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What shovels do you guys use when out camping? Do you guys carry fixed shovels or are folding shovels good enough for the job? For me personally, it's the Chinese WJQ-308 Military shovel. It has like 15 functions in one. Shovel, pick axe, chopping, saw, wire cutting, wire twister, can opener. What do you guys carry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGdbbEZVHqw
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i dig with a trekking pole and get my trekking poles in aluminum instead of carbon so when they deform from said digging i just bend it back no problem. it serves as a middle ground between a shitty backpacker trowel and a gigantic cobra commando e tool.
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I have carried a shovel a few times, but i dont find it worth the weight. I have a surplus ak74 bayonett, that i use for camp tasks, that digs easy enough and is very light. Cost me 8€
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I have a Fiskars folder I got recently and didn't take /out/ yet, it's a solid piece once unfolded, packs compact, but it's heavy as shit. If it doesn't prove itself immensely useful those times I'll take it with me I'll probably use it for gardening.
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>>2458778
It is good for entrenching and possibly bashing someones head in, but unless you need to construct fighting positions, I'd opt for something else.
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>>2458678
I'd want a shovel like this but in titanium due to the weight savings. Too bad I do not have contacts to Russia.
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>>2458790
I want to use it to build fire pits
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(and catholes)
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>>2458821
I like that one, love the wooden pommel. I think you can take it off to make it more portable. How do I get one of these, do I google "nazi shovel milsurp" ? it probably had a long name like Portbeilungskriegspäden
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>>2458843
>Romanian surplus folding shovel
let me guess, Varusteleka
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>>2458843
The description for the milsurp shovels are some of the best I've seen on the shop so far
>A magnificent piece of war history but absolutely shitty for digging for anything but holes in your psyche.
>If your philosophy of life is all about modern efficiency, this e-tool is as useful for you as a bikini on a hippo. The shaft is short as hell, ergonomics infernally crappy, and the flat edge can only easily dig holes in your soul. But traditional bushcrafters and reenactors don’t care about modern decadence. Their joy stems from overcoming difficulties. And it is quite hard to get more difficult than this.
>A smart person would have put a handle on the shaft but these have a dildoesque lump instead.
>There are two kinds of people, my friend. Those with Austro-Hungarian Field Spades and those who don't dig. You won't dig much more with this.
>Oh Lord have mercy on the one that diggeth anything with this ye olde tool.
>These are pretty old, and used with the love and care usually associated with vast East Bloc conscript armies.
>A magnificent piece of history but fiendishly crappy for digging. Mount it on your wall or give it to a neighbor that you hate.
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>>2458862
link me up comrade
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>>2458868
>milsurp in good condition actually exists
thanks for the link anon, I'll probably end up buying something to LARP with from that site
folding one looks pretty sweet
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the fixed handle lightweight ones with sharp edges are pretty nice. works well enough for cutting through vines and shit when off trail. and chops branches well enough for a campfire. they get mangled by rocks though digging anything but sand and clean soil will fuck its ability to cut. worthy of the name multitool unlike most things advertised as such.
the folding nato shovels are nice because you can set it 90 degrees so you can use it like a hoe but i wouldnt sharpen the edge for cutting doesnt seem like it would hold up to the impacts
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>>2458641
Based AK bayonet enjoyer.
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>>2458625
kek is that a bottle opener?
>let me just put a lip of the bottle perilously close to the thing I use to dig a hole I poop in
I don't take one with me, but I leave a cold steel spetnaz shovel in my trunk. I got stuck in the snow once, and had to dig out my car with a stick I found nearby. It was the middle of a logging road and I was at it for hours. When I got stuck the next time it only took me 20 minutes to get unfucked with the shovel.
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>>2458876
lmao
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>>2458894
>the folding mechanism is annoying to clean
I generally use an air compressor at home to do that kind of job.
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>>2458790
>>2458799
i thought the basic /out/ use was to dig shit holes.
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>>2459132
see >>2458800
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>>2458625
I love my cold steel shovel, havent take It to camping, but everytime I dig a hole in my garden I use that shovel. Its just that handy.
For digging poop holes I just use a black and decker trowel that was already in my house.
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>>2458625
british army e-tool, folding kind. not the shitty cheap chinkshit that breaks after one use (talking from experience)
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>>2459234
Are you saying you don't DIG IT?
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>>2459287
He doesn't dig it, sucka!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mPz4Dos7L0
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All these faggots arount here that dont bring a combat shovel for LARPing into the woods. Pathetic, Erbämlich even.
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>>2459336
Fall really seperates the boys from the men. Packing for my next /out/ing at the moment.
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>>2459360
holy based
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>>2459382
the Jew fears the all milsurp trekker
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>>2459360
>imco streamline lighter
i kneel
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>>2459420
IMCO chad recognizing the exact model from a few pixels, i kneel aswell.
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>>2459360
Bible + Vodka is an interesting combination
What denomination is that anyway? Are you Germans protestant, Catholic?
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>>2459524
depends on the region. im the guy you replied to and my area is generally protestant and i personly agree much more with that ad opposed to catholics.
im not much of a beleiver jet, i just started reading, but i have always felt that there is something larger than myself out there.
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>>2459524
>>2459535
also the important part is recognizing your vices and trying to combat them, no man is perfect
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>>2459537
>>2459554
cant trust a man without vices, spends all that time not being true to himself and repressing till it all comes out at once, like the priest who spends all his time bing chaste till he just cant hold back the dam of repressed urges and fucks a boy.
the devil makes work for idle hands and you squares do your utmost to make yourself as idle as possible
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>>2458795
$60 without the handle lol
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>>2459554
thanks anon
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>>2459601
>One day you're just innocently masturbating to anime furries while auto-erotically asphyxiating yourself
well that escalated fast
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>>2459145
i have taken it camping its good
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Shovelbros, tommorow 0800 is gotime.
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>>2460064
Schaufelbrüder sind fürs Leben.
Will post shovelpics from my camp tommorow.
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>>2460056
>>2460064
glorious
post Kampspadefotograf tomorrow anon!
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>>2460193
Von seinen Waffen weiche niemand
Einen Schritt im freien Feld:
Niemand weiß unterwegs, wie bald
Er seines Speers bedarf.
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>>2460196
Von seinem Kampfspaten weiche niemand
Einen Schritt im freien Feld:
Niemand weiß unterwegs, wie bald
Er seines Spatens bedarf.
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What kinda stuff do you dig with these shovels?
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>>2460361
poop holes
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>>2460361
fire pits, shit holes, shallow graves
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>>2460361
My shovel is all I take with me when I go on long hikes. I dig spike pits and place a sign that says "Here's 10 FREE tips to make your Ultralight gear TRULY Ultralight!" works every time. I harvest the meat and equipment and move on.
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My us army etool I got while in the army.
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What are you supposed to do with one of these shovels? Dig a shitting hole? Why not just use a stick and discard it? You can chop wood with a hatchet for coffee wood.
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>>2460482
>shaufelbrüderschaft
I need a morale patch with Fraktur lettering
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>>2460482
lmao. /out/ really is the best board on 4chan. Just like how /out/ists are the best frens irl.
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Reporting in from the great /out/doors.
Shovel came in handy clearing underbrush from the campsite.
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>>2460614
Kek you beat me to it. This is exactly what I wanted to make. I was going to use MonAmourFraktur as the font.
It can work as a patch, I think. Obviously excluding the fact that it would make you look like a neonazi
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>>2460614
weather is good so far, warm and dry, but it will propably start raining in the night and not stop until next evening, will be interesting hiking out through that. Waiting for nightfall, then ill light my fire and make some soup. Im right next to large military training area, and i heard automatic gunfire from MG3 and G36 all day, really adds to the LARP. Constant gunfire from 10am to 4pm.
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>>2460627
>>2460630
If anyone makes it happen, I'll sew it on my e-tool sheath.
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>>2460639
A design that always works with long lettering is around a curve. Maybe that?
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Back home safe, luckily didnt rain, still got wet, as i had to wade through a stream on my way home.
>>2460677
Schaufelbruderschaft(with SCH and without Ü)(Shovelbrooderhood) or Schaufelbrüder(with SCH and with Ü)(Shovelbrothers) would be right, but not Shaufelbrüderschaft(without SCH and with Ü)
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>>2460990
>not Shaufelbrüderschaft
Such a pity, I'd have umlauts wherever it's possible
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>>2461039
could also embrace the meme and call it Schäufelbrüderschäft
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>>2461161
The lantern is Bundeswehr (similar lanters have been used in all german militaries since the first world war, both east and west), the messkit is polish, but is pretty much identical to the german one (exept its 1/4 the price)
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>>2461204
#8 with a border between the writing and the image would be perfect. Try a font like MonAmourFraktur or what >>2460614 was using.
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>>2461204
i really like #4
maybe make the text slightly smaller and put /out/ in the bottom center, that way the text wouldnt wrap all the way around and thus be easier to read.
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>>2461211
the problem is making a patch with it, if the font is too small it won't look good as an embroidery
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>>2461161
>:Schäüfëlbrüdërschäft:
Perfection
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>>2461211
i meant 9
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>>2461212
just make the entire patch a little larger, in my opinion, when the text wraps all the way around it becomes hard to read. also consider actually putting in all the Umlauts >>2461213 would make it a lot more unique
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>>2461227
You can customize the kerning between letters! You should have a set of options when you select the text. Sadly my toaster software crashes when I handle lettering, so I can't do it. But this design is perfect. The idea of having the shovel digging into the bottom line is genius.
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>>2459005
I hope you dig the hole before pooping and no poop touches the shovel, as it was already put away.
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>>2461241
Another idea for the patch, keep the black and white, but add some read blood to the shovel, to make it more visually striking.
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I must say after having tried it out i really like having a sharpened Shovel with me. Its great for preparing the campsite or digging fireholes or taking a shit. Other people might carry axes or folding saws, but the shovel is lighter than an axe and i really dont need to prep wood with an axe, there is enough dead dry small wood in the forests around me, so that just breaking it is more than enough. Is it unneccisary weight? maybe. is it fun to carry around a ww1 combat shovel, larping as a stormtrooper? certainly.
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>>2459132
Nah man. We just poop in the stream and the water carries it away from us.
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>>2461838
got something in the mail today
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>>2461870
i contains both prose Edda (jüngere Edda/Snorra Edda) and poetic Edda (ältere Edda/Liederedda), with the Havamal (des Hohen Lied) beeing part of the poetic Edda.
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>>2461908
>>2461870
ill go on another shoveltrip next week
nice picture edit btw
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>>2460056
>"Rain" camo
Holy based
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>>2462057
i walk a fine line between tankie and wehraboo, indeed.
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>>2461962
i am rather lucky for a germanoid, i live in an area, that has been heavily afflicted by coal mining, but all those mines have been floodet, turned into lakes and the areas between them turned into nature reserves. the wildernes has a particular flavor, it feels and is man made, every hill, every lake, every river was shaped by man, but has been reclaimed beutifully in the past 30 years. i enjoy it very much.
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>>2462118
every single one of these lakes is man made
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>>2462124
and most likely, shovels were involved
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>>2462135
propanly. and heavy machinery.
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>>2462139
in my area a surefire way to determine, if the soil has been tampered with is looking at its composition. often times sand and clay, wich should be buried far under the earth, are visible, wich proves, that the ground has been dug.
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>>2462124
So I am assuming you are just stealth camping and thus the camo tarp? I hate how cucked we are legally in germany and the trekking camping places are a step in the right direction, but far from perfect nor are there enough. Ever had any issue with that? I only stealth camped at fishing spots so far, but have to grow some balls and do normal wild camping more often.
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>>2462201
there are only two types of camping in germany, cucked at a campground or free stealth camping. i choose the second option. desu it makes it all much more interesting,evading your adversaries, keeping a low profile, trying not to be discovered. A few times so far i have planted my face in the dirt, because the forestor came around the corner, and it still has been an enjoyable ex>>2462201
periance.
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>>2462207
>there are only two types of camping in germany
I'd argue that the trekking campsites are a third category. Still kinda cucked (you have to make reservations, pay, may have to share the campsite etc.) but far less than an actual campground (Which I like far less).
I get the thrill of stealthcamping, but for fuck's sake I just want to camp /out/ without having to camp on a cucked lawn, next to a mobile home or dauercamper, while listening to the music from the nearby camper and also have to pay for the privilege. It's super retarded.
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>>2459145
This thing is awesone
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>>2462207
not that anon but do camo tarps/tents actually work for stealth camping? what I mean is, how effective is the camo compared to an olive green or similar
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>>2462330
when you out your stuff somewhere, where someone else can gat line of sight on it, you are doig it wrong. Any dark colour should be fine, i even use a tent, thats neon green and it hasnt been an issue. i mostly use the camo tarp to mask the light from my firepit.
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>>2462330
Camo doesn't work in a civilian setting. The entire purpose of camo is to avoid drawing attention to yourself, but in a civilian setting camo wearers and tents/tarps actually attracts attention from the public so it does the opposite of what it was designed for.

There might be some exceptions to this though like in parts of southern USA where every other person seems to be walking around wearing camo in regular life. But generally I would go with olive green or coyote brown or whatever instead, depending on where you live.
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>>2462376
Wait, I am talking specifically about stealth camping innawoods. Of course I imagine that rocking a camo tent in a camping area is going to draw attention.
>>2462379
>Avoid tarps where the pattern repeats a lot
the tarp would be a DD, the pattern seems to be pretty good
>For real effectiveness, you'd want full camouflage kit, painted skin
It should be all right. I'm aiming at avoiding "hey there's a tent in the middle of those trees over there" from casual passerbys or the landowner.
>>2462384
>I agree with your point, but one could theoretically pack a full camo kit in a subtle grey-man(tm) pack, and camo up once past all the normies.
That's practically what I'm doing. The camo stuff I have is only what I'm going to pitch to make camp. Otherwise I'm (mostly) using earth colors and black for clothes/pack. I have a few orange or red things but they're either inside the pack or they're going to be worn while I'm walking around. I only care about hiding my camp since free camping is (technically) forbidden.
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>>2462394
>What kind of terrain do you go /out/ in?
broadleaf woodland
>Reading a few chapters on visual camouflage in an army manual pdf would really do wonders to reduce your risk of getting a fine.
Thanks anon, I'm going to follow the manual.
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>>2462398
>Read the Havamal afterwards
I like it, anon
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>>2463032
>The shovel is now an /out/ symbol for tradition and masculinity.
>Shovel threads are also philosophy and poetry threads
this is my new favourite thing. more old fashioned shovel added to my essential camp items list. as an aside, i use my shovel for planting trees when i go out.
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>>2463032
15 Der unwerte Mann meint ewig zu leben,
Wenn er vor Gefechten flieht.
Das Alter gönnt ihm doch endlich nicht Frieden,
Obwohl der Speer ihn spart.

16 A Coward thinks he will ever live,
if warfare he avoids;
But old age will give him no peace,
though spears may spare him.
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>>2463049
>assuming I know nothing but have a shovel (naturally)?
Firstly, if you do not ask permission, it is illegal.
Secondly regarding trees; try to stick to native trees. However some trees do not like to be transplanted, some people say only to transplant in the spring when there are no leaves on the tree, this has worked for me however i find if you do not disturb the roots too much they will be ok even in summer- as long as they get enough water. water the hole first. then give more water on top. approx 750ml per sapling. i plant small saplings, 1 to 3 years old, which i have often salvaged from locations where they would die or never thrive. (e.g. directly under another large tree, in some crack, all growing within 1 foot of each other) trees ideally need a spacing of about 8 feet/2.5 meters to thrive.
some people say seeds need to overwinter to sprout but i find many sprouting in the seed pod/fruiting body. i have grown some apple trees from seeds in this way.
Slugs and infesting insects are your biggest enemy, beer traps work wonders but must be deep. seeds can be sprouted indoors for a few weeks first to get the plant to a size that one slug cannot eat in one night.
Some locations where I thought the tree would never survive- are thriving, other locations that looked perfect - the sapling is dead. ????. Slightly larger more established saplings transplant better. The more roots you can bring with it the better. I have about an 85% survival rate. oh and I most often plant silver birch (because they will grow anywhere) and alder, which is also hardy and fast growing.
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>>2463049
the translation is by Karl Simrock, first published 1876. interestingly the numbers of the stanzas are off, because he put two together into one.
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>>2462379
ever resharpened your shovel? i assume one just uses the same kind of sharpening stone, as for a scythe, or just whatever flat rock that can be found laying around. i have been thinking of taking one edge to the wetstone and making it sharp enough to cut tomatoes, just to see if i could.
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>>2463079
11 and 12
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>>2463090
pretty hatchet. you do leatherwork yourself?
for the sheath, i have a late war one, wich is cheaper to manufacture, in the early war models the entire blade is covered in lather, not just the edges. It was reissued in the early years of east germany, where my grandfather got it.
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>>2458795
>in titanium due to the weight savings

A wooden handle can be replaced with a longer handle or repurposed. Hauling around a titanium tube that's riveted to your shovel and the sole purpose is to add leverage to your shovel is fucking retarded.
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>>2463061
>directly under another large tree

larger trees will share nutrients with smaller trees, retard, you're literally a suckling baby off of it's mothers breast and throwing it in an open field thinking you're somehow helping. You're not.
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>>2463164
yeah the shovel is from my Opa.
i also have a k98 bayonett from my great grandfather, but its in a rather bad shape, due to having spent 70 years in a wet garage.
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>>2463171
>I don't think he meant that the handle should be titanium

That makes sense. I might be retarded this morning.
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>>2463189
>Owns a beautiful translation of the Eddas
thats all thanks to you, friend.
>Damn. Could it be restored, do you think?
I have removed all the rust and oiled it up to stop further rusting. There is severe pitting on all metal surfaces. The wooden handle was unsalvageble, same goes for the sheith. It will never look like new again, but it also not get worse. I will fabricate new wood handles and buy a new sheith in the future. the knive will wear its battle scars with pride.
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>>2463079
>Thanks for explaining that, that is very interesting.
if one were to engage in illegal activities (which i absolutely do not!!!!) one should not admit to it, even on an anonymous chinese art appreciation forum.
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>>2463224
well this bajonett went all the way to russia with my gramps
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>>2463243
>portugese fridge repair forum.
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>>2463243
>Are you the Alpenflage enthusiast I tried to convince to replace your miltec tarp with heavy milsurp canvas tarps?
very possibly although i do not recall. i do have 2 kinds of milsurp tarp and wear alpenflage when outing sometimes.
>spotted my alpenflage from one tiny corner of the sleeve
that deserves another (you)
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>>2462330
you tell me
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>>2462330
had two guys walk up on me while i was having a rest, they saw me by my boots sticking out the end of the tarp.
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>>2463600
>>2463602
kek amazing
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Since we're on the topic of camouflage.

Thoughts on this camo pattern? Exists in all gray too but they're unfortunately sold out everywhere.
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>>2463637
reminds me of ww1 helmet camo paint
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>>2460064
What do you use for sleeping on with a setup like that?
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>>2463682
i have been wondering the same thing
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>>2463703
I see.
>but minimum temp here is over 20C currently
lel starting to realize I need to move further south if I ever want to do /comfy/ larps.

How the fuck does Snufkin do it while also living in Finland?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_j3jY4bgTJ8
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>>2463751
is this southern italy
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>>2463839
ah that's beautiful anon
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>>2463856
>that's just because I'm grumpy due to the summer heat dragging on
I hear you man, it's been terrible here too
>Picrel is the Bardenas desert
that's awesome, I had no idea that Europe had a desert that looked like Arizona
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>>2463856
What are the laws in Spain by the way? In Scandinavia where you're from we're basically allowed to go anywhere and camp anywhere, no matter who owns the land. How does camping work in Spain? Is it similar or is it gay like Germany where you're not even allowed to wild camp or have a camp fire?
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>>2463877
>I had no idea that Europe had a desert that looked like Arizona
Where did you think Eastwood brutally slaughtered all those Mexicans?
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>>2463879
I was just wondering if they ever shot Westerns in there
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>>2462141

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow
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>>2463878
>we're basically allowed to go anywhere and camp anywhere, no matter who owns the land.
Not Spainanon but AFAIK it's only a few central European countries that have that thing (can't remember what it's called, wanderer's right, traveller's law). I think France is one. Denmark?
Anyway do you guys in Scandinavia really have woods so widespread that if you don't live in a big city like Oslo or Helsinski you can realistically just walk off and go innawoods? It takes hours to get to a place that's remotely green and wild here because what's not been converted to crops is an ultra protected national park where the two species of birds and mammal that aren't extinct in this country still live, so you can't do anything but walk through very carefully (and then make a reservation). It's like having sex with your pants on.
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>>2463895
Yeah I guess we can but that is even true of cities like Oslo and Helsinki. You can just go on google maps and turn on the satellite mode then you can look at Oslo for yourself. Never been to Oslo but seems like there are decent sized deep forests surrounding Oslo on pretty much all sides, but especially to the north.
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>>2463924
Ah crap I'm going to ask: is it hard to move to Scandinavia as a EU citizen job and housing wise? Online job ads seem to be for specialized positions, I'm not sure what the job market is like outside of that. I know that in Finland they expect you to know the language at native level to do pretty much anything. I've been wanting to move for years.
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>>2463970
my God why is everything so hard for us southern europastani, I just wanna cook a couple sausages on a stick stove and then sleep under a tarp
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how bizzare of a world we live in where people bring shovels into the woods solely for the purpose of taking pictures of it to virtue signal on a mongolian basket weaving forum
there's like 30 threads on the catalogue about products to coonsoom but 0 threads about outings, meetups, gear list shakedowns, any sort of outdoor activities unrelated to hiking etc. the few that exist are far outnumbered by threads like this which come off like a meeting hub for trad-larp instagrammers under the age of 30.
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>>2460056
I kneel
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>>2464062
>meetups
nice try, fed
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>>2464062
if you had read the thread you would have seen, that other then 99% of /out/ people here actually leave their houses and have posted pictures and stories from their recent outings.
Also going /out/ while LARPing is just way more fun.
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>>2464062
>products to coonsoom
most of the shovels posted here are cheap ass surplus
you still have to buy them sure but there's no brand whoring whatsoever going on. you get an used up thing in sometimes shitty conditions and most of the time you have to do a restoration job on it
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Honestly I just dig with a stick.
Shovels are really heavy and I rarely if ever need to dig a deep hole or multiple holes.

For what it's worth I've found entrenching tools to be a real minefield of LARP, so many just break.

If you're in a vehicle just get a proper shovel on the roof, or cut the handle of a regular shovel down.
If you're on foot do you really need a shovel? How many fox holes do you really need to dig?
Have you ever actually dug a fox hole or do you just carry a fucking shovel because you like the idea?

Digging without a shovel is as hard as you make it, select the easiest place to dig to begin with, scrape out the soil, then use the stake and lever method to remove large pieces of earth you can simply pick up.
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Should I actually sharpen the edges on my fiskars e-tool? they're definitely not sharp enough to cut through roots, only break them
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>>2459537
Combat your vices, by indulging in them, riiiight. Just don't drink moron. Just don't smoke. Just don't do drugs. If you know it's bad just don't do it. I don't know why this is so hard for so many people, life is never so depressing that you literally NEED any of that crap I hate that druggie cope excuse. But then again people look at you like Jesus nowadays for simply not eating for over a month so I guess I'll simply never understand what low willpower people are like.
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>>2464399
I've drank and smoked before at parties, never have I ever felt compelled to do it over and over again by myself with no ability to stop. Typical addict cope trying to tell people with actual willpower that you're the only real one with control.
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>>2464452
Are you implying drinking in absolutely all contexts is bad? This is a Christian website I'll have you know, to live in this world and not be of the world is the entire goal. Having a vice and being addicted, being attached to it and compelled to do it over and over again purely for pleasure, that is when it's bad for you. If you know you have a problem just stop letting it be a problem.
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>>2463877
>I had no idea that Europe had a desert
You've never visited the interior of Spain.
It's completely disgusting.
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found a shovel on my outing today.
>>2463614
>is it CADPAT?
i think so, got it from a charity shop for a fiver.
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>>2464062
>people bring shovels into the woods
>0 threads about outings, meetups, gear list shakedowns
>the woods
>shovels
>0 threads about outings
>0 threads about gear
can't tell if retarded ... or bait.
>>2464071
i also do not use a smartphone nor social media of any kind. nokia brick master race.
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>>2464846
I see that square shape a lot with german, austrian surplus shovels. Is that designed for snow?
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>>2464908
i think it was actually designed for coal, being that there was a coal fired power plant nearby.
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>>2464846
Coal burner
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>>2463877
>The Spaghetti Western is a broad subgenre of Western films produced in Europe. It emerged in the mid-1960s in the wake of Sergio Leone's film-making style and international box-office success. The term was used by foreign critics because most of these Westerns were produced and directed by Italians.
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>loads of posts deleted from one major shovelbro
>posts about poetry deleted
>posts with shovel logos deleted
>posts about his outing with shovels deleted
>The shovel is now an /out/ symbol for tradition and masculinity.
>Shovel threads are also philosophy and poetry threads
how much were you paid for that, jannies?
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Why the fuck did the janny niggers do that while a million bait threads are up
Goddamnit, fuck you
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>>2465983
>Why the fuck did the janny niggers do that
we both know why.
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>>2465960
i drink today to our fallen shovelbro, may we see him again during the final battle, fighting side by side with odin.
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they also deleted his posts from the backpack thread. I hate them.
>Gladsheim heißt die fünfte, wo golden schimmert
>Walhalls weite Halle:
>da kiest sich Odin alle Tage
>Vom Schwert erschlagene Männer.
Grimnismal 8
Want to delete me next?
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>>2465960
>>2466050
was it the leather pack dude? wtf why? he actually contributes to the board?
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>>2466076
yes it was him and i really wonder why
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>>2466088
if he got nuked cross-thread it might be that someone else with his IP was spamming something really bad on another board, and the mods nuked everything from that IP.
It can happen although I'm more inclined to think it was trannies who got offended by his Aryan Chadness
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>>2466076
yeah. i think it was this guy (pic rel) seems to have gotten b&. i am disapoint.
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Tomorrow 1300 is gotime again,
will post pictures once more.
I will partake in this /out/ing in honour of our fallen shovelbro.
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the shovel claims yet another soul
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>>2466571
noooooo foxy...
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new shovel use discoered: cuttingboard
>>2466597
wonder why it died, didnt look too malnurished, propably was ill
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>>2466602
what is this specific model of shovel called again?
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>>2463168
I figured everyone understood that I was talking about the shovel head being titanium. I don't think any place even sells 100% titanium shovels (the handle being titanium as well).
>>2463744
Snufkin is a sissy that runs to the south before the cold season starts.
>>2463936
If you have a good degree, then you can work in english. People in Finland generally know English sonwell that foreigners do not even have to learn Finnish for surviving.
I knew one British guy who lived here for 7 years and he didn't learn more than few phrases in Finnish. Being motovated to learn the language does help.
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>>2466731
>If you have a good degree
haha I don't have a degree
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>>2466728
Its just a german ww2 shovel, there were only two models, the one pictured and a folding one. Search for Feldspaten or Schanzzeug.
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The rangeban on my home IP has expired, i hope we get Havamalanon back soon.
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>>2466128
Just got my m/39 backpack. How did you treat the leather on it and how many times until it got supple and nice?
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>>2467052
he wont answer, the jannies b& him
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>>2467070
Did they fear his power?
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>>2467078
The way of the shovel is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural...
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>>2467052
NTA who posted the pic. just saved it because it was really nice camping gear.
keeping the schaufel brudergeshaft alive.
gonna dig a big hole with mine next time i go out, make a little fort and then see if it is still there in 10 years time.
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>>2465960
>>2465983
>>2466006
>>2466044
>>2466050
>>2466076
>>2466088
>>2466121
>>2466128
>>2466190
>>2467027
>>2467052
>>2467070
>>2467078
>>2467159
Do you guys think that if the jannie in question disappeared from the board, there would be any anons lamenting it within just a few hours kek? I am sincerely touched. I enjoyed updating the thread during my absence to see your comments. While I was tragically cut off from you frens, I went /out/ and said my farewell to the summer sun from the nearby mountaintop, where I read from the Eddas for my wife, and shared cheesy meat pasties and mead. I hope you all had an excellent equinox as well.
>His Aryan Chadness
Thank you for respecting my neo-pronouns, anon.
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>>2467052
I’m glad to hear it! Let’s see some pictures, Sven. My current grease is cheapish Tallipoika saddle grease, which does slightly darken the leather over time. I also use the significantly more expensive Delara Lederpflege, but only if I really wanna avoid darkening the leather. I’m guessing this stuff is called “läderfett” in Swedish. Just make sure that whatever you get is “clear” (the grease will be white or yellow or a similar pale hue) and not mixed with dyes.
Disassemble the pack first. Don’t try to use gloves or a rag to scoop the grease, just use your fingers. Lather all the leatherwork up nicely, make sure to get edges and corners and especially add extra to reinforced parts that are stitched together, since there’s more leather than meets the eye there. Don’t worry about accidentally greasing the canvas a bit. Be careful not to bend or fold the leather sharply, since dry leather will crack (and that’s a pain in the ass to try to repair). The leather, being an organic material, will absorb the grease like your skin absorbs moisturizer. By the time you’ve gone over everything, the first piece you started with is probably ready for another go. Do this maybe once or twice more, depending on how dry the leather is. You can easily let it stand overnight in between greasings. Some of the cheaper greases will leave a dry whiteish film on top of the leather afterwards, which you should rub off with your fingers before applying more grease. If you’re not applying additional grease, you can leave the film on the leather, since it technically adds a bit of protection at the cost of looking odd until it rubs off. If you have leather seams that you would like waterproofed, use beeswax instead. This also works well to waterproof canvas by the way. I have a big poncho that goes over my pack, so I haven’t done this to mine, but you could easily rub beeswax onto the canvas lid and top of the pack to add some rain protection.
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>>2467330
glad to hear you are back
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>>2467331
Thanks. I just bought a cheap leatherbalm yesterday. The pack itself seems to be pretty close to mint condition, no rust, markings, or torn leather etc. The leather was a bit dry(obviously it was built in 1941 after all) but it seems to be getting more supple, just rubbed it with balm for a second time(first time yesterday).

Although there was a small tear or whatever high up on the front of the pack near the cord which is unfortunate but maybe I am just being autistic.
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>>2467330
schaufel bruder!!!!
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We had discussed the feasibility of my LARP in colder weather, and I wanted to see how much space and weight a bunch of extra pelts would take up. In picrel, in total, there is a red deer, a reindeer, a seal and a sheep. There's also the blanket and the very thin Bundeswehr milsurp folding mat. Even on the hard ground we picnic'd at, it was very soft and warm. I am pretty certain that with that amount of comfy, I could easily flirt with overnighting in freezing temps, especially if I don't also have to carry provisions and kit for a giant gluttonous and thirsty dog (he eats and drinks more weight than me kek) and a wife that I won't let lift heavy things.

>>2466571
>>2466602
>>2467027
It looks like you had a nice equinox /out/ing, shovelking. Day-trip or overnighter? I can't believe you had clearer skies than us. We had sudden and heavy thunderstorm and rain for most of the hike up the mountain (hence the poncho), and then back to normal as we reached the top. I did receive some personal good news related to what the thundering charioteer actually represents right before going /out/, so it is possible that the thunder and lightning were signs or blessings. I have seen too many coincidences to discard the possibility kek.

>>2467507
That's great, friend. Keep at it, and remember to maintain the leather in the same way to prolong its lifespan.
>tear
It doesn't look like a tear yet, more like a thread in the canvas got pulled slightly. I wouldn't worry about it, but if you really want to, I guess you could preemptively patch it or something. Maybe some other anon has a better idea.
And again, I am sorry for misunderstanding you in the other thread. That was an embarrassing error on my part, and you did nothing to cause it.

>>2467517
My fellow shovelposter! Are you the anon that lamented my absence in the patch thread kek?
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>>2459182
Why are you pouring water Into the hole?
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>>2467548
Libation to Víðarr, so the tree may grow strong.
>t. not him.
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>>2467541
it was an overnight trip. nice and warm during the day, but went down to 3°C due to the clear skies, i was still comfortable tho, as i had brought enough warm clothes.
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>>2467572
Very nice. I don't know shit about mushrooms, but those look trippy as hell! I dig your Laguiole knife by the way. We have the same, but with a less exciting wooden finish.
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>>2467599
>dog
looks like a good boy
>Laguiole
i have had that since i was in elementary school, was a gift from my grandfather
>shroom
the one pictured would propably give you a nice trip, but only once
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>>2467603
>dog
Likewise, friend. Do you bring yours along on overnighters?
>Laguiole
You have a lot of cool heirlooms, shovelking!
>but only once
Kek.
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>>2467612
>Do you bring yours along on overnighters?
not jet, but i hope to do so in the future, she is still young, this will be her second winter
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>>2467634
Woops. Are you not supposed to take them /out/ when they're puppies?
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>>2467541
Yeah it probably isn't an issue especially since I doubt the backpack is waterproof to begin with.
>And again, I am sorry for misunderstanding you in the other thread.
kek no problem
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>>2467541
>Are you the anon that lamented my absence in the patch thread kek?
nah, different anon. i just saved as many images as i could of the patches.
finding it difficult to find one of those shovels for a reasonable price, will just keep my eye out for them in flea markets and antique shops.
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>>2467548
see
>>2467554 <he is correct.
i was planting trees.
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>>2467680
I appreciate it, anon.
>reasonable price
I got mine from militarysurplus.eu for like 8€ or something kek. But it is also a supersimple Eastbloc quality design - nothing compared to the shovelking's teutonic master-shovel. Check the backpack thread for caveats regarding militarysurplus.eu before using though.
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>>2467659
The breed is selected for hunting and its sometimes hard to control, once the dog has a scent. she has run away twice already (once overnight, because it had gotten to dark and we had to call off the search), trying to catch deer. My father has a much easier time with her, i only see the dog every two weeks, since im gone for university, so i dont have as much control over her.
Next season i plan on taking her overnight.
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>>2467785
That makes sense. Based deerslayer though. Mine is too protective of us to wanna go far. I often run off and hide when he's not paying attention to me, just to reinforce the instinct kek.
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>>2467789
man this really reminds me of STALKER, the movie
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>>2467686
Been thinking of buying leather service boots and I've seen some of your pics. Which ones are you wearing and would you recommend them?
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>>2467789
is this some kind of bunker? reminds me of fighting positions i saw in normandy
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>>2468211
I'm wearing dress boots kek. They're Loakes (model Wolf or Bedale), made in bongland. Easily the most expensive part of my otherwise relatively cheap kit, but very comfy, very high quality and obviously supremely
a e s t h e t i c
Decent shot of them here: >>2467541
If I were to buy leather boots again, I'd probably go with the Loake Hikers. They look easier to clean and maintain, have a bit of, but still minimal padding, and a much more grippy sole. If I wasn't so autistic about wearing natural leather colors, I'd go with some Scandi/Germanic/Swiss milsurp leather boots. There's a bunch of cheap, neat-looking and supposedly comfy and tough leather boots from those armies, but they're black. Much cheaper than handmade British dress boots too kek. There are plenty of perfectly decent more modern leather boots, but they tend to be chunkier and more padded, which I dislike.
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>>2468215
The Atlantikwall stretched from the Pyrennees to the Arctic. I took the pup to a part of it in Jutland some years ago. German 1945 tourists still haven't picked up their litter...
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I recently got this from amazon. It's currently being used for landscaping, and it's performing well in rocky clay Georgia soil. 40.00.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083BNJMC3?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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>>2464846
Turn it into a smaller shovel. Trim it down with an angle grinder, and install a short wooden handle.
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>>2468516
The brotherhood keeps on growing.
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>>2464908
square shovels are better for moving dirt, while pointed ones are better for penetrating imto the dirt.
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>>2468525
what is the choice behind the choice of military issue shovels though? simply that they expect the terrain to be softer so it will be easier to build a trench?
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>>2468531
no idea. but i would say, if you are digging a trench as a platoon, you will have a couple of pickaxes to loosen the dirt and then move it by e tool. also the square shovelhs been enough for the ground around me so far.
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>>2468532
>trenches
Real digging requires real shovels (or even better, engineers with specialized vehicles). Granted, it was -20C in picrel, but even with full sized tools, it took us all day to dig this three-man foxhole. Infantry has shovels and shit on their troop transports.
E-tools and field spades and so on are for light work or emergency use. Rommel describes this well in Infantry Attacks. Just a foot-deep shallow grave is a gigantic cover improvement over lying flat on the surface.
>>2468516
One of us, one of us, one of us.
>>2468521
Next-level motivation, right there.
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This had been at the post office for a month. Nobody bothered to tell me anything. Spaniards are the laziest people I've ever met kek.
Swiss canteen and cup (marked '63) and poles and stakes (marked '40 and '42). Czech canteen (leather marked '57). I really needed the extra water in this infernal place.
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>>2469025
the flask at the bottom reminds me so much of the magic potion from Asterix
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>>2469034
Based ethnonationalist comic book reference.
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>>2469025
i carry 3.5l for over nighters (i use almost all of it).
Cant imagine carrying all that in canteens.
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>>2469050
It is not very practical, I'll give you that. Without using any plastic at all, I've got almost 4L in five canteens now, two Swiss on the belt, three Czechs on straps. The wife has her own Swiss canteen. Source bladders were a lot easier kek, but this LARP wont LARP itself, now will it?
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>>2468521
oh that's a fuckin good idea, but i left it behind, it was only aluminium anyways.
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>>2458625
How long have you had it and how much did that cost? I never trust Chinease and Chineasium-based products now out of principle and expected reliability.

Had one of these (>>2459182) for a while and later had to replace it for another NATO design shovel after the fucker I left it with decided to use it as a fucking AXE on downed timber.
It's a good design that lends you a functional handle and very suitible shovel when fully-exteded. You can also wind down the screw haft and lower the shovel-head for more "pick-axe/hoe" like motions. I await the day I am justified in defending myself; to either bash someone's head in or attempt to use it like a buckler. Later I bought a DPM entrenching tool pouch for it as a nice cover that lets me keep a few other things inside and a choice to wear it on my person or hide it in my bag without worrying about shit getting scratched or covered in mud.
Getting a Cold-Steel spetnaz shovel soon, so I'm interested to see the difference in weight and utility, though expect to use the NATO still because of my planned bug-out kit.
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>>2469155
>I await the day I am justified in defending myself; to either bash someone's head in or attempt to use it like a buckler.
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>>2469160
>>2469161
Saved.
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>>2469165
saved that
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>>2469161
lol fuck that. i would not want to fight someone shovel vs bayonet.
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>>2469165
Kekekek brilliant!
Strong contender for the official shovelposting patch. I'm a big fan of the Jolly Roger and other black flags.
>>2469176
Hm. A bolt action rifle with a bayonet is a pretty short and slow spear, and a shovel is a somewhat axe- or messer-like weapon. Assuming equal skill and no tactical advantages (and no bullets kek), I don't think it's a given that the bayonet always takes the shovel, since it can't be retracted as quickly as a proper spear, whereas the shovel can be moved with speed.
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>>2469180
i just wish FOG fags wouldnt have soiled that flag.
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>>2469196
I'm not a burger, but I am vaguely aware of some social media toughguy craze using this flag some years ago - is that what you're referring to?
I bought a bunch of different ones that I stumbled upon while shopping for some other piece of kit, during a period of some... disagreements with my superiors that I thought funny to highlight in my own little way. But I was a beardless lanklet then, so I was never a part of any macho swolebro tactimale beard-oil instagram thing.
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>>2469206
there have been some tough guy instagramm ecelebs that used a bastardized version of blackbeards flag and the whole thing has seen a resurgence since february.
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>>2469227
Gotcha. I logged off social media years ago and haven't looked back since; and I especially have not been paying attention to that Orwellian propagandashow in the East.
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>>2469180
>Assuming equal skill and no tactical advantages
But anon, isn't tactical advantage the very spirit of the Schaudelbruderschaft?
A shovel-user would pick his fight in the right terrain, deftly shoveling sand in the eyes of his intellectually inferior attacker, then he'd kick the bayonet user into the spike ditch which in typical Schaufenbrüder preparedness he had dug in advance, just in case.
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>>2469233
Naturally, shovelbrother, naturally. But one must put aside the innately superior warcraft and Fingerspitzengefühl of a shovelposter to fairly assess the weapon itself.
>deftly shoveling sand
Kek. This one got me particularly hard.
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>>2469237
>shovels with deftly intent
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>>2469240
Kek
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>>2469165
absolutely brilliant.
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>>2468516
What’s with the relay?
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>>2469591
I'm an electrician. It's a part of an access control system.
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fsafasfas
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>>2458625
love a good tool thread
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>>2470260
nice shovel-rack
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I'm gonna try to hunt for a flat spot on this damn mountain I live on to setup camp today, and I thought you guys might be interested in the LARP kit list. Modern shit is marked with an asterisk (not all of it will ever be replaced, I'm quite happy to have a modern high-lumen flashlight and a CAT TQ with me for example). The temps are gonna drop to almost 10C at night, so it is the first time I can give a proper estimate useful for people living in places that aren't lava-planets.
Webgear:
>Shovel for the shovel god
>First aid kit*
>Boo-boo kit*
>Pepper spray* (am disarmed europoor)
>Flashlight*
>Multitool, lighter and other EDC items*
>2 canteens + cup
>Unlicensed gardening tool (aka. big knoif')
>Tent pole and stakes
>Canvas poncho/tarp
>Maintenance kit (ie. needles, thread, duct tape, superglue, whetstone, wire, etc.)
>Toilet paper & hand sanitizer*
Breadbag:
>Food
>Spoon
>Hand Towel
>Some lengths of paracord*
>3 canteens on their own straps
Rucksack:
>The Poetic Edda
>Lantern* (oldschool Feuerhand still in the mail)
>Thin folding foam mat*
>Sheepskin
>More paracord*
>Toiletries (incl. anti-diarrhetics, painkillers, etc.)*
>Spare socks and shirt
>Storm-burner (also contains var. kitchen stuff, tea and cocoa powder)
Blanket Roll (strapped to the rucksack):
>A second canvas poncho/tarp
>Reindeer pelt
>Wool blanket
Comfy Roll (strapped above the rucksack)
>Large red deer pelt
Extra Shelters (strapped below the rucksack):
>A third and fourth canvas poncho/tarp
>A second pole and more stakes

Web-gear, breadbag and canteens come in at about 10 kg (dry and without food), and the rucksack with all the extras (picrel) comes in at about 15 kg. All in all, I'll end up at around 30 kilos, which is about 1/3rd bodyweight for me. I could easily cut a couple of kilos by skipping the Comfy Roll and the Extra Shelters, but I'm gonna bring everything this time to test out some different combinations. Thoughts and prayers to my reconstructed knee kek.
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>>2470260
Very cool! I have that heavy Romanian folder too.
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>>2470445
based Feuerhand enjoyer
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Someone had to show some love to the spetsnaz shovel. Kek
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>>2470536
nice OC
>>2470445
What kind of food do you normally bring? Does it conform to your LARP?
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>>2470691
>What kind of food
This time, I brought my wife's ham and cheese pie from the day before, a bunch of my wife's cookies, and some assorted nuts and berries from the kitchen. I've got tea and hot cocoa as well (no coffee, since I realized we didn't have any instant coffee). And mead in a hip flask. Last time, I brought my wife's meat pasties and bananas. I am lucky to have a woman that prioritizes both healthy and tasty foods and cooks well (and daily!), so I can generally just snatch leftovers and raid the pantry. If I was going for longer, I could bring some cans of whatever.
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>conform to LARP
To be clear; I call it a LARP, but it is technically neither a LARP nor reenactment, but rather a way to stay connected to my forefathers. My vaguely conceptualized "rules" are something like:
>Avoid synthetic materials like the plague; prioritize materials like steel, linen and wool
>Prioritize stuff made in Europe; avoid globohomo and international capitalism
>Prioritize second hand and surplus; avoid consumerism and brandfagging
There's no fixed "time period" or anything, and not everything conforms to the rules. My pepper spray is plastic, my flashlight is very modern and Chinese, and my hat is brand new. I don't think those three items will be replaced with more rule-conforming items for example.
What I am interested in is seeing how those who came before me went /out/. I come from a long line of /out/ists. My hat being polycotton doesn't affect the experience much; but if I brought my JetBoil or Optimus stove, my high-tech Carinthia sleeping gear, my hydration bladders, then that suddenly changes things. I have also already spent many years going /out/ with all the most cutting edge high-tech stuff I could afford, so that has become rather uninteresting to me. And of course, I simply have an aesthetic preference for the turn of the last century as well.
>>2470536
>Gulagporn
Kek, very naisz.
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>>2470971
I don't do this but yeah this is cool and I fully understand it. I don't even think it's "based". This kind of approach to hobbies is probably the last bastion against rampant conformity and industrialization of the human brain.
This state of play where you do things for the sake of discovery is one of the biggest things that are being lost today.
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I lied on my packing list. I brought my new translation of the Volsungersaga rather than the Edda.
Sleeping gear was arranged as follows: tarp, thin foam mat, red deer, reindeer on the ground. I then used the sheepskin as a pillow, and the blanket on top. Two additional tarps then formed a roof and wall. Picrel shows the shelter before raising the roof and attaching the wall. The campsite was angled, making the whole affair frustrating and sleep was interrupted due to the sliding, but the kit performed well. The blanket is not really long enough for me, but it's hard to find grown Scandi-sized wool blankets. I was very warm until the last few hours until dawn, where the temp actually dropped to a bit over 10C. The chill could have been prevented by closing the shelter earlier, rather than letting it ventilate for as long as I did (it was too warm to keep closed during the first half of the night), by adding leaves and shit under the shelter, by using the fourth tarp as a blanket and by bringing a jacket. No biggie. I wore wool pants and a thin and a thicker cotton shirt, unknown composition socks, a merino gaiter and beanie, and put on thick wool socks at some point during the night.
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>want to go backpacking
>take a shovel for what
nobody takes a chainsaw and a garden trowel, just little toys they never use
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>>2470977
Cheers, I completely agree. I am extremely traditionally minded when it comes to politics, but I consider this pseudo-LARP to be a form of experimental archaeology or historical research, rather than any sort of political statement. I am not against conformity per say, I am just disgusted with modernity, and thus refuse to conform to that. I wear wool and leather around the house too, and so does my wife - but we obviously still have a fridge and I'm typing this on a computer and so on kek.
>Picrel
Here's the shelter with the roof raised and the wall mostly buttoned up. I used a stick and a cord tied to a nearby branch to lift up the roof a bit extra. The shelter easily had enough room for me and all my kit. I'm used to sleeping in a Carinthia GTX bivy-bag, leaving my kit outside - this was similar but waaay more roomy. I could've fit my wife OR my dog in there as well. Obviously I could've skipped using a tarp as a floor, and just made this with two tarps. The wall can of course also be omitted in bug-free yet warmer weather.
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Shovel came in not only handy, but absolutely necessary in clearing out all the bushes and shit. There were significant roots that had to be chopped up. I could've used an axe (didn't bring one) or the knife, but this would have utterly ravaged their much finer edges. The shovel also easily got rid of all the rocks, and was useful for general scraping debris and superficial levelling. I also used it to hammer in the four stakes I used, since all the rocks here were porous as fuck. If I had had to stay here multiple nights, I would have dug out the site properly, so I could've slept level.
>>2470980
Antishovel dissident BTFO'd.
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One of my favorite aspects of this type of kit is that the items are very multipurpose. I know that you can get versatility from specially made modern gear as well (I have a lovely Hill People Mountain Serape, for example); but it is just so easy with a lot of older stuff. Picrel is layering first with my sheepskin/pillow, then a poncho/tarp, then my web-gear, and then the blanket held with a brooch. Of course, compared to lightweight modern stuff, I probably still end up carrying more weight, but I still find it neat - and I look like a dieselpunk Dunedain.
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My humble homage to the OG Pirate shovelposter.
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And another. Color versions because colors are nice.
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>>2470971
what if you've been larping your whole life? when does the larp become my reality? this is the thing i don't think people get, they see someone doing something in a different aesthetic or with "superflous" gear and just shout "larp" ... I'm not larping as anything and like yeah maybe i could have bought normal gear, but you normies could have bought my gear, also i don't really have anything else.
>inb4
>if you don't do things in the exact way that everyone else is doing them around you then you're a LARPER!!!!
>everything must be exactly the way i say or it's a LARP!
>i'm not the autistic one, you are!!!
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>>2471156
Good take. I agree. I don't think I've owned more than one or two pairs of jeans since childhood. I've always dressed eccentrically. I just don't really object to people calling it a LARP if that makes people wrap their heads around it easier. I don't mind being called a pagan either, for example, even though that is not technically how I think of myself. The word pagan, just like LARP, is just an easy way to communicate 80% of the concept.
I just thought I ought to clarify that I am not actually reenacting anything nor speaking Tolkien's Elvish kek.
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These are fun to make!
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>>2471156
i personly just started calling whatever i do /out/doors "LARPing" so that it cant be used to ridicule my choice of gear.
Also generally Larping isnt a bad thing, as long as you are having fun, why would you care, what other people think?
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>>2471226
LARPer as an insult doesn't even address any of this shit, it's for people who buy gear for bugging out or survival while never leaving the basement
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>>2471243
NTA. The /out/ version of the mall ninja, right? That's the problem with overusing insults, eventually they lose their impact, and people just preemptively "insult" themselves to avoid having to deal with it.
>>2471226
Also NTA. I'm not a big (actual) LARPer, but I've tried it a few times. I like whacking people with rubber sticks. Picrel is back when I worked at an after-school thing and we attended a post-apoc LARP for kids. We spent days making the costumes, painting NERF-guns and so on. Great fun.
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Last set for today.
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>>2471251
Genuinely looks like a makeup test from a Mad Max movie.
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>>2471497
Thanks, anon!
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>>2460361
I use it for trench warfare against the Gnomes.
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>>2471578
Gnomes are an existential threat to our great surface-dwelling volk!
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>>2472018
>quadnods
>Artillerieluger
>Shovel
i love this picture, saved.
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>>2472018
Now that the kit for gnome hunting has been established, we need to figure out, what is the proper equipment for hunting Hrimthursen (Ice Giants).
Is .308 enough or should we go up to .338 Lapua for taking out Ymirs kin?
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>>2469025
In case you didn't know, if you soak the fabric around the bottom canteen in a stream or something it keeps your water cooler on a warm day. You do have to have a wet canteen at that point though lol
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>>2472092
Cheers. I drew it without any particular aim, but when I saw anon's Gnome comment, the synchronicity of it all revealed itself.
>>2472129
Damnit, now I've gotta draw an S18 or an L39 or something kek. 20x138mmB is obviously the patrician's choice for the larger, much rarer Jotnar. You don't want to risk a smaller projectile ricocheting off their icy skin. Traditional rifle calibers ought to do fine against your typical human-sized Neanderthalian Jotnar. The Teutonic Elves seemed perfectly content with their 7.92x57mm when they were dropping Jotnar 5:1 while on the offensive on the Eastern Front.
>>2472155
Cheers, good advice! The wet wool works great in the heat, and in the frost, the (dry) wool keeps the water from freezing for a bit longer. Modern canteens are usually just plastic - I remember having to smash chunks of ice out of mine while on winter exercises...
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>>2471000
>>2472018
lel nice
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>>2472018
I just finished a companion piece for this guy.
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>>2472453
really enjoying your artstyle, great choice of coulors.
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>>2472453
Kek you like Keith Thompson do you
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>>2458625
I'll just leave this here.
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>>2473509
I actually love this shit unironically
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>>2473504
Thank you, anon. You might like yesterday's piece too then.
>>2473508
I'm vaguely familiar with him. Are you referring to the anachronistic dieselpunkesque vibe?
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>>2473529
based and Götterdämmerung pilled
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>>2473529
>Are you referring to the anachronistic dieselpunkesque vibe?
Yep but also the color choices and linework.
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>>2473545
>bäsëd änd Göttërdämmërüng pïllëd
We all ride with the wild hunt eventually!
>>2473560
I guess I can see some similarities now that I'm browsing his site, although I don't see the resemblance in the linework. I essentially just trace photos on my tablet, whereas he clearly starts from a pretty detailed pencil sketch. I'll gladly take it as a compliment though, he's a talented guy. I've loved speculative fiction/dieselpunk since reading Jules Verne books and playing Wolfenstein games. I guess these three pieces are modernitypunk antiegalitarian agitprop kek.
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>>2473576
>We all ride with the wild hunt eventually!
at least those of us, who are fortunate enough to fall, with a weapon in our hands.
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>>2473613
In all seriousness, I am pretty sure this is a misunderstanding or Abrahamic propaganda.
I believe that we all (Germanics; possibly all those of sufficient Indo-European ancestry; possibly even all living beings) travel Yggdrasil's branches and are eventually reborn. For example, see Thrymskvida, knowing that Thor is your Life Force, Mjølnir is your Hearbeat, Freya is the Ovum, and so on. The mysterious stanzas of the Havamal where Odin sacrifices himself to himself also point to this, since Odin is the name for your wandering (ie. reincarnating) Spirit and Yggdrasil/Sleipnir is simply Death/Funeral (and secondarily, the Cosmos).
I think our ancestors believed that those of us who die fighting or in the course of some other worthy cause (such as childbirth) deservedly get special treatment in the temporary afterlives of Valhal (Place of the Chosen Slain) and Folkvangr (Place of the People) whereas the rest of us just kinda zone out in Hel (Covered/Unseen Place) until we come back here.
But I'm a Nordic animist, not a Norse polytheist, so your mileage may vary.
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>>2471000
what kind of poncho/tarp is that?
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>>2473674
Norwegian post-war milsurp. I don't know their proper designation. Essentially a double-zeltbahn for the giant Hyperboreans.
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>>2473676
holy based they seem great
I'm about to order two of them. Do you have any other gear you would recommend, like your backpack and maybe trousers?
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>>2473693
>I'm about to order two of them.
Where?
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>>2473693
That's great!
>trousers
I wear €20 Swedish wool trousers from 1939. They are great, especially considering the price. Nice and "high waisted" (meaning actually on the waist), decent amount of crotch, but a bit slim-fitted (makes the wife happy though). My summer trousers are handmade in linen by my wife.
>Backpack
Also Swedish M39, good for the €55ish price.
>Other gear
In general, a ton of what you see in my pictures is Swedish, like the storm burner, the medium sized leather belt pouches, the dark breadbag (the lighter one is Swiss) etc. So far, I am happy with most of my kit, and would recommend it for anyone who wants to do a similar wool and steel thing. It is easier for me to recommend or warn you from specific items if you specify stuff or give me a link to the store you're buying from.
>>2473695
Anyone who wants some should grab 'em while they can. They seem rare - I think I spent about €45 a piece. If anon posts a link to some that are in stock, I'll wait a few days so anyone ITT can get to 'em and then I might just buy a few extra myself.
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>>2473676
legit cloak of elvenkind
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>>2473695
https://www.outdoorfan.de/Norwegische-Zeltbahn-oliv-gebraucht
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>>2473676
>>2473693
>>2473695
They're gone forever it seems.
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>>2473727
Germanics are literally elvenkind (for example, see the name Olaf: Elf-heir), since the elves in myth represent the Germanic ancestors.
>>2473733
Sweet, that looks exactly like mine. And 30% cheaper than what I paid for them no less. Since I already have some, and we can't see how many are in stock there, I'll wait until the end of the week before buying extra if any still remain.
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>>2473738
based and communitypilled
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>>2473733
they also have romanian shovels, so be shure to pick one up, when you get your shelter half.
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>>2473744
oh nice I'll take that as well :)
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>>2473744
Based and on-topic-pilled.
I also see various oldschool mess kits, plash palatkas, BW folding sleeping mats and cheapo Romanian backpacks. There's a surplus category under Themen called Gebrauchte Armeeware, if you're like me and just wanna skip to the old stuff. Prices seem generally fine, some stuff is a bit more expensive than what I've seen elsewhere, some stuff is cheaper than elsewhere.
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Is there a native German speaker than can clarify whether 'originalgetreue' means 'faithful reproduction' or 'actually an original'? I assume the first, but want to be certain.
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>>2473766
originalgetreu means faithful to the original, so it is implied, that the item in question is a reproduction
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>>2473773
Danke. That seems like quite the Happy Merchant trick kek.
Captcha: MW GOY kek
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>>2470982
You are strange hipsters. Have fun with it but definitely don't get some kind of ego from your choices like many hipsters do.
I prefer to fit in with the people
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>>2474018
>Just don't enjoy the way you live your life, that would be weird
>I prefer to comform with the managerial class' expectations for the masses
Thanks for your meaningful input, rando.
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>>2474018
>I prefer to fit in with the people
ngmi
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>>2474142
The prey animal's instinct to fit in with the herd (see zebras for a clear example) is a good survival mechanism for the species, and it is the evolutionary reason for the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality of most of these no-fun midwit spergs. He might not make it, but his herd will.
I'm still gonna wear whatever I want though.
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>he likes shovels
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>>2474167
Kek
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