Anyone else here forever alone? I’m in my late twenties and considering just giving up the idea of a relationship and living in the woods or traveling till I die.
>>2209047Same except I'm in my early 30s, I'm so close to just ditching everyone and running away. I read up and watched stuff about the FL and feels like it could be a good way to reset your life and live an amazing /out/ experience, maybe make some real friends you can trust to death along the way as well.I got my backpack and gym bag waiting under the bed, filled to the brim with camping stuff to survive a year or two out there, that's plan B if I don't pass the FL admission. I'd go to the east and settle somewhere in the Asian wilderness. I'm waiting for the next paycheck so I can leave that to my family before I ditch them, even though they don't deserve it.
>>2209047I've been divorced for 6 years now, I haven't been on a date or anything of the sort in ages. Truthfully I'm pretty certain I'm going to shoot myself before Christmas some time this year.
Dated and married the wrong girl for 8 years. 31 and single now. Funny enough I found this girl who likes all the outdoor stuff I like, same sense of humor, ect. But she is 20. Least I got a fishing buddy now. Life is fucked sometimes.
>>2209047>hunt>fish>backpackAs a late twenties bachelor myself I find myself spending more and more time up in the mountains.
>>2209047>>2209061Man up you bitches.Get off the internet. You can live in the woods and still get women, or get a woman then move to the woods. I have a wife and 2 sons. Homesteading is the most kino /out/ activity I do. I hunt, fish, garden (wife helps) and raise our 2 children and take them to do it. I'm literally the happiest I've ever been. Travelling and all that shit is fun too but family out life is peak comfy. Do you need help finding women? What do you look like? Where do you live?
>>2209061What’s the FL?
>>2209069It's the fight club but irl.
>>2209068>Do you need help finding women? What do you look like? Where do you live?You wanna hook me up with some qt? honestly, I think my standards might be just a bit too high. I got plans for the future anyway, on my own but still plans.
>>2209047That's a nice picture. Where did you take it?
>>2209072>I think my standards are too highBeta mindset. There is no such thing as too high, only failures will tell you there is. You want someone of a high quality, you best be bringing that quality to the table. Simple as.
>>2209079pretty much>Do you make good money>are you attractive>does your personality make people think "oh this guy is confident but not annoyingly cocky">do you own a home>a car>have your shit together>not a complete dope when it comes to fashion (not telling you to buy armani just telling you not to look like a dork)>are you handy with fixing things/doing manly shit?>do you hunt, fish, provide for yourself?If you're just a twerp that plays video games and posts on 4chan all day that keeps swiping right I can guarentee you you're going to have an uphill battle>>2209072No I was just trying to give you advice. Science figured this out btw: google 'hot crazy matrix' to find the phenotype of women you're looking for
>>2209077I won't, no one likes a quitter after all.
>>2209073Virgin river gorge in Nevada
I only feel lonely when I'm surrounded by people, I simply cannot relate to anyone. When I'm /out/ I'm free.
>>2209047Are you involuntarily celibate?
>>2209047same bro, fucking same, the older i get the more of a longing i jhave to just say fuck it, and go into the wilds with my pack, and a trusty axe, saw, and hammer and fucking live it out, or die trying. Honestly feel like the modern society is not fit for me, generally feel like im an error in the world, i just sit here and do my shitty job, living in my shitty little condo, and i find myself looking toward the mountains and woods more and more. Not sure man, feels like the only answers i really need from the world are somewhere out in the wilds, problem is i dont know what the answer is going to be because i dont know what the questions i need answered are. All i know is i feel very very fucking alone in this world, even though im surrounded by people. You are not alone anon, i kinda thing some souls are just meant to wonder and be this way.
>>2209182>>2209047also pic related i guess
Why not just be gay? You could probably find another man if you were willing to be open-minded. If you find women to be the problem - well there is an alternative that does not require them!
>>2209185Top two aren't applicable. You can do both of those and still be depressed.
>>2209085Hopefully your next incarnation is better, because you're here forever.
>>2209047>>2209073>>2209088There’s something about the deserts of the southwest I’ve always loved, quiet peaceful.
>>2209206Sure they are. Top left you kill until you are killed, thus ending depression. Top right you get swol and eventually feel good about yourself for accomplishing something of merit. But since you are gonna nit pick, you can go the route of the bottom two and still be depressed.There is no escape from depression, homie.
>>2209206You can also do bottom two and be depressed>does she actual care about me>why do people suffer if there is God
>>2209062Gonna KYS just cuz you have no woman?You don't have to go out that way.At least try to help the environment before you die.
>>2209287I've done the top two, I've also done the bottom two. Only time I didn't feel depressed was the bottom two.
>>2209061Asian wilderness? Where in particular are you thinking?
>>2209065This better be bait because 11 years is nothing
>>2209182For me it's more like being an RV-living climbing guy, but pretty much the same.
>>2209308https://archive.is/djx7IIn the psychiatric evaluation, Johnson reveals that Kaczynski had persistent and intense sexual fantasies about being a woman. While he was a graduate student at the University of Michigan in 1967, he went to a psychiatrist to discuss his wishes for a sex change operation. But in the waiting room, he decided he could not go forward. Instead, he told the psychiatrist he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted.His near confession of his feelings so filled him with rage, in this case directed at psychiatrists, that he went through a major transformation."As I walked away from the building afterwards," Kaczynski wrote in documents released today, "I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do. And I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope."Kaczynski's new hope? To take his rage out on others, including the psychiatrist. "I will kill," Kaczynski wrote. "But I will make at least some effort to avoid detection so that I can kill again."
>>2209047If gonna give it up maybe you can give it up for god and have some meaning
>>2209185The top two are hallow if you are not fighting for a greater cause a godly one it’s memeThe other one is vanity unless you work for utility The bottom two are good way more emphasis on the one right
>>2209185Christcucks are so cringe
>>2209188There is no need for heterophobia on this board okay. Let's be civil.
>>2209649How so? Besides cynic remarks and numbing your mind with everyday activities how do you find purpose in life without some kind of spiritual or at least philosophic ground belief?
>>2209655>how do you find purpose in life without some kind of spiritual or at least philosophic ground belief?If you need to hallucinate a person to find meaning that's kinda sad
>>2209188>sink further into degeneracy to cure your problems gotKek
>>2209068This guy gets itRaising a family on our 50 acre homestead and living a simpler, slower, not to mention cheaper lifestyle has given me purpose, fulfillment and drive like I've never had before, and I honestly dont have time to wallow in self pity. Wife and I are trying for kid #3 rn and recently started going to church. Pic related, finishing up firewood for this winter
>>2209281thats because there is NOBODY else out therethats why i love the deserts too
>>2209047>move to some 3rd world shithole>use your 1st world knowledge to make it a better place with 1st world farming and labor techniques>drown in pussy every day and have 12 kids without the risk of divorce or child support>get to explore exotic lands and work the land like you were meant to
>>2209144Pretty much, I can’t say I’ve ever really tried because of a combination of social anxiety/awkwardness, schizoid personality and drug abuse
>>2209677i'll be your third child
>>2209693>involuntarily>I'm an awkward schizo druggie>involuntarilyUnfuck yourself anon
>>2209649Maybe. They're happier than you though.
>>2209677Then why are you still on this site
>>2209697What do you have to offer?
>>2209701I've got a day job that allows me to shitpost and there is occasionally good content here and on /diy/
>>2209671Well I said that philosophy also does it, but seems you're too retarded to read. Go watch Rick and Morty and jack off to cope with existence kek
Not quite, I have a gf but no friends. I just go out alone. Going out helps
>>2209700No they aren't
>>2209442anon don't give me hope like that ;_;
>>2209139This. GF and I have both generally come to distrust everyone. The people closest to you can hurt you the most. We are in our 30s now and basically have no friends or any ties to the rest of the world. No children yet but it is scary to think about what they are going to face. We work together at a school and by the end of the week, we just feel incredibly overwhelmed with all the social stress. The artificial clown world we have built is hurting people. Your average idiot is very unhealthy and living like a sow in a feeding stall. Being in a store, the movies or traffic let alone a concert is torture for me anymore. People are incredibly selfish and scared. They live their lives reacting and lashing out instead of living with thought and care. We spend our time on the weekends hiking and camping /out/. We spend some time laughing at it all. That said, I tend to enjoy my alone time deep in the woods most. I think it makes me a better person. I think A LOT of /out/ folks just don't integrate with society because they are able to zoom out and see how farcical it is. A crisp fall morning with a cup of cowboy coffee, an old Woolrich jacket and a squirrel gun. Priceless my frens.
>>2209281I've visited USA twice some years ago (Arizona and a bit of Utah first time and California and a bit of Nevada the second). I still think about the deserts often, mostly Arizona. I have seen many beautiful places in my life but I had never seen something so enchanting and magical as the deserts there. I feel attraction to those places like a moth on a lamp even though I know it is probably too hot, lonely and miserable to live in the middle of nothing there.Arizona bros... how is it there? You guys are lucky.
>>2209732Absolutely. Same boat. Going /out/ also makes me a better partner. Would rather have 0 friends than a single shitty one. Fuck, I cannot wait until that first frost. The woods are calling.
>>2209700In my experience there a small minority that are. They are legit high on Jesus. It is a great fit for them. Your average normie weekender though is using church as a half assed outlet for their family/personal mental health issues. In reality a group therepist would serve many better DESU. They also tend to be guilted/shamed into going. It is very difficult to be around some of these people. My family and workplace are full of them. Many are defeated, neutered and miserable people that do need a miracle. Not all but most. /out/ is an excellent place to go to remove yourself from the sadporn.
>>2209789You get used to the heat. I grew up in it, so it doesn't bother me much. The people that move here say they acclimate to it after awhile. I've lived in both Arizona and Nevada. If you want just desert, I recommend Arizona more. The desert in the central part of the state is very scenic; you can find dozens of types of cactus, all kinds of bugs and critters. It's a beautiful place. Getting to watch the sun set on the Superstitions every day is an experience too. I don't have any pictures of it, and my Google Images picture isn't that accurate, but it gives you an idea. If you like the desert and you like /out/, I really recommend moving to Arizona.
>>2209701>>2209677Same except for church.I come on here to shitpost during the day while i work and also I enjoy helping anons in their 20s. I tell them stuff like>mental health is mostly bullshit>be self sufficient, garden, hunt, fish>be a good man>have integrity>try>stop being a pussy>exercise>eat right, learn to cookIf I had someone tell me to do this shit and knew what i knew now at 23 I'd be even more comfier.
>>2209069>>2209070don't fuck with Florida mans
>>2209281thisI live in southern NM and the deserts are just so peaceful. Even in normalfag trails I can sit atop a small hill and just meditate to the sound of nothing but the wind brushing my ears. Absolute solitude
>>2209793Same shit anon, really hoping for some snow. Some challenge is nice when out, the colder and shittier it is, the more powerful I feel. Fucking love winterAnd yeah for sure I'd be a trash partner if I didn't fuck off out, keeps me sane and gets me out of the house.
>>2209812>I really recommend moving to ArizonaIf I had no obligations and money I'd build a house in the desert in AZ, but it's never gonna happen. I'm not even american for sarters, I'm italian. I like the desert so much and I'm from the continent (Europe) that has no real deserts at all kek...You always want what you don't have I guess. But I'll come to visit Arizona again soon hopefully.
>>2209047I didn't met my wife until 27, don't give up anon, if your soul is calling you to a different place, go there. That's why I found her 2 weeks after moving to a different state. Haven't spent a day apart since.
26 here, honestly just never really been romantically interested, had girlfriends, only times I've been In solid relationships is where a girl pretty much bonked me with a frying pan to get into it.Not that I don't enjoy a relationship when it happens, just not something I actively pursue One of my friends joke that any potential girlfriemds I meet now we just end up being friends and they get added to the groupI guess overall I prefer friends I learned that it aucks to have to cut ties with a good hiking partner just because you quit fucking, so in the long run, just stay friends and maybe sometimes casually fuck if someone's needy
>>2209188lol you just cant help but be subversive can you how lonely being an old gay man must be
>hurr durr i dont have a gf im gonna kill myself!!1!jesus christ you failed normies are pathetic
>>220904723, never been in a relationship. I have accepted that I will never be with a girl since I was around 16, though that might have made it a self fulfilling prophesy. I think I'm alright with it, but I'm sure subconsciously it's bad for me.
>>2210012Remind me of her name
>>2210046>I have accepted that I will never be with a girl since I was around 16Same, though I did get some pity sex in college. Didn't really mind being single in my 20s since I always had friends around, but now that I'm in my 30s and most of them are married and/or have kids the loneliness has gotten to be extremely crushing. Hate the idea of suicide so I just go to bed every night hoping I have an aneurysm in my sleep or something.
>>2210035There are worst things than no having a girlfriend and that is being friendless. Being friendless is being death in life.
>>2209047>considering just giving up the idea of a relationship and living in the woods or traveling100% exactly where I'm at right now, I just started browsing here for that very reason. It's not that I don't think I could eventually find someone, I just don't think anyone could ever fill my expectations for a relationship at this point. I'm just too damned different which is a prison of my own design, but it's the one I prefer. On a higher level of awareness, I know that the perfect fit is out there for me and the perfect world as well. Until I'm actually able to embrace those things, there's nothing much else better to do than enjoy my time here with the tools and skills at my disposal to make things more comfortable at the very least.
I was a kissless virgin neet at 29 now I am 32 work full time and just bought a house with my girlfriend . Shit can change fast .
>>2209047Find a partner to take into the woods with you!
>>2210035I miss when this board had more of a mgtow presence and fewer crybaby pussies who should be posting in /r9k/ instead of /out/
>>2210053I wonder how many men in their late 20s and 30s there are in this forum in the exact same situation. We should create an international commune and try to live together helping each other.
>>2210078lol yeah no offense but i can't fucking stand you niggas. i think on some level we all talk here on a faceless image board because we all agree that not knowing who is on the other side is better than finding out, especially if the person on the other end is exactly like me
>>2210083You will reach a point in your life where you will realize that it's better to have some friends than being completely alone. Being alone is cool for some time but no one can live alone and not become extremely depressed and deraned (yes, more than now).
>>2210088sure, but until then i know damn well i dont want anymore me's hanging around
>>2210097You must be still young or haven't been alone for years and years. You will remember my words one day. There is nothing worst in life than being friendless.
Find a fatty Anon. They will keep you warm in the winter and shady in the summer.
>>2209685>>drown in pussy every day and have 12 kids without the risk of divorce or child supportI'm not into beastiality
>>2210009You can move here. You speak English, that's pretty much the only requirement. This country is fucked when it comes to letting immigrants in. I'd rather have some Italian that appreciates /out/ move here than Johnny Deadbeat Colombian who isn't going anywhere with their lives.
>>2210009You better like guns, we have lots of them here also we got a lot of Italians here. I’d take you here more then Asians and blacks.
>>2209047Late 20s? Your life is just beginning. I didnt meet my wife until I was 40. Keep playing the game and you have a better chance of winning at it, stop playing and you never will. Go for a hike if you like, (it might help you develop a bit more, get you fitter and gain some life experiences), but never give up or think that you life is over yet.
>>2209703To be a live-in Ranch Hand.you don't have to pay me except in meals and board, and a cery small salary. Also when the clothes get destroyed due to labor. I could help around your plot. Everything from landscaping to animal care. You name it, I'm your man.
>>2209047you are one of billions. the chance to be a winner is very small.
>>2210063>there was no reply to this >>2210240Being alone all the way up until you're 40 sounds awful. I think most of the people in this thread would suck start a shotgun if that was truly the case. Humans aren't meant to be alone.
38 hereRural living is expensive and impractical in the UK. Wish I could escape and live a simple life but its pretty much impossible. Wish I lived in the US or somewhere you can just vanish into the vast outdoors and find a spot to be unbothered in
>>2209068Women wouldn't make me happy you realize. Not having a girlfriend is the least of my issues.
>>2209677>>2209824That only works for some peopleNone of that stuff improved my life or how I think I'm anyway. And I would never want to homestead in my state. That's be actively miserable. Being outside here is so useless and awful that everybody has a vitamin D deficiency here. I can only go /out/ if I take a flight
>>2210053>>2210051>>2210046>>2210046>>2210012>>2209693>>2209693>>2209188>>2209182>>2209061>>2210240>>2210335>>2210337A bunch of weak beta men making excuses that sound like incels. I was going to try to encourage and help you, but fuck it. Please kill yourselves. Not even figuratively speaking. The world would be a better place without weak excuse making low testosterone queers like yourselves. Your ancestors would be ashamed of you. We fight unprecedented tyranny in the west, authoritarianism has never been stronger. There have never been more fish in the sea. You have never had more resources than you have right now yet you're going to choose to be picky until you get a 10/10. Lmao. You would all cum in about 2 pumps. You wouldn't know what to do. Your great great great grandparents just wanted someone who survived smallpox and whos pussy didn't smell completely fucking nasty since those people literally only showered once a week. Yet you'll sit here and instead of doing something about the temperature getting turned up on the frog slowly boiling, instead of trying to find a mate and start a family, instead of doing anything worth while in your life you are going to strive to get more XP in the latest video game and buy short term materialistic possessions that you think will make you happy. In reality you'll be another disgruntled 50 year old man forever alone on a barstool creeping out all the women or having them think you're gay in the coming years. You will die alone in a hospital bed with no friends, no family, being a senile old man talking about your video game quests to some dindu nurse who could give 2 shits. You people disgust me. More women for the rest of us I guess.
>>2210353Most of these posts are people who don't even want women or already know that women won't make them happy and being okay with being alone. Happy Hermits and depressed misanthropes still existed thousands of years ago.You seem like you're trying too hard to fit in
>>2210353>he thinks getting married is the key to a happy, fulfilling life>unironically posting that boomer-tier tripe in 2021
>>2210360>>2210364people like ya'll are the reason the USA will become the next South Africa.
>>2210369I don't get it >captcha ad0n0
>>220944228yo married boomer and a 20 year old girl is basically a really smart dog compared to me.
>>2210369Buddy, look at the thread you are posting in. This is a containment thread for people who won't influence ANYTHING. Come to another thread and let these guys be.
>>2210369The USA is fucked because people STILL believe the two party system is real and a choice. Ron Paul has been proven right over and over and over again.
>>2210385agree with you therenot to be racist, but, I don't think the white incels not finding mates and staying on their 'battlestations' their entire lives while all the other races breed us out of existence will be good for the future of our culture or the USA.Wasn't trying to get political. Just kind of wanted to tell these incels they're pathetic. Enjoy talking about your forever alone-ness in this god forsaken thread buckos.
>>2210047You want a list of my previous girlfrinds names?
>>2210390I'm married and getting a second degree while my wife gets her masters and honestly it is still uphill as fuck now. The inflation rate is insane and even though our plan is rural and buying a cheap steel barn house that are only like 30k on 30-40k worth of land then saving up to build a concrete home I can see what is happening in the cities and it is frightening. Foreign money is buying up all the real estate and more and more people are being trapped in the rental cycle and never gaining equity. The importation of labor and demographics displacement is more about benefiting the megacorps with cheap labor. I'm getting my IT certs and bs and biden almost immediately imported a fuckton of pajeets instead of improving our domestic education system. The game is rigged and insanely corrupt.If you are ITT and still own student loans while having enough space where you don't need your credit I advise you to open as many lines of credit as you can, take cash advances, pay off your loans with those cash advances, then declare bankruptcy. Your credit will come back in about 5 years if you take shitty cheap loans on 5-10 grand cars and you will fuck the bankers out of that money.
>>2210383they are like that forever
>>2210396don't do the 2nd part lol.You don't need a 2nd degree or even certs. Just get a help desk job and work your way up. Indians are bullshitters most people recognize that and keep them at bay (t.sysadmin)I agree about living in rural america. Its pretty based. Everything is remote anyway and its worth the extra drive a few days a week so have 5/7 days a week where you can do all yoru chores, garden, hunt/fish after work etc.
>>2210400No, they learn basic things like insurance premiums and deductibles, how to itemize on taxes, logistics and planning things like vacations, and general knowledge so they know basic trivia provided they have the personality that is about improvement. Really with long term relationships it is about competence in day to day activities and long term goals. That and frequent sex. Women get a lot better and turn into people the closer they get to the wall.
>>2210406I already have the money and am going through wgu so it is only taking me 18 months. I get my first cert in a month and have a connection to work in the local universities it department. The whole bs and 7 certs is costing me 12k. I plan on getting a masters afterwards as well to accelerate the laddering. I'm thinking about going for cybersecurity masters as well as an mba so my career cap would be CSO.
>>2210408True I don't really know about insurance and taxes or planning a vacation, but I'd rather hang myself than deal with any of that bullshit. Really shows you who all this modern bullshit is built for, feminism has really cucked the whole world inside and out
>>2210413Well with vacations you want to book out 6 months in advance and you have to plan that time off with both works. With insurance you have to deal with medical bills, dental, vision, car accidents. When you're married you have to deal with your taxes differently and itemize medical expenses, child expenses, unfortunately. You want to find a good tax man. FDR ruined this country 100 years ago.
>>2210391Kek didn't you admit to being five feet tall in another thread
>>2210415I'm never gonna file taxes again, I'm gonna go outside instead
>>2210418taxes are gay, money is fake anyway
>>2210417Yea I'm 5.21 feet if I've translated its correctly from my passportWhat's your point?I'm short, built like a barrel and have a red beard, but i play to my strengths
>>22104275'2.5" probably not so bad depending on your country. You only need to be within a standard deviation of average where you are from.
>>2210418>>2210425Yeah I hate the federal government so much it's almost dangerous.
>>2209062Don't use a gun. You'd just be another statistic for gun violence. Use helium gas instead, it's completely painless.
>>2210425yup>>2210435yeah uh almost
>>2209047Never too late to drive an 18 wheeler
>>2210353Bro if you saw my face you would understand. Trust me.
>>2210548t. beta mindsetStop giving yourself reasons to hate yourself, you only tell that to yourself and you fucking know it. If you constantly think about the things you don't like about yourself, either force yourself to think positively or change them. Don't hate yourself just because it's easy.
>>2210559This.I had a friend in trade school that had a face that looked like a bag of smashed assholes and dressed like a dork but he had a dime for a wife and everybody loved him because he was an alpha and didnt behave like a sperg
>>2210548Bluepilled gaslighters like >>2210559 will never understand, but females do understand. That's why they react to seeing your face the way they do.
I can't stand this whiny incel shit on /out/. Quit being a pussy and practice by banging fat girls on Tinder. Find a wife elsewhere once you've gained some confidence. That being said, if you can't learn to live alone with yourself and be content, nobody else will be content with you.
No I’m married with a child and another due soon. It gets better if you make it get better.
>>2209047You dont actually care about being a relationship and you need to accept that reality. If you cared you would put time and energy into finding one.
>>2209649>.t miserable atheistic retard
>>2210754Being this normie and retarded. I hope you are just trolling.
>>2210715>if you can't learn to live alone with yourself and be content, nobody else will be content with you.And another retarded normie. Nobody can live alone retard. The edgy retards that say things like that, that they prefer to live alone always inside their houses and that they don't like friends and anything else, is because they are DERANGED and they have believed their own bullshit to justify that they are fucking losers.
>>2209671>doesn't answer the question>uses cynic remark
>>2210434Personality is way more important then height, the Internet being obsessed with male height is hilarious to me, then again, I've pretty much only been with women way taller then me, love them sticks
>>2210009Deserts in Hungary anon, and you’re a boat ride from the largest desert on earth
>>2210415>>2210418>>2210435Why are taxes in the USA such a pain in the ass? Not American obviously, but isn’t it in the govs interest to make taxes sensible?
>>2209047>alone in late 20swhy arent you getting some milf pussy?women aged 30~45 would absolutely jump your bones first chance they get, just so they can experience young cock again. take advantage of your situation while you still can. once you hit your 30s women your age are all damaged, so your only option is to take 20~26yo girls away from zoomer fags with gay haircuts. women almost never date ppl their own age.
>>2210934Our entire government exists to steal money from the middle class and give it to the rich while keeping the poor docile and stupid enough to buy their votes. The two party system is a lie and all the republicans are there for is to pretend to fight against cronyism. We have a progressive tax system where the engineer/doctor pays all the taxes and the ceo pays none of them. What makes it a pain on top of that is there are state income and property taxes, medicare, social security, and federal taxes, and you want to write off all business expenses, child rearing, medical. They want it to be confusing on purpose.
>>2210934The Democrats basically are like give us more tax money we’ll fix societies ails. The republicans are like we’re going to kind of permanently play defense. The libertarians are like fuck the government you retards have proven you don’t deserve more tax dollars you don’t spend the ones you have wisely yet the propaganda is so heavy most people don’t know what libertarians are and vote red since they just don’t want blue to win. The US middle class is dwindling and soon all the poor will eat the rich oligarchy and a lot of someones are going to just flip the monopoly board over because enough people will realize they can’t win. That’s why I go out and prepare for the worst. I’ve found home gardening is the most based and easy thing ever to prepare for the times to come. Peppers are so easy a literal retard could grow them. You just throw in the seeds and water it every so often
>>2210937Sex doesnt equal happiness, way too many people think it does, and they end up all fucked up over it.
>>2210977no but it does have a domino affect. Most people I know that are angry/fat/miserable/pent up rage/etc usually have a lot of issues getting laid. Men or women. I know some fat lesbians who weren't lesbians they just never could get a nice dicking because they're the size of hippos. I think if these people got laid they would relax about other stuff. Something something chemical release into the body
>>2210980Thats just a temporary fix, like getting shot and putting a bandaid on it. What helps the most is consistent validation and self-work. Case in point the landwhales you brought up, all they need to do is stop being fat and they'd have a way easier time finding someone. The problem is that people don't want to work on themselves and say "I want someone that wants me for who I am", which is shorthand for "I want surrogate momdad to take care of me."And I only bring up the validation bit because the rare times a loser lands someone, its because that someone enables their bullshit because theyre attracted to it, like chubby chasers, but can still make people that would otherwise be a lost cause the kinds of feelings that can help someone escape that pit of despair.
>>2210369>>2210369>y'allstopped reading right there
>>2210396>If you are ITT and still own student loans while having enough space where you don't need your credit I advise you to open as many lines of credit as you can, take cash advances, pay off your loans with those cash advances, then declare bankruptcy. Your credit will come back in about 5 years if you take shitty cheap loans on 5-10 grand cars and you will fuck the bankers out of that money.Sam is that you?
>>2209047yes.and it's a good plan.>>2209061I'm 31 btw.but recently the more i go innawoods the more i've got a serious crack in my faith and often it occures to me this is all just fucking LARPing that originates from the romanticization of earlier ages and from escapism.nature and these beautiful environments i visit to feel "home" used to be the fucking Arena to our ancestors where they fought for survival every day. just like the average bugman wagie does in the workshop or in the office hive today.gatherers, hunters, trappers, fishermen, charcoal burners, limestone burners, loggers, miners, livestock herders spent most of their days in the woods / on the fields but not because they wanted to sit down after the 12 hours "shift" and vibe and get some spiritual experience.they were not content with their miserable stick and stone huts. (unlike niggers and amazonians)they didn't even try memes like stealth camping. with all of their actions they tried to break nature and create safer, more comfortable environments.they worked hard, acquired goods or currency to build solid, comfortable homes that protected them and their family where they could settle down in their old days.a nice crackling fire in the hearth, ample food on the table, happy kids, lusty breeder wife, comfy bed, this was all they wanted. not some fucking esoteric contact with the pine needle sticking in their ass or with the spirit of the rabbit that's gonna be in their stew for the 7th motherfucking time this week.and now we just go /out/ there in our modern gear and either pretend it's some feat to make a fucking camp for a couple days or seek some enlightenment by staring at a mountain lake.tl;dr ever since some furtive pygmy discovered fire and the perks of hiding in a cave we don't belong in nature at all.
>>2210812>love them stickscause you know they will give you tall sons
>>2210934the american experiment is actually an experiment on human suffering not democracy or something retarded like that
>>2209047>>2209061>>2209062>>2209065Kind of these. 4 years ago I hit 30 and got sick of my dead-end retail job in the city + edgy 22yo goth girlfriend and bought an old Saab convertible. Packed my shit in it and drove off into the sunset without even quitting my job. Like peace, I'm out. I had police visit me after the fact to make sure I wasn't dead. Maybe the girlfriend's parents or boss was worried that I'd died, but I was super alive. Super He-man 64 possible wizard shit aliveStraight away I got work as a farmhand on a dairy and beef farm in the middle of nowhere making three times my old wage. Had a few years of sketchy trailer park living but bought an old miners cottage for $160K two years later and feed the shit out of native birds
>>2210715That's some gross cringe shit dude. Banging fat girls for experience in search of a wife makes you become a mirror image of your own dad
>>2210052My only friend is my wife, and I guess me and my neighbor get along well but aren't very similar. I am content with this. I was raised by antisocial parents though, so maybe I'm abnormal.
>>2211516The Papacy has found a path to powers many consider to be unnatural.
>>2211307You're not wrong. There's a balance. Sleep in a comfy place, but don't spend your life in a suburb.
>>2209649God bless you anon
>>2211327i mean, your not wrong, a having a human ladder that can reach the tall shelves for me is great
>>2211285No I did hear it on Ari Shaffirs podcast though.
>>2211520He literally is running an organization with the bankers to spread cronyism to all world governments. Google inclusive capitalism with the vatican and look at the about us steering committee.
>>2209649it's cringey on the outside but they honestly seem genuinely happy>t. undergrad and masters at a catholic uni as a noncatholic
>>2211778I believe in god but I don't get how they accept such self contradicting dogmas and I also hate how poor the interpretations of mythology is at churches. If they were as good as Joseph Campbell or Jung I would go all the time. Generally their thoughts on scripture are fucking stupid and hamfisted though.
I'm glad this thread exists and that there are others here like me. I'm 28 years old, and have never been in a serious relationship. I fell in love with a couple girls almost back to back during my teen years, but I was pretty cringe back then and exhausted myself on love at an early age on girls who wanted nothing to do with me. Even though that was a long time ago, it set up my mindset that feeling love or infatuation was something bad and that I should be ashamed of. I've bettered myself significantly in my adult years as most people do, but that mindset remains, and my luck with love and romance has not improved much. These days it's more bad luck and not finding anyone I actually want to be with, but every time I've gotten close and things look suspiciously good, I've sabotaged it one way or another. Several years ago, I started going /out/ regularly, and that has somehow filled that void. I find myself pushing myself harder and doing more dangerous things just so I can get that taste of life that many others get with a romantic partner. I'm preparing to hike the AT as soon as I can, and I may do all the other thru hikes in America after that. I'm preparing for the solitary life of a drifter, and I feel like not only is it too late for me to try romantic love, but I'm preparing for a life without it, just like the rest of my life up to this point has been without it. Some of us anons are just meant to live and die alone.
>>2209047I'm 32, working as programmer.I have some friends but I can't really connect with anyone. Never had a girlfriend and had multiple chances, last one not so long ago but it just boils down to the first statement.I have no trouble being alone and enjoying my time so I'm not going to put up with someone I can't fully connect just for sex.I don't enjoy living in the city and nature always makes me feel good. Currently saving to buy some land and build a house. If I happen to find a good girl I'll welcome it, but I always thought than if someone has to be the cornerstone of your happiness, that person must be yourself.
>>2209047Im in my 30s and ive stopped looking. Im now of the mind that if i find someone, cool. If not, cool. Hard to find people who like guns, the outdoors, anime, and working out nowadays. And im not going to settle with a woman my age that is only into me for a free ride. So im just going to enjoy homeschooling my son, saving up for a jetski, and buy night vision goggles so i can walk around my house in the dark. Theres a difference between being alone and being lonely, anon
>>2209447Nice pasta technophile
>>2211849Kek. Literally me minus the kid but I found my younger outdoor gf. She is 9 years younger than me. We fish n shit a lot. She keeps improving tho. I have been doing the same BS job for like 7 years. She working towards becoming a conservation officer. For some reason I keep thinking she will leave me once she gets her job and has to move away while I'm stuck here. It's truly suffering but I'm trying to enjoy what I got right now.
>>2211838I'm not sure if this is correct for me, but I'll add some more details about my current state if that helps you give a better idea. My little sister killed herself three months ago and I've been slowly going manic and self-isolating, my parents have never been good for emotional support, I'm severely depressed, not content with my shit job, shit town, or shit society, and I've been flirting with death and have gone /out/ for long periods of time with the intent of seeing if anything could kill me so I wouldn't have to do it myself.
>>2210934This. Here (NZ) you just make sure they have your bank account info and that's literally all you have to do. The govt does the rest, then deposit's your return into your account for you. You dont even have to fill out a form.
>>2210353> More women for the rest of us I guess.Good riddence
>>2210934>Why are taxes in the USA such a pain in the ass? Not American obviouslylol
>>2209062please consider therapy anon, life is worth living despite all and if you hang on you might find happiness again
>>2211865With our fractional reserve fiat currency the banks are corrupt here. They don't actually have to give you your money if you ask for it. The government has all of our banking information and gives tax returns without you having to give it to them because the banks do it whether you want them to or not.
>>2209069French Foreign Legion probably
>>2211855Why not just become a dual sport bum. You see those guys in mountain towns in the west all the time. A backpack, a guitar to beg with, and a dual sport motorcycle. You can just check out of society and get really good at singing and playing. Just drive back and forth from nashville to denver or take the pacific highway up to alaska in the summer and down to mexico in the winter.
>>2212431Sounds awful desu
>>2212431I don't know how to drive
>>2212435Can you not play guitar or ride a motorcycle or something? Or are you an eastoid who doesn't know how fucking awesome driving highways out west is? Long distance driving is actually amazing in the west. It only sucks ass in the south and north east because it is so overpopulated and the forrest makes it boring because there are no landscapes to enjoy. I miss driving out west so much that I bought American Truck Simulator. The east sucks so fucking hard I can't wait to escape this place.
>>2212439I don't know how to play an instrument and can't drive and I live in the most dangerous city in the country so I'm not gonna be a motorist
>>2212441You sound like a uk guy to me.
>>2212439I'm not the original replier, I was just saying that his life and your advice both sound equally shitty.
>>2212500Considering he is a UK person there is absolutely no way to be happy unless he leaves the country.
>>2212445>>2212502I'm not in the uk
>>2209047Do not be scared to name the things with the real words.Forget about political correctness, you pussy.Forever alone is the politically correct term for incels.You are just an INCEL.THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST SCUM!This is it. But you are not alone. There are many like you.What relationship? Are you insane? Have you not seen how your parents fight with each other. How they hate each other?What relationship? This is all fake and artificial shit. Humans are lone predators, like cats. Because whenever there are two people , one of them is the traitor. If you have the money to travel till you die, you will be fine, my man. The problem is that most of us are born to work till we die. THis is the real prison!The lesser you live the better. The less suffering you will experience. The lucky once are those who die as kids.
>>2209062Lucky bastards you have guns.
>>2209065You can fish then you can fuck her.Good for you. Just make sure to not produce the next flesh to be a prison for some soul.I bet when you were marring that girl who you are divorced with now, I bet at the beginning you were also thinking that she is the right one.Same as this one.xDxD
>>2209068To reproduce is the worst shit one can do in this life.There is no salvation once you have produce the next living matter to suffer on this planet.Only chaste goes to heaven!!!
>>2209144That pussy is scared to use the real words.He is just an incel !
>>2212525Based ESL larper
>>2209226No, you can try to free yourself. Just do not make kids.If everybody stop making them, there will no flesh to prison souls here.It is over for the prison planet. The Demiurge will be mad and defeated!Imagine what kind of a sich motherfucker you gotta be to create a world where everybody eat each other till they get eaten and die.And everybody feels pain.The god is the ultimate villain, the true evil!
>>2209308Hope is the worst of all evil, because if drive the man to continue his agony!
>>2209308The only way to help the environment is the reduce the human population , even to extinct it.No humans, no problems.
>>2209789Imagine to climb these rocks, then you base jump from them.
>>2210067No, this would be the worst thing ever.Go alone! There is no such thing as partner. He will just backstab you. It is just a matter of time.Alone is when you are free.
>>2209649/this anon is correct. you are either faking it in church or playing along like little girls at a tea party , no one is dumb enough to actually believe that shit
>>2212528Bro we are god.
>>2210396You sound like a fucking commie, boy.In communist the whole education and health care was free of charge.Sorry motherfucker. I have a surprise for you.You were born to work and paid the death of those who lived before you.No communism for you.We destroyed it for a reason.BTW only big corporations create equality.Small business are the cancer for the system.They are those who hide and do not pay taxes, they are those who work less and produce overpriced goods.Only mass production by big business and big corporation can supply the whole population with what they need. Thus creating equality.Small businesses are greedy motherfuckers, who only want to work less and lesser and sell high and higher.Corporations for the win!Owning a property makes you anchored for life.Only problems. The free man is free to live and move whenever he wants without the hassles of dealing with property which he can not take with him once he die.Owning is stupid term.A mortal can not own anything!
>>2210715>banging fat girls on TinderYou are filthy pig! This is disgusting.THERE IS NO JOY IN FUCKING AN UGLY GIRLAND THERE IS NO HONOR IS FUCKING A WHORE!The problem is that most of the women are very ugly! This create incels and the segmentation of the middle class.
>>2209061Do not give them the paycheck. You own nothing to you parents . They made you for their own enjoyment.No you suffer.Take the paycheck with you. You will be the one who will need it the most. Once in the wilderness even a small nail can be a like finding a treasure!
>>2209185The depression is caused by lack of vitamin D.And no you can not supplement it with pills, injections from the pharmacy.No.They can not produce the real substances. Because if it a produced by the light. The light of the eye of the Almighty - the SUN!Just go into the sun. Go outside. And you will see your depression if will be gone.Have you not thought about why the bums, the homeless , who roam in the streets do not want to kill themselves? Because the light of the sun traps them here to suffer.Hide from the light to gain courage you need to break free and commit suicide.Do not go into the light! This the light of the Demiurge!
>>2212543We do not live in a capitalist system anon.
>>2210743Yeah, create the next living flesh to experience the same thing like you - getting old, getting uglier, weaker, pain, sichnes, illness, then death.Do it just so you can buy some 10 years before your child becomes teenager and start to hate you.Later you will hate it yourself.Breeders are the worst scum.They are the perpetuaters of the suffering.
>>2210941Capitalism is hte best system.People are too evil for communism.So if you do not want to pay taxes, become a CEO.Oh you cant, I forgot, you are poor.Be thankful to you poor parents. THey reproduced to perpetuate their poverty.Enjoy! And never forget to respect your parents.xDAll of your suffering is because of them.They wanted to fuck and COOOOOOM , then oh shiiiet , I am pregnant.
>>2211923Because Americans are individualistic neoliberals.They hate the state and want to live in a incivilized society where the stronger one, the richer one can do whatever he wants.The americans , they all thing they will be that guy, who can fuck everybody else and no one else is gonna be stronger and richer than them.Idiots and brain dead neoliberals.
>>2212353Enjoy being a used up goods for the rich and their state.Check if you will get any disabilities, benefits, pension when they will no longer need you , coz there will be younger than you fools willing to make the same mistake as you going into the FL.Another thing. Check if there is one kid of a rich family who joins FL.xD I wonder why they do not.
>>2212553You are delusional and stupid that you do not understand how capitalism works.WE live exactly in a capitalistic system.This is what capitalism is all about!
>>2212574Capitalism is about the free market and voluntary choices creating efficiency. This is cronyism and is where the rich steal all the wealth from the middle class through legislated monopoly and violence.
I'll be 32 in November. I haven't been in a relationship, or even on a date, in 10 years. I live in a college town, so I go to the trails and city parks, fish, camp, kayak, bike, and run, but I almost never see anyone even remotely close to my age /out/ there. Everyone is much older, professor-looking types, or 40+ with families. Existence truly is suffering.
>>2212522No the first girl I compromised with because I thought that love was. Little did I know comprising too much is having a woodpecker pecking slowly at the back of your head all day until you stop noticing it. Then years later that little annoyance is a huge gaping hole that both of you cant fix.
>>2212570I didn't ask.
>>2212744Networking is hard
>>2212554>imagine being a schizo esl faggot posterlmao you really have all the worst boxes checked dont you? Why not kys and improve everyone's life around you and also board post quality?
>>2209068>man up and get off the internet>says man larping on the internet thank you! i really trust your viewpoints and am guided by your knowledge :)!!!!!!!
>>2213369Antinatalism only works if you believe dying will end suffering and that suffering is bad. It falls apart if you believe in reincarnation, taoism, or eternal recurrence. Honestly it would be great if when you died it was over but that would be way too easy. I'll bet the second you did it god and the all would laugh at you and assure you the ride never ends. I've done psychedelics though.
>>2212570Do you honestly still not see the state as a monopoly of violence that is exactly what you are describing? You are calling slavery civility.
just got out of dating some insane lady. think i'm done with the whole relationship thing now. plus all my friendships have been quite lame and shallow so i won't miss their ending. just gonna go outside and read from here on out, work when i have to.
>>2213559>it would be great if when you died it was over but that would be way too easy>way too easy Now I think about it, you're probably right. There is no way that this world is kind enough to simply let you go with death.
>>2213880Male bonding comes from shared experiences like trips and hunting. Female bonding comes from sharing gossip. Neglect either and you will not form strong bonds.
>>2214505This is why you need to plan put hunting or kayaking trips or road trips with your friends especially once you get married.