For discussion of entrenchment tools, small shovels, the multitool of digging equipment. Cold steel a'fixed, Hungarian flippy boys, the US market day M-1943 specials, oh my !Please post your e-tools, questions and discussions on such tools, and your general appreciation of the life such equipment provides you.Created because of a hearty interest in small, multi-use tools for /out/ activities.Previous thread; limit reached: >>2276771
love my spetznatz for /out/ stuff, but i want a trifold for gardening, my old bundeswher (2006) brokeim looking at the:FiskarsGlockSchrade "T- handle"Gerber "Gorge"or, should i just buy another NATO model?
>>2366332Holy shit, learn to take better care of your tools LARPlord.
>>2366428>just buy another NATO modelThis, love my nato one solid as fuck, had it ten years now and use it for smashing scraping ice/snow off the roads, guerilla gardening, digging the landy out of tight spots
>>2366490>tools show signs of actual use>take care of your tools>LARPlordLmao imagine being this retarded
>>2366498>I use them, reeeee, therefore I don't have to maintain them reeeeeee>etoools aren't a LARP, reeeeee
>>2366490The left and center were how I got them, tell it to the Danish and Hungarian conscripts were were issued them. Shortly after I took apart and cleaned the center shovel. The one on the right is covered in soot because I had just shoveled a fire hole with it. Other than that, it was striped cleaned and repainted not that long ago. Get a better take on life.>>2366498Right ?>>2366550Post a tool you actually own, not generic stock images. Otherwise be gone, and stop your weak attempt to derail the thread.Got a dutch e-tool pouch, doesn't fit the german trifold, but I cut a hole in the bottom and slide the longer folders into it just fine. Will post later
My coglahn shovel is over 10 years old now and works great
>>2366680How's the edge look ?
>>2367459I've never put an edge on it. I usually use a chopper or an actual bladed tool for chopping. And I don't hammer away at rocks with it either
I don't mean a cutting edge, I meant how it holds up after a decade. They seem to form a distinctive pattern of wear
I have the Cold Steel shovel and it's been really good for chopping wood and digging holes for shitting in.
>>2366332Deadass no reason to bring an e-tool anywhere. Way too much weight for the amount of use they get. If you're really so scared of using a stick to dig a hole in for poopin, just bring a trowel.
>>2369824It is a fair point, as long as people don't respond to it more than other posts.>>2369823A trowel is good, yes, for digging small holes for such activities- but some people while out do more digging than that, and a trowel is too small for that use. Extended stay. And during that, they might need to whack a few branches, which the shovel does better too.They both have a role, and even in the garden I find myself using an e-tool for most of the work since its small enough to dig smaller holes but can carry substantial amounts of dirt when I need to fill them back upand when whacking thru actual roots, which a trowel cannot do
>>2366498I scrub my tools after every use, still pristine. Learned it from contractors that did my floors.
>>2370304Interesting, show us.
>>2370304OP takes shit care of his tools and mocks anyone who actually knows how to take care of their things. He was so butthurt about getting repeatedly btfod that he made another thread and is still seething about it, obviously.
>>2373145>sages his post because afraid of confrontationYou aren't going to post your "100 year old tools" that you claim to be so proud of. Honestly doubt you have anything old enough to warrant a cleaning. Stop derailing.
anyone have esperance with the Glock E-Tool?
>>2373988If it wasn't more pricy than I could justify, I would try it out.
>>2366332Why can’t you just call it by it’s proper name instead of trying to make it sound all geeky and high-tech by call it a E-TOOL BRO!
>>2373149>posts pictures of trashed etools >makes fun of people for doing maintenance >claims etools aren't a larp and gets mad at anyone for calling them one >but but but show me your tools The lack of self awareness is incredible.
>>2366332what's the point in using an e-tool over a regular garden trowel? They're a lot heavier and seem to run the risk of breaking a lot easier (in the case of the cheap chinese ones)
>>2366332Anyone got any chinkshit recommendations for an e-tool? Had a look on some of my surplus sites and my local shop but they didn't have anything
>>2375929a US or German surplus e-tool is far superior than some shity chinese made garden trowels/tools. They make fantastic garden tool and I highly recommend them
>>2375929I use both for gardening, like I said here>>2369881no reason to get cheap chinese knock-off tools, since surplus german or whatever (see OP) folding shovels can be had for about 20ish USD and hold upI was able to show off all three shovels in OP to a girl today (:
okay lads just bought one of these, any recommended maintenance to do? Was just gonna spray some WD40 around the locking mechanism and file the saw blades
>>2377673that should be good enough it should serve you for a very long time
>>2377673I hate the germ*ns pouch because it lacks a belt loop and only works with their silly load-bearing system; it's not broken despite looking like it ismy first advice is to only use it as a storage pouch and not try to attach it to anything (unless you have that system)just make sure is clean and some light oilingmind the handle-center shaft pivot, it folds weird at first
Does anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight shovel? Seems super cheap but honestly I've have really good experiences with other hf products.
>>2377955Nevermind it looks like craphttps://youtu.be/QmJiuyn-zSo
>>2377955>ten dollars less than a real fuckin' NATO e-toolIf it was 5-10 dollars, maybe. Otherwise- why ?
>new rackholds all the shovels, ax, and suchno more leaning against the wall
>>2378830soory for the evening lighting, I was sun tanning
>>2378888For someone who doesn't camp a lot where carrying something a distance to dig with is needed is there any advantage to one of these folding ones over a regular spade?
>>2379522By regular spade do you mean a trowel? Otherwise the advantage is they fold, so the length of the head is no sticking out. If you meant a trowel, the trowel is useful for more situations, like digging a hole for restroom work or a simple hike. The e-tool is better for extended outings, where the weight is offset by the saved effort around camp.If you dig alot; e-tool.
>>2379706To me a trowel is more of a small hand tool, for example this is my spade. It looks a little shitty cause I treat it a little shitty, but had it a long time and is great for digging.
>>2379840that's an honest tool
Anyone else here tried spray painting an E-tool? It certainly doesn't last as long as the factory finish but it's a pretty fast and easy way to make it look new, and it protects all those little pits in the metal from rusting. I consider it an essential part of maintenance.
>>2377673WD40 isn't a lubricant. It can help clean joints but for lube I recommend a little bit of mineral oil or synthetic lithium grease if you want to be fancy. It really doesn't take much to get a foldy boy working smooth though, and I always keep a little dropper bottle of mineral oil in my pack to keep my knife from rusting anyway.
>>2381981>It certainly doesn't last as long as the factory finishTrue>but it's a pretty fast and easy way to make it look new, and it protects all those little pits in the metal from rustingTrue>>2381983I need to get a good mineral oil, any recommendations? I use frog lube as a final coat for my shovel heads
>>2366332Ok ok... I'm intrigued. What is a good model to get within Canada? I don't want chinkshit. Thanks in advance, folks!
>>2383487>what to get>dont want chinese>>2366332>Cold steel a'fixed, Hungarian flippy boys, the US market day M-1943Just read OP and you'll have an answer
>>2383539Can't find them brother, found the German Surplus one from that Finnish site. Not too shabby with shipping to Canaduuhhh.
>>2383581the hungarian is out right now, but here is for the other>https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/danish-m-1943-style-e-tool-surplus/67645
>>2383447Go to the pharmacy and get some food / medical grade mineral oil. That's what I use. It's also good for rubbing on the wooden handles of your tools.
>>2383585Out of the ones listed, what do you recommend, OP?
>>2383602If you don't need to fold it for storage/transport the cold steel is really nice as just a shorter shovel/larger trowelbetween the other two, the hungarian is a better chopper and the danish is a better digger>>2383598thank you, the handle is bleached.com from years in the sun
>>2381981That's what we did inna army. Scrub off any rust, repaint and give it a little oil for inspection after being in the field. Put it away looking new for next time.
>>2383609Rubbing some oil on an old wooden handle like that will really give it some new life and make it feel much nicer when you hold it.
>>2383613It's so satisfying, it's like holding a brand new E-tool every time I do it.
>>2383734Especially if you have been giving it a hard time, dragging it around the place a month digging damn 5 foot deep defensive positions and filling sandbags. It'll need a bit of love when you get home, and last a long while if it gets it. Just don't be that clown who paints over top of the rust
>>2376016There are quality differences in steel. It's an alloy whose characteristics are chosen by who makes it. You can find some old british steel from like 80 years ago that are better than any cheap shit produced lately, not just British mind you. And I mean the knife still makes a razor after you found them in a shed. Same goes for any shovels and the like. It's not just a boomer mindset to keep a tool forever, some of these are actually made of superior materials. Same goes with things like horse tack that might be around from 40 years ago handmade leather saddles etc and used hard and looked after, compared to something made new in asia. I wonder if in 2060 someone will ride a horse with a saddle with a made in taiwan 2020 sticker on it, or use their 10 dollar trowel from china that never did anything but dig a hole to poo in.
>>2366332What's the general use of a shovel when you're /out/ing ?
>>2378888What part of your body were you sun tanning?
>>2384426Kittycat tail. uwu
>>2384426all but the neck and shoulders
did a thing today
and heres after electrolysis, any ideas on how i could carve a handle if i have another complete shovel that can be used as a template?
>>2366332I love my cold steel shovel.I even prefer it over traditional shovels while digging holes in my garden.Since I live in a very rocky place, there is not a lot of "digging" so I use the pickaxe to loosen the rocks, pick the rocks with the hands, and use the cold steel shovel to dig the little dirt that acumulates inside the hole.
>>2386931Nice. I'd rcommend hitting it with some steel wool or a steel brush on a rotary tool, that'll get it in really good shape for painting or powder coating.
>>2386929>>2386931Interesting restoration !Whittle an existing handle until it fits snug, driv a wedge in the back if you can, otherwise make sure the screws are good>>2386937it is a very cute shovel
Any designs for custom T-shaped handles ?I wanna make a Market Gardener meme.
i discovered these today. they are called trapper shovels. thoughts.
>>2390044damnit forgot pic
>>2390047is okaydo you have pic ?
>>2386930for what purpose ? And do you think take a shovel to move snow is a good option
>>2395216to dig holes.There are snow shovels, yes.
>>2395216>Firepit>Latrtine hole>Post holes>Filling / leveling uneven terrain where you plan to set up your tent>Digging up big rocks>Moving or collecting gravel and stone from a riverbed (can be very handy if the river bank is too muddy and you want to build it up)
>17 grams>£20i guess it wouldn't satisfy the autism of a larper, but other than that, who needs more?
>>2398517you'd pay 20 pounds for a trowel minus the handle ?>doesnt actually have one to post a picture ofFrom what I hear on /out/, those who have bought it say its not worth it for what it is25 dollars for that tho..
>>2398519Can't you get those from aliexpress for essentially the price of the material, shipping included?
>>2399016I don't support that website, so I can't say.
>>2390044>>2390047>>2391759>>2394302Where in the sweet fuck are the pics?
>>2375205He isn’t doing any of those things and you’re a pussy for not posting your pristine 50 year old tools
I will post mine once I'm done polishing it
>>2398517I can't imagine trying to dig a 2 foot deep shithole with that thing, or a 3 foot diameter fire pit. Best use case for a small trowel I can think of would be for digging post holes, if the soil isn't too rooted.
>>2399814>not even the same person I have the 50 year old tools retard. I'd actually love for you to post a selfie so everyone can see what a 60 year old tool looks like.I haven't posted in your shit thread in weeks and obviously you're still circle jerking the same retardation. Keep chasing those windmills you pathetic retard.When you actually do some fucking maintenance on your trash etools, and admit to being a LARPY old morons I might grace you with some pics of Gan gran's farm tools and grandpappies guns.This thread, however, is trash and you're comments are hot recycled garbage.Please continue being pathetic >no bump
>>2398474>needs an etool for any of theseNgmi
>>2402453Anything can be a shovel if you're desperate, but do you wanna feel desperate or do you wanna have the right tool for the right job?Also, an E-tool can make for a good makeshift sitting stool, and you can use it as a toilet seat.
>>2402452>I'm not him but I just happened to see your response to that post and respond myselfSure.>"I haven't posted in your shit thread in weeks and obviously you're still circle jerking the same retardation."That guy isn't me. Interesting you thought so. I admit I did smile to see him post that, tho. You talk about LARP but you actually pretend to own tools, I don't think you understand the sad implications of that.
what do i dig?
>>2369823Id you are staying in an area for more than 2 nights you are supposed to dig a latrine
>>2405469That's how I see it. Otherwise it'd get real smelly real fast
>>2398519they're 5-10 dollars on ali expressprotip: pmuch everything titanium these days comes from the same smelter and the same few factories in china.for example every "titanium spoon" on the market is the exact same stamping. western brands will charge you $12 for one of those, chinks $4. >>2401077that's why this style of titanium trowel exists picrel. the one he posted is good for digging quick small holes in favorable soil. this style's a bit slower in good soil but handles rocky soil and roots plenty fine for your typical /out/ backpacking needs, which is mostly just holes to shit in anyways. titanium trowel works just fine for digging catholes for me on the west coast, where all the soil is rocky and full of roots.
if you've never actually used one the ti and aluminum trowels work better than the ubiquitous orange trowel. nobody's comparing them to e tools. an e tool weighs 2 and a half pounds, a ti trowel weighs 30 grams. >in today's episode of /out/ discovers there are different tools for different jobs.
if you actually want to shit on ti trowels and never used one before, they cut your hands up like a motherfucker and suck in cold weather. the blue one anon posted "deuce of spades" is the worst, can't use that thing without gloves unless i want my hand to get sliced open. there's only 2 designs that avoid this somewhat, but one of them is too small to be useful.
>>2406786>finally read the OP>>2406791They do look rough to use based on all the pictures I've seen and my experience handling metal
I will buy an etool. I will never use it since I don't actually go outside
>>2408157Hey, always an exception. I'm sure you can be helpful to a family member or neighbor who needs a hand; or they can use it to bury you. (:
>>2410249>carrying a rake through the woodsDo people really? You can lash together a bushcraft rake in about 10 minutes.
>>2410435I want you to look at that image real closely.>>2410249"mcleoud"s fucking suck, by the way- its more heavy than necessary
>>2378888>tools tanning in the sun
>>2369823Try being stronger, probably have a fucking ultra light titanium frying pan instead of a full size 10in cast iron skillet too...
>>2378888>>2379522>>2387777>>2408888>>2410666Wtf check all of these digitsAnon has a blessed dong, reply with “bless anons dong” or be cursed with broken e tools for the rest of your life.
>>2415724the age of the shovel has begun!
>>2415724checked and blessed anonadong
the e-tool is a ground-breaking invention
I know fixed tools are better, but is there any folding e-tool that can do as well as a cold steel?
>>2419202I think the cold steel shovel is the best for its size.Folding shovels are only for when you need to reduce the length for transport. Less movement in a shove is always better.
>>2415724You don't have to baby them, but a little cleaning after use and oil now and then is good. (:
>>2378888>>2415724I'll keep getting away with it, too.
>>2379840Nothing beats the goon spoon
Anyone use a titanium one?
>>2424726Globalists are cutting off international supply of titanium at the moment, so they are trickier to get now. Should have last year ):Titanium is only really for weight reduction in a shovel purpose, right? Have any experience with it ?
>>2366332I have one of these in my trunk (not my pic), can anyone identify? Only used it once I think when fishing to dig a hole to stick my rod in.
>>2425636Interesting. Hoe/pick combination, with a nut lock like this one >>2367478Any more pictures of the whole thing/handle ?
>>2425627Haven't had a chance to use it yet. It's suprisingly thick. akvwrp
>>2424726A chunk of titanium that size must cost a fair dime.
>>2428604it was $59.25
>>2429030That ain't bad, that's about what I paid for my USGI foldyboy + case.
i love this little thing i picked up on aliexpress hehe. fits into my back pocket, barely flexes and weighs 120g in its pouch. gonna weave a paracord handle for it :3
>>2428604thanks to embargo on the #1 titanium exporter
>>2398517Cute, I like making sandcastles at the beach too
>>2429111used a simple ringbolt hitch with half hitches. finished with a sheet bend cause honestly not sure what else to use right now and i'm lazy. it's comfy to hold and looks cute ahaha