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#406-”#405 is on Page 5 you stupid janny and it’s impossible to fine because it’s a brown bug and not a chick fishing like we have been doing for 5 fucking years and trying to post a new general when the old one is at the bump limit isn’t spamming” Edition

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>>2193907

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

New Bong Fishin Guide
https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq

First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.

Talk about fishin
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Drums & Bunz edition
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>>2200465
Florida Woman!

God Bless Gov Ron and the FL FWC
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Hopefully gonna get out his weekend with my light baitcasting setup for some chub and perch, haven't cast that thing in years so it's gonna take some getting used to
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>>2200462
God bless you kvd.

Decathlon just opened near me. Their fishing stuff actually looks kind of neat. I don't need a 12' carp rod but for 30$ I don't think I can afford not to.
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Flounder fishing today. Wish me luck finding bait
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>>2200462
I caught 20 perch with just a hook and a line, no rod, no weights.
Is this some kind of achievement? I don't know
picrel
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>>2200509
That’s bretty good, I have done that with small bluegill but they stop biting after half a dozen get pulled out
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>>2200498
What is that place?

Also I have been meaning to ask, who here frequents Cabela’s? I don’t have any nearby, but I’ve been curious what happened to them since the Bass Pro buyout. I was hoping Cabela’s would remain Cabela’s and not carry all the exact same shit as BPS.

>>2200506
Be careful, you will get B& for spamming somehow and it will be 2-4 days so you can’t appeal it
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Also this is why we started the general so there weren’t 15 threads for basic questions and waiting 3 days for a reply:

>>2200483
It probably depends on the bait. If you’re using offset worm hooks on soft baits, you might be able to try a 3/0 EWG offset hook and have better luck.

Although if 5/0 works well on that soft bait, LMB’s have giant mouths so it’s not a big deal. But if the fish feels that big metal 5/0 hook before you can set it, they will probably spit it out. If they only taste/feel the bait and not the hook, they will hang onto it
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why do I keep gut hooking bass? I use a 5" worm and 4/0 ewg hook. As soon as I feel the bite I set the hook. I fish from a slightly elevated spot (bridge that crosses the lake) could that be it? I don't want to gut hook any more bass.
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>>2200522
cabelas and bass pro are the same for the most part. bass pro MAY carry more fishing specific gear, but nothing you can't order online from cabelas. there are more cabelas than bass pro in my area, so i just go to cabelas.
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>>2200520
apparantly yellow perches are stupid then cause i puled out 20 and some i killed on accident and threw in the bushes
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>>2200522
Decathlon is an European sporting store, it has anything from shoes to glasses to tennis racquets, some have chinesium fishing stuff, cheap but also not durable.
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>>2200528
What kind of line are you using? Mono? I never really have that issue with braid because it’s real sensitive and easy to feel the bites, but maybe if you’re running mono, the fish already has the bait in his throat by the time you feel it.

>>2200535
I mean that’s sort of how they were before with all the big brands, I was wondering if the more generic store brand stuff is all the same now between the 2 stores.
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>>2200522
Man I've seen yall stabbing snakeheads for years on here but I have to ask, what do you do with the carcasses? Leave them there or throw them in the water?
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Hey I want to stealth fish, any tip so I dont get fined??
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>>2200587
Stop being a faggot and don't do it
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>>2200587
Wear hunter orange so you don't get accidentally shot.
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>>2200585
Pretty much. The raccoons and birds come and get them pretty quickly.
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>>2200462
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>>2200587
Buy a fishing lisence
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storm drain in an otherwise dry socal canyon
I see little ripples on the surface
what should I throw to see if there are any tiny fish in here?
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>>2200587
Like without a license or poaching some shit?

I always fish at places with “no trespassing” signs, most of the time it’s not a big deal. The industrial areas I’ll hit on a Sunday afternoon when it’s dead, but 75% of them don’t give a fuck during the day anyway. Residential places, you gotta feel it out, go over there with one rod and one bait and test the waters, if you go full nog and bring a lawn chair and start gutting fish on the side of the lake, you will get people complaining who would’ve left you alone if you were just casting a crankbait for 45min.
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>>2200647
one of these on 2-3# test. redworm or use the plastic.
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>>2200528
Use circle hooks
Stop using plastics, they don't degrade in the lake or in the fish's belly
Learn how to link related
https://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/through-the-gill-hook-removal/155024
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>>2200647
Tanago fishing. I really want to try doing the same thing in the rocks at the bay and stuff.
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I feel like if I just had a boat I'd have an easier time finding less pressured fish.
Is this true, or is it just a bad angler's cope?
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>>2200727
It's definitely true, but there's a lot of work and money required to maintain a boat that people who have never had one are aware of. I feel like a pedal kayak is a happy medium.
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I think I've got enough thread for a few more
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>>2200647
A #16-24 hook with a single maggot on it
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>>2200755
link me some thread on amazon that I can use to just tie some flash on hooks.
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>>2200759
https://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Tying-Bobbin-Ceramic-BasS-Saltwater/dp/B002B2K8DO/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3AMAQM1PB99M3&dchild=1&keywords=griffin+ceramic+bobbin&qid=1630608795&sprefix=griffin+ceram&sr=8-5
This is the bobbin I use

https://www.amazon.com/Danvilles-Flymaster-Denier-Thread-Black/dp/B015EM251U/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2PCEB2SCNMI6H&dchild=1&keywords=danville+fly+tying+thread&qid=1630608769&sprefix=danvill&sr=8-4
This is my go-to favorite thread
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>>2200768
Skid! When is you’re birthday? I will buy you the $6 thread
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Tips for fishing off of an elevated pier?
I worry about the integrity of my line and rod if I have to keep hauling fish a dozen feet into the air. Not to mention worrying for the fish I send plummeting down.
Am I overthinking it?
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>>2200876
Overthinking
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>>2200876
Get a drop net, easily made from a bike wheel rim or similar
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>>2200876
I don't pier fish, but people here use lobster hoops to retrieve fish and pier gaffs to get keepers.
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>>2200522
There is a Bass pro near me and a Cabela's just up the way I often stop in at. The difference is negligible. They do have slightly different stock so if you're looking for a super specific thing you need one or the other but generally indistinguishable.

The decathlon opened literally across the street from Bass pro but it's all euro gear, pike and carp stuff. I have so little time to fish these days I can't really add sitting on a chum ball for 10 hours but there's so much cozy YouTube content about it I feel like I have to try.
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4 hours fishing the shore of lake Ontario for this. And i was damn happy to catch it. I guess the water is still too warm for afternoon fishing
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>>2200522
>I was hoping Cabela’s would remain Cabela’s and not carry all the exact same shit as BPS.
They basically do. Any variation is as small as the variation between multiple BPS or multiple Cabela's.

They closed the Bargain Caves too, and enacted some fucktarded 'no dry firing used guns' policy.

Fuckem
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I’m not very good at fishing.
Any tips for using a bait caster?
Tried using one for the first time today and felt like I couldn’t cast for shit.
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>>2200945
Tension knob is set too high. It should be low enough that you backlash if you don't thumb feather.
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>>2200948
When I let the bail down the sinker gently falls to the ground without pulling out excess line.
This is not the way I want to have it set?
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>>2200945
I can think of no good reason to use a bait caster.
Come home white man, use a spinning reel.
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>>2200951
Basically this if you want distance.
https://youtu.be/q7kf4p3-ycE?t=159
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I caught a river chub
>>2200850
It's like $3 from anywhere else lol
>>2200951
I like mine looser but then you're more likely to get backlash if you fuck up. Just keep playing with the settings and casting.
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baitcasting pleb gtfo
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>>2200945
unless you are casting 60 gram + lures, you will be having a far more comfortable time using a spinning reel
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feels nice buying a busted up 30 year old reel off ebay for peanuts, tearing it down soaking cleaning relubing and getting it close to that brand new level again

shame I can't fucking CATCH JACK ALL WITH IT
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>>2200958
It's an indicator so that you can tell if other anglers are plebs or not.
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>>2200945
Don't bother. It's a meme. Honestly. You gain nothing over a spinning reel. It's all just for clout.
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>>2201019
>Don't bother
I already have it so I'll have to learn to use it.
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>>2201000
Very attractive reel. How much on the bay?
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>>2201024
Lots of them in the UK go for about £30 in working condition

A good way to see past auctions on eBay (and appraise a good price) is to look at watchcount, an extremely useful website that everyone on ebay should be using
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>>2201023
So did I, doesn't mean I have to keep using it. I spent 2 years forcing myself to use it and get good and I have nothing to show for it. Honestly fuck around with it if you want but don't take it so serious nobody cares and it won't get you more fish.
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>>2201027
http://www.watchcount.com/completed.php?bkw=Sl20sh&bcat=0&bcts=&sfsb=Show+Me%21&csbin=all&cssrt=ts&bslr=&bnp=&bxp=#serp
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>>2201027
I'm asking how much you paid, Bruv.
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>>2201032
mine was 25 and had seen only boat use (shore use would have meant lots of wear on the spool spindle from casting)
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>>2200617
You up in PSl?
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>>2200757
>>2200711
>>2200668

Thanks for the suggestions
I’ll give them a try this week and report back.
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Been trying to get into fly fishing, but as I'm buying more and more items before I've even gone once, I'm wondering what I should invest in first and foremost? I've got a good enough rod coming in the mail, as well as some flies and trout net from the fishing supply store so far.
Things like waders and wading boots are pretty costly, is it a requirement to get waist deep in the river to get any good results?
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>>2201207
IDK where you live but it's still warm enough to wet wade where I am. Maybe at least try that before buying waders. That said, waders are a nice thing to have anyway.
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>>2200960
That's what women call it when we do sex. "Catching the river chub." Hahaha jk it's been a while.
Anyway I caught some diverse panfish on the fly rod. I need to look up the law and see if I can get in these creeks and wade rather than just fish from the bridge.
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>>2200914
Why are you using a snap swivel the size of your lure
I wouldn't bite it either
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You boyz know of any European made fishing rods?
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>>2201207
all you need right now is

net
flies
rod/reel
floatant & dessicant
forceps & snips
tippet

you got this bro. good luck
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TW has 15% off sitewide for Labor Day. Time to load up.
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>>2200462
Can someone suggest a cast net of decent quality of decent lowish price.

I'm not going to be using this everyday. But I prefer for it to not instantly break.
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>>2201598
Well I guess not site wide because most big brands are excluded. Thanksgiving/Winter sale is better if you can hold off.
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>>2201432
I was the one who asked if any Abu rods were made there, they still make some of their higher end reels in Sweden but I hsve no clue about their rods. But Abu was always more about the reels historically.
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Any tips for bullhead fishing with slip sinker rigs ? My bait keeps getting stolen but no self hooking. I have had better success just letting bait soak under a bobber.
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>>2201634
Every bullhead I've ever caught I caught on an ibline spinner while targeting other fish lol
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>>2201634
>>2201669
I would get em on nightcrawlers a lot up north, sometimes worms suspended off a bobber. Haven’t seen a catfish since I came to FL.
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>>2201342
Southern Ontario, so it wont get dreadfully cold for another 2 months or so. I feel I should practice my casts before I buy more equipment though.
>>2201463
Thanks for the encouragement!
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>>2200462
>At a park pond harassing dinks with a Ned Rig on my UL that I just got back from a warranty claim
>Had middle aged black lady who was drowning chicken livers in 10 feet of water ask me if she could have a 10 inch .5lb bass I caught
>Threw it back instead because I never keep bass and that pond isn't a good enough fishery for me to be that charitable

I thought living in a rural 95% white area would allow me to avoid this stereotype, but apparently not.
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>>2201728
You're being memed. Where are you going to wade in southern Ontario? This isn't Washington state you faggot there are like 4 rivers with salmon runs and it's Ukrainians elbow to elbow drowning skein on every one
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Scaled right down to catch some small perch I could see today and ended up with a couple of these greedy bastards
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>>2201432
I think some Westin ones might be?
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>>2201898
Many small trout streams are overgrown on the banks and only fishable by wading.
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>>2201952
You're going to go on record saying you have no idea what your doing or even what gear you need to do it, and try to tell me you also know the good spots? You're probably right, you definitely need waders.
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>>2201992
I'm not the noob. I'm the one that recommended wet wading and trying out gear before buying more stuff. My point is that wading gives access to a lot of water that would not be accessible otherwise. No idea what you're even pushing back against desu
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Looks like the bones are starting to pop up.
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>>2202067
I don't know what that has to do with fishing but I'm glad to hear your dick is working
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>>2202067
You need to bury the bodies deeper anon
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>>2202077
>>2202086
Your flyover is showing
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>>2202092
>flyover
shut the fuck up urbanite
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>>2202067
tell me where, sdbro, I went to Quivira basin yesterday and saw nothing but cold water and fog
Got a consolation vina today though
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>>2202195
Me and my buddy had the kayaks in mission last night from 6 to midnight. I ended up getting 5 spottys, 3 calico, a short halibut, a sculpin and a really big yellowfin corbina. Most were in quivara. I kept metering what looked like they might hame been boneys chasing bait, but no takers. Pic is the biggest spotty I got, he was a little over 12". And not that guy, but to answer your question I think he was referencing bonito in the half day counts.
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>>2202092
Your citycuck is showing
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Tiny little bass, from a tiny little pond. (that apparently is also full of mercury).
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I can't tell if this is a big ass redfin pickerel or maybe a hybrid with a chain pickerel (if that is possible?). It's a normal (albeit big) redfin right below him
Lost several more in this branch today. The place is infested with chains and mudfish. No wonder there were so damn few panfish.
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>>2202215
Thanks for the info
Water seems pretty cold for the moment, hopefully things pick up a little bit soon
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>>2202350
Ya it was about 68 in the shallows and down to 63 in some spots.
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So, where’s your secret spot Anon?
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>>2202285
Another fish from the same area. Different pond, but apparently also full of hazardous waste.
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>>2202418
Why should I tell you?
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>>2202418
your mom's pussy
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>>2202448
We’re all friends here
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>>2202285
I stopped at a tiny pond off the side of the road one time for shits and giggles and literally got like 10 small LMB in 10 minutes. Pretty sure they can’t get any bigger in a pond the size of a swimming pool.

>>2202543
I hate everybody
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>>2202562
I fuggin love fishing in ditches and creeks that go under the road. I find them on Google earth. I'm at my friends fir the weekend. They're all asleep rn so imma slip off to feesh for a minute. Inshallah will find some pike for the fish fry this afternoon.
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If you’re not going to keep that fish can I have it?
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>>2202562
It's like that around here as well. Even the grubbiest looking drain has sunnies in it.
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Went kayak fishing for the first time today. Had a lot of fun and caught a small largemouth bass, maybe 8-9 inches long. It was the biggest fish I've caught so far so I was happy.
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Livescope is the real fuckin deal.
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>>2202696
I'm jealous desu
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1) Medium-Light, Fast
2) Medium-Heavy, Moderate-Fast
3) Heavy, Fast

Will these three cover me for the majority of techniques and baits?
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Can I use any ole feathers for some dressed hooks/trebles?
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>>2202729
The second one
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>>2202757
What? No. This isn't one or the other, this is all three. Should I be looking at another one or will this do it for most applications?
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>>2202760
Get what suits your needs. We don't fucking know where or what you're fishing for.
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>>2202765
Generalize then, faggot. I'm sure you're good at that.
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>>2202729
There's a lot more than just rod action, length is also important
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:^)
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>>2202751
I don't see why not. I have 0 experience in fly tying, maybe they coat them in some chemical that preserves them better, idk. Give it a shot cuz
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>>2202729
I do not understand this.
Ultralight master race reporting in

>>2202772
Tremendous. I love eating crappie, tho they aren't much of a fight. Is it true they taste better in the winter than summer?
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>>2202968
I loaded up on some goose biots
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>>2202346
The correct answer is that you are an absolute faggot for killing fish
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>>2202977
shut up faggot
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that cop planted meth on me. I dont do drugs.
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>>2202977
Wut
1. I eat fish.
2. Sometimes you need to cull fish out. The branch that I caught those in was absolutely overrun with chain pickerel. Sure. Chain pickerel aren't as good eating as panfish or redfin pickerel, but the predation of those chain pickerel is the reason there were so few panfish and redfin.. Therefore some of those chain pickerel needed to be culled out.
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>>2203092
My first thought was crappie but that bitch is striped. What is this? Alternatively, where was this caught, I can try to figure out the species.
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Is sdfish broken for anyone else? The login window won’t open for me. Tried multiple browsers too.
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>>2203092
>>2203111
Either a white bass or a hybrid
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Going Coho fishing in the Columbia this week, feels good man. Haven't fished at all this summer because all my spots are in the middle of forest fires and the water is too warm for trout anyway. Probly gonna bonk some surf perch too and look for panfish in a nearby lake.
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>>2203115
I only lurk and don't have a user set up. Basically a pos for taking intel but never giving any.
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>>2202977
wew lad
plenty of overpopulated ponds and lakes out there
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>>2203123
I used to be like that but sharing some reports can get you more in return
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>>2203127
I'll post it here if I get some bonitos in the coming weeks.
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>>2203132
thanks bro, I’ll do the same
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Is it worth getting into this hobby as part of living a holistic simpler lifestyle? I already grow my own veg/fruit, is walking down to my local river every week or so to catch a handful of edible fish realistic or would I be wasting my time?
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>>2203326
You can but just remember you’re not always going to catch a fish everytime so have a backup plan for a day the fish don’t bite
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Do y'all discuss watercraft, here? Just moved to WI from VA and am blown away by the amount of public land/water. Every turn is a new river or lake, it seems. I'm going to look at a Coleman 16' later today and was wondering if anyone had newbie canoer tips. Fishing would be a fun long term goal but for now I'm just trying to get out onto the water with my wife and dog before things cool down too much.
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>>2203340
What part of Wi?
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>>2203348
South Central.
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Worth hiking out to a small pond?
It's about 700x500 feet. I'm not expecting anything more than panfish, but there's only one way to find out.
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>>2203366
I’d suggest the Wisconsin river as a starting point.
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temps dropping. river water cooling off. fish starting to head up stream. it's time to salmon boys. let's go
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>>2203367
If you were a real addict, you wouldn't even have to ask that question lol. I stop and fish in drainage ditches, branches, and canals on the side of the road. If I get disbarred for trespassing I will kill myself. And yet I still take the chance. From my understanding of the law in my state I *think* I'm in the clear but who knows. Caught several redfin in a swamp on a dirt road today, put them in the freezer. Caught 2 big chains in a public creek, released them. Maybe I should have kept them. Pic related
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i got SKUNKED yesterday bros i fucking QUIT
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>>2202972
Apparently hackle is what I wanted.
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>>2203561
But did you catch the skunk?
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>>2203558
It was hot as hell a mile there and a mile back. Nice spot though, bass were everywhere. I'll have to go back with a different set up.
I'll have to try more out of the way places. We don't have many canals, but there are dozens of hidden lakes and ponds.
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No bonito today but I caught another big corvina
pushing 30 inches
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>>2203367
you will never know unless you try anon
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>>2203655
Did you hit the bait barge yet?
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SoCal storm drain Anon here (>>2200647)
got some size 30 barbless hooks and worm chunks and gave it a shot
Got 5 of these little dinklets in an hour
i found the challenge was not finding the fish or even getting them to bite, it was actually getting them to stick
Hooking them was pretty difficult, #30 was just barely small enough
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>>2203785
I just ordered some tanago hooks. They're made so that only the hook point needs to go in their mouth instead of the whole hook.
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>>2203805
Just looked them up
That shape would make a difference
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>>2203743
Not yet
Hard to stay along side a barge on a sup
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>Just realized I accidentally left a brand new bag of Coppertruese TRDs on the bank at the pond
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Which city would you say has better close-by fishing?

Wichita, KS
Oklahoma City, OK
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this little stubby thing will save your reel from rash...

Brilliant.jpeg
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>>2203904
Not being retarded does the same and free.
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>>2203878
Where is this pond?
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>>2203907
>>2203904
Theres also the right way to do it
>set rod/reel down on a rock
>reel gets lightly scuffed
>it genuinely doesnt matter because the reel still works fine
That point isnt going to save you from ingress of sand, sea water, or any other possible real damage. Instagram prop/10
>inb4 "but skid I dont wanna get scratches on my reel"
Then go put that one under a glass case and buy one you're not afraid to use.
>pic unrelated
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I’ve been spending my last few days off looking around for decent rivers to fish until my fly rod arrives in the mail.
What indicates a good spot for trout fishing, taking into account location, depth, and river width? Going up North from where I live has clearer streams, but I didn’t notice anything feeding on the mayflies. Just a few catfish in the calmer parts of the stream.
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>>2203938
Higher water quality and water about moving walking pace are good starts, then look for structure in those parts; rocks, logs, holes, seams, Eddie's. Also fish a wooly bugger near those cats and you'll probably get one.
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>>2203934
>fishes with cheap junk reels
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>>2203940
Thanks Skid, you’ve answered a lot of my newbie questions the past few weeks. I’m excited to start learning fly fishing before it gets colder, hoping I’ll have enough time to land a few nice catches.
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>>2203951
You're welcome anon. I'm sure you'll manage to catch something. Honestly, dont be embarrassed to go to a ""normal"" spot and learn by harassing bluegill.
>>2203946
Theres no reason to spend more than $200 on a reel inless you're buying somethibg for sloshing, and any reel of any reasonable quality can handle touching a rock now and then.
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Palomar knot question.
When I am trying to tie a float rig, what can I do instead of trying to pass the entire rig through the knot loop? If the rig I am making is all one piece it complicates things and I don't want to use other knots unless I have to.
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>>2200647
Half a worm on a hook and a couple split shot a couple feet down your leader, pitch that shit as far up the tunnel or as close to the mouth as you can and slowly bounce it back to you in the current and repeat.
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>>2200727
You're right anon. The more water you can cover the better.
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>>2200876
If you're catching heavy fish, you can run braid to prevent snapping your line and losing fish while pulling them up to the pier
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Catch-and-release fishing is cruelty disguised as “sport.” Studies show that fish who are caught and then returned to the water suffer such severe physiological stress that they often die of shock.Fish often swallow hooks, and anglers may try to retrieve a hook by shoving their fingers or pliers down the fish’s throat, ripping out not just the hook but some of the fish’s throat and guts as well. When fish are handled, the protective coating on their bodies is disturbed. These and other injuries make fish easy targets for predators once they are returned to the water.
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>>2201207
You're going to want to read up on the different variants of tippets and tapered leaders that will work best with the rod you bought. It can get confusing, but having the appropriate flyline for the scenarios you'll be fishing will save you lots of frustration in the long run
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>>2201634
What hooks are you using? I love catching bullheads in the summer, but they are definitely good at stealing bait. I would say use treble hooks on your sliding sinker rig to minimize losses, if you aren't already. You'll still lose fish but it definitely helps.
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>>2202696
What's the difference between live scope and any regular sounder on the market? Isn't it the same thing or can you identify fish easier?
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>>2203326
Fishing is definitely a practical holistic skill to have, but if you're really into that holistic healthy lifestyle you need to remember that not all bodies of water are equal. It might be healthy for you to eat fish out of your river/lake/whatever once a week or month, but it might not be healthy for your fishery. I.E. if you and other locals in your area keep fish out of the same body of water on a regular basis, you can stunt that fisheries ecosystem. There's lots of responsibility and ethics you should consider when keeping fish. Are the fish you're keeping wild or invasive? Are you keeping spawning fish that would have spread good genetics to the future populations if they'd been released? Keep these things in mind.
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>>2204102
The scan rate for the transducer is like 30 Hz, it's really crazy, you can see your line in the water as well as your lure/bait.
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>>2203938
It's all about reading the water. There's plenty of good books (and the entire internet) on the subject. Here's some key words when talking about moving water that you should learn to identify when looking at rivers and creeks; seams, buckets, eddies, pocket water, back eddies, cutbanks. These are all features that could hold fish, and being able to identify them will help you know where to cast. There's a million other nuances to fly fishing from matching bug hatches, knowing when to fish either floating or sinking flies/line. But knowing where to cast is a good start.
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>>2204116
Thanks anon, that makes sense. I've seen a lot of positive feedback about livescope, I'll have to try it out.
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>>2204092
I've seen 1 trophy trout cought 7 times in 4 years. It's always a little bigger everytime it gets caught. I've personally released him four times and each time he swam off vigorously. When practicing ethical fish handling (very little time out of the water, never holding fish by the gills, using rubber nets instead of old school string nets to prevent tangling and wrapping) catch and release is proven to be successful. Casualties do occur, in which case if you can retrieve the dead fish after an unsuccessful release, or know that a fish won't survive a release, by all means harvest and eat it. But don't ostracize catch and release just because it's not 100% humane. Promote proper and ethical fish handling to the uninformed fishermen out there so we can mitigate unethical releases and preserve our fisheries for as long as possible.
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>>2204092
Kill every fish I catch, got it.
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>>2204051
That's all you can do. If I have a large or complex rig, I just tie an improved clinch knot.
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>>2204092
based
I boof every single fish I catch
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>>2201786
asians always ask for fish here.

>>2204102
look up panoptics echo mapping from garmin..
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>>2200462
https://youtu.be/RakDzNA2Hug caught this snapper with fried chicken.
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>>2204092
> Studies show that fish who are caught and then returned to the water suffer such severe physiological stress that they often die of shock.
depends on the type of fish, type of hook, length of fight, length out of water, etc etc, way too many factors to generalize. plus other show lip-hook and release in water has a very high survival rate.
>.Fish often swallow hooks
not really if you're sport fishing
> anglers may try to retrieve a hook by shoving their fingers or pliers down the fish’s throat, ripping out not just the hook but some of the fish’s throat and guts as well
not often with catch and release
> When fish are handled, the protective coating on their bodies is disturbed
true, they should not be handled with bare hands or dropped on the ground
> These and other injuries make fish easy targets for predators once they are returned to the water.
depends
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>>2203785
nice gambusia. Do you guys get easterns out there? I'd imagine that they were stocked at some point
>>2203655
nice catch anon
>>2203367
it's always worth it to check out new spots
>>2203326
No. Don't come into it thinking it turns every body of water into your grocery store.
>>2203092
small hybrid
>>2200914
>that giant snap for what appears to be a small shrimp soft plastic
wtf are you doing anon
>>2200876
yes, you are overthinking it, but if you are targeting larger fish it'd definitely be in your best interest to invest in a drop net
>>2204092
I don't believe that people can be this retarded. Disregarded as bait
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finally got a plaice after what, 4 sessions?

Delicious
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>>2204460
What happened to its head or is that where you dispatched it?
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>>2204463
I am not too familiar with dispatching plaice so I just stabbed around with a knife, the poor thing.
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>>2204464
Looks like a pretty good estimation of where the brain is. I absolve you
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Oh snap, yft showed up the first day they went back offshore. Almost like they know something we don't.
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>>2204504
What is this ?
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>>2204504
What's more preferred, bft or yft?
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>>2204506
Early reports on fish counts for the day for one of the San Diego sport boats. If you aren't familiar with how it works around here, the landings post counts and species caught every day that help customers plan their trips. Also it drives sales pretty hard, especially for that boat, it's the best full day boat and sells out months ahead of time in the summer.

>>2204511
Personally I think bft edges out yft barely when it comes to table fare, but the style of fishing is different in our fishery. Bft is a lot more hit and miss, but you have 200lb+ fish in the mix. Yft around here are mostly schoolie size with 50lbers being the biggest you can expect, most are 10-20lb and easier to get a school to stick with the boat. This is just in my experience though and I've only been going out on the sportboats for like ~5 years. I know there's some other guys in here that might know more.
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>>2204517
I have no clue what goes on out there other than its probably a bad time if you're on a full day and only get rockfish. Is this about the time YFT picks up or are the numbers super low? BFT numbers already passed last years'.
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Added a galvan brookie to the shit show line up.
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>>2204565
Pretty anon
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>>2203976
I don't think I've spent over $15.00 on a reel, but I buy at pawn shops or yard sales. Got a half dozen or so of these Mitchells.
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I am king of salt water cats. It’s all I catch. I groan every time i reel one of these in. Better than getting skunked.
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Going to get in to fishing this fall/next spring. Just picked up a few rods and wanted to see if any of it is decent. Lake fishing in northwest Wisconsin is the goal

5’6” 2-8 lb ultra light spinner from shimano

6’6” 6-17 lb medium light abu Garcia Without a reel

5’6” 8-15 lb daiwa with a low profile reel

5’ 6-12 lb shimano closed reel

2x 4’6” 2-6 lb ultra light Shakespeare micro closed reel ultra

5’6” bass pro shop 4-12 pound medium fast with closed reel

6’6” 6-12 pound medium light daiwa spinner
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>>2204642
I'm usually buying used stuff, it really depends on how they've been treated.
The names are good, Shimano rarely made a really BAD rod, but Diawa had some cheapies in the 80's. Late Garcia could be clunky as well. Pics would help.
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>>2204642
If a closed reel is what you call a spin cast reel then immediately ditch the whole combo and swap for a similar spec rod with a spinning reel. Otherwise sounds like you've got it pretty well sorted.
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>>2204705
I try to keep a Zebco 202 or 33 around, just as loaners. You can pick them up cheap/free, and they are often just full of dead grease and sand. Some TLC and they are serviceable again.

I also have an old 60's Shakespeare spincast I occasionally use, because it's classy, and mounted on a matching rod.
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I have a 6' ultralight fast action rod spooled with 6 pound mono.
My local waters are almost all thick with vegetation and have good panfish populations.
What kind of rig should I put on it?
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>>2204716
Bobber with a trout magnet jig head and a gulp minnow.
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The rivers I’m fishing right now for rainbow trout also have salmon around this time of year. The rod I’m using isn’t suited for landing a huge salmon, so on the off chance one takes my fly, is my line bound to snap? Or are salmon less eager to take a smaller nymph?
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>>2204726
thanks, I'll give it a try.
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>>2204680
>>2204705
Sick. Gotta get these strung and on the water
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>>2204770
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>>2204772
Those all look fine to me. But like I said, I buy yardsale/used almost exclusively.

Here's my baitcast collection. The one to the left is an older Pfluger, the rest are Abu, the middles are older Ambassadeurs.
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>Dad got mad at me yesterday because I took a saw to his cane pole in order to make it shorter.
>I was gonna get metal wire and make line holder out of it, then duct tape a spinner real on the bottom.
>He hasn't talked to me since.

I'm sorry dad :(
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>>2200468
sugar cane industry can fuck off
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>>2204328
don't put the fish on concrete, you fucking degenerate. What do you think you are, a god? you hold the fish with your hands like a man.
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>>2204841
The only time he holds fish is on a fork
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>>2204835
Why would you do that?
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>>2204550
I think the bft season was longer and yft is starting late, but every year is different. A few years ago I got yft in mid november.
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>>2204106
Just read this, I didn't think of that. I think I'll keep animals instead.
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>>2204844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNfxyRcxls&t=355s I don't see a fork bud.

>>2204328
Shut up liberal.
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>>2204625
That's because you don't know how to Fish Saltwater Stop fishing the bottom in the summer time you can u feet above the bottom to avoid them and also void using smelly dead bait. You've a better chance using a a bobber and some leader to fish in the middle of the water current. the bottom normally contains trash fish. You could also try using line to line with live bait and letting your bait go with the water follow and let top water fish go for the bait. This is the main reason I started my fishing channel is to teach people how to fish but right now I'm trying to doing from the basics up not have a bunch of mixed ups. I kinda wanna do it like you'd go from Pre-K to like College kinda teaching so how to get the license the tackle to use the bait how to setup every thing from the type of fishing ect..
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>>2204857
To make daddy proud
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>>2204565
Lmao why would you spend so much on a reel for trout it’s just a glorified line holder. You buy a nice reel once you start catching real fish not minnows.
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>>2204976
As someone who has never fished for trout I have some strong opinions and a question:
1. Using a fly rod for large species (tarpon, catfish, etc) is inexplicably cringe for some reason.
2. Fishing for trout with anything other than a fly rod seems vulgar.
3. Only white people and the Japanese should be allowed to fly fish, maybe fish at all, because thus far those are the only 2 groups that seem to be decent stewards of the land/wildlife. Tbh the Japanese should probably be on a probationary period anyway.
4. I would like someone to explain to me why it is necessary to stock trout in streams. Are that many taken out of the water by non-whites? Or are those streams not conducive to permanent, year round trout populations?
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What do you guys think of Chinese reels? I got a cheap collapsible rod off of Aliexpress that didn't come with a reel. I want to use it for salt water fishing off a pier. I was thinking of originally trying to find a good deal on a used reel locally, but anything that is cheap is cheaper new at walmart than what the boomer selling it wants. I was thinking of getting this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001298580110.html), the 2000 one. Is there any reason I should go higher? The rod is 2.1m.
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>>2205042
I think it's gonna be rough fishing off a pier with a collapsible rod. What length is it and what is it rated for? Saltwater puts a lot of wear on your gear, I'd save and get an older reel from one of the big 3, shimano, penn or daiwa. An older Spinfisher, Slammer or BG will serve you better amd last longer
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>>2205000
>never fished for trout
opinion discarded
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>>2205000
>Or are those streams not conducive to permanent, year round trout populations?
Either the water suffers from summer die-off because it doesn't stay cool enough or it lacks good spawning beds.

The first is called a "put and take" fishery and there's no point in releasing the fish, unless you wouldn't want to eat them, and in the second, released fish might grow larger to be caught later, but loss to deep hooking or to natural predation by other fish and birds and stuff means that the population needs to be periodically replenished.
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>>2205046
The length is 2.1m (approx. 7 ft). To be honest, I didn't look at how much weight it can take or the action, but the seller claims that it can support up to 3kg without breaking. At the price it was, I just figured that if it breaks I can just look for something better. I have a Daiwa Dshock reel that a friend let me borrow on it currently, but I hadn't even had the opportunity to try it out yet since the one day I had set aside ended up being stormy. I guess I'll just keep my out at flea markets, yard sales, etc. because my local FB marketplace or Craigslist is filled with Chinese reels being sold with a steep markup, stuff that's too high end, or something that I can buy cheaper new.
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>>2204976
I buy what I like and I fish for more than just trout my dude.
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>>2205137
That seems a bit too light for most saltwater use.
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>>2205046
> I'd save and get an older reel

Agreed, they seem to be easier to keep working.
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>>2205000
>Japanese
>decent stewards of the land/wildlife
stupid mutt
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How often do you go fishing?
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This many for $7. Did I get bamboozled by the changs on Amazon or is that about normal?
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If I catch some panfish and kill them and toss them in a plastic bag in my backpack... How long will they last before spoiling? Think on a 70 degree day in the NE.
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>>2205251
Just pack a lunchbox cooler with some ice bro. They're much easier to clean when they're on ice too
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>>2205184
I think the nips are different in that dept from the chinks. If you think about it they've been stuck on an island for how many thousands of years and they still have all of that pristine nature. If they weren't decent stewards they would have a desolate shithole ala Haiti.
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https://youtu.be/vXGR9H1TMOQ
cutest shit i ever seen
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>>2205251
take an ice block with you and it will help
how long will they last? who knows until you actually start to eat it
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>>2204857
didn't know what a cane pole was :(
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>>2204092
Oh vey it's anudda holocaust
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>>2205243
7 is a lot for Chinese knockoff strung hackle the color will probably run when it gets wet. You can get the uv2 strung hackle for the same price.
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>>2205168
Ya man gonna get some monster bluefish on a 4-5 reel that will really test your drag.
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>>2205394
I'm sure but I wouldn't use the 5wt.
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>be me
>fishing at a floating dock
>see fish floating in cove
>one area of the dock was broken by Ida
>part of it has a puddle because it's in the water
>fish for about 2 hours
>catch some small fish (yellow perch and some sunnies)
>fish floats into a little puddle on the dock
>catch a nice 2 pound largemouth
>about to leave
>fish still floating in puddle
>decide to push the fish into the water onto the other side of the dock
>push fish off the dock
>swims away
I even stayed for about 5 full minutes to see if it would float back up, but it didn't.
There's a fucking zombie fish in that lake bros.
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Are small streams harder to fish than wider streams?
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>>2205440
I would say yes, because you're more likely to spook the fish as you approach.
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>>2204092
I'd believe you, except every single fish I've caught, unhooked tossed in a bucket and eventually put in an aquarium has lived. I have some sunnies in a fish-pot that are three years since catch. When they get a bit bigger I'll move them into a larger pond.

Unless you're proposing some kind of long term fish PTSD, if you're not a total mong the fish don't care.
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NV anon here. Any good spots here is a fucking trek. What are some good cheap telescopic rods you all recommend?
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>>2205460
You could just get a two piece rod and break it down then put it in your backpack.
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Anyone got any experience using live shrimp? I used them recently but the pins will pick them clean the moment they hit the water like piranhas. Does that just come with the territory, or is there a way to avoid that? Freelining's the way to go with these, right?
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>>2201786
So did you bleach that b****
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how it started
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how it went
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how it ended
(fish from last week)
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>>2205579
1.) Yes, I hooked him in the face
2.) No, I will never buy another orvis product again
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>>2204625
bullhead?
at least you didn't gut hook him

I used to use bullheads as cut bait to catch more bullheads
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>>2205541
What are you trying to catch? Maybe drop shot or c rig to sink the shrimp past the bait stealers
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>>2205460
Get a 3 or 4 piece travel rod instead. There are situations where I wish I had a telescoping rod such as jumping from pool to pool in a small creek where I wish I could collapse the rod fully rigged and pull it out ready to go but the quality of a good 4 piece rod is much higher.
>>2205440
I think smaller creeks are easier, the shallow water makes structure more apparent and easy to target
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What does it mean when I am catching non-stop dinks but nothing more than a couple inches long? Probably caught 20 perch and bluegill yesterday but nothing remotely worth taking.
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>>2205682
Try using a larger hook so that small fish can't take it in their mouth. Either that or the larger fish are in a different part of the water body.
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>>2205440
Smaller streams are much easier
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>>2205673
I've got a 4 piece St Croix Triumph, I keep it rigged when I take it down. It's not hard to do.
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>>2205580
This is cool. What do you do with the dried fish? Is it like a jerky to snack on?
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>>2205708
Not that guy, but looks like he "smoked" it in the dehydrator. The consistency will be the same as smoked salmon.
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hi friends, its been a long time. haven't been srsly fishing in a while, but here is some of my recent work this year. delaware bay off of NJ. these slobs are always a good time.
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>>2205798
3/3
yes im a manlet. just makes my fish look bigger. this bertha was probably my personal best in sheer size but not weight. ~65lbs but she had potential to be a lot heavier. all fish were cleaned and eaten. thanks for giving me a platform to post again.
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https://youtu.be/nnkDkf7KVas
Uploaded another video, catching my first flatfish
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>>2205800
I wouldn't recommend eating those giant black drum anon, they are the workhorses of spawning and keeping the population healthy. I bet those fish are 40 years old. Regardless though, damn nice
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>>2205812
the small ones taste better anyway. but rn the keeper law is three per person per day. they are ridiculously populated apparently. and every year its been a rodeo for the past like 5 years. im very much about preservation because my father and grandfathers generation of fishing destroyed fishing for us today around here.
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>>2205817
Fair enough bro
Greetings from the Carolinas!
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What the fuck did I catch?
Face of a trout, but I've never seen them so... white. Rather small fins, too.
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>>2205824
Bluefish
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>>2205826
I don't believe you.
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>>2205830
What's your location? Lithuania?
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>>2205824
Looks like some sort of sea run trout
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>>2205831
Yes. Curonian Lagoon.
Fins don't match those of a Bluefish.
Looks to me more like Atlantic salmon.
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>>2205833
Yeah you're right, they don't
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>>2205826
Definitely not a bluefish, it's a salmonoid of some sort
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>>2205822
good shit man!
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sdbay anon here
didn’t see any bonito in the south bay
but I got another chunky corvina
still can’t log into sdf
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>>2205860
Have you tried clearing your cookies for the site?
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>>2205860
I don't think pier fishing for them will be that hot this year. I haven't been out yet but they were already catching them mid August last year from reports/videos. Maybe a later start? I think the bite was decent through at least mid Oct.
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I'm looking for a casting rod that can throw 1/16oz or 1/8oz lures 80+ feet. I can't find many American made casting rods with light power. The closest I could find are pic rel but these are listed as "trolling rods". Would a trolling rod still be suitable for casting those distances? They are meant to be used in a downrigger, so would the action be too soft for casting lures?
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>>2205923
BFS? Specifically American made: A few Kistler models have 1/16 lower ends. $200+.
Quite a few JDM but $$$.
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>>2205862
I'm gonna assume it worked
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>>2205862
>>2205964
site doesn’t work on Firefox or iOS safari, even with clearing website data
Switched to Brave and it started working again
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>>2205934
>BFS?
Yeah.
I'm trying to put together a setup for under $200 with a KastKing Zephyr. I think I've already convinced myself to go with the LX 702 ULC. It seems to be the same blank as the light fast action spinning rods Lami sells even thought this rod get marketed for trolling.
Thanks for putting me onto Kristler though.
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>>2205923
Unless the terminology has changed, "trolling rods" tend to be on the heavy side, sometimes with roller guides.
The description in that ad is kind of shitty, and sounds like a normal rod, not a rig I'd run with a downrigger for bay lakers or similar.
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Hey ya'll. Looking to buy a setup tomorrow. I'll mostly be fishing in creeks around me so it will be panfish and bass. Some of the creeks are also downstream from lakes that contain muskie and walleye. I plan on getting anything from 4-6lb rod and reel. Probably a 5'6" or a 6ft seems to be the recommended for creeks. As for lures I plan on picking up some spinners, spinning grubs, trout magnets, and hellgrammites. I'm going to a local fishing store so I'll also see what they say. One thing I'm not sure of is what line I should use. Braid with a leader, mono, or flouro? Anything I should change about what I plan on buying for rod/reel and lures? Just want to ask some people before I go out and waste money.
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>>2205243
Second and first attempts at some dressed hooks. Don't know what I'm doing. Also definitely not how to use biots but mackerel are retarded and might eat it on a sabiki.
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>>220609
"Kokonee trolling rods" seem to just be long slow light casting rods. I guess cause kokonee are smaller?
https://www.kokaneetackle.com/c-273-rods.aspx
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>>2206072
Sub $200 bfs is gonna be hard to do. I tried to put together an affordable setup a few years back and realized it wasn't gonna happen and just bought a spinning setup. Casting at the bottom end of a light casting reel was miserable even in calm weather.
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>>2206169
because you want the give of a slow action rod when trolling soft mouth fishes...
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>>2203025
This is 100% accurate. One of my favorite local spots is a small lake that used to have trophy trout in it year round. About 30 years ago someone introduced LMB and they have been in competition ever since. I don't like eating bass and rarely ever keep them, but this is one of the only lakes I do keep bass out of, just to balance the ecosystem for the benefit of the trout
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>>2205673
I think the whole world over generalizes shit that should be judged objectively and individually. Every single body of water is different. There are small creeks that regularly produce fish on every cast, and there are small creeks that harbor very few fish but the fish that are there exceed expectations as far as physical proportions are concerned. Same goes for all lakes and ponds etc. No matter the size of body of water, the size of fish and fish populations always boils down to a few variables. Those being; original source of brood stock (in layman's terms, where the current resident species of fish came from), the amount of available food resources such as bait fish or insect populations, and population control.
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>>2206191
What was your setup?
I'm looking at:
>Kastking Zephyr BFS Reel $85
>LX702ULC | 7' 2-6lb $80
The rod is rated for 1/16oz to 1/2oz so I'm hoping I can at least cast 1/8oz lures a decent distance.
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>>2206129
I'd just use some mono, I personally just buy the cheap zebco mono from Walmart
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>>2206208
Tf is that knot, lol
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>>2206426
Can't tie a knot? Tie a lot
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Just moved to eastern nc close to the coast. Need some hobbies and want to get into fishing here. I have 0 knowledge about fishing sounds/beaches. Does anyone have a good channel I could follow or forums? Would I be best to just to a local tackleshop and talk to them? Looked into it and it seems a lot of people fish off kayaks here. Anyone do that?
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>>2206487
Fish for sharks in Hatteras
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>>2206488
Hatteras is a good 4 hour drive from me. I'm near Wilmington. I think they have ferries that run there but it's still a long trip. From what I have seen people catch sharks at the beaches here as well.
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I have often heard people say don't use long rods for kayak fishing because its hard to cast. After trying it out, casting is not an issue at all. The real issue is if you get line wrapped around the tip section it is a total pain in the ass to reach and fix while in the yak.
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Hey brehs, is there any website where I can buy a fishing rod besides amazon. I'm tryna buy a Uglystick Gx2 combo and amazon wont ship that shit within a month
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>>2206520
Just get it at walmart like every other brainlet with an ugly stick
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>>2206129
Hey boys I'm back. I got my setup and a couple lures but one thing I have a question on is the guy at the fishing shop recommend 8-10lb line for me when I was gonna put 6lb on there. Will that effect my fishing at all? I'm just gonna be in a creek but they can't be that big can they?
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>>2206547
IME people tend to fish a lot heavier than they need to.
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>>2206547
>I'm just gonna be in a creek
Well I'm the guy that recommended the cheap zebco line. I'd just put 4lb line on there because you most likely won't catch anything bigger than 2lbs. Most will only weigh a few ounces. You will cast farther and fish will be less likely to see the line
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>>2206547
With a balanced setup and a properly set drag 6lb will handle most fish you come across and will be a lot more manageable and easy casting, I rarely use anything above 3lb
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>>2206520
Bass Pro, Cabela's and Dick's Sporting Goods all have online sites.
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Do catfish like lakes or do they mainly stay in places with flowing water?
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>>2206570
Both
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>>2206555
Good shit. Thanks
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>>2206487
>nc close to the coast
I have experience fishing out there. What's your budget for fishing gear?
>>2206520
Literally anywhere that sells fishing gear.
Go on to google maps and type "bait and tackle shop" then follow the directions it gives you to get there.
>>2206547
Heavier line affects casting distance and lure action, thinner line casts farther. You'll be fine with 6.
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>FRESH BREAD
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>>2206605
>making a new thread while this one is on page 2
1-800-come-on-now
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>>2206570
Channel catfish tolerate current very well, only other freshwater species that tolerate it better are trout and smallmouth. Bullheads on the other hand don't like current and are normally in still water.
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>>2206494
Hey Wilmington bro, I'm in CB. Got a burner email or discord? I just got off the water
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Can you fish from the rocks on really rough tides? Tried it today and had to go home because of losing tackle but the fishing app I was using said it was the best time of the day for fishing.



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