahawk like the rifleman or trail hawk. I'm sure you would be happy with it.
>>2470095There's also CRKT that makes tomahawks. I might end up getting myself a Woods Chogan.
>>2470103It’s as cheap as you should go. It’s a better knife than the $100 izula 2 at the top of the thread. Basically the two flocks of the outdoor knife world
>>2470118I dunno, recycled stainless steel, small knife, I don't see why it should be $35-40. You could get two Heavy Duty knives for that much.
>>2470124You will use an Eldris 1000x more, in your kitchen at home and everywhere. It is a phenomenal knife. And you wanted something you could edc. Test it’s 10-15 more than other moras. The only think that’s going to compete in cutting power and weather resistance are spydercos that’ll cost you $50 more than an Eldris. As someone whose owned thousands of dollars of knives I’m telling you this is the best knife for the average person on the market. Period. It’s very intuitive. Non offensive. Weightless
>>2470133That wasn't me from >>2470075I am pretty set on a flipper. Or at least some kind of very quick folder.
>>2470136Folding knives are retarded
>>2470139They are just dangerous for the user. If you’re just going to open boxes with it it’ll be fine but don’t expect to do anything serious and keep your fingers on your body. It’s designed to close on them. I won’t even use the strongest folders you can buy very hard. Benchmade superfreeks and pm2s can take insane abuse but I don’t trust the lock to stay engaged while absorbing shock. Maybe a score friction folder? They are sharp knives and you won’t cut your fingers off unless you stab a coconut
>>2470075D2 framelock crkt squids are on sale at bhq for 22https://www.bladehq.com/item--CRKT-Burnley-Squid-Frame-Lock-Knife--107739
>>2470143Yes, I understand that you can't treat a folder like a full-tang fixed blade.Besides, I have no intention of trying to stab or chop with a ~2" blade.I just want something quick and small that I can whip out, slice or cut something, and put right away again. Preferably one-handed.
>>2470143So yeah. I'll be treating it like a heavy duty box cutter.
>>2470148Spyderco dragonfly salt literally is a rust proof option. Comes in plain, semi, and fully serrated variants, you can dye the yellow handle whatever color you want. Just $10 over your budget. If you’re opening packages and doing /in/stuff with it mostly get the serrated version. Tape kills edges. I can’t remember who said they thought the mora steel was shitty but it’s proven steel. Super steel is for people who don’t go out for long. I only use steel I can sharpen with no sharpener. I don’t make a habit of using river stones because they won’t reach the blade near the handle but I know I could if I had to. 440c is a bitch on a stone let alone s30v or whatever you’re fantasizing about. S90v breaks like glass that’s why all these companies are back tracking to s45vn chasing the last fish in that particular barrel. It’s all bullshit. The edge holding of these steels doesn’t make up for the brittleness. The day they make supersteel that actually survives hard use I’ll get into it. A sturdy stainless knife that’s easy to sharpen is all you need. Any thing will dull and if you’re in a situation where you can’t get it sharp again you’re carrying dead weight
>>2470149Fully serrated spyderco dragonfly salt
>>2470133>And you wanted something you could edc.I'm not the anon who made the request. I actually suggested the Eldris first, here >>2470092 I just consider it slightly overpriced for what it is now that I've seen the price. I can't find it here at less than 35-40 bucks. In my mind that's half a Woodsknife puukko, or a Garberg.Personally I wouldn't consider folders at all except for food and opening boxes, I'm pretty much in line with how you think here >>2470143 if that is you. I love my opinel for that kind of stuff but I know where its utility ends.
>>2470149>I'll be treating it like a heavy duty box cutter.I know this sounds like I'm memeing on you, but have you thought about an actual heavy duty box cutter? I assume you want this for urban EDC instead of the outdoors. Cutters are great, they're very useful. I have knives at home but when I need to do a small task I just grab my Olfa cutter because it's just better for home and light work.Mine is a regular wheel-lock cutter but this might be good because it's self-retracting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvDIf9sH458Olfa tools are fantastic, made in JapanIt will also cost you a fraction of a knife. Blades last a really long time for light use unless you need to work with razor sharpness every single time you cut (this might be the case but I doubt you're actually working with the knife).
>>2470168Get an Eldris. You push cut in a stabbing motion to utilize the compound ground near the tip for more heavy duty work and still have a razor Sharon’s scandi section near the base for real cutting power. Or you can get full scandi now with a rounder spine. I realize it looks like a screw driver. That’s the beauty of it it’s a tool that work much better than others because it knows that it’s a tool and embraces it
>>2470174I have a SAK for small work, and outside I take a puukko. I'm set as far as knives go, I was just trying to suggest something to anon in this case.I actually got a Companion HD recently and it's a good knife.
>>2470178I can understand not wanting to waste your money. I live in a part of America where you can carry any knife anywhere and am just shooting for peak performance edc. I keep a leatherman in the background the way you do the hd. I think 2mm is perfect the overbuilt moras never appealed to me. I had a robust and it wasn’t a good cutter. I never needed it to be indestructible even though it was. Gave it to a fisherman with a gas station folder
>>2461226>Although I also MTB I don't really have the need for the pliers, and I want something light.Nobody ever thinks they need a pair of pliers until they find themselves needing a pair of pliers. Get the Skeletool if you want cheap and lightweight, the Wave or Surge if you want to go full autist, or the Titanium Charge if you want your Autism to come with a side of Gucci. I've found that Lethermans come in super handy as EDC. I've wound up using mine for something everyday so far. And yes, I've used every tool. Even the can opener once when I couldn't find my kitchen one.
>>2470196You’re better off getting a discontinued leatherman juice off eBay. Every other tool they make feels like shit in your hand
>>2470170Shit, I forgot about the folding ones. I'm so used to using old Stanleys.I guess I'll go see what my options are there.
>>2470211This is also good advice.
>>2470105>>2470117Not generally a tomahawk guy, since they're a lot more of a specialised tool than a knife. I want something that can do most general camp tasks while being able to take down ligher branches/brushThough I think I'm narrowing down my knife search. Currently I'm voting between the Skrama 200 or some from condor. I know Terava knives are highly shilled on here (not saying thats a bad thing), but would there be something from condor I'd like better for a little cheaper (or similar price if it's good)
>>2470243>since they're a lot more of a specialised toolmany people use them as a light general tool, e.g. you can knock the head off the handle and carve with it. They pack well because the head comes off, they're good for kindling, limbing, etc. of course they don't match a hatchet but they're more agile
>>2470196fucking love bringing my wave. its actually my only knife since i dont really need much else for what i do. half the shit on it is completely useless but all the same. pliers are very handy, can use them as potholders, tweezers, cable cutters, lightweight tin snips, etc.
>>2470243Anon here again, i decided on the condor hudson bay knife. Also picked up a mercator k55k as well for the free shipping
>>2462764>>2466864>Marttiinis are for tourists. >it's a popular opinion that they've become display knives / tourist brand.DBK recently tested some of their knives and completely disagreehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUawUe4zS6Y
>>2471871>these two pro shill homosexuals have (((((tested))))) this product and it's totally great
>>2471872take your meds.
>>2471873>this product is good because the company hired someone to make an ad about itLiterally braindead
>>2471874you clearly dont watch their channel
It's clownish advertising disguised as puddle deep shit (((reviews))), they are insufferable
>>2471927any idea how cringe this shit is to read?go back to your containment board.
>>2471871Why do people post that video expecting people to take it seriously? The thumbnail alone completely turned me off of it
>if you don't like watching ads you're LE /POL/
>>2470843Was the shipping more than $29.95 or this some kind of US consumerist calculation? You have been jewed.Anyway, nice Condor indeed, good price too.
>>2461451Everyone's expecting a total societal collapse and possible nuclear war, so they wan't to have their EDC in order.
I prefer pocket knives in this size range.
>>2472223That Japanese knife is cute
>>2472229>Feel free to talk to me or my son, anytime
>>2472378what knife is that? the little one looks like a pruning knifeI am too lazy to reverse search the kanji
any locking knives with a blade shape similar to victorinox knives? the closest i've found is a mercator
>>2472425Opinel makes a N°8 drop point knife, it's perfect for what you want
>>2472395Higo no kami
>>2472526I was a bit suspicious about googling that but thanks for giving the actual name keklooks really cool>>2472425the Opinel is called the "Garden" knife. Steel is 12c27.
>>2472425Grohmann make a very cool drop point lockback that I've been eyeing for a while.
>>2472544cheers, i didn't even know but i'll grab one since it looks pretty close to what i had in mind and i'm pretty happy with my other opinels. i thought >>2472442 was trolling at first lol
>>2472633That was still me lolI just knew it existed but I didn't want to be vague so I looked for it
>>2461238>frosted tip>scream knifeYou posted this on /k. I still want one.
Victorinox Workchamp in sale.
>>2472673Too bulky for my liking. The pliers add a lot of bulk without really earning it. I prefer the Outrider. Similar layout, including the in-line screwdriver which is not common, minus some of the bulk.
>>2472681>>2472694Based victoriCHAD enjoyers
>>2472651>>frosted tiphow what is itwhat is it good forhow do i get one
>>2472811He posted it other times. It's not "frosted" whatever that means, he just burned it on the fire to roast sausages and poke the wood
>>2472857wouldnt that fuck with the tempering of the blade?
>>2472864No idea, though I think it wouldn't unless you let the knife become red hot
>knife slices through paper>bites on fingernail with its own weight>shaves hair on arm>find piece of what I think is beech>chop a few thumb-thick sticks with the hand hatchet>that did took some noticeable effort for the size>sticks are absurdly hard to cut with a knife to the point where it's not safeWhat the fuck is going on here? Is my knife dull, the wood too dry? Did I mistake this wood for something else?
>>2472909if a magnet sticks to your beech wood, than it was iron all along
>>2472924Thanks anon, I'll see if jet fuel melts it
>mistook my iron ingot for my piece of beech woodnot again
>>2472929that would be steel thobut only if you believe in the mainstream narrative on 9/11
>>2472909completely dry wood is incredibly hard to cut. geometry matters just as much as how refined your edge is. probably some of both but mostly #1
>>2473035>geometry mattersmy knife is a scandi zero so technically idealBut yeah it felt like something I'd have to take a chisel and mallet to.Interesting
>>2472194I've been wanting a k55k for months, and it's choosing between paying 10-15 in shipping vs paying slightly more for an8tn0rw extra knife
>>2473188>an8tn0rw knifekek is that a good steel?
What have you used your knife recently for? I got a SAK classic for field work (collecting fungus and lichen) and I've only found a few other uses for it (opening boxes, though I could just use my home scissors too. Tightening the screw on my hand lens while out was a huge bonus actually). If I didn't have this kinda niche hobby I'm not sure I'd ever use it, just curious what others use their knives for.
>>2473222I've started a spoon carving project but the piece I've found is full of knots
>>2473215no bully ples sir, am meer knife-fag
>>2473222I used my mora to cut a slit into some hotdogs earlier, I use the thing as a general use food knife when I'm not out.
>>2473277I might actually start using the captchas as made up steel names. Just got a nice knife in 4RW882
>>2473188Ok, i have accepted your answer and allow it. Enjoy your kniferinos, m8. Sure you will get good and daily use out of them.
>>2473309kek that's good, the captchas are actually kinda reminiscent of some northern european steels>>2473335The mercator might end up as a fairly rare carry knife/toolbox knife, but I plan on putting the condor to some pretty hard work
>>2472929Yes, this works too. If the beech wood melts, it's NOT steel. But then it's also not wood, so it must be some third thing.