Any suggestions/tips for E-tools(entrenching tools)
Don't get one.
Are they not good?
>>2276782E-tools are fine. They are heavy and cumbersome though, and for normal camping, completely unnecessary. For poop holes in the ground you'd be better off with a garden showel that is compact and weighs next to nothing. But if you know that are digging trenches or dikes for your tent in case of rain, then an e-tool would be justified. I have an old swedish army milsurp e-tool (from the 80s) in my car. It weighs a lot but is essentially undestroyable. I wouldn't go backpacking with it due to its cumbersome nature. I also have a current issue e-tool of the Finnish defence forces, made by Fiskars, and it is a lot more packable and lighter, but you lose in usability then. In the picture: on left, the Swedish milsurp E-tool and on the right, the Finnish current issue E-tool.
>>2276771Unless you need to dig foxhole just use one of those v shaped tent stakes
The current one looks like the one the US military gets, the Gerber with the plastic handle. I was never a huge fan of that one. I’ve seen ones similar to the Finnish one.I was thinking of purchasing one that was made by CRKT but I wanted to second hand opinions first.
Used to use my old NATO issued one, but the spring has given out, now I use the cold steel one
>>2276944That cold steel e-tool would look so hot with walnut stained handle.
I really like the dark green, sorry about the spring though
>>2276771I understand that the cold steel one is a popular and affordable choice.
>>2276771I only ever use mine for gorilla gardening. Which it's ideal for because it's easy to conceal going into parks/forests. >>2276793I have a Gerber E-tool and it works fine for the business, although not enough justification to get one.>Use a full size shovelJesus dude, how huge of a shit are you taking!? Ironically the kids sized shovels aren't actually that much cheaper than a folding shovel.
I’m assuming it’s pretty durable as well?
>>2277029>Use a full size shovelBy a garden shovel I meant those small things that you dig small holes with. Now that I googled it it seems that I was talking about a planting shovel. But anyways, a shovel like this was what I was telling OP to get instead. English isn't my native so I got words mixed up.
>>2277057Makes sense. I don't like the plastic ones though. I was really just making a poop joke that you set up... You might be able to find a metal-kids-shovel at a thrift store.
>>2277057Also known as a 'trowel'
>>2277063Big bois make big poops.
>>2277082I like your moxy sir
>>2277029>gorilla gardeningYou had much success? Gorilla trees popping out of the ground and little gorillas blooming in the branches?Guerrilla.>>2277057>By a garden shovel I meant those small things that you dig small holes with.So, a garden trowel.Not a fucking shovel.
>>2277096Hey English isn't his native language he used the wrong descriptor for a trowel, I already notified him above that we also call them trowels, no need to go rabid on him.
>>2277096>spell checking on 4chan>spell checking someone that's already been corrected who already admitted to not being a native English speaker Go back.
There has legit never been made an E-Tool good for 3+ uses. just use a fucking shovelhead you primate.
>>2277117There has, that doesn't make it good though.https://jacobswelloutfitters.com/products/f-a3-pouch-extension-bundle?currency=USD&variant=34921186361502&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2sqOBhCGARIsAPuPK0j3Mx0ylxdM65OSuqKTQ9-R9XTNKtf00-jP4I6carHBWBgpTiAYm6saAv0mEALw_wcB
>>2277109>who already admitted to not being a native English speakerI ain't one either and never felt that was much of a valid excuse.Shovels are big, trowels are small.Gorillas in the mist. Guerrillas...isn't even an English word.Marshall Law is a Tekken character. Martial law is a psyop to control boomers.No talent! ESL is not an excuse!
>>2277117>can dig a hole>can fill a hole>can kill a beast>you can throw it for entertainmentYou just sound creative. I bet you read instructions for everything to make sure you know how to use things like trowels If you havent been outside at night and heard a noise that made you grab your handshovel as a weapon, you havent been outside in tough enough circumstance
>>2276771>E-toolOh that's the lewd thread I heard about it.
>>2277057For this type of trowel, I've been loving my cheap "Duce of spades" knock off!
>>2277096>>2277132Well, it is one of those things that does confuse people who are talking in a foreign language. In my language there is only one word for shovel no matter the size and it could mean both trowel and a showel. Thus, the use of a "small showel". I admit that it is my bad. It has been a long time since highschool and my vocabulary has steadily decreased by every year due to not actively learning and using English. I will use the word trowel now though. >>2276944>>2277006Anyways, this thread has made me want to purchase a Soviet/Russian MPL-50 or a clone of it for autism and larping pirposes. Is the Cold Steel version as good as the product that it is copying? They claim that the original MPL-50 can be used as an axe, as a skillet, for hand to hand fighting, digging, throwing and as a measuring tool.
>>2277321I've used the Cold steel for digging; a foxhole, a couple graves, and often for garden work. It throws fun but that's just novelty. I wouldn't cook on it tho- just get a cheap dedicated mess kit. It is a comforting thing to have in hand when you are investigating something outside. If you know the length, you could measure with it (:
>>2277321Choosing rater nicely
>>2277588*chops rather nicely
>>2276771I used the one in the back to get weeds out of rubber pits, parking lot etc on Fort Hood highly recommend it for that the new ones don’t have enough mass
>>2277651The old surplus ones from the 80s-90s are pretty Gucci for car camping. Nothing says redneck like getting drunk and chopping firewood with an etool.
>>2277326Here is mine, note the clean lines and ability to hack through relatively thick rootsThis hole ended up being 4-5 feet deep, and about 4 feet wide>>2277272Interesting that you never actually posted an e-tool despite shitposting about what sort of thread this is
>>2276771It may go without saying, but wtvr...Remember to file the edge every now and then.The blade will cut through roots better if it's sharp.
>>2278228....so why are you digging a gigantic hole with an etool... I'm not mocking, I'm impressed really.
>>2278228So from what i take from this is that the cold steel spetsznaz shovel is gud? I just want it for the sake of larping and exquisite fun, i like tools with some heft and i like chopping woody stuff and digging for no reason.
Having carried one as a reservist I'm not sure why you'd want one unless you're actually going to need to dig a fighting positionIf you do need one for some reason you're better getting one with a fixed handle or simple single folder, the 3 piece NATO shovel seems to fail after a while. Digging a shell scrape with a folding spade sucks never mind a trench, I guess being under idf sucks more though.
>>2278495I had to remove a stump, so I figured while I had a two-three feet deep hole I might as well meme. Pragmatically: it was an exercise and I learned about how moisture affects holes over time (this location was too shady to keep a hole; mushrooms developed. Memery: it was mid-2016 and I wanted a civil war fox hole (;>>2278593Yeah it's good. I got a second one to have for the future in case they stop making them/inflation. It was about 20$ when I got them and they are well worth it. I'm using it still today, original one, for gardening.>>2277272>deleted post
>>2277321On eBay you can get a Russian titanium one for like 35-40 bucks. It weighs under a pound. Takes like 3 months to get to you though. Same guy makes titanium trowel heads etc with holes in them. I’m not a ultralight kind of guy but I try and keep my extras to a minimum but I won’t go out anymore without it. From poking the fire to taking a shit to potentially clubbing something to death it’s just good to have. https://www.ebay.com/itm/175041936607?hash=item28c14ffcdf:g:kc8AAOSw7Spb0vUW
>>2279011>40 dollars plus 20 dollars shippingI'd rather just get two-three cold steel shovels at that. I looked into the titanium variant in the past but it seems counter-intuitive if it's pricy
>>2278711Hahahaha, thanks anon. I like your moxy. The smaller shovels are nice for gardening but it's hard to find a sturdy mini shovel these days that isn't for kids.
>>2279011Could you post pictures of your showel? As well as specifications? What is the thickness and so on, since I am genuinely intrigued now. Also, I live in Finland so I guess it would arrive somewhat quickly. t. >>2277321
>>2276771What happened to the larp general, because that’s where this thread belongs
>>2280161>tools are LARP>people posting their use of tools outdoors is playtimeGo away
>>2280161You are the guy nobody likes at any hobby event.
>>2280171He's probably the same guy who deletes his posts>>2277272
>>2276771Cold Steel SF shovel is goat, works as shovel, machete and hatchet, after annointing it with holy water will also help you fend off the skinwalkers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOaEjJz-6jg
>>2280256A contender appearshttps://www.harborfreight.com/27-in-round-nose-mini-shovel-with-d-handle-69826.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=15023939007&campaignid=15023939007&utm_content=129512592660&adsetid=129512592660&product=69826&store=474&gclid=CjwKCAiA5t-OBhByEiwAhR-hm22hU4CU1YGH4ThTf-FJWWg4BIXX6h-P3eO-9LR0MtdvMrjgI_elfBoCWYkQAvD_BwE
>>2280260No thank you.
>>2280260Not interested. How about you post a picture of your's and maybe I will consider it. You actually have one, right ?>>2280256I've even used the flat part of the shovel as a hammer to push down some posts on rainy day
>>2280271Mine is currently a 1500 miles away. I'm on a consultation job. I actually don't have this brand, mine is a 60 year old hand-me-down. The horizontal top handle is what makes it good. Mine is the same size but wider and the handle is red. I also have a meme fold out Gerber but old woodie gets used way more.It's the size and design that make it very usable.
>>2280260Those mini shovels look like an interesting alternative, if you're just looking for a small shovel. (abou the same size, about the same weight)But those modern mini shovels are complete crap if you want them to last.Great to have in the car to get it unstuck. To have in the garden for the raised beds. Even to strap to the backpack for some innawoods light duty digging.Not if you think you're gonna chop a tree in half with a shovel.t. owner of something like that (picrel)
>>2280365I use the Gerber innawoods.The mini is strictly urban garden. Full disclosure if I'm hacking with the Gerber I'm not sober. I guerilla garden with the Gerber though. Concealable little thing.
>>2280393Is the gerber shovel of yours like the FDF issued one, pictured in >>2276793?
>>2277057>by a full size shovel i obvioualy meant this hand held 6 inch toylol thanks for the laugh anon
>>2280396It's similar to the one on the right. The handle is smaller
>>2280412Heh, yes. I was corrected about the wrong word already. But good thing that you got amused from it.
Why not become a titanium chad?
Anyone use these before? Don't care about brand a bunch of people make them. Seems like it would offer better rigidity than a garden trowel but also be heavy enough to dig small pits and things easier.
>>2282098This screams "Take a shit in the woods'
>>2276771i got the cold steel spetsnaz shovel for the memes, i actually used it to get my car unstuck from mud once. i used it to dig out under the tires and put a little texture on the top of a wooden plank for traction.
>>2282723Don't forget to oil that bitch every 6 months or so.
>>2283108I leave mine out overnight and while the edge of the shovel gets a bit orange that goes away fast the next time I use itDefinitely oil if you store it, tho
>>2283112>I'm a contrarian: the post(Yooou)Do maintenance. Kids need to learn to lube rheir toys to make them last, (c)rusty old man.
>>2283142>le reddit termsWhat? I'm this guy >>2278228I've used the tool hard- rust doesnt result in chipping or any serious damage to this tool. A trench shovel is not something you need to baby. It's surface level, not pitting. You sound insecure, post your shovel with a timestamp or I will assume you are like this guy >>2277272
>"Tools of trench warfare are delicate and should be babied. Never leave them outside because they might get wet. Keep them safe, inside, nice and dry. Maybe even get a safe for it, with moisture control."
>>2283152>Taking care of your shit is insecuritySome of my gear is almost 30 years old. Stop sucking at life: do maintenance. Rust is your enemy.
>>2283163Yeah rust is bad, on stuff that it matters. This is a cheap garden tool. I've left mine outside for about half of the 6 years I've owned it and wow it's still the same size. We aren't talking about tractor engines or bolt carriers.and my Colt is 70 years old, good conditionAnd I explicitly stated I do maintain my tools.You don't have one of these shovels, do you ?
>>2283170>Buys cheep shit>Doesn't take car of itI have tools my parents gave me. Some of my garden tools are almost 100. You suck at life. Please don't breed.
>>2283172Yes, this shovel is 20 dollars. Very good- I do own other things, you know. You are very bad at presumptions. Very bad.I've striped the paint down and recoated it last year- which, again, is a bit more than you'd expect for a 20 dollar shovel but hey that's meI note you haven't posted your's yet, is my presumption correct that you don't even have one? You sound upset about something, and are deflecting that onto me. I hope you address the root cause of your anger in a healthy matter.Show us your 100 year old tools !
I have a titanium one and when I was trying to look up what type it used i saw where it said titaniums "sheer strength" isnt as strong as steel. is that something i have to worry about with something as small as a shovel? just wanted to make sure it wasnt a meme. already have the cold steel and like it
>>2283184>alot of irrelevant wordsI notice you don't have a picture of an e-tool to share.. or your 100 year old tools. Noted.>Lol.ah it's like talking to a schoolgirlCute snek tho
>>2283188They make small shovels out of plastic, so I'm sure it would hold up to the reasonable tasks you would ask of it. The advantage to titanium is just for when you hike with it. If you keep it in the car or use in the yard, the steel is good enough.
>>2283190Embarrassing. I get it: you're a hypocrite. >Post sources reeeeeeeee >It's IMPOSSIBLE to have tools 100 years old>>2283108<--For non Reddlters.
>>2283202>is afraid to show the state of his alleged tools>they are all rusted and pitted away (if exist at all)>projects his reddit historyOkay, man. You've just made a fool of yourself here. Enjoy being you, stubborn kid
>>2283204>Don't do maintenance and buy cheap shit reeeeeEmbarrassing
>>2283108for why? any rust that builds up gets knocked off with the next use and if it gets dull it takes 30 seconds to chase the bevel with a file.
>>2283210This, like I said >>2283112He doesn't own an e-tool, I wager he is the same guy who derailed the thread earlier and deleted him postsI just took pic related- wow the edge cleaned up nicely and I didn't have to use CLP on it
>>2283220aye thats what i figured. i dont oil any of my other "normal" shovels, they all dig fine with a layer of patinaand i've only seen rust eat one shovel that lived outside in the ground and it was older than i was at the time of it's death
>>2283220>>2283228>Fuck maintenanceY'all suck at life
>>2281673Is titanium suited to shovelling? Doesn't it not oxidize or something weird or whatever it was
>>2283268This 7 year old shovel has literally been refinished. I think that counts as maintenance. Go delete more of your posts like >>2283184Sad.>>2283228Aye, patina that's the term>>2283497It's light for it's strength. That's the main appeal. Like hiking cookware
>>2283645>I don't do maintenance>But but I do maintenance>Doesn't know how the website worksYou have a mental disorder kid.Titanium is also corrosion resistant and is used in dyes. Stop giving advice: you have a room temperature IQ.
>>2283911Oh the guy who doesn't actually own anything is back. Did you take a picture yet ?>titanium is light, for hiking>"UGH YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING"Don't be this way. I also stated I do maintenance here:>>2283178and here:>>2283220maybe develop your reading comprehension.
>>2276771i have the first one of this pic.its stamped US Ames 1944, my grandpa picked it up during WW2 when he was a kid. he used it as garden shovel for his whole life.only problem is that you cant fold it anymore since there is concrete in the screw part.does anyone have a idea to get it out without destroying the steel or the aluminum nut.
>>2276771Line up three stones and put two sticks underneath
>>2283913Aluminum is lighter than titanium midwit.Anything else you want to embarrass yourself about being wrong about?>Take pictures of how to lubricate a folding shovelYes, you are the kind of person that needs a picture book to explain a task even a child could do.
>>2286147I can't remember if the threaded part is bakelite or steel but if it is steel there is a chemical solvent that removes cement from steel.
>>2286487its aluminum,if it was steel i would have used muriatic acid. since it dissolves concrete, steel to but slower than concrete. but i actually got if loose a few hours ago, i soaked it in ATF a few days ago. after 4chin remembered me of that i carefully twisted the nut with a pipe wrench and managed to slowly work it loose.
>>2286602Nice. I love reviving old tools.
>>2286483>comes back days later to cowardly reply>still no picture of 100 year old toolsNice.And I said titanium is lighter than steel. Where did I say than aluminum? little skipper- wrong again, bad reading comprehension once again
>>2287536>I don't do maintenance>But I do maintenance>Titanium is lighter nevermind about aluminum>But but show me pictures and ignore my disingenuousness>Noooooo you can't have a real life and not live for posting nonsense on /out/ like meeeeeYou got issues dude. Keep it up, I'll be back in a few days to laugh at the guy who's so proud of a rusty shovel.
>come back from afternoon of tidying up garden work>>2287768>nonsensical ramblings unrelated to what I saidNah, I don't do back and forths with crazies. You've proven you cant read and just make up fake quotes to build a big boy response on. I'm alright. Take care and get help. Maybe actually buy a tool and take care of it, I'm sure it would make you happy.Imagine playing pretend on a thread about shovels.
>>2276771Depends on what you’re using it for>backpackingPlastic or aluminum trowel purchased second hand for 1usd or just cut a digging stick.>car camping E tool that fold to a 90 if there’s any chance of snow (for getting your rig unhighcentered), or a D handle half shovel. Go for the D handle if you want somewhere to put your tp.>Canoe camping A “foresters" or "planting" half shovel, d handled. These work the most like an extra paddle in a pinch.>An alternativeA wooden handled garden hoe. When I did trail maintenance this became a quick favorite after seeing some of the senior guys gravitate toward them. Shovels are great if you need to do something with the dirt, ie fill sandbags for a trench or plop it in a wheelbarrow. If you just need to move it aside to flatten a trail, dig a drain way, or a 10" cat hole, a hoe works slick. Easy to hike with, can do delicate work or chop surface roots. Extends your vertical reach to like 12', enough to pull down widowmakers or fruit. I often day hike with one to chop out invasives and bury dog dirt.
>>2276771Unless you really gonna dig a trench, I'd like recommend a taiga. It's a machete/axe/shove all in one. Less bulky, less weight, do the job well enough. You don't need to get the original russian one, there is plenty of alternatives with fancy designs.
>>2276771i just use a romanian army shovel that i got from some wog for $5 at the market. burys my poos, makes okay trenches (the small 5cm deep ones for rain), and would be pretty gnarly if someone got bashed over the head with it, i sharpened the sides as well. i tried making one of those dakota fire holes (pic rel) and completely collapsed the tunnel, good shovel tho.
>>2276771these are fucking shit, broke one on the first try. granted i was digging a hole in the woods but still. they are shit.
>>2276944Cold steel spetsnaz replica e-tool is excellent. I can chop down small trees with that mofo.
>>2289253Show 100 year old tools or no further talk.
>>2289257>You owe me photographic proof that tool maintenance works reeeeee>I don't know the difference between an E-tool and a shovel or that aluminum is lighter than titanium but but but oiling tools, fuck that.We both know you are insincere rusty shovel boy. I could show you great grand daddy's 3030 or Grannie's Secuiteurs but you aren't worth the effort and we both know you'd just make up another story about your amazing shovel.
I bought a coldsteel SF shovel as a defense 'weapon' here in australia since legally is dodges quite a few of the laws regarding self-defence since it's a shovel.
>>2290966oi mate u got a loicense for that shovel?
>>2290966Based. I keep mine by the gatefor ready use for gardening in the front yard if I need.
I love my hand shovel.Transplanted some small trees with it yesterday.
>>2282098>Seems like it would offer better rigidity than a garden trowelLooks the exact opposite, that handle looks flimsy and seems like more trouble than its worth. Just use a garden trowel, you don't need to take a tacticool shit.
>>2297470You do realize this is a self professed larp thread right?
>>2298153Not, this is for e-tools, which are cool and fun and useful. Post your's of go away like this guy >>2287768New tool boys, pic related
>>2288751Truth.I was shocked at how effective it was.Cleared a small grove with it.Yeah, it was like two years of growth in a yard, but it was more than a lawn mower would deal with.That little shovel made short work of all of it including the saplings.>>2290966The other reason I got the shovel was as possible defense.I live in a city and the cops here frown on self defense.If I use a shovel I imagine they'd be less likely to give me shit for having a """weapon."""They'll just think I'm just some crazy boomer (GenX, though that means less and less these days).Great shovel and the best thirty bucks I spent on a cheap tool.
>>2280256I should get mine blessed.Good call.
>>2298573>rusty shovel bitch gets utterly destroyed >posts cope, still fails>still doesn't post an etoolThat's a case, not an etool. I'm embarrassed for you lady.
>>2299413thats a perversion of christs message. shame on them
>>2298698Ye, it's good for hacking through thick roots too when you are digging. Something you can't do with a trowel and is just annoying to do with a full shovel. I was removing a stump last week, used the full shovel for most but this russian shovel for the roots@2299426>regularly returns to thread desperate for (Yous)>bitches>still havent posted a single tool>in a thread about toolsWhat a sad life you must have. It's the only one you get and this is how you waste it?
>>2299708>Luke 22:36Basedfor he who gives up his sword for a ho tends the fields of he who did notbut a man who has an e-tool is both a provider and a protector
>brag about rusty shovels>get humiliated and outed as a hypocrite >continue to cry about it Free rent
@2299736>unused generic tri-fold>not even posted outsideDid you really order that on amazon because of this thread ? Guess you should keep it oiled since it hasnt touched dirt and remains inside a nice room>rent freeIndeed
>>2299463It's okay to take a hit, though I'm not convinced Jesus Christ wants you to let your family get raped and murdered.Protecting the innocent is perfectly acceptable in the eyes of God.
>still crying about getting btfod>projection>actually owns two meme shovels but more likely borrowed someone's or bought one for this thread>promised not to respond (another lie) but desperate for attention LoooolYou're unbelievably pathetic
>>2282098I honestly just have this in my kit for a basic shit trowel.
@2300352said I wouldnt reply unless you posted an e-toolwhich you didproblem is; is very new and unusedand thats funny
>>2300641That's actually quite clever
>>2282098It will fold and cut your fingers when stabbing into hard ground. It's actually a few grams heavier than a solid garden trowel. On the plus side it's more compact but I ended up switching to pic related and using the pouch from the folding one to cover the blade.
>>2301287Step 3.5 - it tilts to the side and you get shit all over the handle
>>2301362>hes never done it
>>2301359is the touch really safe ?
>>2300641why not just find a old tree?
>>2300641>americans cant squat so they sit on their folding shovel with one asscheek
>>2301778>t. Street shitter
>>2277057DO NOT get a plastic trowel like that. When i was a gardener, my boss (who had no experience gardening) gave every employee one of those Fiskars trowels to always carry around. They simply don't go into tough soil. The smallest roots stop them, and if you awkwardly try to push down with your boot, the damn thing breaks.They are completely useless for anything except putting holes in loose potting soil
>>2276771the cold steel speznaz one is by far lighter than the foldable 3 piece one.
>>2278228>is this the hole?>yes
>>2303217Yes.It was a very fine hole, too.Removed a stump, figured why not and kept digging a little meme foxhole.
>>2276771They’re good >but muh poop holes Niggers here act like Indians when they go into the woods Look at these replies they’re literal poo on the ground niggers
>>2298698>>2288751One of my favorite pieces of gear especially as a forager. Fantastic for cracking wild coconuts when I was down in Florida.
>>2276771 cool and useful for dakota fire, building small thing and make poop hole, the only thinh with what you need to be careful is not to buy the famous "2531 in 1!" that like swiss knife you use mainly one option and in really rare situation or never the othersThe second important thing if you want to make real hole is not to get some hard folding shit with really short handle this will break your fucking backMine is a old french surplus, work pretty well for 3 years now
>>2303217Based meme knower
>>2301287Until you or the shovel slips and you fall in your shit pit.
E-tool, yes !
e-tool thread is higher priority than flavor of the week topics
how bad of an idea is it to strip the paint of my e-tool so that i can use it as a skillet.
>>2309312Make sure to clean and wax/grease regularly to prevent rust, I've always thought about perhaps casting a bronze head for my e-tool for this purpose
>>2309312Considering how cheap skillets can be had now, it is more trouble than worth. You have to make sure to keep it very clean like >>2309532 saysbut then if you do have to use it as a shovel, dirt will stick to your grease, so you'll have to basically clean it off and re-coat it. Each timeProbably worth paying for a dedicated pan instead, because you wont have to play balance the egg yolk while youre cooking or worry about any dirt virusesE-tools are best kept with a light coating of dirt on them. Keeps them warm and insulated and acts as a patina against rust
>>2309312I personally like the idea of someone running around the woods, burying his shit with his kitchen ware.
>>2309926>oh no viruses.if only there where a way to prepare food and kill viruses using only fire.
Fiskars has a really damn good shovel. If it's good enough for the Finnish Defense Forces, it's good enough for anyone
>>2309947enjoy your tetanus because you want to look rugged
>>2309959>>2309949is this meme or are you guys just retarded
>>2309960Elaborate.>no you cant just have a light and cheap tray to cook in>you need to balance your food on a small shovel>with a raised center>keeping it clean before and after>much simpler
>>2309961using a thing i already have with me as a pan the %10 of the time I need a pan vs bringing and entire extra piece of gear i will only use 10% of the time
>>2309966Show your shovel, let's see if it's pan-serviceable.and are you not also using the shovel only 10% of the time, as well ?
>>2309967i like using fire pits for cooking so I started carrying and etool. just bought the one on the right cause one in the left is too heavy and i only paid $5 for it anyway. i think both could cook an egg pretty well.
>>2309971You think the cold steel shovel is too heavy ?How is the larger one lighter ?You're saying you wouldn't strip off the paint before putting it directly over a fire ?You wouldnt wash off the shovel on the right before cracking an egg on it ?
>>2309973oops image got flippedyes i would strip the paint firstof course i would clean it, why wouldn't I?
>>2309975ah okay much more sensebut that was my pointyou have to clean it before you cook, and then again after you cooksame with after you use it for any digging activityso why not just have a very light pan you can cook with without any time spent preparing italso when you strip paint you need to coat it with something to prevent rust- because you dont want rust in your meal. I've stripped the paint off that cold steel shovel and put a new paint on it. It's a nice shovel for digging partly because it has higher carbon- which also means it needs a coat of something or it will rust by moisture exposure
>>2309977i would have to clean a pan before use anyway. i carry steel wool to clean my pot anyway. also digging the fire pit prior to cooking on it will probably knock most of the rust off. im gonna try it, i can always paint it again if i dont like it. what paint did you use?
>>2309982I didnt use a paint that you should cook food on.
E-tools are the ultimate LARP accessory. Cringe AF
>>2309993name one thing that is not a LARP
>>2309993Ah it's the 100-year old tool in theory guy.>using tools is playing pretendYou've already been proven wrong, Begone.
>>2309977Season it like a carbon steel pan. I ordered my Cold steel shovel from Amazon and it didn’t come with a sheath, it was only $20 though.
>>2310019i had to get the sheath sperate.
>>2288277oh, look, someone who knows what they are talking about. sorry you are going to be completely ignored. I appreciated your post though. Thanks anon.
>>2309971Wants to put steel shovel into the fire/coals because youtube shilled him meme cooking. Enjoy dehardening your tool, retard.
>>2311055why would a shovel be hardened?
so i stripped the paint, reshaped and refinished the handle. then i swelled the dandle in soapy water for a tighter fit.
>>2311258Could you show from a different angle? It looks new
>>2311260the bare metal has a layer of dark millscale on it so it does look almost identical.
I love my German Bundeswehr E-Tool. Sometimes I even just sit there, petting it. It´s great. Almost like a cat. I just wish it came in a better condition.
>>2311260The best kind of compliment. But if you've owned one, you can still see the wear. This is not a slam, You did a really good job.
>>2311659Do you ever keep the shovel part folded in front of your knuckle, like a smol shield? I actually just cleaned mine today>>2311663I do own one! I guess compared to mine is looks new.. I've hit a couple drill bits while hacking at a stump half a decade ago
>>2288277>hoeAt that point can’t you just carry an axe and stand 90 degrees to where you would be stood with a hoe?
Better late than never to get an MPL50, I guess
only fools lack an e-tools
I love a good hand shovel.
>>2277096Kill yourself nigger mutt
If you can get your hands on an Australian Army E-tool, I'd recommend it. Just steel and wood so not ultra light weight. Sturdy though.
Based on this thread i got myself a random mini shovel.Based on what i've seen people recommend the cold steel one, but i didn't get that, yet.Now for folding, do i go with the gerber e-tool or something?
>>2277057All well and good until the fucking thing breaks. Not sure about you but the places I go tend to have a lot of clay and rocks in the soil that eats trowels for lunch.
>>2278629>Having carried one as a reservist I'm not sure why you'd want one unless you're actually going to need to dig a fighting positionI was a "light" infantryman and we would legit carry some full sized shovels and pick axes. And usually break a couple
>>2318579>burnt handles>drives a jeepI know this is a Larp thread but bruh, don't you think you're taking it a bit too far?
>>2309995>everyone I don't like is the same personMental disorder confirmed, yet again
>>2319208either samefagging or you are silly and didnt read the contextpost tools either way>>2319207burnt handles are a bit much aye, my shovel's handle is bleached from years of sunI couldnt imagine having it close enough to a fire to give it a scorch- certainly without actually burning a part of it
>>2309993 the post>>2309995 the reply>>2319236 the deserved mocking>>2319236 (you) being retarded and lying.
>>2319248I think you meant >>2289253Did you start the thread 80% of the way down, or are you dumb, or hiding your samefagging ? I notice you didnt post your e-tool so I'll assume you are >>2289253 until otherwise
>>2319251More you being retarded. You tourists have no idea how this site even works.Go back to reddlt and work on that gold some more.>I don't understand how linking works>everyone I don't like is the same person
>>2319299>"I don't understand how linking works"Because it was deleted, smartie. Perhaps it is you who should return since you dont understand such a basic concept. You reek of projecting. Why are you even here; you have contributed nothing to this thread but fruitless arguing.
>>2309993people who go around calling things "cringe" and "larp", hate fun, and have never touched grass.
>>2276771do not buy this shit (pic rel)i bought one and it is small, flimsy, thin metal and it broke after the first use. applying any force to the end breaks the holding mechanism.get a real milsurp one. i like the ones like this based autist >>2311659 has, they really are nice pieces of kit. I can see why he holds it affectionately.
>>2319452considering the military ones can be had for about 20-25$ there is little reason not to just get one instead
>>2277096don’t be a fag anon
>>2319308>being this new
get the cold steel one that has a solid handle. ive tried a half dozen of the folding ones and they have all been too frail and fragile for any real world use beyond digging a 8 inch deep shit hole.
>>2320290I have and love cold steel shovel, but I am waiting on two foldy shovels I ordered. I love digging C:
>>2277321I like you smallshovelanon
>>2283172The only thing I'm gonna breed is your bumbum
>>2324440You'll catch something.Notice he still hasn't posted the tools.Guess they rusted away.
>>2309961>>you need to balance your food on a small shovel>>with a raised center
>>2319449It's funny that the people most obsessed about image and looking like a dick in public are the ones who go outside and interact with others the least
>>2319582Shut the fuck up
>>2324474>being this new
>>2299744>had to replace the fold bolt and file the shovel edge to take this picture Ahhahhahahhahahahhaahhahahah.
>>2324780the raised center is on the "top"unless you mean to rotate the shovel so it all just falls off ?>>2324993>>2324998stop samefagging and just post it all in one post>a non-answer, still>and a false assumptionYou think that was freshly sharpened ?False.Post your 'old farm tools' already or be gone.
>>2325363Ahahhahahahahhshahahhahaha. You're so amazingly stupid it's palpable.
>>2325363Also, newfag, this isn't samefagging. Keep being retarded though.
>>2325662>>2325667>does the same thing
2325736>being this newYour level of stupidity is truly amazing.
>>2317638Based. It really is perfect with the pickaxe and sturdiness, just a bit heavy, but the pickaxe functionality makes it really worth it.
>>2326053this picture makes me think of a modern aussie group invading new mexico but war hasnt changed since trench warfareis this the AUS port of half life ?
>>2325894>Being this new
>>2276771i take it these are mainly used for pooper related activities on trails hence their popularity, unless someone is digging trenchesduring winter i carry a snow shovel if i have warm tent with me and if there is half a meter of snow on the ice so i have to do some dinningsummertime pooping is just removing some moss and placing it back on top of my shit
got me new shovels today
>>2327473they are goodwill post when able
>>2309947Enjoy food full of sand and grit
He did fly so good!Neat!
>>2283497>what is rust
the ground is no longer iced overfriends - get to shoveling
Rain, rain, go away
>>2332579make a creek another day
>>2327473the longer foldy is interesting; better for standing up garden workthe shorter may replace the cold steel for hole time
>>2301362Squatting is a thing you know.
Dug in the snow and ice and rain this evening. Got good reception of the county classic country station. Was very comfy.
>>2337585interesting use of the thigh strap
>>2337656collapsible like single fold or double fold ?see >>2299744 for double foldyou can get a fixed replacement for the cold steel for not that mucheven a russian-made one with markings and a sheath for I think 40$ including shipping
You could use a trowel if you want to just make small holes. I've seen people try to sell hugely marked up garden trowels as "camping shovels" and other such nonsense before. They are small and light one handed tools so keep that in mind, but they do work well if you just want to dig for bugs, make a firepit or bury poop.
>>2339604Same thing happened to a lot of good sellers offering some good outdoors outfits and gear, sadly. It's been screwing over the prepper types too as niche stuff was supplied from there.
>>2276771Got tired of E-tools failing and finally got a fixed shovel. I think it's a cold steel spetznaz shovel but the design is exactly what the Germans used around WW2.
>>2339604Probably in federal prison for being a good person.
>>2339771Has it changed your life?
>>2339774Russia hater. What did they ever do to you?
I dug, I died, I dig no moreThe logs will be gone soon
>>2340201use the logs to fortify the positionis what I did here >>2278228
>grizzly kydex sheath for cold steel shovel costs more than the shovel itselfThe one it comes with is shit and I want something molle compatible in ranger green, any suggestions? I heard collapsible/folding ones suck compared to fixed ones, I almost bought a chink multitool shovel but figured I'd stick to the basics
>>2340608>The one it comes with is shitIt holds it on a strap or belt, and protects the edge>I need to airsoft larpthen get a side plate pouch in green and cut a hole in the bottom. There you go.>collapse suck compared to fixedcertainly less stable, like a knife versus a folder- but it does take up less space when you arent using it
>>2340309They are already sold. They wont get any direct spall or ricochets now, so Im not too worried about it, but I may dig down a little deeper if they dont pick them up when the road gets passable
>>2340953just have fun, manthat's what e-tools are for
>>2326059>this picture makes me think of a modern aussie group invading new mexico but war hasnt changed since trench warfareSoldiers will dig a fair while yet, maybe they'll dig for 3 days in between patrolling and build bunkers with overhead protection in defense, maybe they'll dig some shell scrape each night on the move, it's not trench warfare but a simple matter of protection
>>2343003I meant the methods of fighting havent changed while the equipment hasalso- related- since that post, I got an auscam boonie hat (:
>>2343003Mostly they fill sandbags these days. Anything bigger is contractors or core of engineers..with contractors.
>>2342955The real fun will be blasting all of my steels away with my ak shotgun
>>2346054sounds lamedoubt you have one, either
>>2346064What a strange thing to post
>>2346139agreed, >>2346054 was oddly unspecific
>>2346167Ok, well I will enjoy my new shooting range I dug out of a hillside in my back 40 and you all keep being weird and sad on the internet
>>2346207you don't even know what your distinctly-named weapon is calledpost your set up with a timestamp or I'll be justified
sometimes I dig a hole tooin my bum
>>2346560Thats not healthy anon. The poop will come out when its ready you dont need to dig.
>>2309953We use the same ones in Norwegian army, they are "ok", no more.I prefer the older type, with the straight handle, they are more versatile.Most e-tools annoy me with that slop that you never get completely rid of.I'd much rather just carry a small shovel if I know I'll have to do any digging.
>>2309959>>2309960>>2309961Don't cook in your shovel, that's a recipe for prion disease.Normal cooking heat isn't guaranteed to kill all prions, and they can be found in soil.You need a core temp over 70-something Celsius for some time to be safe, just cook your shit on a stick or carry a dedicated pot or pan of some sort for cooking.
>>2346232>Getting this worked up over a $300 chink saiga clone trashblasterPls go outside
>>2346747oh it's a clone, grossatleast you learned what the name waseven if it took you almost a full day>>2346682same, the wiggle in folding shovels gives less 'can I strike down with this' confidence versus a solid shovel>>2346683I was the last post you quoted, and I was saying how it's a dumb idea to cook on a shovel since cheap but good enough material cook sets exist
>>2276771you can't use that the military use that so its stolen valor and a LARP cant use it people will think youre a terrorist do you want people to think youre a terrorist incel on the trail you deviant freak maybe you should take a construction shovel with you or just dig with your hands like a normal person huh huh HUH?? yeah thats right i bet you didnt think of that you nazi chudcel you probably don't even wear blaze orange and bright green clothes while youre hiking you fucking mass murdering maniac if i ever see you im going to punch you in the face and if you try to do anything im gonna call the cops on you fat loser
>>2346899>s stolMy brother in christ, go outside and try it on people who can do a single pull up, which is twice that of what you can do.Your english is in need of tuning but keep it up by the way.
>>2346899sounds about right.I hate both modern society and the antichrist.
>>2347384WE hate the anti christ. Bless you brother.
>>2298573those bundes e tools suck. I've got one and it's much too fuckin heavy to really be of use for anything but car camping
>>2319308>fruitless arguingwhere do you think you are
>>2348228Aye, I prefer a solid shovel first and a single fold second. Tri seems to be when you don't need it 99% of the time and you want it to take up little space.>>2348232Excuse me, this is a high-quality imageboard. Yotsuba is very good.
I am sad that those titanium e-tools became unobtanium now after the Russians started their war in Ukraine. Would have been a great thing to carry on my autism expeditions in my mothers backyard.
>>2348383>"I believe propaganda"You should be saying it's a shame that the free market aint really that free and you are sad the globalists decide for you what is okay to buy whenever they want
>>2348509Well, I am Finnish and I am rooting for Ukraine all the way because finland might as well be next target. Russia has a history of invading us. But yes, I am sad that the end result is that I can't get my titanium e-tool.
>>2348563>because finland might as well be next targetyou must be a very weak finn, thenif anything the first week showed that russia can't invade- and you guys should have counter-invaded to retake your eastern lands. you probably would have gotten international support. but you didn't. what a shamethe point of that pic was that it isn't russia saying they won't sell, but [[[them]]] telling us they won't act as the middle man they are supposed to be
>>2348610>you must be a very weak finn, thenI have a war time duty as an infantry squad leader and I am willing to take arms if my country needs me to do so, I am physically and skillwise both ready and able to fullfill my war time duties. But why is valuing peace considered as a bad thing?
>>2348689anyone who uses (((them))) is a windmill brain anon, cant be helped
>>2348936>fixates on trivial parts of a sentence, not the pointa useless non-thinker>>2348689>ohi onis part of valuing peace passively allowing war ?a greater duty of peace is to pro-actively prevent harm, not only respondnever said why didnt you guys imitate an invasion; I said you could have responded to an actual invasion with retaking back land stolen a key part is: land stolenor do the captured people there not deserve the peace
>>2346873Touch dirt today; you need it.
>>2350367You okay? You were nicer to me here >>2340953Did something happen since? Don't deflect onto melearn what your tools are called
just don't use anything foldable because it WILL break.
>>2350587>only folders breakanything will break, period. anything low quality will break fasterit's a matter of using a tool properly and not abusing it for memes. preventative cleaning to reduce rust and therefore deteriorationI prefer my fixed shovel, but a folder is good for digging holes. I wouldn't want to use it as an ax the same as the fixed shovel
Hungarian folding shovel back in stock. Get your TF2 soldier larp while you can
I've very much appreciated how this thread has developed over the four months.
>digs holes and tenches>has a pick>can be used as a hoe>can be used as a chair>can be used as a toilet seat>can be used as an axe>can be used as a saw>can be used as a weapon>folds up neatly and hangs outside your pack for quick accessE-tool is arguably the most OP piece of /out/ gear.
>>2340608>>2318579>>2339599What are the head dimensions of both models?
Anyone have any suggestions for how to repair / reinfoce an E-tool holster in these spots? Pic related is not mine-- mine is not this worn out, athough it is starting to wear and fray in the same spots as this pic, which seems to be pretty common for these pouches.My first thought was using some 2-part epoxy adhesive to seal up the fraying spots but I don't really know. My other best guess is to patch the spots up with some leather but that would really come down to how good my stitching is, and I'm not a tailor.
>>2359750as those are the three spots on the pouch the edge wears, smart pouches have reinforcements therejust spend half an hour sewing a few patches of thick fabric repurposed from something else onto those spots
>>2303440>It was a very fine hole, too.Based hole enjoyerI'm 31 and still feel the urge to just dig holes from time to time, just like when i was 7.
>>2359840I am that post, and when I was about 7 I was digging holes probably inspired by Holes that was in theaters at the time (and the book, yes I read)fill it up with water and you get a thin mud bathI miss being young and happy
>>2359828Hmm, that makes sense. I guess the fraying is because the outside of the pouch is being stressed by the contents, which makes it more vulnerable to scuffs and tears in those spots. A yard of 6.5 oz OCP costs about $10 shipped from eBay so I think I'll go that route and have a go at patching it.
>>2359845if you want to be /k/oncealed..I'd just reinforce it with a fabric you have on hand, preferably a solid color so it doesn't look silly with non-matching pattern
>>2359850I've got the pouch strapped to my bakcpack's webbing and my backpack is also OCP, so I'd prefer to keep it looking as close to stock as I can.
>>2359844>inspired by Holes that was in theaterswtf they made a movie out of that? it was okay as a kids book, but i can't think of this as movie material. >I miss being young and happysamenot a doomer, just missing the carelessness of being a kid in the mid 90s
>>2359861even with the paranoia and patr*ot act laws of the early 2000s, we still had good american cultureand yeah the movie had little baby shia lebeouf
>>2359861The movie is kidkino. Well worth a watch, especially with the family.
>>2358266I see the fact that CS has no sheath for the larger model as a bad sign.
>>2311659Sometimes I take my USGI E-tool out of its pouch and just swing it around indoors for no reason other than because I love how the thing feels in my hand. I was so happy when I finally got one, I even bought a scrubbing brush that I keep in my bag just so I can keep it clean when I use it. I love that thing so much I wash it with soap and water every time I use it.
>>2363662Very wholesome. I just got a pouch for my foldy boy today !
>>2361434Learn to sew fag.
>>2276771I see shovels like this all the time on ebay, are the Romanian ones any good?
>>2365513See >>2335571the lock-up is certainly strongif you're lucky, you get one like mine that you can un-nut and take apart instead of a rivet that you have to cut
Limit reachedNew thread>>2366332>>2366332