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Is this a good all-in-one grab or is it too cheap? For $42 I feel like its not going to be very good, but reviews seem to be alright.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B095HD91WM/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_dl_5F9GHZCS8RHQTM14427G

Discuss electronic tools for camping & survival innawoods.
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Sorry, here's a better link. They do the same thing but this is shorter.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B095HD91WM/
Don't know why it added all that shit at the end
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please stop larping and going out for once. All these shitty threads probably by the same faggot.
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An easy and cheep purchase I’d suggest for /out/doorsmen is a battery case for your phone. It’s essentially a smartphone battery in a separate case that the smartphone slips/snaps into, giving you a full recharge with the press of a button.
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>>2372790

A portable AGM or nowadays, lithium battery powerpack is also handy to have, not just for camping but also in the event of a power outage at home.

I've got pic related (though not the solar panel) that I got off Sportsman's Guide years back for only $60 (they're a lot more nowadays) and it's got a 55Ahr AGM battery with an AC/DC converter.
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you don't need any electronics to go outdoors
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>>2372797
>or nowadays, lithium battery powerpack

This is a modern and more capable (350Ah) lithium battery powerpack.
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>>2372805

If you’ve got a bit of technical skill, you can put together your own battery powerpack for much cheeper, putting all the components in an Rubbermaid ActionPacker bin.
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>>2372811

Though again, you probably want to go with a lithium battery nowadays.
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>>2372815

Though it will be shit on here, the Boilite is a neato gadget that will recharge a smartphone and such.
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>>2372819

Of course the easiest way to provide electrical power out inna woods, is with a generator. I got this Ryobi 1000w _alternator_ type generator from Homey Depot for $550 several years back, after a couple of power outages one summer and it’s the same as the more expensive Honda or Yamaha models (which are around $1000).
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>>2372822

Do NOT get a cheeper old style generating head type generator, (the kind you see on construction sites) as they produce a “dirty” electrical current that can fuck up modern sensitive electronics, like your smartphone and laptop.
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>>2372823

Finally, if you've got property with a stream on it, you could build a hydro-electric generator.
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>>2372815
yeah lets just carry 20kg worth of lead acid for 10 hours, thats not going any further than the carpark
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>>2372830
>carry
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>>2372768
I just use my baofeng, although I suppose having multiple ways to charge would be nice. I think I would prefer to just carry one of those spare battery packs with the solar panel on it. More versatility that way. The baofeng also works as a transmitter, so that gives me some peace of mind.
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>>2372855
no surprise you Americans are fat
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>>2372856

I bought one of these Grundig hand-crank radios years back and have it packed away somewhere in a box.
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>>2372857

I kinda feel bad for you europoor urban hive-dwellers, while Americans have 3.8 million sq miles (that’s 9,833,517 sq km for you metric types) to explore.
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>>2372829
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>>2372865
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>>2372862
the hypocrisy calling anyone else urban hive dwellers when you cant go anywhere without dragging 100kg of electronic appliances with you, the environment gives you everything you need bar some bare essentials like clothes and food
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>>2372869

Nigel, please. What’s the point of you carrying an ultra-lite titanium spork, when you’re never more then a hundred yards from civilization?
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>>2372874
that's where you're wrong bucko, my country has the best /out/ in the world and the best part is there's no roads to most of it so it keeps you fat fucks out
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>>2372874
>look at how big our country is
>an endless desert of monocrop
gee what a thrilling outdoors experience
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>>2372878

Have they let you out of your covid sheds yet?

>>2372879

Oi gov'nor, how about a spot of the old "hiking"?
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>>2372884
yes
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>>2372869
>100kg
Sorry bro I don't speak faggot. Regardless it sounds like a poorfag cope because your bitchass euroqueer cars can't even hold that amount of extra weight.
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>>2372894
>I'm fat and proud of it
your cars need the extra carrying capacity just to haul your enormous asses around
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>>2372879
>an endless desert of monocrop
Endless deserts of evergreens
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>another redd/int/ thread on /out/
none of you go outside
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>>2372858
I picked up the DEGEN DE-13 a few months back from chink express. Works like a charm. Powered by rechargeable battery, Solar or crank. It can also be used to power smartphones etc. 4 different bands, flashlight and other stuff
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>>2373034
>DEGEN
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Are urinepeons really this insecure ?
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>>2372829
>>2372865
>>2372868
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrCvcRxFfyzu8IdzghRF66pqH7M0yQZ6S
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Posted this in /seamen general/ but no response. I have one of these Jackerys and it’s pretty good to have on a boat. I’d like to add a portable solar panel that I can just tie to the deck and bring to another boat if I want. Any recommendations? Looking for portable and waterproof.
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>>2373185
yup, they each want to keep their particular legacy master race fantasies, but even in the more developed countries, the yurp middle classes live like Detroit welfare lifers.
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>>2372895
>REEE I keep screaming my magic word but the first worlders won't care!!!11
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>>2375314
>not denying you are a glutton with no self control
embarrassing
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>>2375345
>[angry savage sounds]
kek.
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>>2372829
Overshot is superior technology.
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>>2373034
Several years ago, I purchased a similar model that also had a microsd slot and a mp3 player. The LCD screen is starting to show a little wear, but otherwise, everything still works perfectly.

Note that with many radios of this type, you have to choose between shortwave and NOAA bands; you can't get both.
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>>2375634
this.
for a small DIY system using the descending mass to drive the gen is going to be more efficient than the velocity.
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So is there a consensus on any good all-in-ones? Something you can leave in a car and forget about as an emergency backpack? You might not always have the time to grab everything.
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>>2372823
Lol I've been using a 6000w gas generator for 10 years for power outages, no issues with tv, PC, systems etc. Use a surge protector, shill
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>>2372790
I remember when I had a huge ass aftermarket battery for my Galaxy S4 that came with its own case. That thing was amazing, I could literally get 3 days of full use out of it on a single charge, and the thing felt solid. I fuckin' hate what smartphones have become.
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>>2375911

Like I said, a dirty electrical current _can_ fuck up modern sensitive electronics, not that it will every time but go ahead and trust your expensive electronic gadgets to a cheep shit obsolete Chinese made Harbor Freight generator.
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>>2372862
fat
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>>2375290

According to Amazon:

> Batteries 28 Lithium ion batteries required.

What does that mean, it has dozens of tiny batteries?

Also, Amp hours (Ahrs) is the standard measurement of power, with a 55Ahr AGM type battery being about the size of a car battery.

> Q: What is the Amp Hour (ah) rating of the internal battery?
> A: Jackery Explorer 240 ---- battery capacity 242 Watt hours ---- equivalent to 20.2 Ah @ 12V.
> Jackery Explorer 500 ---- battery capacity 518 Watt hours ---- equivalent to 43.2 Ah @ 12V.
> Jackery Explorer 1000 --- battery capacity 1,002 Watt hours --- equivalent to 83.5 Ah @ 12V.
> Jackery Explorer 1500 --- battery capacity 1,535 Watt hours --- equivalent to 127.9 Ah @ 12V.
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>>2376124
Yes. Technically a single "battery" is a cell; the battery in this case is a 28 cell one
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>>2375314
>first worlders
I thought we were talking about the USA
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>>2376152
Yes, the top first world country
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>>2373185
Not a yuropoor but where the fuck do you think us new worlders came from, unless you're a red dot or poo or mexibro or something in which case go home.
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>>2376152
aww just look at the desperate cope
>n-no u! *sob!*
kek
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>>2376244
modern "white" Europe is what's left over when the ones with brains escaped across the ocean and the ones with balls died in the trenches.
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>>2376105
Not him, but a 02 sparky here, surge protectors protect devices from dirty power you dumb fuck.
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>>2372830
Better than 40kgs for a traditional battery
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>>2377991
lead acid batteries are the "traditional" ones
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>>2377991
lead acid is the traditional battery, lithium weighs half as much but its still too heavy and there are better options that weigh 1/10th of the weight like using standing dead wood from the forest for heat and cooking
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>>2372768
>"I Need More": The Thread
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Anybody got a good walkie talkie recommendation.
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>>2378019
What country?
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>>2378024
USA and mainly for alpine/rock ascents
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>>2377993
>the weight

Who cares?
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>>2377997
> "Look At My Titanium Spork!": The Tears
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>>2378137
yes we know you don't care about your weight Amerifat
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>>2372879
>post picture of farm
>look how boring it is!!!
Ok my turn
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>>2378162
Sorry, resolution is a bit better on this one
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>>2378165
https://www.nps.gov/search/?affiliate=nps&query=permit&sitelimit=www.nps.gov%2Fnoca
>land of the free
>needs a permit to leave the city
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>>2378168
> land of the hive dwellers
> needs a passport to leave his commieblock apartment
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>>2378197
not European,
why do Americans only think the USA ,middle east and Europe exist, do they not teach geography in-between holocaust classes?
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>>2372878
Oy there you little wanker! Did you get permission from the queen?
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>>2378210
>be colony of loicense central
>still need less loicenses then the land of the free
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>>2378203
because thinking about your shithole isn't worth anyone's time.
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>>2378216
>Ignorance is good
real classy amerimutt
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>>2378037
You're basically restricted to 2W FRS radios unless you want to get a GMRS license, iirc no test required you just pay a fee then you can use 5W. Even cheaper is an amateur radio technician license and you can get more powerful handhelds but you need to pass the exam too and others won't be able to transmit back unless they're licensed too. So even your choice on the kind of radio comes down to what you and your friends are willing to spend and what effort you want to put in. FRS you can just buy, technician amateur license is like $15 (assuming you pass the test on the first try), and iirc GMRS licenses are $75
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>>2378168
You don't though. There's millions of acres of public land that's free to use. Keep coping, europoor :)
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>>2375290
>Any recommendations?
100watt solar panel kit, you can get a cheap one at Harbor Freight (pic related)
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Are these military hand-cranked generators any good?
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>>2379955
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>>2377752
Where do you find reasonably-priced Stirlings?
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>>2378235
They do make handheld CB radios, as well.
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Are there any options for portable radios that aren't made in china?
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>>2379963
why the hell wouldn't you mount the cable on the underside?
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>>2381121
Nope
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>>2380376
>Where do you find reasonably-priced Stirlings?

You make it yourself.

>>2381131
>why the hell wouldn't you mount the cable on the underside?

It's easier to plug/unplug if it's on top but you could just turn the generator upside down if it bothers you.
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>>2377747
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>>2381121
You can get russian sdr one, malachite or something like that but they're not that cheap.
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Gonna go camping next week and planning on catching some short-wave

Also has AM/FM, AIR, WX, etc. Love this thing to death. Its fairly small too so it backpacks well.
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>>2372830

That lithium battery is just under 10kg for 100Ah but I’d use two and put them plus the inverter and other components in a small modified weather proof ActionPacker.
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>>2372817
Or, alternatively, bring a 20k powerbank and you'll have something that actually works for one-third of the weight and a tenth of the price
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>>2384825
$20000 is a lot to spend on a mere powerbank
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>>2384825
>20k

I suggested battery power packs up-thread but if you’re looking to get 20k watts you’re going to need a fuck huge generator.
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>>2381121
Tecsuns are very good radios, just because its Chinese doesn't make it bad
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>>2379079

Put together your own power pack;

>>2372811
>>2384505
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>>2384883
We usually take one of these hiking. One of us pushes it and the other pulls with a rope. We use it to power our fridge, lighting and sound system.
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>>2387079
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>>2372768
>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B095HD91WM/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_dl_5F9GHZCS8RHQTM14427G

Can the hand-crank, solar panel and/or USB charging port be used to recharge three 18650 lithium AA batteries?
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>>2372894
Unimog has entered the chat
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>>2387712
Unimog because it universally mogs shart trucks
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>>2372815

Build your own powerpack
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>>2387748
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>>2387749
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any cheap and small powerbank like this?
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>>2388015
I had and gave away. Junk. Takes like 24 hours of sunlight to charge battery, so 3+ days, and even plugged in it took hours.

I now use a cordless power tool battery with a USB adapter. Weighs a little more but much higher capacity and it’s dead nuts reliable.

Charge my phone and zoleo.
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>>2388015

I’d suggest one of these smartphone battery cases >>2372790 plus an 18650 AA lithium battery pack, both of which are rechargeable and unless you’re a phone addict, ought to last long enough for a weekend camping trip.
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>>2381121
Here: https://www.soundmaster.de/produkte/radios/186/dab/ukw-digitalradio-mit-eingebautem-li-io-akku?c=51
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>>2372823
Don't most modern electronics have electric al regulation systems that prevent these issues?

Most devices these days use DC, so you are just going to end up rectifying the current anyway.
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>>2388199
18650 swappable charger is the best way to go. You can carry as many batteries as you think the outing will need. Saving weight if you wanna be autismo. Buy a 18650 head lamp so you can just swap batteries in an emergency instead of wasting energy charging it via USB. I can then carry a simple light weight solar panel if I think necessary for longer trips.
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>>2388339

Someone up-thread said a dirty electrical signal wasn’t a concern and you’re free to risk your expensive electronics if you like but why take the chance? All the more so as the old style generating head type generators are big, bulky, heavy and especially, loud as fuck.

As I mentioned, I got this one >>2372822 for $550 and its essentially the same as a Honda or Yamaha and if you need more power, they make larger alternator type generators that are safe, convenient, quiet and more easily portable then the old school types you see at construction sites.
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>>2388631

There are also dual-fuel models available, that can run off gasoline or propane.
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>>2388015
If you're going on a long trip and need a way to recharge the battery, use a lightweight foldable solar panel like pic attached + battery pack of your choice. It will do the job, that gay little solar panel won't.
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>>2388809
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>>2372884
>picture
>>2372885
>drawing
Huh
>>2372879
>picture of a farm, what do you expect
>>2372952
>picture of actual nature
urinepeons are not doing too good here
>>2388809
the little ones do work, but they require micromanagement. helped during a remote fire camp tho
but I did immediately after buy what you posted but by Anker. more stable, less autistic, you can angle it slightly different so as the sun moves it still hits atleast one
and can hang on pack or tent, like you said
Aye
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>>2372768
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of /out/?
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>>2390278

I know right? They're not true campers.
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>>2390460
yes
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>>2390278
It’s just an extended first aid kit. Nobody needs electronics, but it gets packed “just in case”.
The only thing that defeats an /out/ experience is a vehicle.
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>>2390510
My phone on battery saver will last like 2 weeks. It'll last months when it's off. Doesn't sound like I need a fuckin portable radio/solar/battery thing adding to my pack weight
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>>2390510
>The only thing that defeats an /out/ experience is a vehicle.

Despite the claims here that posters are hiking up Mt.Everest with a titanium spork, the overwhelming majority of camping being done is “car camping”, so why not be comfortable?
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>>2372797
You realize solar panels create DC in the first place and the reason you DC->AC->DC is because you are retarded? You don't need any inverter in tbe first place.
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>>2390745

You realize that not every electrical appliance runs on DC and that the power pack can also run DC as well as AC appliances and thus, it was you who was the retard all along?
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>>2390947
>lithium battery
this is DC
what AC appliance are you going to power with that AGM battery?

And no, I guarantee I know more about this than you.
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>what AC appliance are you going to power with that AGM battery?
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>>2372768
Get yourself a compressor and generator. Even small ones.
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>>2372797
>>2372805
>>2375290
>>2387748
>>2387749
>>2387752
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>>2372783
This. The highest tech electronics you need is a flashlight. Even that isn't really necessary. Only europoors and east coasters take a (((cellphone))) innawoods
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>>2390951
I love the cut of your jib you autistic bastard but you're trying to debate a moron. You're sadly in the wrong for sinking to their level.
For /out/ If it takes more than an AAA it is reddlt tier ultra gay.
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>>2372768
>Discuss electronic tools for camping & survival innawoods.
Most important one to get is an emergency locator beacon and a subscription to a rescue coordinator. I like the Garmin inreach that has the GPS maps on it too, since you can also use it to navigate in an emergency without calling for SAR.

When shit goes sideways, you want a button you can press that will summon emergency services to your rescue, no matter where you are on the planet earth (minus down a cave or in a hole).
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>>2393439
>sponsored by Garmin
Don't get me wrong, I like your product but if it comes to the point you have to trigger a civilian beacon you are already past the point of fucking up beyond rescue. A military beacon gets Blackhawks, a civilian beacon gets a claims adjuster screwing you out of burial money.
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>>2393502
How do calls for civilian rescues get through to RCC's? PJ's are getting civilian rescues pretty frequently in austere areas, I have to assume they have a GPS capable device.
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>>2393572
It depends where you are. It's been awhile since I've looked up the statistics but last I checked falls and avalanch related deaths dwarfed exposure (lost without proper gear) deaths.

Different areas have different safety precautions. Parks like Mount Baker have forest rangers that patrol the mountain for problems. Smaller parks, like in Georgia they have rescue volunteers.

If you're somewhere in Alaska you basically need a satellite phone.

Don't get me wrong, rescue beacons save lives, but your best bet is to go with a group of experienced people who know how to dig an avalanch trench and have avalanch beacons.

Most people here don't need a beacon. Almost all trails on the east coast us have cellphone coverage.

No idea how Europe does it.
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>>2393421

Grizzly Adams, please. Going outdoors isn’t limited to squatting in the mud with your titanium spork and despite the claims of hiking up Mt.Everest with just a hammock, the overwhelming majority of campers here on /out/ are in fact “car camping” (if they even make it past their mom’s backyard).
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>>2393734
Interesting, I couldn't find anything on trenches, but the beacons looks cool.
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i had the idea when i was packing up for my current trip the other day that it would be really nice to have a batter operated watercooler or freezer or something so you can get constant ice cool water/ any reccs?
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>>2396573
The iceco ones are pretty nice, but it's gonna run you like 600 for it.
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>>2372878
pasta
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>>2384251
Battery only, or handcrank/solar?
I'm looking for a really light and portable handcrank/solar/battery radio for fun. Would be nice to get AM/FM/NOAA for it. Doesn't have to charge phone.
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>>2373040
ERATE
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