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Why haven't you gone /out/ innadesert yet?
What, are you scared of a little heat anon?
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>>2351772
The desert is awesome
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>>2351772
Does this count
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>>2351772

I’m going this weekend. What do I bring?
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>>2353152
Water
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>>2351772
what a stupid thread. deserts are uglo.
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>>2351856
Yeah, OP is a shitposter
>>2353165
Deserts are a good time, but I agree with the first part
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>>2351840
Hey that looks familiar.
I used to live in Spanish Fork.
Is that near there?
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>>2353152
An umbrella
>SPF 50
>provides shade the entire time you’re hiking
>heat reflective, keeping you surprisingly cool
>privacy when shitting
>people IRL will be jealous, crowning you King of the Desert
>/out/ will absolutely seethe
That last point alone should be enough to bring one
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>>2351772
I used to live in Tucson.
Listened to a lot of Pink Floyd when I lived out there.
Later PF. The Division Bell, etc.
>drive west on Speedway Blvd
>turns into something else I don't remember the name of the hwy
>wind through foothills
>down a mountain pass
>suddenly opens up into this huge valley where they used to film westerns
>pull off in any of the parking spots on the side of the hwy
>hike a quarter mile into the desert
>find a huge boulder, volcano ejecta I presume
>climb up on top, maybe 20 feet off the ground
>watch the sun set, smoke a joint, listen to music
I don't miss being 19 but then I really, really do.
It seems like my requirements for entertainment have gotten more complicated, for no real reason.
>also
I should visit Tucson.
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>>2353175
Nah this is Smith Rock State Park in Oregon
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>>2353185
own it, use that parasol, dress in airy feminine clothing and call yourself "Sandtrap"
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>>2353185
Anyone who poopoos the umbrella has never been in a desert, and possibly has never been outside on a hot, sunny day.
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>>2351772
Are there any bugs? Like gnats or squitos?
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>>2353420
next to none of those fuckers. deserts get all the cool insects without having all the shitty ones. just gotta check the shoes for scorpions in the morning is all
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I'm out here, fuck with me.
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>>2353446
Noo you are out there
Here you are not
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I've been reading Edward Abbey this week and I'd really like to take a desert hike.
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>>2353420
I went car camping in New Mexico and it was swarming with mosquitoes. It also rained it’s ass off so I do t know what the hell was going on.
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>>2353585
>In the first place you can’t see anything from a car; you’ve got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk, better yet crawl, on hands and knees, over the sandstone and through the thornbush and cactus. When traces of blood begin to mark your trail you’ll begin to see something, maybe. Probably not.
good advice, take that desert hike and then take some more.
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>>2353684
there are lots of non desert or technically desert but still different biome places in new mexico. any place that gets snowpack will get bugs. also the height of monsoon season in the american southwest will be the time of bugs and rain
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>>2353684
>car camping
you were probably near a water source then.

Alternatively anywhere innamountains = rocky mountain climate = mosquitoes
also a lot of NM is technically semi-arid (think great plains), only a few scattered portions are true desert
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>>2354347
>>2353684
Different anon, here's a different map. Everything above a -1 is technically sub-humid climate (between 50-100% P/PET ratio), meaning during certain parts of the year it actually can have a humid climate. In the southwest this is usually from Jan-March (winter wet season/snow season) and July-September (monsoon). Outside of the cold and wet season, squitos mostly hang out in riparian areas lakes, and moderate elevation forests. Some of the lowland riparian squitos can carry west nile virus.
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Anyone know of good spots outside of Moab and Lake Powell area?
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Anybody have experience with Dark Canyon in Utah?
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>>2354366
>>2354433
why not just take a map and go see for yourself
that´s what everyone does or at least that is what i imagine anons on this board doing
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>>2353420
There are lots of gnats and mosquitoes. Especially around areas with standing water, like ponds or slow moving creeks. Ignore idiots like this >>2353444 he has no idea what he's talking about.

>>2353446
I'm out here.
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Love the desert. I think there's something ancestral about extreme climates, maybe it's reintroducing hardship to the act of living. Maybe I just like sand and snow.
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max comf
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>>2354462
I get you're being well intentioned (hopefully), but this is an outdoor enthusiast board, there's only so much you can take from a map, which is why people ask other enthusiasts. Then again I haven't been here in awhile and forgot no one here goes outside, fuck me
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>>2354523
fuck off i live in west texas desert and i dont see a single mosquito year round. just some flies at the height of monsoon, and only if it actually was a decent monsoon
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>>2354366
>Anyone know of good spots outside of Moab and Lake Powell area?
any spot outside of Moab or Lake Powell is a good spot.
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>>2351772
saved
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>>2355172
don't worry, OP saved it from someone else's post, too
>>2351771
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>>2354523
>>2354970
To add another datapoint to this retarded debate, I live in high desert in AZ and never get bothered by mosquitos but my gf gets bit by them a ton when we go out in early spring/late summer. Rest of the year isn’t an issue unless we’re near a body of water.
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I almost exclusively /out/ in the Australian desert. Never really been innawoods
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>>2355192
don't worry, here's a new pic for (You)
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I camped out at Valley of Fire state park in Nevada and it’s probably one of my top five spots. Serenely beautiful and very hot. Guys & I just crawled into holes in the boulders and played cards during the hot hours, absolute blast.

Also OP you could not be edgier with that patch, kill yourself please
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>>2355691
Nice
>Serenely beautiful and very hot. Guys
Niice
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>>2355277
I live in semi-arid high desert but almost exclusively out innawoods unless I'm going shooting or warm water fishing.
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>2355698
highly intentional, anon
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>>2351772
I’m crossing the country to Arizona and staying for a month or two. I have to work (remotely) and only get every other weekend off, but I’m pumped. It’s always been my dream to camp and maybe trip in a desert
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>2357234
learn to greentext
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2357340
how
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30,186 acres for me and the bro to enjoy in complete solitude. Got to see some tortoises and snakes too, good times.
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>>2358249
which one of the 4 corners is that
not colorado i'm guessing
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>>2358251
also this is usually a waterfall, even if a small one
first time in 15 years i've seen it be a trickle
we fucked bros
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>>2358251
It's in California actually, in the grass valley wilderness
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>>2358257
oh that was my next guess, it was either 4 corners or cali
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>>2358257
>posting semi-arid in a desert thread
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>>2355246
Backing up the fellow az fag that there can indeed be a shitload of mosquitoes in the desert. Don't bother me either though, they seem to only bite certain people. Speaking of desert bugs, these fuckers are out in force this year. Only need to walk on you to make you blister up like a burn.
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>>2359478
what dat? neat pattern
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>>2359311
Deserts can be semi-arid as well as arid, in fact most of the US's desert are actually semi-arid and not arid, and most of the southwest is actually subhumid rather than semi-arid.
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>>2359594
It's an iron cross blister beetle
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>>2351772
The Sierra Estrella mountains are beautiful. I've been looking up at them all my life and I'm planning on hiking to the peak later this year once it cools down. Anyone ever been there?
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>>2359965
is it actually a beetle? looks like hymenoptra
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>>2351772
Well there are no deserts even nearby where I live. Tundra would be the closest thing.
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>>2359744
I always thought desert = Koppen climate BWx, which always made it easy to figure out
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>>2351772
I've been thinking about the Mojave.
Some questions, if anyone's got experience there:
Do you need a vehicle with AWD? Or can you reach dispersed camping spots with a regular sedan?
How bad would it be to go in the Summer-Fall time? Is there a certain month it would be best to go?
Any particular bugs, predators, etc. to keep an eye out for?
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>>2353446
Toadstool hoodoos outside Rio Rancho?
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View from the top of Mt. Wrightson.
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>>2354970
>>2355246
ngmi
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>>2361628
oh shit, im not anon but i go out there all the time. keep an eye out for golf balls lmao. my own private driving range XD
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>>2361580
Nah mojave preserve is paved, you'll be fine
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>>2353420
Ants, angry, bitey red ones. Gotta be sure to check for those before taking a break or setting up camp.
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>>2359971
"Mountains" , lol. Those are hills.
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>>2353185
I did a desert walk and brought an umbrella and had three people ask me questions about it and one guy stopped, waited for me to approach, then told me I was “doing it right”. I was comfy as fuck. Light breeze. Umbrella. Just sippin and strollin.
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>>2362946
>blocks your umbrella
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>>2359744
Arid = desert
Semi-arid = plains
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>>2363906
>head is now so hot you get hypothermia and possibly die
>not breathable or ventilated at all
>tiny visit smaller than a baseball cap
>no shade on your shoulders or arms
>upper extremities and torso still fully exposed
>not heat reflective
Let me guess, you’re a /k/ tourist who doesn’t actually go outside?
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>>2351772
More scared of dying of dehydration. Australia is pretty rough for finding natural water even outside of the arid country. I don't think I could physically carry enough water to travel the parts of the country I'd like to (the Prince Regent, namely).
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>>2351772
This thread is making me wanna pick up my bike and go /out/ to the "kind off" desert next to my hometown, if I end up going I'll share some pics
t.spaniard
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>>2359971
Fellow Phoenix resident here. They look incredible at all angles. Quartz Peak is in my peak list.
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>here's your spring, bro
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>>2365332
>>2361561
Semi-arid desert is semi-arid precipitation regime with desert flora and not plains flora. Most of the southwest US semi-arid regions west of the continental divide are exclusively desert flora, especially when they are below 5,000ft elevation. The koppen system is usually spot on for most places in the world, except when it comes to parts of North America. Two prime examples are the Arizona Mediterranean climate (wet late summers/monsoon completely uncharacteristic of normal med climates in the koppen system) and the intermountain west semi-arid climates (BSh and BSk) which are exclusively desert flora, additionally even the arid Sonoran desert has flora that would be considered uncharacteristic of a desert according to the koppen system even though parts of the Sonoran desert are lush with flora and is perarid at the same time. Pic related is BSh.

Another example of the koppen system having cracks in it (especially in the American west) is when using the temperature isotherms, depending on which isotherm you choose to use half of Arizona's high country forests are either mediterranean (Csb and Csa), med-influenced continental (Dsb and Dsa), or humid continental (Dfb and Dfa) the classification arbitrarily changing depending on which isotherm and precipitation regime is chosen.
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>>2367055
Here's an example of some variations in classification.
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>>2367055
>Semi-arid desert is semi-arid precipitation regime with desert flora and not plains flora.
based and canadian-desertpilled
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>>2362740
Thanks
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Portions.
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why are sunsets in the desert so beautiful anons?
Is it something to do with the low humidity, or the dustiness?
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>>2367928
You really took this post >>2367533 to heart didn't you
>>2367927
>motivated you
>your rival
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>>2367934
>Noooo you can't post the same picture in two different threads
You should try going outdoors for once, it might help your mental health
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>>2367955
>I need to spam my fixation in multiple threads, I will have my obsession acknowledged !
I just got back from a night walk when I posted that, you should stop trying to give advice.
Next time you go tho leave the idol portrait at home
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>>2367958
>I just got back from a night walk when I posted that,
I see an awful lack of outdoors OC, larper

>p-p-pls stop posting anime on an anime website
Maybe it's time for you to go back to your homeboard, tourist >>>/pol/ >>>/r/eddit
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>>2367963
>I see an awful lack of outdoors OC, larper
oh my bad, pic related
>imagine larping about walking at night
You have a very insecure mind
>p-p-pls stop posting anime on an anime website
I have never once stated that on 4chan.
>brings up his obsession
It is you who needs to go back, go to your idol, to your obsession, your love for reddit
a place I have never been, but you seem familiar with
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10km round trip, Gibson Desert South.
Starting at Great Central Road up to Bitter Water Creek.
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climbed humphreys yesterday. altitude fucked me up
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>>2351772
>What, are you scared of a little heat anon?
The sun
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>>2365591
So many rocks.... Rocks fuck me up
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>>2351772
Because I hate sand. It's coarse, and rough and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
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>>2351772
There aren't any deserts in several thousand miles of me. Deserts look pretty though. One day I'll take a vacation and see the Mojave.
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>>2351830
Is this near Taos?
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>>2361861
nice LNT faggot
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I do staff transport through the desert, so I get to enjoy this scenery every week.
The pay is shit, but I think being out here kind of makes up for it, slightly.
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>>2368191
I know what you mean.
Had to start using a walking stick just to keep my balance.
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>>2369202
Looks like it, the area west of the spanish peaks just south of between ft garland and taos looks just like that

>>2369755
Shuttle to a mining site? How bad do the roads get?

>>2367967
>imagine going through all the effort of creating a black square jpg
>instead of stepping outside and taking a photo
Is it really that scary to leave the basement? You anime haters sure are funny
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>>2370212
Uh, that's actually a picture of the outside darkness? Maybe if you didn't live under a streetlight you'd know better
I do note you didn't respond to any of the actual points in that post tho- fixating on an irrelevant aside, I suppose thats the best you got
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>>2370226
>t.

>>2370212
Based and desertpilled
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>>2370262
>samefagging
Sign of a bad thread.
Never said "anime hate" by the way, not sure where that fixation came from. A projection perhaps
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>>2362946
Like a regular rain umbrella? What if you need to use your hands to scale rocks, etc, is there an umbrella that attaches to your pack?
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>>2353165
This they suck balls
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>>2370789
The pic I posted in >>2353185 is attached to my pack. The handle is in a shoulder pocket and the shaft is tied to the shoulder strap. Six Moon Designs sells a kit to use an umbrella hands free, but it’s just shock cord and line locks, and would probably be cheaper to just piece together yourself.

Umbrellas don’t work well if you need your hands. You can’t position them at the best angle, and they can move. They’re not constantly flopping around or anything, they just shift a little every now and then if you’re trying to scramble up rocks or something.

The umbrella I use is specifically made for hiking. It’s light weight and heat reflective. Six Moon Designs, HMG, Zpacks, and Euroschirm all make similar ones. The SMD, Euroschirm, and I think the Zpacks are 100% identical to the old GoLite Chrome Dome (they even used the same dimensional drawing for years). They’re just labeled differently with company logos. I’m not sure about HMG. They have one that’s unique (it’s vented) and one that looks like the rest, but it may be different. Also SMD makes one from 1.1oz fabric that’s several ounces lighter (and I’m assuming unique beyond a printed logo), but I don’t see an SPF rating.balls it’s not silver, so they’re saying it’s just for rain.
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>>2367042
better than nothing
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>>2370789
Just put it away when you need your hands. Having an umbrella most of the time is still better than having an umbrella none of the time.
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>>2353175
Southern Utah boy here. Piute County.
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>>2368154
i'm surprised there's not more aussie anons ITT, isn't 90% of the country a giant desert?
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Well I hiked through a desert to get here, does this count?
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>>2372832
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Just got back from the Grand Canyon. The desert is an amazing yet terrifying place.
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>>2368176
>longsleeves + sunhat
What's the problem again?
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>>2353444
>just gotta check the shoes for scorpions in the morning is all
Can you stuff them with clothes or something?
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>>2374551
They wouldn't know.
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>>2370799
Based brella bearer
You may have found yourself another convert
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I once spent 6 days in the Sahara with a guide LARPing as a colonist.
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>>2374729
J-jordanon is that you?
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>>2353190
comfy as fuck
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East of the Dalles, OR, yesterday
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>>2374551
You just flip and shake in the morning
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The desert is like NYC (or any large city for that matter). Wouldn't want to live there, but nice to explore once in a while.
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>>2374729
>imagine needing a guide
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>>2351772
I need to go desert birding, I was close but it wasn't solid desert. Got cool stuff like roadrunner and rufous-crowned sparrow but am missing a lot of other species.
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>>2351772
Lived in the foothills of the Superstitions for close to 20 years. Went out all the time. Finally got sick of no water and rationing and living next to people. Moved to the Ozarks and like it much more.
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>>2370212
>shuttle to a mining site? How bad do the roads get?

No, I transport nurses and patients between clinics and airstrips in this region of Western Australia
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>>2378560
To answer your question on the quality of roads, I’ll use this separate post so I’ve got enough room to comment in detail.

Great Central Road: frequented by tourists, Aboriginal community members, road trains, staff travelling between communities. Condition: pretty good. Frequently graded by contractors.
Warburton-Blackstone Rd (pictured) see mid right of map, used by road trains, some mining vehicles and some local (Aboriginal) people but closed to tourists. Condition: a bit rough.
Gunbarrel Highway: famous 4WD track, semi-popular with tourists. Most sections are closed due to ongoing COVID travel restrictions in the area. Condition: very rough with the rare small sections that cross over into existing sections of Great Central Rd near Giles.

Connie Sue Highway: even more rough than the Gunbarrel Highway. Punishing on vehicles. Currently closed to the public.

Not listed on map: Aboriginal Business Road. An unlisted, extremely restricted use road near the WA-SA border that goes south from Blackstone down to the Irlkurka Roadhouse (not listed on map, as it is beyond the area depicted).
This road is closed to all traffic except for Aboriginal Business (that is their name for ceremonial activities and funeral activities).

This road fascinates me because of the total lack of information available online. Almost no photos or videos of this region are online.
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>>2353301
What's in the hole there, pardner?
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>>2378560
>>2378572
for some reason I assumed you were american, where everyone has their own vehicles, but your explanation that you're in aus and have regular people transport makes a lot of sense
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>>2378560
>>2378572
how do I get a job out there? i'm from melbourne
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>>2351772
Hellow fellow cowboymaxxers
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>>2373090
>terrifying
The desert confuses and upsets city larper.
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Are ponchos a good option for sun protection?
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>>2380835
>is trapping heat a good idea for protecting myself from heat
Not really. Get something breathable but adequate UPF factor
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>>2380835
only if your poncho is made of cotton like a thobe.
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>>2381562
Suggestions? Why'd they wear them in Mexico and South America if they're so hot?
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Did Grand Gulch, UT, recently, was a lot fun. Had to orienteer stop certain points because nothing was marked, but it was beautiful
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>>2382890
It gets cold in the desert at night
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>>2380542
https://www.ngaanyatjarra.org.au/jobs
https://www.nghealth.org.au/jobs

These are the two main employers.

The third lesser employer is
https://www.ngaanyatjarraku.wa.gov.au/

These employers will accept expression of interest emails as well. So sending a cover letter to them outlining your experience and setting up a phone interview could result in a job offer for a position that is not yet listed on their website.
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>>2384361
Wtf you ride camels to work as well?
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>>2354633
Very scenic horsepoop anon.
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Wtf i love cacti forests now
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>>2351772
>Why haven't you gone /out/ innadesert yet?
I live in a real country.
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>>2386858
How embarrassing for you.
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>>2380645
ngmi
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>>2354621
no wonder I was getting a shit night's sleep
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>>2390468
A cot does not replace a good pad, anon. Remember this.
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bump to save quality thread
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>>2393479
good job, OP
come back from reddit ?
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>>2351772
Spent 20 years in Nevada. Deserts are fucking boring after year 1. Oh wow a shrub that looks like every other shrub. Oh look, brown...everywhere.
Yawn.
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I'm from the deserts of the north west. It is a place of extreme weather but also total bliss. Basically really hot, cold, and windy. I trespass hike on range land through hills and canyons. Sometimes a BLM spot but those are far too sanitary. I don't usually bring much with me other than cigarettes and my phone. I don't have many stories about anything particularly interesting but just an observation.
I have found a lot of abandoned children's clothing. Especially on range land along highway 34. Usually jackets, socks, and pants either near a wire fence or scattered randomly. Ive seen it to the point that it can't be an accident or kids just being stupid.
There are miles of empty land with private unmapped roads that lead to somewhere and something and idk honestly just strange.
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>>2351772

The desert looks nice and all, but has some serious downsides for /out/.

>lack of trees means you can see around you for miles and miles in every direction and unless you're driving wayyyy out to the middle of nowhere you will constantly be reminded that you are still in society.
>lack of trees = lack of shade
>dried up dirt, rocks, shrubs, cacti and the occasional lizard will be the most you see
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>>2394489
>lack of trees means you can see around you for miles and miles in every direction
you know that deserts can be mountainous and hilly terrain, right? The mojave desert is very different from the Saharan desert, for example
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>>2394489
The desert is much more than sand amigo
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>>2353301
Is that the McCullough range?
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>>2351772
>What, are you scared of a little heat anon?
Yes. I live in something akin to the mojave. No fuckin way I'm sleeping out there just to get eaten by scorpions.
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>>2351772
I hate the heat

Fuckin hate it

Plus imagine going to some wasteland
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>>2394273
>Spent 20 years in Nevada
And you didn't go outside during any of those 20 years huh.
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Chihuahuan Desert > Sonoran Desert > Great Basin Desert >>>>>>> Mojave Desert (shithole)
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>>2398116
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
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>>2398116
Name that mountain challenge
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How can we have a desert thread without any sky islands
I love sky islands
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>>2398123
>the visible moon peeking out above it all
Why is nature so beautiful, bros?
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>>2398134
Morning moon has mystified me since childhood
Blue sky evergreen trees yellow swaying grass and white moon
Now that's perfection
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>>2398123
For me, it's the chisos
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Abos, no cover to hide from them
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>>2399590
I'm more of a davis mountains man myself but I love the south rim. Do you hike the chisos this time of year?
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>>2400066
how do you get access to the nicer areas of davis?
that feels too chapparal like and less desert sky-island mountains
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>>2394281
The most underrated and interesting post ITT. Screencap for /x/
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>>2402336
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>>2402337
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>>2401735
Spoilers: he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The North West is nowhere near 34...
BLM land isn't sanitary, it's just normal undeveloped land...
I don't think that anon goes outside.
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>>2402345
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>>2402336
Cool pics anon, what shoes ?
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>>2402389
Not sure, sorry.
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>>2353190
When I went to U of A I my friends and I did the same thing. Drove west on Speedway and parked in one of the turnouts and hiked out and smoked some weed. Great memories and such an accessible, beautiful area.
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>>2402337
What are you doing to the poor lizard
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>>2404479
guess where it goes next
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Big freakin' empty
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>>2351772
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>>2353152
Water
good set of boots
long sleeve cotton shirt
light weight cargo pants
shemagh
Goggles/large sunglasses
Sun block for your nose
Light gloves as well.

When in the desert you you want to be covered head to toe to block the sun, dress in loose fitting breezy cloths,
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This thread may be started by a negative redditor with a chip on his shoulder, but it's family.
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>>2398123
80% of all sky islands in North America are in one US state (AZ), most of them (but not all) cease to be actual desert above 5-6,000 ft elevation, especially on their north facing sides and in their canyons. You could get a climate with only 7 inches of annual precipitation on the lower southern slopes of one and get a climate that gets 20-40 inches of annual precipitation (including 20-200 inches of snow) on the same mountains' mid-upper northern slopes. They are great though.
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>>2386855
where's this? looks like it could be central texas west of houston
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>>2402354
Along the river in the south yes there is. Also I do some hiking on BLM land but most on the range. It's no shock to find litter in the BLM land. But 3 miles deep in some ranchers canyon? Especially when it's pants or coats. Seems odd
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Uhhh, bros?
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someone hung a skeleton in the mineshaft so I was too afraid to go in, but apparently it's walkable for more than a thousand feet without much trouble. I was content just to find the mine at all
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>>2351772
Desert? Larp on you crazy diamond
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>>2412824
luv me red sand
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>>2351772
Snake psychology ... Lynx
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>>2369755
what happens if I get caught driving on great central/anne beadell/gunbarell etc without a permit? will I get speared? does anyone even check? I want to travel that way but the permit system is retarded
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>>2380542
>i'm from melbourne
have you ever smelt abos that live in the bush? I don't think you know what you're getting yourself into lol.
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Anyone want to see the trail to the Lost Dutchman ?

https://youtu.be/gNxsst9Vgno

Full page with info in writing found at FB/LostDutchmanTrail
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Some Jesse James holdout photos from "The Blaze"
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>>2351772
aye
>>2353185
is it worth the shame? do you guys actually do the parasol meme?
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>>2363906
>blocks your outdoor research sun runner cap sun hat
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>>2418233
That dude needs to drink more "wader"
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>>2361628
Very good.
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>>2367928
As a native southern appalachian traveling west for the first time, it struck me how little of the sky we actually see here. Tall trees and hills block out so much of the sky. Out west though I could see so much more sky and further sightlines to the horizon than I've ever seen at home. As such I noticed beautiful sunsets with rich colors.
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>>2395947
Me too. The arid areas make me feel anxious. Where I live it's 100% humidity at all times and every inch of soil is covered with grass, shrubs or very tall trees. My home is like the garden of eden compared to those dry western areas. There's a reason no one lives out there
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Why don't they just make an umbrella that you can stick on top of your head like a hat.
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>>2418664
https://zpacks.com/products/umbrella-holster
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>>2418619
>There's a reason no one lives out there
You say that like that's a bad thing
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>>2418016
>is it worth the shame?
I’m guessing from the patch you chose and your view on this particular piece of gear that you just want to fit in. That’s fine, but you really have to ask yourself if the trade off of form vs function is worth it. What’s more, do you really want to fit in with a bunch of autistic fakers? I’ve seen umbrellas go from relative obscurity (we’re talking about before Go Lite made the Chrome Dome in like 1998) to about half of the people doing long thruhikes carrying them.
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>>2418664
You’ll want to adjust the angle of the umbrella to provide the most shade, which isn’t always directly above you. The same goes for rain. Also, if you’re in an area with a lot of vegetation, you’ll move the umbrella to the side so it doesn’t brush against anything. It’s pretty much an instinct. If it does hit a branch, the umbrella rolls in your hand when it brushes against low hanging branches (it doesn’t just get snagged). If it was attached to your head you couldn’t do any of that.
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>>2362933
>hills
lol
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>>2353301
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>>2353190
Are you Ben you cockgobbling hundred year old man?
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>>2379087
I wouldn’t worry about it
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>>2384361
I think your kangaroo has autism
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>dry heat
You are like little baby
I never realized how big a difference humidity made until I left Florida for a project. 2 weeks of physical labor out West in June and some days I barely even sweat if we had a decent breeze. Crew chief said it was close to 95F or 100F but I would have sworn it was 80F. Come back to my swamp and I realize I live in a sauna. Still, I like not having to moisturize or use chapstick in the summer here.
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>>2394489
If there are no trees, humans weren't meant to live there. Simple as. I need the woods to get truly comfy while camping.
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>>2398120
Penis Mountain
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>>2398120
Florida mountains in NM?
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>>2422435
It's not the heat, it's the sun and dryness that gets to you
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>>2418233
What about his face, it’s all burnt up.
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Is pic related peak /out/ scenery?
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>>2353185
Anyone who rips on you for rocking an umbrella are the same retards that will rip on you for using treking poles. Once you use it and stop being a contrarian faggot, not you just to people in general, you discover why they are awesome
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>>2354633
Hehe horse peepee in picture.
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>>2427216
I'm someone who can appreciate the beauty of deserts, but no, not peak imo.
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>>2427258
Umbrellas work fine but I'm a fan of pic rel + baseball cap
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>>2427271
Those work great, a lot of people dont know that the best way to dress for the desert is in layers.
You want a light breathable cotton base layer, then over that you wanna wear a very loose fitting wind breaker/shall or something. The idea being you create an insulating layer between your outter clothing and your under clothing.
Block as much sun as you can from your skin, and just let the breeze blow through the insulation and keeps you cool.
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>>2428511
Based corvid conisseur
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>>2428543
*connoisseur
Fuck I'm dumb
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>>2428511
>no bathing
>shit covering fence
Irony
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>>2427259
You like looking at that, don't you.
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>>2353416
I just go in the heat and drink water. I don't care, desert heat is dry heat, it's fuckin easy.
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>>2351772
im scared of sneks
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>>2427687
Is wearing multiple layers of cotton better than wearing a single poly fishing shirt?
I've worn shirts like pic related for sun protection but it does get sweaty after a couple days
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>>2351772
>no desert to mountain bike in
;_;
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where my /great basin/ niggas at?
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>live in flatland europoor country
>dont have car
>cant use public transport to go near any cool hills to walk on
>am fat (6,1 227) and joining military is only option

its hard anon and even when I do hike which is rare due to not having the willingness to make it as a habit i struggled last time to walk 8 miles with 20lbs on my back, atleast I finished it in 3 hrs, wish training videos related to military were more popular than those shitty larping ones
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Hey my desert niggas, I’m going to AZ/UT border area, any recommended comfy spots? I have 4x4 and ground tent.
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>>2351772
Based FC OP
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>>2351772
I am the whitest man in all Christendom, so… yes, I am scared of the heat, and the meticulous glare of the sun
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>>2435484
Kill yourself
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>>2435449
>I have 4x4 and ground tent.
There's a bunch of offroading trails around moab
Also check out the area around glen canyon
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>>2435484
Buy some kind of cheap portable fan from amazon or something. You'll probably look ridiculous with the neck fan ones, but they'll probably give you enough time to find shade before you die from a heatstroke
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>>2353684
high elevation desert? we have high elevation desert in socal and we also get bugs and rain, snow sometimes too
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Desert's not for pussy's. Let's out most of this group.
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>>2437797
As opposed to bugs in a low elevation desert?
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>>2437891
Cute fox



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