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tentcucks not allowed
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Reminder
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>>2398129
Wedges are comfy
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>>2398077
The fact that this looks like a homeless persons campsite just makes it better.
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>>2398077
None of these will fully protect you from shitty weather (heavy rain, high winds, snow)
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>>2398198
Only of you're retarded and can't tell which way that shit blows in.
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>>2398077
Are RVfags allowed?
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>>2398171
Homeless people have propane canisters, camping chairs, and needles though
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>>2398201
that's because I made them when it was nice out. You can make sealed setups and use multiple tarps.
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>>2398233
No they're too fat to hike into backcountry with overnight gear
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>>2398129
These are tents with extra steps and less enclosure. More work for less payoff. WTF?
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I usually don't even throw a tarp over my hammock. I camp in a high desert forest so I take advantage of that to sleep under the stars and the beautiful forest canopy.
I should get a net though. Any tarp bros got a suggestion?
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>>2398260
>You can make sealed setups and use multiple tarps
Why not just get a fucking tent?
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>>2398332
I keep seeing this posted but I never get anything more. Are those tube sections inflated? Neat cowboy camping set up.
>>2398396
We get it, you prefer purpose made tools over large components. If you shut up for once, instead of trying to derail threads. You may learn why people like things you don't. How people may have different priorities or experience than you. The problems you have had may have been solved long ago.
But don't come from a position of authority, demanding answers. On a fucking anime focused imageboard's outdoors board.
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>>2398201
it absolutely will
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>>2398412
Yes sir. It's a tarp that you can blow into to inflate a pad. The bag it's carried in also inflates to a pillow.
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>>2398372
>I should get a net though
Hammock shill here. If your hammock doesn’t have an attached bug net, there are two options, neither of them really great.

>bottom entry
Aka a Fronkey bug net. There’s no zipper, just a large bungee opening on the bottom. These must be used with an underquilt, otherwise your ass is exposed to mosquitoes.

>zipper entry
This will be a net that fully encapsulates the hammock. Wilderness Logics was the only company that had a decent zipper design. Everything else is crap.
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euro tarpchads, where can I get a tent bathub floor in EU? I can't find any online, it's hard to find the correct keywords
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>>2398260
can you post what that might look like? I'm thinking if switching to tarps myself so i don't have to carry a tent
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>>2399234
What if you need a pad and a tarp?
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>>2399652
https://youtu.be/L8lw64__n8M
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>>2399690
That's.. what it is
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>>2399586
I think you mean footprint. Try searching for tarp or tent footprint. Sometimes they are also referred to as groundsheets
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>>2399234
what do i search to find one? like i want one but like wtf is it?
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I made this tarp with integral net myself
It's great for the north (I'm in Finland) when the weather's not too bad, keeps the bug out, very light and quick to set up
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>>2400276
Just have to secure the net with weights as there is not sewn groundsheet

It looks a bit small in the picture, but it's actually not. You can sit and I slept with two other people under it. No condensation.
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>>2400276
Noice.
Sleep tight.
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I'll be honest I pretty much only ever use one or 2 tarp set ups when camping. The Holden and the pyramid. I got double a lightbulb essentially from big W attached to my hiking stick. Always too sketched out my eucalyptus tree branches to sleep under them so free standing works for me.
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>>2399905
i can find a ground sheet, but I wanted something like this
I only used my tarp with good weather but I wouldn't mind using it with rain but I'm worried that water can still get into my stuff with just a ground sheet, is this pointless? Also I could use it to camp under rocks where I'm protected from the rain but water might pool/run
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>>2400421
I'm getting this way. I like having some options but I might switch from a square to a rectangular tarp to get a little more length. About 80% of the time it's an A frame or lean-to and in light weather dropping a side down cover it. In bad weather I think I can still do a hexamid or similar of needed or star tent sorta pitch.
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>>2400551
I guess it wouldn't be too hard to DIY if I don't find one
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>>2400555
Oook works maybe? They make one for the trailstar, probably do others
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>>2400551
Ahh I see what you mean. You could always just put rocks/sticks around the edge of a normal groundsheet to raise/fold it up if you are concerned. I've never had that problem tho when tarp camping. As long as you don't place your shelter somewhere retarded you should be good
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>>2399234
What's the hole looking thing on the upper part?
you made this?
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i want to experiment more with not being a tentcuck
whats a good tarp for me?
>for 1-3 day trips 3 seasons in the pnw
>light enough to bring for emergency use for day hikes
>bout 100bux or less
is the rab siltarp good enough for the rains here or should i get something more like the one in op (aquaquest guide)
>>2400551
you'll usually see those marketed as bathtub ground sheets, sometimes more marketed to tent usage, varying levels of structure to them.
i forgot what that exact model is one of my friends used to have one for the winter.
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>>2400767
DD hammock tarp works well.
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>>2400924
regular one, or is the superlight good too?
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>>2400551
https://altongoods.com/collections/popular-right-now/products/ultralight-ground-set

Alton Goods have a bunch of this kind of stuff. They're an AU company but I would expect them to be available in EU. Bit expensive but very good quality.
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>>2400655
one of the arm holes
it's a tarp you can wear
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>>2400767
DD Hammocks Ultralight 3x3m, i have it, it's really as good as a tarp can get.
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>>2400556
>>2400635
>>2400767
thanks fellow tarpchads
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>>2401373
missed this anon >>2400968 , thanks aswell
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>>2400276
Very cool I want one, how did you make it?
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>>2401386
Well I made some patterns, bought rip stop and mosquito net from extremtextil (I'm a euro, go to ripstop by the roll if you are American), then sewn ripstop together, then net, added the loops and finally sealed the seams with silicone.

I actually made two of them with a friend and the price was about 50€ each including shipping.

If you want you can give me your snap or email or something I can send you my patterns and help you if you need.
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>Ground mat
>Bug netting
>Waterproof cover

It's literally a tent you cringe larper.
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>>2401646
half the thread is reee'ing over tarps not being tentlike enough and the other half is reee'ing over them being to much like a tent. the point of a tarp setup is that it can be anything you need it to be depending on conditions. my preferred setup is just to sleep in the open on a ground sheet, but obviously that is somtimes not possible due to weather conditions so I carry a tarp.
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>>2398077
>being insulated from the ground and bugs and dirt and mud and weather is bad because it just is ok
Buy a tent lmao
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>>2401784

A nonfreestanding tent is a shaped tarp. A bivy is a combined groundsheet and rain fly. It's all iterations of the same. But a shaped tarp had more pitching options than a traditional tent (inner/no inner, high pitch or low, etc). A flat tarp has even more pitching options. They have different strengths for sure, wouldn't take a flat tarp into the alpine or perhaps the desert, but its a whole sorta feel to wake up in a lean-to or half-mid rather than in a the normal dome tent.
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I got a couple AliExpress specials to give tarp camping a chance.
The big bivy is sized for a child, as my shoulders touch the sides and still get bit by mosquitoes.
The tarp is a fire something brand 15D sheet and is great, I just need to get better at setting it up, and get some stakes.

I live where there are a lot of scorpions, snakes, ticks, and mosquitoes. So I need to find a better netting system.
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>>2403416
A regular bug net for home use weighs about 300g (2x2x2m). I think you should look into them.
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Can anyone explain the purpose for the fucked-up organization of tieouts on the MEC Guide's tarp?
They are not evenly placed along the side, and look like they have a specific function.
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I got a a small poncho to save on weight and space in my pack and ive been liking it so far. Only downside is i cant fit a bike under it with me but that old piece of shit is a pile of rust anyway
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>>2401980
>A nonfreestanding tent is a shaped tarp.
Yeah, it’s exactly the same thing with absolutely no differences at all. It just has a floor that attaches to the walls, often via a bug net, a vestibule, and a door for entry, and can only be pitched one way. But yeah, it’s totally the same thing.
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>spends all his money for an rainsheet
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Reminder that tents are tarps that actually do their job.
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>>2403833
I say this tarp and bivy is as heavy as my tent, but less comfy.
Check and mate, m8.
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>>2403990
Tarp is 200g and cost me 20-25$ bivy is 1500g and cost me 60$
Also the tarp doubles as a rain poncho
This setup is cheap, versatile, customizable, stealthy and to my liking so you can shove that tent up your ass faggot
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>>2404086
The poncho is 300g excuse me, and i put a couple extra bucks into fixing the bivy
Now tell me about your tent homo
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>>2403837
But it is basically the same when it comes to function of weather. A mid with an inner is just a single wall trekking pole tent with a removable inner. Shelters are all pretty much the same, just depend on how much flexibility or customization there is. And it's useful because I'm a 6ft+ Chad I fit into very few complete tent setups but I can buy a 12ft tarp anywhere. Throw in a bug net and bobs your uncle.

>>2403881
I fucking love tarps. Imagine being stuck inside a tiny tent when you have a bit of rain.
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>>2404092
what's a bivy?
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>>2403416

i would appreciate some aliexpress recommendations for tarps.
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>>2404471
Sleeping bag condom.
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>>2404475
that doesn't sound comfortable at all
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Bike camping is pretty comfy.

Tarp is an great addition to the swag. It keeps the dew and the rain off.

It's also a nice place to sit out of the sun after a few hours on the trails.

I used to use an old army hutchie, but this Alton goods tarp is much nicer.
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>>2404477
They suck ass in wet months, you can't really do much shit except lay down. Tarp race is master race.
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>>2404465
>Imagine being stuck inside a tiny tent when you have a bit of rain.
Imagine being stuck with a tiny tarp when it pours.

Tarps have their place, but it's not sleeping under them in the summer (insects) or heavy rain.

>>2404086
>Tarp is 200g and cost me 20-25$ bivy is 1500g and cost me 60$
Cost is no problem for grown ups. My tent cost 450€.

>>2404473
DD Hammock 3mx3m has great quality and tieouts. They have a regular and lighter version, i had both, they are both very good.
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>>2404665
I've been in more down pours in my fucking huge 9x12 tarp then my rei halfdome.
>bugs
What is a net tent for 100, anon. One of the biggest benefits is being able to swap in whatever auxiliary item is needed for a trip. After fall, the net stays home until spring. Simple as.

>>2404471
Bivy ranges from a water-resistant sack for your sleeping bag to waterproof ultraminimalist tents with a hoop and bug net. They pair well with a tarp, size depending on how weather worthy the bivy is, to make up for the cramped conditions of the bivy.
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>tarps
>mesquites and ticks have entered the chat

just another average day larping on /out/ with things nearly no one does in the real world.
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>>2404780
at what level of outdoor experience is someone no longer considered a larper on /out/?
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>>2398332
>the master tarp
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>>2398424
you wouldn't survive 10 minutes in norway
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>>2404909
you shouldnt talk about the refugees that way



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