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#433-“Cinco De Mayo” Edition

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>>2357392

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
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Talk about fishin
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>Talk about fishin
it must feel so retarded to fish in a swimsuit
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>>2360704
Nah, who gives a fuck. Melanoma looks stupid.
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bros, wanna start fishing again
haven't fished in 12 years and live right on the LI sound about 3/4 out on the island. Anything worth fishing up that I can eat? I plan to surf fish out here, is it even worth it or nah? What's a recommended reel and rod if surf fishing is worth it out here?
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Need a new mono to mono knot, Surgeons knot?
any recommendations?
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>>2360715
Depending on leader length, I usually stick with a blood knot, but you really should try several and find your sweet spot. What pound mainline to what pound leader?
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>>2360709

John Skinner is considered a surf fishing legend and is from Long Island area. He has a couple books and a bunch of free videos on youtube: bass, blues, flounder, weakfish, porgy, tog, etc. You also check out On The Water mag, has a lot of content for New England / Long Island area.
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>>2360720
about 2-3ft of 20lb leader to 20lb main
I'll check out the blood knot cheers
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>>2360728
>On The Water mag
oh this is good information
i was worried there would be nothing noteworthy cause it's a shithole, but i figured there has to be something since it's on the water
any recs for reel n rod for surf fishing
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>>2360735
>since it's on the water
i meant on the ocean
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>>2360735
Honestly just get anything because you don't what type of fishing you will be into and you will likely want to get some other gear down the line anyway. All the cheap combos at a sporting goods store will catch fish. Since there is no trees or bushes or shit to get snagged on you can fish long ass rods comfortably. For fishing bait you will at least want to be able to cast 2 ounces as 1 ounce is usually only good for the calmest of conditions. On the other hand if you just want to throw lures your typical medium heavy rod will work just fine besides giant striper plugs.
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>>2360739
yeah but i know for sure i will either be doing surf on the ocean at first, or the same on kayak in a few months
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>>2360743
If I was you and planned to start beach fishing then try kayak fishing I would get a 9"6-12ft surf rod and if enjoying get a nice shorter rod for kayak, you wont want to use a surf rod on a kayak thats for sure.
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>>2360733
Check out a few and try them yourself. Some people seem to "get" a knot or connection better than others.
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>>2360778
yeah figured that was going to be the move
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>>2360700
I still haven't caught a non-dink bass this year and it's really upsetting me.
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I did at least catch a few big bluegill but one of them may have came off a bed. Which is weird because I didn't think they'd be even close to spawning already.
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>>2360544
you sound mad
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btw to the salt anons, I think it's funny me poking at you made us all come together to talk about the differences between fresh and salt without insulting one another, that was a good convo, you guys are alright, hopefully one day I can hit the surf and catch some real fish
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>>2360836
Cute lil fella
Here is my cutest catch from today

>>2360838
based, and correct about "they seem to not know fucking shit."
I'm just a simple rock/beach angler doing what has worked for me while looking for a feed.
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>>2360833
How many fish have you caught this year though?
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>>2360715
I use a triple surgeons or seaguar knot for similar sized mono to fluoro
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>>2360837
YoU sOuNd MaD! !!! !
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loop knot fgt here who wanted to use leaders from the same line which I got spooled on my reel. Thx for curing my autism about knot strength, bought 100m of 0.46mm trilene xl smoothcast for 5€ of which i will make leaders
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>>2360541
>zoomers made fun of me saying fishing is boring...
Probably just depends where you are. I teach in North FL and most of my boys are addicted to bass fishing.
>>2360840
I usually take Fishbrain posts with a grain of salt. Never know when a bumpkin tourist swears he caught a huge gar ice fishing and posts a pike. That being said, spotted gar can get pretty far north, but I've never heard of them that far north. Could be expanding their range, I guess.
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>>2360715
I do uni-uni. The thing I figured out with leaders is to use whatever knot you can tie best. Even if a certain knot is technically stronger, it’s not worth it if the knot is bulky and fucks up casting and catches weeds and muck.
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sometimes I wonder where ded toof girl is today and what she's thinking about at night
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>>2360735
Okuma Nesika or Rockaway rod and Penn Pursuit IV 4000 or 6000 reel. depends on the size of the fish you are gonna mostly be targetting.
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>>2360979
who?
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>>2361018
our queen <3
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>>2361078
‹3
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>>2361078
>56% face
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>>2361097
> 56%
a little too generous. 50% at best.
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>>2360963
It's 50/50 in my experience, half love it and half think its cringe, boring, and for old people. We have longnose and spotted gar in Canada, mostly around Ottawa and Southern Ontario.
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>>2360963
here is actually survey data for spotted gar distribution
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sun rise in one hour and its fucking freeeeeeezing out cunts.. gotta get out there before the gooks though
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Lost 4 chatterbaits
40 Euro gone
No pike
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>>2361323
> he doesn't wade in after his snags
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>>2361189
nvm those yellow dots are from crowd sourced data and the outliers in the north east have since been scrubbed
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>>2360838
I love both fresh and salt water fishing, and all points between. I will say one thing: where I live the salt can be more consistently inhospitable, and I can fish fresh water nearly every day a year, and I sure as hell try to. Ice and lightning are the only things that will stop me, and I have learned to have pretty consistent luck year round.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/9eOmyzaEO0c?feature=share
Check out my new video
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Going to Azores and these are some of the fish available for the talking.. very excited to get on a charter, and perhaps even fish off the rocks
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>>2361456
No
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>>2361456
Ah sweet dude another femboy fishing video, I was waiting for one
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>>2361484
Nice. I've been able to catch most either trolling a bomber long a behind my board, using a 3/4 oz silver spoon, or a gotcha plug, also 3/4 to 1 oz. I even had a dolphin run with my little tunny. I knew I was into a monster, and I thought I had somehow hooked the poor bastard. I was using calming tones to see if I could get close enough to see where it was hooked, and it let go of the fish and stuck around for a while. Little shits, but clever little shits. They've helped put me on fish several times and not stolen my catch though. This was a first.
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>>2361484
Dusky grouper looks like a fucking thumper
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bros i just gotta come out and say it:
im terrible at fishing and i'm giving up
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>>2361544
it's okay if you want to give up, fishing will still be here if you want to come back some day. if you aren't relaxed and having a good time its not for u.
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>>2360700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkiX-lrLsU
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>>2361549
thanks anon, i decided to look up fishing vessels taking on inexperienced deck hands just to get out on the water with someone who knows what he's doing. this time i'll at least get paid if i dont catch anything.
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>>2360845
Nice. Spanish mackerel? You caught that fishing from rocks? What country are you in? What rig did you use?
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>>2360906
yeah you definitely mad, calm down
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>>2361078
my queen>your queen
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>>2361524
>trolling a bomber
A Bomber float or a Bomber lure?
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>>2361567
A cooler full of mullet. I'm hoping you're using them as bait and not planning on eating them.
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>>2361591
>no hips
I prefer women.
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>>2361596
They Snook and Grouper bait for Blind Pass.
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>>2361602
Where's Blind Pass? How're you gonna rig them?
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how the FUCK do u get gar
was in a creek full of them, could see them scooping air
ZERO action in 2 hours
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>>2361614
Had this problem before. I've only caught them on live bait. Brackish water using live shrimp on a cork.
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>>2361594
Bomber lure. My bad.
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>>2361614
rope lure and drop it on their head

https://youtu.be/NLFdDYG79lc
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>>2361591
>right hand cast, right hand reel
she is a genetic dead end, get that weak-ass buster shit out of here
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My fishing whip from england is almost here and I'm excited to start fishing again. Havent been since I was 10. Why dont we sell whips in the US?
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>>2361591
>no fish
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friend called me because he saw half melted pond from car window and asked if we could take my canoe and go fish, drink and camp there for few days next week
what a treat because largest open water i have seen this year was like 5x10m area not counting canal rapids where you are not allowed to fish
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>>2361323
Day 2
>had to buy offset hooks and chebu weights
>lost 4 lures for pike
>lost 2 spinners for trout
>lost about 100m 0,14 braid
>lost about 50m 0,10 braid
>one spool is almost empty
70€ gone
together with yesterday 110€
fuck fishing this is a money throwing event

i didn't even have one bite
i was in sum 15 hours fishing
nothing
not one fish
not one bite
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>>2361587
Something like that mate, I thought it was a spotted Mack
Off rocks in aus with cunji
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>>2361795
have you tried buying braincells? Might save money in the long run
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>>2361607
Cut them in 2-3 inch parts and use a knocker rig. The head is the best for Grouper and Snook
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>>2361795
Are you sure there is even the fish your are targeting in the water? Pike often just stay at certain spots.
Use topwater lures. Float + splitshot lead+ bait for trout. Or bottom lead and floating bait(power bait) + long rod(+3m), hold the rod tip up and reel in very quickly this will avoid a lot of snags.
Buy cheaper gear(with lead weights you can buy the cheapest), but it should still be serviceable, so you have to find a sweetpoint.
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>>2361847
>Are you sure there is even the fish your are targeting in the water?
should be
i caught 3 trouts last week
but this weekend nothing
my problem is that the lures get caught in stones or branches and i don't get them out
the spinners are hanging in trees because i cast them too wide
>topwater to avoid this
i am not sure if our pikes like topwater baits
but i will try it
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>>2361850
>i am not sure if our pikes like topwater baits
Why wouldn't they
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Went on a company "team building" fishing trip out of Port Canaveral FL. Caught 4 roughly same size as picrel. Wasn't able to keep any because out of season. Was alot of fun though. Some people got some keepers.
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>>2361882
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>>2361882
What kind of fish is that and why >>2361886 you hang them on the board?

Only do freshwater fishing.
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>>2361896
Red Snapper. Regulations, the season doesn't open till July.

Just to show off the catch before getting filleted.
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>>2361882
sea fishes are really cool
congrats
but i wonder how fishing can be helpful to team building
don't you compete with each others even more because everyone want to catch the bigger fish?
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>>2361899
Thanks anon.

True I think it was an excuse to go fishing on a Friday instead of working. The "team building" thinking is you are all stuck on a boat 15 miles from shore and have to bs with eachother and have fun fishing. Was great for me since Friday was my 3rd week at the company so got to meet and talk with alot of people I haven't worked with yet.
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>>2361886
what a gnarly display of fish hanging on spikes from their eye
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>>2361912
They have been dead for hours. 2 hour ride back to the port.
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>>2361922
Dunno. Why keep them like that and not just leave them in some cool closed container? They go bad faster and there might be flys, maybe even laying eggs.
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>>2361924
You should stop guy, you sound like an idiot.
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>>2361924
They were there for 5 minutes for pictures then cleaned and filleted.
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>>2361886
how do they keep the birds away?
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>>2361932
Not sure there were no birds though. Did have a pelican ganking the small fish thrown back at the last spot we fished.
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>>2361932
They boat I took in the Keys you had to watchout for these fuckers at the cleaning station. Tarpon and a lot of sharks standing by.
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>>2361926
I am not that guy but it astonishes me the garbage fish harvesting skills people have and then they have the audacity to complain that the fish tastes bad. Is this the fish dead ? Then it should bled, gutted, and on ice.
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>>2361943
Those fish were kept on ice the whole time. Shit the 2 Mahi Mahi were cleaned and cooked at the restaurant next to the dock.
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>>2361724
>weak-ass buster shit
What does this mean?
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>>2361829
Nice. Good Luck!
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>>2360700
>Went from being an awkward introverted autist making lures in the garage of his dinky house with only his dog for company to an extroverted family man with a popular YouTube channel and a successful specialty business

I can no longer relate to him
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>>2361912
agreed
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>>2361943
If a fish has been on ice for hours then hanging them up for 5 minutes for a photo op isn't going to hurt anything. You people are just trying to flex on randos on the internet to make yourselves feel better but you just come off as a pompous ass.
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>>2361966
idk he's still awkward and he knows it too
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>>2361970
Yeah I don't get it. Just wanted to post my fishing trip. Life in the ocean is savage, brutal, and swift for most fish. If you aren't hanging by an eyeball because some boomer or retard like me hooked you then you are torn to shreds or swallowed whole by a bigger fish.
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>>2361970
You don't know me bro. I don't go on charter boats because its a total meat factory and they don't give a shit about the fish. Lots of places will forcibly gaff whatever's legal on the side of the boat even if you wanted to release it. They then throw them in giant box to suffocate and stew in their own crap all day. Then you get some mate or dock worker fileting them at a thousand miles per hour wasting meat on the carcass and leaving nasty bloodlines on the filets. No thanks.
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>>2362014
Fish don't give a shit about fish. It is a free for all in the ocean. Who gives a shit if some fish die in ice so they are dinner.

You have a simple solution so you can stay on your pedstal. Don't go on charter boats. I did and don't care had a great time.
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>>2362016
yeah the pedestal of:

1. Selective harvest
2. Not wasting meat.
3. Eating food that actually tastes good.
4. Not starting bubba ass myths about fish because they are to dumb to properly handle meat.
5. Not killing shit for fun.
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hey bros
I want to start fishing (never done it before)
I copped myself a telescopic 2.1m rod 7/20gr
>see pic
I live in britanny france and people have told me there are some bass and mullet near me. would this work for them?
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>>2362025
should be fine for sea fishing yeah, might be a bit on the light side for those type of lures but i reckon you can catch a fish with it. Might take a bit, but that only makes the first one even sweeter
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>>2362028
should I keep the swivel? some redditors told me to attach the spinner directly to the line
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>>2362028
also should I stay by the shore and cast into the estuaire or go out on kayak?
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Caught my first rainbow trout! They were stocked trout but man it was fun. Nobodys been fishing them at all. I was just using worms off the bottom and man I was slaying trout. I only landed two on the shore. I hooked into five other that fought like hell, jumped out of the water, and spat out my hook! These things are so fucking angry. This one bit my finger while I was unhooking him and cut me clean open! I wasn't even sticking my finger in his mouth, he went out of his way to go and bite me haha. I don't keep none of these fish, I just like catching them. But I hear they taste good.

I can only imagine what a proper river bred trout must fight like. These fish are pissed
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The other trout I managed to net. Every other one today got off the hook at the exact second the net went under him haha. It's so fucking hard to hold these things.
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>>2362022
Why are you acting like he went out on a Japanese fishing vessel that dredged the sea floor for every single living thing with a 20 mile long net? He went out on a charter, his company paid the people, and that money in the long run makes it way down to supporting fisheries.

They caught fish, put it on ice, and then snapped photos of their catches on the dock with everyone smiling and happy. It's called marketing, and every charter does this.
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>>2362022
Oh boy we got a live one here. Jesus Christ get off your high horse you smug asshole. You come across as someone who sniffs their farts. I have shorefished and taken charters here in FL for years and have never killed anything for fun. I just fish and eat what the state tells me I can keep.

Suck a ball sack not sure why you are even on a fucking fishing thread.
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>>2362039

Why are you so defensive if you haven't done anything wrong lmao ? Some anons pointed out the killboard was metal and stupid and their intuition is historically accurate when you look at what has been killed just to be the advertisement for Capt Ass's Charter.
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>>2362041
The fish were already dead and going to be filleted. Stop pretending you are better because you "selectively harvest" or whatever bullshit mental gymnastics you need to make yourself feel better. They are fucking fish. If fish could scream nobody would live near the ocean.
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>>2361724
bait fishing mustard rice, stay elitist faggot
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>>2361943
>autistic screeching
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>>2362041
Ya got city hands, Hooper
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>>2362022
here we go
>implying
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>>2362047
The topic keeps getting changed every other post so I am not even sure what is being argued at this point. But here is a little pro tip, the slime coat, the blood, and the organs all make meat taste bad. So if you don't have a live well, just stick their head in a bucket of water and bleed them.
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>>2362047
this is a retard take and you should feel embarrassed
you will be a better fisherman when you learn to respect the fish
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I don't know wtf is going on in this thread. I don't keep fish I catch. Very very very infrequently I'll catch a few bass and fry them up. I believe in my states DNR. They have very well informed and well enforced fishing laws. People, for the most part, respect those fishing laws in my state. I know this can't be true everywhere. But live and let live. Just because I like catching them and letting them swim away doesn't mean I need to bully somebody to taking home some free dinner. The only time I get pissed is when the spics fillet the catfish right there on the bank and leave the whole rotting carcass on the trail. Fuck you whoever does that. But just a normal every day harvest fisherman? Who actually cares?
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>>2362059
I like fishing with catch-and-releasers. occasionally I will yoink a fish for dinner from a buddy.

For me its pretty simple -
>catch a keeper
>put a spike in its brain within 30 seconds of landing
>bleed and gut INTO the water
>go home leaving no trace
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>>2362059
The thing you have to understand is that saltwater fishing still has a commercial element that has long been banned in hunting and freshwater fishing. Currently on a lot of the regulations boards the commercial interests is stacked against recreational angler interests and often at the expense of the fishery as well.
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>>2362056
I was on a charter boat I have no control over that when 40+ people are on a boat fishing. The 4 red snapper I caught was out of season and tossed overboard anyway. The rest were filleted an eaten I imagine. I know the mahi mahi was because I had that with a dozen oysters at the restaurant next to the dock. It was good and fresh. No need to bleed it, straight to the ice was fine.
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>>2362087
40 fucking people on a charter boat? rather stay home cunt
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>>2362057
I respect fish but let's be honest, they are straight up killers who eat anything they can tear to pieces or swallow whole.

Holy shit I can't believe the amount of salt I am getting for posting a damn picture of dead fish in a fishing thread.
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>>2362088
It was free and I got paid for the day. You stay home cunt.
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>>2362091
struggling to see the correlation between how fish treat each other and how we treat them.
I've got no problem with the dead fish pictures.
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>>2362095
I treat them by tossing them back if I can't eat them. Simple as.
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I had fun on the charter and I understand some posters have problems with charters. I get it, at the same time it was good fun and people took fish home to eat. My only regret is I didn't have any fish to take home.
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>>2362059
A good amount of fish that get released die anyway.
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>>2362103
What are you doing to the fish retard
you sound like a gook
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>>2362104
Yeah man a hook through the mouth with a bard and then dragged through the water to get a selfie wirh some onion eating soiboi and released means the fish survive
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>>2362031
If you have a kayak, definitely use it, but first get a good feel fighting a fish from shore, then do some field testing of the kayak. First and foremost, deliberately flip it to not only see what your tipping point is. Then, try to right it and get back in. You need to know worst case scenario tactics, because bad stuff can and will happen. The more prepared you are, the better. I would also remove the swivel too, but only because it will change the action of the lure and likely keep fish from striking. Good luck and stay positive. It may take some time to figure out the fishery. If you can, talk to some people who also fish the areas you plan to fish.
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>>2362107
Mate you sound like an absolute cunt
if you are you not able to remove a hook without injuring the fish further I dont think you should be fishing you pathetic onions retard
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>>2362113
You are a fucking retard. Are you Australian? Most fish released die, simple as. Doesn’t matter how you remove the hook you cunt.
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>>2362107
I'm on your side about the charter fishing thing, but dude, people work hard to keep sustainable fisheries, and know many techniques and best practices to keep fish alive and healthy. Many species have tagging programs that have proven with great success that catch and release doesn't kill a properly cared for fish. It sucks that people can be assholes, but please don't shit on those of us who have put in great amounts of time learning to keep fish alive and healthy to catch again. I even have bass I have named, like a local 6 lb largemouth bass with a black patches on her body. Weird looking, but cool. I have caught and tracked her growth for years now. I call her Patches.
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>>2362103
>>2362107
>>2362118
revive the fish a little bit in the water until he's ready to go. fish like trout can't be out of the water nearly as long as a something like a sunfish. a catfish evolved in brackish water and can survive out of the water a little longer, but make sure you take longer to wake him back up if you're taking a long time to measure him or weigh him. a damn gar's a dinosaur and you can leave it on the bank for two or three hours in the beatin sun and he'll be alright. if you gut hook a fish don't rip him up trying to get it out, cut the line at his mouth, and the hook will rust out. fish accidentally swallow bits of plastic and metal all the time. the enzymes on the inside of their esophagus will dissolve that hook in a couple days. education on fish releasing is important. I fished two small farmers ponds as a boy growing up and we had sole rights to it. my dad taught me to catch and release and I caught countless, countless fish out of that pond of the years that I'd caught years prior. I caught fish I gut hook that survived. I've caught fish out of the river and fish out of public ponds that have scars in their jaw. saying what you're saying is just mouth open retarded
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>>2362118
Its obvious your lack of skill and respect for the fish is the reason they die when you release them you retarded cunt
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>>2362120
>please don't shit on those of us who have put in great amounts of time learning to keep fish alive and healthy to catch again
And unfortunately this extra care we give is useless when there is cunts like that saying "oh well its gonna die anyway!!"
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>>2362029
swivel is fine, I use them all the time and catch lots of fish.
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>>2362120
I am not shitting on anyone, I am getting shit on for charter fishing and some weird shit about catch and release.

All you faggots hold no moral high ground. You are jamming a sharp barbed piece of metal though a fishes fucking lip. Yeah it will be just fine after that.
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>>2362118
> most fish released die
where do you get this bullshit info?
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>>2362132
>sharp barbed piece of metal though a fishes fucking lip
fish are not as pussy as you fucking retard
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>>2362132
this the type of cunt stepping on fish to remove the hook
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>>2362133
https://www.slo-fishing.si/fishing-for-beginners/556-what-percent-of-catch-and-release-fish-die

You can google it. You really think hooking a fish doesn't fuck it up?
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>>2362142
maybe for inexperienced fishermen.
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>>2362144
Well then teach me ole wise one how does a metal hook not fuck up a fish?
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You guys are a serious bunch of whiney faggots. I am so glad I have no need to deal with you fucks irl.
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>>2362145
why do you even fish if you cant safely release a fish you retard
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>>2362149
Because I can, doesn't mean the fish will survive numbnuts.
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Yeah i got a barbed hook through the mouth but some reddit retard said it shouldn't bother me bro lol just swim nigga forget the hook in the mouth nigger.
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fuck it why even release fish if they just gonna die!!
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>>2362145
you choose the right hooks for each job. you can even use barbless. if you are choosing the right hook, you get a low damage lip hook 99% of the time. accidents do occasionally still happen, but you can limit them. certain types of fishing is more dangerous to the fish though, like pulling fish up from really deep where the pressure change harms them. most people. other than keeping fish out of the water for too long, which is easy to avoid, most fish are perfectly hardy. I only catch and release for freshwater, and rarely have an issue. the lip is the toughest part of a fish, and most species don't even bleed from the lip.
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>>2362142
>>2362118

>80 to 98% survival rate
>most fish die when released
Even your own linked article disagrees with you dipshit.
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>>2362168
jesus christ what a fucking idiot
I'm glad one of us checked this faggots link
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>>2362049
>bait fishing mustard rice
I don't know what that means but I don't fish bait and I will stay elitist.
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hoping to go out fishing this monday. weather should be good, my other half and i are going kayaking, and im bringing 3 set ups. one frog stick, a little bass jig to chase blowups, and my hyper finesse rod because micro jerkbaits are super fun.
>>2362168
i assumed it was bait
>>2362169
>nice
>>2362064
>>2362059
same. if i do keep anything its usually panfish because its easy to get enough moderate size sunfish to make a few sammiches, they reproduce faster, and have less chance for bioaccumulation so i dont have to worry so much about how polluted a waterway is. there are certainly still places i'd think twice about eating -anything- from, though.
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>>2362201
I don't know why I always thought you were exclusively a fly fisherman. Hope you catch something fun. Getting towed a bit is always a good time.
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>>2362205
yeah nah im not above bait. fly fishing from a kayak is just hard because fly line tangles on anything it can and i have a hard time bombing casts because waving my arms around can make the kayak turn, and i am far from above bait, but fly fishing is the fun way
>pic related, an old ass pic of my multi-circle-hook rig catching a bunch of bait; dink croakers that went out as live bait on a 5/0 circle hook
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I'm left handed and cast left landed with a right handed reel.. someone explain why the hell I would want to cast left landed then switch my hands to reel left landed?
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>>2362103
You realize fish release mortality studies are based on macro level looks at the entire fishing population right ? In freshwater fishing people catch the same fish so many times they get names and are well known...if your fish isn't bleeding and you keep it in the water it will almost certainly live.
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Controlled studies have shown that most fish released after hook-and-line capture, survive. Researchers working in Boca Grande Pass tagged 27 tarpon with sonic transmitters and found that 26 of these hook-and-line-caught fish survived. The one fish that died had been lifted from the water for a prerelease photograph. Scientists repeatedly caught bonefish held in a large pond in the Florida Keys and found that 96% survived capture. A few of the bonefish that ultimately died had been caught five to ten times each, which suggests that bonefish hooked and released in the wild probably have an even higher survival rate. Angler-caught snook held in large net-pens throughout Florida had a 98% survival rate. Most of the snook that died were caught with live bait, consistent with studies showing that fish caught with lures generally survive. Spotted seatrout caught in Tampa Bay had a 95% survival rate. Hook position affected survival rates; trout hooked in the gills or gut had lower survival rates than those hooked in the mouth. Redfish survival rates range from 84% in Georgia waters to 96% in Texas waters. Like seatrout, hook position affected survival rates; more than 50% of the throat or gut hooked fish died. These studies demonstrate that catch-and-release-fishing works-most fish that are released survive. By following a few simple guidelines, anglers can maximize survival rates.
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>>2362221
I'd like to think even a bleeding fish has a good chance at survival provided it was not hooked deep or through the gut or some shit. regardless I'm going to do my best to return that fish with as little harm possible.
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>>2360700
Just did a guide repair.
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>>2362103
>A good amount of fish that get released die anyway.
Maybe the ones YOU release do.
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Appreciate you sensible fisherman coming and shutting that faggot up with facts
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>>2362210
Catching three fish at the same time is always fun. Did you catch anything using them as bait?
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>>2362148
The fuck is that? Some sort of sex toy?
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>>2362228
>>2362168
there's not even evidence that barbed is any worse than barb-less
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241729858_Barbed_Hook_Restrictions_in_Catch-and-Release_Trout_Fisheries_A_Social_Issue
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>>2362250
looks like a vagina with a set of balls, sir
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>>2362252
the classic troon-shroom
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>>2362032
Nice one, mate.
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Aftermath of Day 2:
>caught a tick
What a beautiful fishing weekend it was
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pretty lousey weekend for me too, caught a bunch but no dinner.
at least this guy was pretty
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why do chatterbaits never work?
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Asian here, I keep and eat all the fish I caught except if it's finger sized. Catch and release is only for psycho that like toying with animals, it's like hunting with tranq it's disgusting.
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>>2362349
Literally german law
Every German boomer thinks like this including our lawmakers
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>>2362352
They are right for once
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>>2362349
I'm assuming you leave the finger sized ones out of water to die also
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only 3 more weeks until pike season opens
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>>2362216
you don't. boomer fudd logic made that shit popular. your dominant hand also makes sense to be the rod power hand for fighting powerful fish like in the ocean.
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>>2362362
Nah, I don't care about the smaller ones because they are not worth it to eat. Let them die for all I care.
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>>2362250
Yes found it on the side of I4 will surveying.
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>>2362389
While*
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>>2362221
It is a little different when you pull them up from +200 of water. Even popped the swim bladder with a needle before throwing back. Anyway some of you are just salty vaginas. I had fun and hope every fiah I catch and release dies after my interaction with you faggots.
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>>2362376
kek and this is the type of person that hates catch and release
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>>2362032
The fight between stocked vs non stocked trout is night and day. Stocked trout are like reeling in a sack of potatoes, wild trout will jump and run like a freightrain.
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>>2362349
>>2362376
You didn’t need to specify that you are Asian, the rest of your post made it clear
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>>2362349
Nigger
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>>2362318
What kind of fish is that anon? Pretty cool looking
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>>2362415
crimson wrasse mate
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>>2362248
No you juat appreciate whiney faggots that bitch about how someone fishes. Fuck I even clip the barbs on my hook when I shore fish. Yet some how I am a bad guy for going on a charter and not respecting a fucking fish.

Keep thinking the stupid dumb fish you hooked and released is all good and happy about it.

One red snapper I pulled in had two hooks in its mouth. Fish are fucking stupid.
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>>2362421
>One red snapper I pulled in had two hooks in its mouth.
That’s because retards like you think “oh well, it’ll die anyway, and fish can’t feel pain”
Both of which are retarded boomer myths
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>>2362421
cunt you the only person crying about the charter eat a fucking dick nobody cares
accept the fact you are wrong about what you said and move on pussy
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>>2362424
Oh course it feels pain. Getting a hook in the mouth then dragged up 200+ feet of water probably doesn't feel great. But it is a fucking fish.
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>>2362430
earlier you justified treating fish poorly because fish are mean to each other
stfu retard
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>>2362425
I am not wrong and I will continue to argue until I get no more (you)'s.
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>>2362431
Fish are stupid savage creatures just stating the truth. I don't treat them cruelly, but I am not going to cry about a fucking fish.
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Kinda funny how the autists only start fighting when the weather gets better
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>>2362436
Yeah we should all be fishing right now. Good weather here in central Florida today.
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>>2362032
>>2362033
You should take the trout you catch. They aren't gamefish like bass. They are quite fragile, catch&release trout there is a high chance they slowly die after. At least wet your hands before handling them.
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>>2362399
Yes, I am not a psycho that like to torture animals. Wounding animals for amusement is literally the trait of uncultured society.
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>>2362500
fitting, don't give a fuck about their life but still try to acts like you're better.
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>>2362245
based and do-it-yourself pilled
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>>2362318
beautiful catch
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>>2362392
>I'm mad at you, so I'll take it out on something innocent that you may care about.
How very...feminine of you.
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>>2361966
His wife seems pretty retarded though
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Highlight of the camping/fishing trip I did with an /out/fren. 31.5in pike.
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>>2362645
absolute fucking madman lipping a pike
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>>2362702
He has a kevlar glove on though
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>>2362103
Tell that to every black bass I catch that was bedding that had 50 hook wounds in it and still kept living. I've caught multiple bass that had gnarly scars from either birds of prey or snaggers and they lived. I've caught blind ones who were healthy 4-5 pounds and still were kicking.

Like what the fuck is this nonsense. There's certain species you handle delicately, such as salmonids, but some game fish are hardy fuckers. With trout, as long as you keep them in the net and water while unhooking, they always swim off perfectly fine....and I've caught the same trout more than once out in mountain ponds and they always were fine.
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>>2362229
Bleeding fish are easy to fix. Water coagulates their blood. Unless they're hooked deep in the gills or "tongue" (main artery is in there), the bleeding can be stopped rather quickly with just a dunk in the water.

You ever hear the (dumb ass) boomer trick of pouring coke on a fish to stop the bleeding? Yeah. It's the water that stops it, not the sugar or whatever they'll say.
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>>2362781
I think the carbonation temporarily slows their heart rate or stops it? Not sure exactly but doesn't have any positive or negative effects. I'd be interested in an actual study on livewell treatments like G-Juice or Rejuvenade. Anecdotally it seems to help but it might just be my imagination.
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>>2362781
>tfw you will never know what pouring coca cola thought your gills feels like
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What kind of trout is this?
I think it's a Rainbow but my friend argues it's either a brown, brook, or cutthroat
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>>2362924
Better image? Preferably one Where you were holding it on at side
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>>2362924
more interested in why its in your bath tub desu
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>>2362949
google "bathtub carp" common way of fish prep in the old country.
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>>2362014
Lmao, you sound like a faggot. Look at what me, my fiance, and a few of my friends caught this week in Homer. Stay mad, faggot.
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>>2362966
uh.. interesting
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https://youtu.be/3rK1OzhWV20
Check out my new video
If you like the video feel free to subscribe and leave a like
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>>2362967
uhh i am not mad ? I catch and eat fish all the time. I just never understood what is with people and big boats that they go caveman style on keeping their catch. It takes me little time to keep my fish clean...
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>>2362970
Wells catfish? Did you catch it on that lure?
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>>2362978
this faggot has a stick up his ass, borderline bait
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>>2362984

you have a wife and fishing buddies and yet you are spending your free time calling people a faggot over having an opinion over a piece of food they will never eat...you sound really mentally stable.

My only conclusion I can draw is that you came on here to brag and are upset we are not wallowing in your greatness. #1 No one cares. #2 Boat fish don't count.
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>>2362995
jesus christ you sound like such a miserable cunt you must be unbearable to be around, once again faggot nobody cares about your charter day.. maybe thats why you are so upset?

> you came on here to brag
Do you really think im bragging about the undersized fish I posted and the fact I couldnt catch dinner this weekend?? I posted that for the cunts who like to see a pretty fish.
#1 dont really care if you dont like the catch pics i post
#2 I dont boat fish at all, but why wouldnt they count?

I cannot believe I'm getting baited in a fishing bread, but go on.
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>>2362706
Rubber coated workshop gloves because fuck the slime.
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>>2362974
well made video and nice catches
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>>2362995
I just realised you might not be the charter faggot and you think I'm the charter faggot
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Does anyone have that iq bell curve meme with the fishing pole brands?
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>>2362854
so many livewell fish die, for many different reasons. I'm not even just talking about dying while in the livewell, but shortly after release. luckily a lot of tournaments don't require livewells anymore.
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What does it mean if you found a condom wrapper and a dead fish where the mexicans usually bank fish?
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>>2363103
I'm no expect but it sounds like a mexican fucked a fish
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>>2363102
I think they die from a combination of stuff. Internal injuries from a boat flip, getting banged around in a livewell during runs across the lake, the 2 minute out of water photoshoots, etc. My experience with treatments is from musky/pike fishing. A local guide has a giant livewell and will put a bleeding fish in there with G-Juice and the bleeding stops pretty quickly.
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Middle TN Chads, where do you fish at? Anyone had any luck this year on the Caney Fork?
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Rate my snell
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As a member of the palomar gang I have been recently experimenting with the springer knot for situations where the lure is too big to pass through a loop. A deckhand I know on one of the sportboats showed it to me and it's super simple with a smaller profile and has been pretty strong so far.
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is the inner diameter if bigger than your line times 2 of crimps actually important or can i just use one for all?
for example can i use a crimp with 2mm diameter for 1mm hardmono and also for 0,49 titan/steel wires?
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>>2363250
I've been using San Diego Jam and Uni knot for mono/fluoro over 40lb. I don't like how palomar seats with stiff material.
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>>2363282
>I don't like how palomar seats with stiff material.
isn't that the strong point of the palomar that you can use pliers to tighten the knot?
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>>2363282
I've always used a double SD jam for surface iron and yoyo. The thing I like about that springer though is it doesn't eat a lot of leader. I fish a short leader a lot of the time and not having to retie an fg in between stops as often is nice.
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>>2361522
lmfao
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>silver and lead has almost the same density
>they still fish with lead
out of the way poorfag
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>>2363288
Yes you can and I do, but with thick material I spend more time inspecting and trying to seat a palomar than it takes to tie the other knots.

>>2363291
I've been tying to a welded steel ring and using split rings to attach to lures it minimize reties. Unless the leader material gets chewed up or nicked it lasts a while.
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>>2363339
Yep, I do the same with either a solid ring or swivel, but when I'm shore fishing I get snagged and it usually breaks at the terminal knot. That's more what I meant.
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>get 50€ from grandma
>spend it immediatly on lures
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>>2363348
>Scams old lady out of money
>Buys lures and doesn't show us
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>>2361966
does he have any connection with /out/?
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>caught only a 3.2 pound smallmouth and a 2.3 largemouth
Not even worth posting pics. Least the smallmouth put up a good fight.....despite on 20 pound flourocarbon and a XXH rod.
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I want to get into fishing, maybe starting at a lake or river. Any advice for someone that knows fuckall?
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>>2363720
your best bet is rod and reel fishing with a hook bait or lure good luck
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>>2363722
So do I just watch youtube tutorials? Should I look for fishing classes of some sort?
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>>2363720
Ask your local fishing store. Not a big box store or chain store, an actual dedicated tackle shop. If you don't have one, look into what species of fish you have then go from there. Gear differs from species to species. I would start with lures, you may not catch anything your first time but if you just fish with bait you wont learn anything.
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>>2363726
just wait I'm sure someone will give you solid advice.
definitely learn a few knots though
if you plan on eating the fish research how to dispatch and gut them before trying
learning how to properly cast on youtube before trying will probably help avoid some issues and bad habbits
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>>2363728
Like a bass pro shop?
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>>2363733
Not him but read it again
>Not a big box store or chain store, an actual dedicated tackle shop.
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>>2363741
Thought he was referring to Walmart or big5. Fuck it I'll find something local
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>>2363742
Bass pro is both big box and a massive chain
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>>2361797
American here. Never heard of cunji before. Looked it up. Learned something. Feels good.
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>>2362113
Not that anon, but what's an "onions retard"? Is that more retarded than a regular retard?
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>>2363788
It’s a word filter on $0y
Lurk before posting
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>>2363793
>It’s a word filter on $0y
I don't know what that means. I feel like I'm lurking pretty good.
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>>2361323
>be me
>haven't fished in 5 years
>only fished using worms and my 20$ 10 year old rod
>unironically never managed to catch a fish
>decide to go big and buy a new rod and lures
>go to the nearest place to go fishing
>guy recommending me lures at the store tells me it's a terrible place to go fishing
>wellshit.jpg
>spend 6 hours at the docks on a windy day with half ounce lures that get caught in the wind
>decide fuck it I'll go to the fort where there's a 3m drop between you and the water
>there's a bunch of tourists, they all look at me weird and I don't even know if I can fish there
>put on my 10$ mepps spinner
>cast it three times and get a nice 50cm pike
>my first fish ever
>unhook and release him because I didn't bring anything to store him in
>go back to the same spot and cast a few times
>a pickerel this time
>25cm beauty
Was this beginners luck? How do you lose 4 lures like this? Why did you use the same lure 4 times?
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>>2363802
nice one mate
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Son caught his first pike this weekend, first time we went pike fishing. He was incredibly proud.

We released it
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Laying the smackdown on bluegill last night. Threw all of these in the neighbors farm pond
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>>2363871
Good job anon. My son is three and I'm trying to start him off early
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>>2363728
>>2363741
>>2363742
>>2363744
Hell no... most "tackle shops" are fucking fudd boomers who just repeat nonsesnse they've heard all their life. just order your shit online. what are you asking for advice on? a rod and reel and lures? where are you and what species will be in the waters you fish?
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>>2363720
Research the water you intend to fish, find out what species are there, ask /out/ for specific gear you might need
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>>2362349
>Asian here
That’s all you had to say. All Asians are meat fisherman.
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went to see lakeshore today and my spring grayling spot that i have never managed to visit had melted perfectly but there is such a strong wind for next 4 days that it´s impossible to fish
also illegal for a month or so but i always heard good things about that place
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I’m going fishing today.
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>>2364016
why dont they just connect those docks
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>>2363937
Obviously you buy most of your gear online but asking what is in the local lake/river and what locations are productive then buying a few lures is the fastest way to start. I told him to look up what species he has and then go from there as another option.
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Anyone ever use kaboat for fishing?
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>>2363937
>>2364046
last time i bought fishing license from a tackle shop there was a trainee who could have costed me 10 000€ fine
granted i should have known the law myself but i thought what the hell they know their stuff and won´t sell me anything illegal
it was 3 drunks who saved me from the police when they came to laugh at me for being so brave, i´m sure the whole city heard about that trainee during following weeks

got some free stuff and apology from the owner afterwards
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>>2364052
no way ur gonna write all that and not tell us what the trainee did you almost cost you a 10000 monopoly money fine
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Cut new seats for my canoe out of some inch thick hardwood. The old seats were untreated plywood with vinyl over them. These new ones are just fucking planks off a tree and they've been sanded and stained with love. Now I got my rod holders, stern light, all the leaks sealed, new seats, registration transferred to my name. This 50 year old canoe is in the best shape it's ever been and goddam I love it. Can't wait to take her out at night. Plus with the seats replaced I can actually take a friend with me this time!
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>>2364059
looks good anon
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>>2364055
there is a special prohibition on fishing when an endangered breed of salmon goes trough the canal that runs trough that city and i was not aware of that
those 3 drunken dudes told me that one dude got away with a mother salmon but they knew 2 occasions when people were caught and fined for it
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>>2364047
Never heard of anyone doing more than shooting some rivers in them, since they self-bail when they get flooded.
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>>2364059
Got a 17 footer I need to get registered(because I want to put a trolling motor on it occasionally) but it's changed who knows how many hands over the decades without signing titles over. hopefully they don't give me too much shit considering it's so old and it's just a canoe. thing is an absolute unit.
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>>2364047
I know a guy beach launches at la jolla in one to fish the kelp beds.
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>>2364059
good job but how did you attach them i don´t see any screws or bolts anywhere
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Anyone know if it is worth it to pick up a fly rod in the $500 range? What are the best brands for the money?
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>>2364067
>>2364076
I am planning to use it for saltwater fishing and island hopping, maybe bringing a rucksack and a tent with me, wdyt?
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>>2364115
No reason you couldn't fish it if properly set up, what islands do you mean though?
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>>2364097
i dont have any experience with fly rods in that range, but i do own a cheap one and a $300 one and theres a world of difference. I do however have a ~$2k light coast spins setup and its absolutely worth every penny, it fishes way better than anything ive ever had before. Not to mention plebs at the water is always mirin if they recognize it, and when they dont and they brag about their $80 reel they get absolutely btfo when i tell them my reel was $1k when i purchased it
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>>2364124
>its absolutely worth every penny
doubt
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>>2364143
im not going to entertain this argument any further than this post, but if you want a great fishing experience, having top quality gear is going to do that for you. Provided you can spare the money ofcourse, i am aware that its a lot, lot of money for a fishing setup, but some people enjoy expensive stereo, expensive TV ect. I wanted fishing great, but by all means, if you cant spare the money you can get absolutely great gear for less, no question. But, theres a difference. As it stands i throw 28g spoons further than the surfcaster guys throw whatever they are throwing, and with a lot less efford, that is quality to me
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>>2364164
I spend as much as I can for certain gear, like reels and rods. They both usually have good warranties and it’s usually a one and done thing, not to mention the functionality is usually perfect.
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>>2364164
To each their own. Some may call me a poorfag, and you may feel it's worth it, but I seriously doubt the difference in performance between my $300 setup and your $2k setup is worth $1700.
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>>2364088
I ran the screws in from underneath. I think the part of the reason the old seat rotted through the way it did was because the bolts went all the way through the board and were exposed on top. Meaning any kind of rain or water that falls on the face of the seat would just seep right into the screw holes and start rotting the wood. With the only screw holes now being on the under side, any moisture trying to find it's way to the untreated inside of the board is going to have a very hard time. I used one inch long construction screws, so that including the width of the aluminum seat flanges, the screws won't poke through the top but they'll still have their maximum amount of wood to anchor themselves into. I also know from experience those specific screws will take years and years to rust, so if I ever needed to change it I only have to reach under there with a drill and take them out easy as.

This is all without saying the seats were cut so tight that I had to give them some encouragement whacks to actually slide up into the spot they needed to be. In all honesty the seats would hold themselves there with friction, the screws just make me feel better.
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>>2364097
Yes they are worth it, some of them are 95% as good as the 1000$ rods. Do you know what technique you want to use? There are different recommendations for streamers, regular fly fishing, and god forbid e*ro n*mphing.
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>>2364168
reels and rods are easily +90% of my spendings, sure a nice braid aswell and shit like that but really rod and reel make the difference for me. And i can easily feel the difference, and its not marginal in any way. i was actually looking for a rod when i accidentally bought the Daiwa reel because i wanted the best possible reel, and i did not regret it. ive fished serveral $500 and $1000 setups to death (reel gives first every time) but this has performed beyond expectations. i used to buy above average shasimo reels but this is not even a competition, my daiwa casts way, way further with way less efford and it doesnt get tired after a year or two. Im not sure exactly what the problem has been but it just feels heavy to reel in, i think it has been the bearings getting aids. Not this time though, its just pure bliss casting and reeling back in
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>>2364219
you mentioned hardwood but unless its teak or mahogany you are well off painting it with some kind of oil atleast or both oil and a clear finish. even if it is teak or mahogany you would be doing yourself a favor, also it looks 200x better
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>>2364224
Yes, I am looking for the best 9’5wt for all around use. Mostly nymphs and dries, tho streamers would be nice too. What would you recommend? My $130 cabelas rod just broke, so I am ready to throw down more. I will pair it with the sage trout reel.
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>>2364115
It's inflatable so there will be inherent risk of popping, but Saturn makes pretty thick inflatables. If it was a cheaper model like an Intex I might say be extra careful, but really with any inflatable be careful. Kaboats can shoot rapids so I think it would be fine. How do you plan to rig it? Anchor up and fish? I used an old Intex sea eagle(I think) to fish when I couldn't afford more, and I did get some punctures. I always brought the pump with me, as well as some quick patch materials.
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>>2364164
I think Jeff Currier might disagree with you, and he's possibly the most successful fly fisherman there is. Some folks just want to use what they can get, with great success, and others buy bass boats and all the gear to catch 4 total fish.
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>>2364290
I really like my 5wt Sage Foundation, it can do small weighted streamers (mini sex dungeon), dries and nymph rigs. The other rods I've used in this bracket that I liked were the Axiom II-x and the T&T Zone. Another option is Edge Rods, they use an uncoated NFC blank and high-end components which would make them very light. I haven't used an NFC fly rod but their conventional rods are excellent, the next 8wt I buy will be from them. If you haven't bought the reel yet, consider going with something less expensive and putting more into the rod and line.
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Going to be cleaning spinning reel for the first time. My cleaning kit came with both oil and grease. Which should be used on what parts?
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>>2364321
yeah i dont know who that is, and i dont actually care either, my argument is the same. Regardless of how great a fisherman he is or was, he would have had a better experience with better gear. Im not arguing that it catches more fish (which is almost certaintly does not), its just a better experience all around.

Its better than a string on a stick, ill give you that much, if you say your $200 setup can match it im not gonna argue with you.
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>have you been ice fishing before?
>IT'S FUCKING EXHILARATING
am I missing out?
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>>2364059
nice
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>>2360700
I hate fishing but I love fish. I live off the Columbia in washington. Please give me some basic tackle/drag weight/ fishing tips so I can spend the least amount if time fishing
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>>2364325
LOL, I've actually used string on a stick. I figured I should try going full clandestine for the heck of it, and made everything including some flies by hand. Only hooks and line were not handmade, but I'm working on that now. It was janky as hell, but I caught some fish with it. Some people want to do things just to see if they can, you know? I don't want to argue either. A fellow fisherman is always someone I can appreciate, aside from dick-y ones.
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>when the bait fishermen are trying to tell lure fishermen a rod doesn't matter
Every. Damn. Time.
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>>2364492
nice one mate looks like a bit of fun
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>>2364510
i decided to make a new thread here instead
>>2364499
and yeah i was cold and soaking wet but it was very fun and delicious
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>>2364449
What's the point if you don't even want to fish
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>>2364449
>Please give me some basic tackle/drag weight/ fishing tips so I can spend the least amount if time fishing
no i don't think i will.
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>NEW!!!
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>>2364323
I use grease for all the gears and oil for the bearings. Don't open the anti-reverse...
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>>2364548
That's not you.
kinda creepy actually how many pictures of girls holding fish you have
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>>2361882

Thats not out of season thats on 13 year moratorium for US fishers so Mexico's commercial boats can sell it back to us.

It's a pretty sweet deal Obama got us in exchange for illegal migrants cutting wages and increasing the amount of debt the fed can print.
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>>2364322
Thanks! I will look into these recommendations. Do you have an experience with the orvis recon? I like their warranty, no questions asked deal.
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>>2364943
I haven't used it, but I really like how the Helios 3D casts and if its similar it would be a good choice. TFO has a similar warranty service, they shipped next day after I put in a claim. I don't buy Orvis because of industry plants and their incessant shilling of tailing gloves for over 25 years, but the rods are good. I will say be careful with Edge Rods, I looked them up on Better Business and there seems to be some issues with communications and delivery times. I'm probably going to use a custom builder with the same blanks.



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