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How is /out/ cooking inawoods these days? Post setups and favourite dishes.
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>>2184759
usually my collapsible wood stove, but also a little foldy fuel tab stove
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>>2184784
more kot plz
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>>2185191
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>>2184784
Found a picture of when I first got the wood stove
gets water and soup to a roaring boil very fast
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>>2185197
kot dose sippy
Cute cat btw I really want a black cat but for some reason my shelter is close for adoption
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>>2185208
rip I close my tab so different number lel
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>>2184759
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>>2185222
based, just scooped one of these from walmart for 30$, how well do they work with cast iron?
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>>2185241
how heavy are they ?
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Coffee and Cookie cannot be beaten. Cookie is high in protein and can be eaten anytime with no preparation, Coffee is dogshit and very strong but a good campfire ritual. That's basically the extent of my outdoor food repertoire, although I've cooked burgers and eggs on >>2184766 when car camping with family.
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>>2185243
I have an older two burner model and it's really fucking heavy but great if you're just mucking around the campsite. Otherwise if you're backpacking you'll probably want to go with something like pic related and a small can of fuel.
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>>2185243
>>2185255
checked and what this anon said, the coleman is pretty light, its all stamped aluminum, but purely volume wise its not ideal for backpacking. got it for car camping and i have a pocket stove for innawoods
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>>2185258
I want to go camping for about 3 days but I have no idea how long the bottles last. im probably gonna get something like this. my friend wants to get coleman for cooking instead
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>>2184759
Really depends on what I am doing. I generally bring overnight oats. Eat it in the AM and add water and fat to the PM pouch. On the way I eat packaged food for snacks and generally bring a big ass bag of popcorn w/ chili powder.
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I have a jetboil and prefer to eat house. House doesn't pack great, but the weight savings and easy cleanup are a huge plus.
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>>2185274
>but I have no idea how long the bottles last.
Depends on your usage. Trial and error is really the only way to find out. Pack food that you can eat cold, or an extra gas bottle or two, and figure it out. I'd say an 8oz can like that would likely be good for a couple people for a few days, doing typical backpacking fare.

But if you're intending to use it as a car camping stove, I'd go with a Coleman propane two burner. Car camping with backpacking gear is miserable. You have the space and weight capacity for luxury, and car camping gear is usually cheaper than backpacking gear, too.
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>>2184759
the gas canisters in OP pic, you can get them for free at hotels and backpacker's hostels.
guests drop half~2/3rd's full ones off at reception all the time but it costs too much to get them properly disposed off so they usually have a few hundred of them collecting dust in a cupboard somewhere.
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>>2185355
thx for the info im probly just eat fish or spam with moslty cold food
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>>2185358
thx for pro tip
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>>2184759
I use either a MSR whisperlite universal or windburner duo to heat my peak refuel, good to go, or Patagonia foods.
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>>2184759
My favourite dish is whatever mush I’m carrying, but the award goes to the tomato pasta with parmesan cheese I had on the 5th day of my last trip.
Here is my kitchen setup. I’ve thought about adding a food cup to it so I could boil coffee/tea water as I eat.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLAiByJenD_2e2CAExoU9cw
I like his simple recipes.
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I bought a gassifier stove off amazon last week. I've tried it out in the garden and i'm pretty impressed.
I threw some junky wood in it and topped it off with cardboard scraps and the thing took off like a champ. literally no smoke at all. I used, probably, two handfuls of sticks about the size length and thickness of my finger. It cooked my meal easily with enough to sit around to enjoy the warmth and light for a while.
The reviews said it's a pain to add fuel as you have to add it from the top but it's no issue at all if you have more than three brain cells.
I'm looking forward to getting some proper use out of it and not having to suffer the canister jew anymore.
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>>2186749
>>2185200
it's really not a pain, there's a side hole too
unless those dumbs in the reviews were trying to add pinecones
based woodstove
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>>2186756
Mine doesn't have a side hole. But I went for the cheapest I could. About £20 It's the lixada (or something).
If it holds up and proves itself to be decent in the real world then I would have no problem buying a more expensive version.
This one rattles and the pot holder ring is a but janky. It would be nice to get one that is a bit more of a polished version but I frankly don't care too much about it.

I've not tried pinecones in it. finding out what is good and bad for it will be interesting.
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>>2185241
Not to bad. I'm past all the bullshit of jetboils and back pack camping all the time. Broke both my knees so I can't t
Do it like I use to. Works perfectly for mucking around.
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>>2184759
Boil water in jetboil, mix ramen and boiling water in ziploc bag, use the good brand of ramen. Add instant mash potatoes, and cubed up spam. Great meal, but it’s a lot of sodium so drink plenty of water
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>>2184759
any know of some good plates/bowls/cutlery that isn't plastic that packs smallish?
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>>2187357
Titanium fren, strong but pricey.
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Has /out/ heard of this stove?

I'm thinking of getting it so I can charge my phone/light etc and so I don't have to carry a bottle of fuel around?

It's kind of pricey for what it is, but I haven't seen anything else like it.

I currently own a whisperlite.
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>>2187392
>so I can charge my phone/light etc
Do you plan to keep a fire going long enough for any meaningful charging?
I think that's something people forget to consider when they buy one of those.
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>>2184784
NO DONT COOK THE CAT no no no NO
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>>2187454
she provides
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>>2185610
nice mug what anime is it from?
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Is coleman fyrepower any good? I've been looking at poorfag options but given that most gas stoves look identical it's hard to make a decision.
It's only fifteen quid.
>>2184784
>>2185197
Very cool!
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>>2185252
I like that cookie as my second favorite variety, but have you tried the apple pie flavor? They carry the brand at Wally World, but rarely have the apple, so I always check when I'm out of town and stock up if I'm lucky.
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>>2187636
Holy shit they make an apple pie version? I fucking love apple pie, will check up on this. Thanks dude.
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>>2187549
Looks like a character from The Moomins
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>>2187392
it's a meme, don't waste your money
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>>2187549
It's Snufkin from Moomins.
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>Get an alcohol cooker as a gift, just like the ones my family used as a kid
>Try to cook dinner
>Keeps putting itself out
>Literally two hours later and the food is barely lukewarm
>Methylated spirits not even half gone
What gives? Was I using the wrong kind of alcohol? Are these things just completely pointless now that jetboils exist? I was hoping it would be a safer option, since I'm really not fond of pressurised fuels.
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>>2185197
>>2184784
Do cats not run off when you bring them camping?
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>>2187756
Trangias work great.
Was on a trip two weeks ago where a friend brought one and it worked just fine.
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>>2187756
I quite often use a beer can stove with meths if I'm travelling light and it works fine as long as you protect it from the wind
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>>2184784
Hey Steve1989 off of MREInfo.com, where'd you score that mess cup? I'm interested in one I can cook and serve from.
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>>2187775
Yugoslavian mess kit
got mine off kommandostore because they give you the utensils that come with the pouch, unlike other places that charge more and don't
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This looks interesting
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>>2184759
In cast iron over a campfire, cooking game with vegetables and red wine, the french way. this is how I spend winter nowadays with my friends.
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>>2187866
The knife has a can opener on it? What a bit of kit. Cheers!
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>>2187756
>Was I using the wrong kind of alcohol?
Shouldn't be that, those things work pretty fine with any kind of alcohol, heck I sometimes use 70% rubbing alcohol in mine.
And most people on the internet swear by methylated spirits on Trangias.

Too much wind so it kept going out?
Did you let it heat up for a minute or so to let it bloom before putting the pot over it?
Dunno anon.
I can tell you they work, might not be the most wonderful high tech thing ever, but they work.

>Are these things just completely pointless now that jetboils exist?
Kinda.
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>>2185200
That one was my 1st wood stove but i switched to the titanium toaks one because its too big and heavy for backpacking. The larger one is great for having a small contained campfire though. I keep it in my truck.
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>>2187756
Use heet or fondue fuel or everclear
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>>2185528
>Patagonia anything

What kind of lube do you use before you take a cock up that yogurt loving chalk hole you call an ass??
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>>2188647
>Patagonia anything
I think it has nothing to do with the other Patagonia (Inc.)
It's just a shitty food company founded by some jew, smartly riding the coattails of the world known company with a similar name.

Unless your problem is that you hate Argentinians (or Chileans) and as such are extremely triggered by the name Patagonia, of the geographical region.
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>>2188037
Aye, and the three I have are all very sharp.
It's a good one- unfortunately it seems like alot of people just strip the kits of them and sell separate because the kits without them are more common now than complete
Get while able, friend
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>>2184759
cast iron and open flame
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>>2188647
They sell nice salmon and muscles for shorter trips or for luxury items on longer ones.
Also the r1 pants are great for winter layering.
>>2188674
Oh no its owned by the clothing people, its just an easy way to get decent canned fish no matter where I am.
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>>2188746
>its owned by the clothing people
It is?
Then fuck them. The other anon was completely right.
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>>2184766
yummy! sodium and water
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>>2186749
>>2186756
>>2186839
I'm looking at a gassifier stove atm too (vs a folding firebox type thing) and the smokeless vibe of it sounds good... but the pack volume makes me dubious if the gassifier is worth it compared to how flat fireboxes are.
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>>2188921
>smokeless vibe
Yup, the word vibe is officially meaningless now
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This gassifier stove has been my go to for the past three years. Recently got a new butane stove to see how it feels but I don't like how noisy butane stoves are
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>>2184759
cheap and light. I've had it for a few years and it hasn't shit the bed yet
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>>2186749
>>2188921
>>2188958

I took my bad boy out this windy, rainy day.
Overall the gassifier worked alright. I kept it sheltered and admittedly it was a bit more of a pain to get going than I would have liked! (still getting the hang of lighting it the optimal way). I took some nice dry wood with me as I knew the weather was going to be grim. If I were on a long trip relying on my surroundings I could see wet wood being an issue, but not today. It takes a bit longer to boil a pan of water than a jetboil or whatever but if you're not pressed for time you're not going to mind. Once you've set up camp you have as much time as you'd like.
It's not even that much of a difference in footprint size to the canister setup I've been using for years (big coleman gas). folded up it takes up even less space than the canister.

Overall it was fine. It smokes a bit I must admit, I think having the pan on top interrupts the gasification a tad. But that is probably this cheapo model. It's nothing like having an open fire though it's barely noticeable.

Picrel is the stove family out today
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>>2189767
NGL that's way smaller than I expected it to be. What model is it? Is it the cheepo ones we see on Amazon?
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>>2189776
not him but I am >>2185200
it takes down and stores inside it's self reasonable well for the size it ends up being
any smaller and you would have to baby it with wood constantly to keep it going
There were posts in a previous cooking thread about home made stoves of this type using cans of varying widths, I will find it
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>>2189783
for example
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>>2189776
>Is it the cheepo ones we see on Amazon?
Yes
It's a Lixada the cheapest I could find on Amazon.
The downside to it is the pot holder ring is janky and I think it spoils the gasification when in use. If at some point it gets broken or worn out or whatever I would go for a model like >2189783 The pot ring looks more substantial, will work as a wind break and the added stand off may improve performance. I was actually looking at that one but worked out I could also get the spirit stove with the green holder (in previous pic) with the money I had. for the 2 stoves I paid no more than £30.

I can't say much against my Lixada, I like it, but if you have a bit more budget I think long term you will appreciate going up a price tag or two. Or if you're /diy/ upgrade the rivets and make some sort of windbreaker (I'm thinking of doing this).

>>2189783
Haxamine bro
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>>2187392

Get yourself a ratcheting pruning shear so you can quickly and easily cut up a bunch of sticks, (do this BEFORE you start the fire) as the blower fan in BioLite stove will cause you to go thru a lot of fuel,
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>>2187896
>>2187897
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I’ve been using the same Supercat for about five years but probably tried a dozen different wind screens before settling on the one I’m currently using. I haven’t stepped on it yet.
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has anyone tried these type of pour over coffee makers seems lihtweight?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184937113855
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>>2190210
Funny you post this I have given up carrying the meme axe in favour of a folding garden saw and pair or good secateurs. I find it's just more efficient than smashing away with an axe or meme battoning your knife.

>>2190213
I do like these
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>>2187392
AvE did a teardown of this.
https://youtu.be/PYYw1cYS8o8
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>>2189079
I got that for my first gas burner. Also got this adapter for more fuel options. Still have yet to try them out. I can't wait till it starts getting cooler.
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>>2191465
This is genius! Thank u
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>>2185252
That company was caught lying about the protein content of their cookies. Its mainly excess fiber that gives it that density. Your getting scammed.
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>>2185252
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/food/889514-lenny-larrys-complete-cookie-settlement-revised-2-3m/

Dont eat those cookies
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>>2192299
Fuck man, I love those cookies. Bummer but thanks for the heads up I guess.
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>>2192347
No problem. See
>>2192300
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>>2188697
How did you sterilise the plastic bits and the canteen?
I picked one up and the way they smell right now there's no way am I putting any food/drink in it lol.
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>>2185283
What is the benefit of overnight oats compared to instant?
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>>2184759
what is the bare minimum of propane in btu i need to survive this winter at 60° latitude?
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>>2192353
I soaked them in warm water for a couple hours; then filled the canteen with soap and water, shook a bunch several times to get loosened what ever out. Lemon water, too afterwards
Finger the canteen to rub under the lid top
and leave the utensils in the sun for a bit to sterilize

Even so, because of age and used factor- the water I would keep in the canteen would be for boiling to cook or for cleaning- not my first or second go for drinking
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What kind of things do y'all recommend cooking that doesn't require bringing a cooler? Preferably not highly processed food (ramen)
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For a beginner to fishing and innawoods activities, is buying a portable firebox a good investment?
I’d like to learn how to collect/feather wood and start my own cooking fires.
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>>2194264
Risotto
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>>2187549
The best one
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>>2187896
What is the benefit of it being fueled by gasoline instead of gas?
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>>2194714
I bought the cheap, foreign manufactured version of this, and it works wonderfully, plus you learn to make fires on a small scale without the need to gather large amounts of wood.
Plus, cooking is wonderful on these things, so long as its just for one
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>>2194795
Fuel availability. There's a large amount of the world where you can't buy isopro cans.
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>>2194264
freeze dried food where you just add hot water into the bag. So you dont have to wash the dishes
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>>2194264
Quinoa with dry vegetables
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>>2194962
Damn that's genius, I just googled it and it says meat can be freeze dried too. If home freeze dried stuff can keep at ~75F I'm golden, and I can just go ham
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>>2184759
Canister
Pocket rocket
750 ml titanium pot
Ramen
Occasionally instant mashed
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>>2188907
Ha yeah, why would you want sodium water and carbs after long hikes
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i normaly just get a can of oily tuna, and some tomato paste.
take some toiletpaper (unused) place it onto the oil of the opened can, light it and let it burn until most of the oil has been evaporated, toss the burned toiletpaper, ad your tomato paste and mix the grilled tuna with it.
best fukken dish in the woods you will have, might even eat some bread slices with it.
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>>2187750
Based moomin enjoyer
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>>2187392
I thought about it but the cooker alone weighs more than a gas cooker and a fuel bottle while being less convenient to use, and if I strap a solar charger to my backpack then I get 5W whenever the sun is out as opposed to 2W only when I'm cooking. It just doesn't make sense.
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>>2184784

What's the best military surplus mess kit to pick up?

Anyone have any general recs?
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>>2196227
Polish/German ones are pretty handy and can double as a storage box.
British/Dutch ones are also handy for cooking in and don't take up too m8vwjwuch space.
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>>2196248
And the Dutch/British ones, easier to use over a stove.
Dutch ones are stainless steel while british models are aluminium.
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>>2196227
the Yugo one was good, you just have to make sure the rim is clean before you reassemble it
>>2196248
I have this Polish one, very sturdy but with the lid on it doesn't hang straight
>>2196250
I was going to specifically mention not to get these ones. You have to baby the temperature or the food burns to the bottom

There is a Captain Stag mess kit that is similar to the Polish one but with a additional tray that helps you steam rice if you want to go full Yuru Camp; pic related
I would have bought it on ebay but I have enough so no need
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>>2196255
>There is a Captain Stag mess kit that is similar to the Polish one but with a additional tray that helps you steam rice if you want to go full Yuru Camp; pic related
>I would have bought it on ebay but I have enough so no need

I think the German/Austrian versions come with that 3rd piece as well.
Just be careful not to buy a chink repro instead of genuine surplus.
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>>2194714
>I’d like to learn how to collect/feather wood and start my own cooking fires.
You've been watching too many virtuovice videos on youtube?

>For a beginner to fishing and innawoods activities, is buying a portable firebox a good investment?
I'd say it's a decent investment.
Now, depending on how cheap you are, you might consider buying a made in china wood stove to save some money. Don't buy the small ones, they are too small.
Or if you are really cheap, do an IKEA hobo stove. Should set you back less than $5/4€.
I quickly learned that while I really enjoy making fires, on my dayhikes I'd rather have something that doesn't need much setup. (I mostly use a gas stove or an alcohol stove now)
Still, despite knowing I won't use it much, I'm still considering buying a chink wood stove, the titanium ones are pretty cheap, not even twice the price of stainless.
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>>2196248
I managed to make popcorn in this once, quite a versatile little thing
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Just ordered this wild ride pos from chyna. Hoping to test it out when it comes so expect field reports. Anyone have any experience with them?
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>>2196584
not the slidy angle boi
please report how to works out !
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>>2188958
This looks so comfy
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>>2194714
Looks expensive for what is essentially a glorified can.
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>>2196632
like 100 quid for the firebox or the bushbox. All foldy and convenient though so that's something?
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Thinking about picking up this "Primus Essential Trail Stove" but I'm not sure if it would fit in a 1.1L pot along with a 230g canister
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>>2196879
it fits in primus essential trek pot, but the trail kit for 50$ includes the burner and the pot.
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>>2196885
Unfortunately the set is $80 here in Canada, not as good of a deal. I may just pick up one of these cheep chink stoves. With the pot I'm looking at (GSI glacier boiler), comes to 50CAD, which seems pretty reasonable.
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If you aren't using an MSR reactor then you are a certified flatlander
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>>2197126
>he doesnt use a whisperlite or xgk
oh I'm laffin
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>>2196255
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>>2197156
Yeah prolly laughing at sea level, careful of altitude sickness buckaroo
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>>2197162
>actually thinking people use canister stoves in place of liquid fuel
lmao
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>>2185274
>no idea how long the bottles last.
more than 3 days
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>>2194795
In the US none. Iso cans last years even after its been opened Gasoline even when treated lasts 6-12 months.
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>>2196895
I got one of those and bought a small Lindall valve for like $6 from china which adapts it to a 1lb propane bottle.
Those hiking gas canisters a overpriced as fuck in Australia.

Only thing is that because the little limbs on that burner slide on the base they have a mil or two height difference. Never done me wrong though.
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>>2184759
Cavemen steaks and stick bread
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>>2198573
>Those hiking gas canisters a overpriced as fuck in Australia.
Get adapters and refill them from cheaper bottles.
Dunno how it is in Australia but for example I can get 450gr canisters from the hardware store at almost half the price of "hiking" gas canisters of a similar capacity.
So I got a small canister and refill it. The canisters can be safely refilled 10-15 times. Just have to be careful to not overfill them (use a kitchen scale to weight them full vs the empty).
Also the little canisters with the push valve (picrel) are even cheaper (usually).
Either get a tripod adapter that connects directly to the stove (should cost maybe $5 for a plastic one on ebay or AliExpress) or use them to refill the canister (needs yet another adapter).
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>>2187757
Yes and no. Used to bring my cat, but she never comes when I call so it always feels like she's going to be left behind. Stupid cat.
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>>2198691
To be clear I mean style like picrel when I say they are overpriced. The reason I use the one in my OP is because they are the cheapest option for something I can screw a cooker straight on. Albeit they are heavier than the one you posted which are also likely even cheaper, I use those for my proper gas cooktop when van camping. I wouldn't feel confident cooking on one of those in the dark though lol i'd probably knock it over.
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>>2199020
>To be clear I mean style like picrel when I say they are overpriced.
I know, anon. Those little shits are also overpriced around here (somewhere in Europe).
I'm just giving you other options that I've found and explored as a fellow cheapskate.

I'm telling you is that maybe you'll be as lucky as me and picrel A at the hardware store (blowtorch section, not barbecue section) will be reasonably cheaper.
Also from what I've seen those gas canisters (either the 100g, the 230g like you posted or the 450g like picrel A) tend to be cheaper at hardware stores and stores dedicated to gas stuff, camping/outdoors stores overprice the shit out of them. (unfortunately my local hardware store only has 450g canisters so I use it to refill a 100g one that cost me as much as the 450g canister)

You can just use it directly with the stove, but if you think hauling about 680g of gas + canister is a bit tiresome you can get refill adapters (picrel C) to be able to refill the smaller canisters for cheaper than buying a whole new canister, either using a bigger canister you found for way cheaper (like my picrel A) or the canister I posted in my other post. (which happened to be the Campingaz CP 250, there are cheaper brands)

If, understandably, you're not up to start refilling canisters due to it being a bit of an headache (and potentially dangerous), you could also get picrel B (there are some more expensive ones that are made of metal) and use the canister I posted in my other post with the little camping stove.
I have that setup too and used it maybe 10-15 times by now without any issues.

Hope I was clearer this time. Maybe I'm just covering too much shit at once and it gets a bit confusing.
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Oh, wonderful...I forgot to post the image.
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Just pulled the trigger on this shitbox.
Hoping for the best, taking it out west.
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>>2184759
Why do you waste money on a stove? Just build a fire
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>>2199080
>>2199076
Yep totally feel you now my bad it was like midnight I was out of it.
Yeah the one big downside of those 450-460g coleman things I use is the dead weight even after empty. I might get my hands on your picrel B at some point because that seems to be the simplest and more or less cheapest method, rather than messing about refilling cans.
When such simple solutions exist I don't know why there's so many people shilling Jetboils and the like, there's this weird social media influencer subculture of people using jetboils to make hand ground coffee, I get that it's ritual but my god why tf would anyone lug that shit around haha.
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>>2195946
Is this legit? Or is this like the microwave-your-iphone-to-charge-it thing?
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>>2199138
>this weird social media influencer subculture of people using jetboils to make hand ground coffee,
Yeah, as much as I like gadgets and little toys, I can't really understand someone who buys a JetBoil just to heat water for their coffee/tea in record time on their slow paced weekend dayhike.
JetBoils have their use and their place, but honestly I don't understand the over the top shilling and following it has online. Some people shill that thing as if it was as fundamental for hiking as a pair of shoes.

>>2199143
>Is this legit?
It's legit.
But I personally don't know if I trust modern paper with all the whitening chemicals and whatnot.
Also dunno if tuna cans don't have a plastic liner like most cans have.

>>2199125
>Why do you waste money on a stove? Just build a fire
Inefficiency and fire bans.
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>>2199125
>Just build a fire
Slower, more work, waste of wood, fire bans, destructive, less convenient.

The advantage of a fire is you get a nice bed of coals to slowly cook something on.
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>>2199152
It depends on the style of camping/hiking you're planning on doing. I'm not a gram-counter, but I don't like hauling 50 pounds of shit into the woods so that I can make gourmet meals. Freeze dried home made meals are great and super light. All I need is hot water, and I have a nice meal.
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i use picrel when camping out of my car; otherwise, i use >>2196895
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>>2199100
oh man, be sure to take it out to practice first and report back on how it is!
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>>2196585
The slidy angle boi came today! Setting it up is a bit of a faff but going to test it out on the beach tonight to see how it performs... wish me luck outists.
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>>2187392
someone bought me one of these and it's still in the box after 7 years or so.

It's hard to argue with the jetboil if you are cooking something that just needs boiling water. If you try to cook anything else with the burner, it'll carbonize it fucking immediately.
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>>2187756
make a wind shield out of aluminum foil and try it again.
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>>2199020
>To be clear I mean style like picrel when I say they are overpriced.
lrn2refill
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>>2195946
>>2199143
I tried it this weekend and the oil would not burn in the paper towel. After giving up on that, I mixed the paste and tuna and heated it in a pan and it tasted a little better than dogshit. It was very filling though.
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>>2199375
Is that a screw on adapter that allows it to take lighter refill cannisters? I hav e a fill station for filling 1 lb green bottles from a 20lb pig, but this is new to me. Can you just adapt down from 20lb bottle or is this the only way to go?
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>>2199379
$2 piece of brass + a couple small gaskets

>Can you just adapt down from 20lb bottle or is this the only way to go?
you refill with cheapo butane cans, not propane, so it only works for warm weather use.

But it lets me cook all spring-fall without feeling guilty about fuel wasting money on fuel.
Plus you never run into the problem of half-empty canisters.
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>>2199384
fucking neat. Thanks anon.
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>buying some glorified tin can alcohol stove made by chinks who cranked it out in 30 seconds to capitalize on the latest retard outdoor larp trend because you're cucked by your own government banning fires
never felt better to not be yuropoor
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>>2199391
What the fuck are you even on about mutt?
Go kneel for some niggers like a good americuck.
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>>2199421
Actually I'll just go into the woods next to my house, cook over a campfire, shoot some guns, and not get blown up by some random muzzy. keep sucking chink microdick.
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I need advice on good fuel for my spirit stove.
I've tried white spirit and it did F-all.

What's a good/best fuel for a spirit stove?

>pic unrelated.
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>>2199421
why are you eurocucks so racist?
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>>2199232
So... it's good but a little finicky. Probably something I need to get used to working. I got it burning really cleanly in parts, hot flame and no smoke but other times it went completely out and needed blowing to re-ignite flames. The little flaps they have over the fuel, air and ash trays dont really work so I just took them off. Maybe a 4/10. Works if you're not allowed open fires and probably quite efficient but janky to get working.
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I make a giant bonfire with the 5-7 trees I cut down around my camp to heat my ramen cup
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>>2199375
Maybe I will lol, damn that can looks like it's been used atleast 10x more than it was ever meant to.
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>>2199610
OP here, fuck off back to /pol/ faggots this thread is about cooking.
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>>2200339
Lmao, mutt absolutely seething
Keep crying fag
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>>2199562
Last update so it's not frustrating to y'all. Took it out again last night and learnt that the embers and ash need to be managed more intensely than I thought. Once I was keeping the grate a the bottom clear, the fire was much less smokey and easier to manage. Plus I found only feeding one stick at a time rather than loads was much more effective than picrel.
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>>2199375
Refilling would be a good idea, but the cheap butane doesn't work that well over here in the north, after it gets down to freezing point, you have a problem. This summer I got myself a gas canister stove and I must say I like it, but during winters I doubt it'll work properly without the expensive winter gas.

In the finnish army we used trangias and they were bomb&idiot proof. Worked in every condition and temperature, were almost silent and it was easy to transport fuel for them. Only problem with said trangias is the large size and slower boiling with them.
>>2199125
During summers it gets so damn dry here that you'd burn up the whole forest. Also, since we have everymans rights that allow trespassing on private property, you must not leave damage to the property you are camping on.
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Not an expert chef and I might be white trash but I fried up some spam and threw it in knorrs Spanish rice and that shit was ***CASHMONEY***
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>>2187756
Assuming there's nothing wrong with the stove (it's pretty much impossible to fuck it up in a way it doesn't work anymore, they're retard proof) if the fuel goes out leaving a liquid that doesn't light/lights and goes out immediately, it was too dilute to begin with, you probably have bad alcohol. Anything sufficiently volatile but below boiling at ambient works as long as it's concentrated, pour some isopropyl alcohol in it and see if it works. If you can get some from an IT store (as sold for cleaning purposes it's usually extremely pure, if you buy it as disinfectant it's always 50%) that shit burns the most out of everything that won't poison you, but will blacken your pot.
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>>2184759
I've tried a lot of different cook sets but I always go back to the gas trangia
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>>2185610
Based Savotta water bag
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>>2187392
It's a meme, we have this question every 6 months or so. This is one of those gucci products for urbane tech types who want to larp as a mountain man to regain their lost masculinity but get anxiety if they're too far away from a gizmo that beeps.
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>>2187756
I never got on with meths, I always used surgical spirit (isopropyl alcohol) which worked far better but made a sooty mess. I bit the bullet and brought the trangia gas system and never looked back.
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>>2192718
Higher nutritional content I think, but afaik you get the same if you cook instant oats in milk.
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>>2192718
>>2200548
I'm not sure about the nutritional content, but overnight oats definitely have more fiber. Also it's ready to eat when you wake up, no cooking required, which is a fairly major convenience.
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>>2184766
>goes innawoods to eat ramen
what a faggot
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>>2197980
Joking aside whisperlite is my other stove
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>>2200949
I concur
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>>2200470
I find it interesting.
If you're not in a rush it sounds great. I like my gassifier stove as it gives me something to do rather than having stuff done in a couple of minutes like a gas canister does (noting wrong with that).

Poking around with a fire is frustrating but also peak comfy.
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Why do a lot of you buy gas stoves and such?
I've only been open fire cooking.

Is it to reduce the energy/time spent collecting fire wood?

Do you not have an abundance of dead trees and fallen sticks?

Do you believe it has a lesser impact on the enviornment?

Is it due to regulations by your local authority?

All I take with me is a messkit, usually use a large stone as a cooking base or a steel rack.

Not trying to be retarded, genuinely curious and want as much insight onto this as possible from your point of views.

Also, I live in Australia if that means anything.

>>2184759
Have a quick glance at this channel on youtube: vek0

A lot of good recipes, simple instructions, no commentary and nothing expensive.
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>>2203286
>Is it to reduce the energy/time spent collecting fire wood?
Yes, plus it's reliable if everything is wet (europe is rainy).
>Do you not have an abundance of dead trees and fallen sticks?
Kinda, but can be damp, green or in low quantities if you're camping on a plain.
>Do you believe it has a lesser impact on the enviornment?
Eh, not a big deal for me but I dont think it does. All the manufacturing of a jetboil bullshit outweighs the fuel efficiency right?
>Is it due to regulations by your local authority?
100%. I'm not allowed open fires in the UK so a gas stove is a way of having hot food while not getting arrested.
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>>2203289
Thanks for the clarification and yeah, I think the mass manufacturing does defeat the purpose.
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>>2203292
>I think the mass manufacturing does defeat the purpose.
Haha, glad I'm not the only one thinking like this. I'm trying to be mindful of my environmental impact but it's difficult when so much of the impact is industrial rather than consumer level. I'm recycling but chyna is still dumping into it's rivers and venting CFCs. I think my little rocketstove isn't going to move the needle at all!
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>>2200542
I never would have guessed how much I needed it untill I got it.
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>>2203286
>Why do a lot of you buy gas stoves and such?
Because in Finland you are allowed to camp on private property (everymans rights). Because you are staying on someone elses property, you are a guest and habe to respect the area you stay at. You may not leave traces from your stay. That means you have to pick up trashes, not damage the flora and to not make campfires if you do not have a permission from the lands owner.

Also, during summers there is a real risk of forest fires, many of them happen annually due to someone making an "illegal" campfire out in to the woods. Trangias, canister stoves and such are the only ones that are allowed here during the forest fire season.
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>>2203286
What about when it rains for 3 days straight and all of your sticks and trees are wet?
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>>2204042
>What about when it rains for 3 days straight and all of your sticks and trees are wet?
The lowest branches under small, thick spruces (kinda what one might call christmas trees) are always dry, and will light up with relative ease. Then collect branches that snap, they are still dry from the inside. After you get a good fire going on, it will eat even wet wood. Just chop it down.
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>>2204048
What about when it has rained for literal weeks on end and what you just described isn’t possible?
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>>2204058
>What about when it has rained for literal weeks on end and what you just described isn’t possible?
Dead trees that are still standing should be still dry from the inside. Hope you brought your saw and hatchet with you.
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>>2204060
Yeah. Or just take the stove?
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>>2204065
>Yeah. Or just take the stove?
I am >>2204040, I use a trangia with methylated spirits burner for camping. I was just answering to your questions about how one could make fire even after the rain.
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>>2204079
I know how to make a fucking fire very well thank you, but I was trying to clarify to the aussie here why someone would carry a stove in the first place perkele. Because useable firewood is not readily available always everywhere for everyone. Especially not here where you and I live lately since it's been raining since the beginning of august.
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>>2196895
nice bike, is that a crow foot pattern on the wheels?
the best is Kemetyl T-Tenol, it is designed for spirit stoves and nothing else.
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>>2204040
hey, if you camp in the north do you have to stay hundreds of meters away / out of sight from sami huts?
do you have national parks everywhere that forbids camping at all?
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For my first night I bring a frozen fish, I have a source to get good mackerel. Wrap it in several layers of paper so it stays frozen till the evening. Then I let it warm up for half an hour or so. Add salt, pepper, whatever and wrap it in two layers of foil. Put it into campfire coals for 7 minutes, turt it, 7 minutes more. Proper restaurant grade food. Boil rice or
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>>2204457
>sami huts?
never seen one
usually, they live in houses nowdays
>national parks everywhere that forbids camping
no, where did you get that idea?
you can basically camp in someone elses property if you do it properly
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>>2204285
Aussie here, fair enough mate, don’t get much rain here.
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>>2184759
Canned pea soup is nice, you scoop it in to the pot, add half a can of water and heat it up. Can be eaten cold as well, if needed. It is fairly heavy, but not impossibly heavy in my opinion.
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>>2204974
For some reason the pic is rotated, hopefully it isn't this time.
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>>2204957
Ultimately it comes down to convinience, but in even moderately wet climates it's simply unpractical in my opinion.
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>>2204980
There are (roughly) 2 ways to rotate a photo - move the pixels around then reencode the image, or just put a "rotate 90cw" tag in the EXIF data. Most software does the latter, especially if it's a smartphone app. This is fine, except that 4chan will strip all EXIF data from any uploaded image (except on /p/) because it's a vector for doxing and (rarely) malware.
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>>2189783
I find that the fire easily dies in this stove if there are either too many logs inside or the ash is already piled up. But it burns very hot. This of course also means that small pieces of wood should be added constantly. A plus point is that my trangia perfectly fits inside. Not gonna buy another style bushbox, as it works and I don't want to waste money.
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>>2204974
You add the water to the soup? Is that just how you do the soup or a way to think it out to make it go further?
(I like pea soup a lot and don't want to be missing out)
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>>2192353
>>2192815
Different Anon here. Personally I don't like to use the plastic canteens on these older kits just because theres no telling what crappy plastic they used is leeching into your water. For canteens/waterbottles in general though a mixture of coarse salt and uncooked rice with water is what I like to use to scour the inside of bottles nicely, then I follow it up by leaving a mixture of baking soda and water in the bottle overnight. I like to stuff the inside of the yugo set with food like a little ration pack instead.
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I'm a stoveless Chad.
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>>2184759
Snickers, jerky, cheese, salami, oatmeal, little bread, little rice, beans and the likes. Oranges and other fruits. Water.
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>>2185274
Plenty of time. Don't worry. You will only run out if leave it on all night like my friend did one time.
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>>2204489
Based
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>>2184759
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>>2205990
>You add the water to the soup? Is that just how you do the soup...?
Yes. It is essentially concentrated soup in a can, so you need to add a bit of water in to the soup in order to make it a bit runnier, in to a proper soup. You have the preparation guide on the can, but usually half can of water is good. I don't even bother to read them anymore.
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>>2206935
That sounds good.
i have taken powdered soup out in the past but it has never turned out well. The powder has gone clumpy through damp and has even burst covering stuff with soup powder.
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>cottage pie
Dehydrated ground beef
Dehydrated mixed veggies
Packet of instant brown gravy
Idahoan butter and herb mash
Clarified butter
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Skurkas beans and rice
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>>2206993
I don't think we even have powdered soup available in Finland. I'd love to give them a try though. Anything so that I could get a bit of variance in to my meals. Eating cheese pastas, pea soup and noodles gets old fairly quick.

>>2207009
That sounds very tasty. Can you give us a more in to detail recepy for this meal? Also, how did you dehydrate the veggies and ground beef? With an oven or a dehydrator?
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>>2194714
I wonder why these are so fucking expensive. 100 quid for a couple sheets of stamped metal... These are about the cheapest kind of stove imaginable considering the manufacture. Are there no cheapo Alu versions of this?
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>>2207109
Bushcraft lapers always gladly pay a premium for their cosplay gear, so i'm not surprised companies upcharge 1000% to make it appear like a more "premium" product
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>>2200477
>Refilling would be a good idea, but the cheap butane doesn't work that well over here in the north, after it gets down to freezing point, you have a problem
I've used refill cans down to 20F. If you have a remote canister stove you move the canister close to the flame to heat itself up

but i always bring a backup of regular isopro for winter trips in case it drops too cold for pure butane. But you can't deny the savings are enormous for 75% of the year.
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>>2207113
Fair enough. Truth be told, I haven't been looking very hard so far, I'll go do that right away. Can't wait to get a camping BBQ going instead of always relying on gas burners or risking forest fires.
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>>2207117
>If you have a remote canister stove you move the canister close to the flame to heat itself up
That is the dumbest shit I have ever read.
Look, either invert the canister or put it into a bowl of liquid water but make sure it doesnt freeze.
Your idea is utterly retarded and very unsafe, either use these things correctly or get a liquid fuel stove before you blow yourself up in the middle of nowhere.
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>>2207153
>i don't understand physics: the post
just like water doesn't instantly boil when you turn on a fire, the canister doesn't instantly heat up
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>>2207155
Whoa you dont say?
Now tell me again how you can accurately measure the internal pressure to prevent your homemade bomb from going off?
Or better yet tell me where it says that heating the isobutane canisters is a good idea?
What you are suggesting is extremely unsafe and no manufacturer of stoves or canisters would agree with your ideas about how to use them.
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>>2207167
>Now tell me again how you can accurately measure the internal pressure to prevent your homemade bomb from going off?
Anon you know those canisters are safe for use in the desert heat?
So as long as you keep it below body temperature you're completely safe.
I'm not telling you to cook the canister, just to raise the temperture high enough above freezing.

The margin of error is even safer since butane is a lower pressure gas than isobutane

>pic related, it's high school physics
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>>2207172
The way you do that safely is by putting the canister in a bowl of liquid water and change it out as it starts to freeze.
If you have ever bothered to read the msds for them you would know that they shouldnt even be stored in direct sunlight or a car much less heated with a moulder strip or by being placed close to the flame.
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nigger word
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>>2207176
I appreciate the concern anon but those canisters are a lot safer than you think.
they have a concave bottom as a pressure fail-safe; the bottom pops first before you risk an overpressure explosion.

But as long as you check the canister now and then and it doesn't get warm to the touch, you're perfectly safe.
You can even hear the difference in flow rate when it starts to get warm.

Yes, white gas is safer. Yes, placing it in a bowl of water works as well.
But sometimes you just want a quick meal without lugging all this extra gear out, and placing the canister a couple away in 15F weather isn't going to cause it to blow up
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>>2207176
>muh MSDS
>muh moulder strip bad
meanwhile in non-litigious korea, you can buy a quick-detach magnetic moulder strip designed for winter use
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>>2207109
>Are there no cheapo Alu versions of this?
As the other anon pointed out, out friendly slit-eyed overlords from the East have some pretty decent cheap folding wood stoves.

Pro Tips:
- never buy the "Small" size. Medium or large are the only viable options.

- the titanium versions aren't much more expensive than the stainless (usually $5-10 difference for the same size stove) and weight about half.
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>>2207047
>I'd love to give them a try though
Ah man, I wish I could send you a few packets of various soups haha.
It would be cool to do an international /out/ food swap
look up knorr soups and you might find some where you are or something similar. If you are where there is plenty of water then it's great. Just make sure to keep the big box ones wrapped!

https://www.thomasridley.co.uk/knorr-carrot-and-coriander-soup-82202u.html?CAWELAID=120291440000010636
https://www.thomasridley.co.uk/knorr-chicken-soup-mix-62103.html?CAWELAID=120291440000012844
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313607323120?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=7101533165274578&mkcid=2&itemid=313607323120&targetid=4585169652812021&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=412354547&mkgroupid=1305120599331881&rlsatarget=pla-4585169652812021&abcId=9300541&merchantid=87779
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>>2207225
Much appreciated, friend.
Me in a week
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>>2207285
Please.
Please post a picture of you opening it like that.
I.. need it
haha enjoy !
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>>2207167
I think using a rubber band (pic is of a silicone band I think) would act as a pretty good safety measure considering it would just melt and fall off. The metal strip would fall away WAY before the temperatures got high enough to concern the possibility of the can rupturing or blowing up or anything
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>>2185197
So you have Chinese food when you go /out/? Nice.
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>>2207287
I must warn you, I'm not really a cute slightly autistic anime girl in real life.
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>>2207047
Brown the beef in a frying pan and rinse in a siv to get rid of most of the fat to have better results dehydrating
Then the beef and veggies in a dehydrator at ~140 until completely dry
>Cooking instructions
Cold soak the beef and veggies for 30mins to an hour
Then boil for 10-15 mins
Add gravy packet and let sit for another 15 minutes preferably in a pot cozy or towel
Make instant mash on the side and spread on top when the rest is done
Add butter or cheese salt and pepper and enjoy
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>>2207296
she is very cute
hurricane Katrina rescue
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I just picked this up at daiso.

Wondering how they'll hold up

>Zinc plated iron
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>>2207439
Why don't they just make one design with lots of slots so it's suitable for lots of pan sizes rather than having a big and little?
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>>2207444
No idea. Plan on using the little in my kit and the big in my bug out bag.

Not concerned about weight with the bug out as I'll have ammo in it and such
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>>2207448
>Not concerned about weight with the bug out as I'll have ammo in it and such
So it should be the exact opposite and you should try to minimize the weight of other shit to compensate for the extra weight of the ammo, no?

That being said, I like the design of the thing, I should copy it so I have stands for my 3 trangia style alcohol stoves
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>>2207497
Never understood the "It's already heavy, so what's a little more weight" mentality, especially when it comes to something your going to be carrying under duress.
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>>2207509
>Never understood the "It's already heavy, so what's a little more weight" mentality
I'm OK with that while it's kept under a manageable weight.
The weight difference on the pot support is minimal, maybe 10-20 grams (that's what? a 5.56mm round or two?) between the bigger one and the smaller one, so sure, on this particular item I wouldn't think much about it.
But that mentality is bad when applied to stuff like bug out bags.
Fortunately the likelihood of anyone actually using a BoB outside of having fun (mock bug-outs, for example) is very small.
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>>2207509
To me it makes perfect sense. The lighter your pack is the more you watch it's weight. If you have over 20 kilos to begin with an extra kilogram is nothing. The relative difference lessens you see. And besides, if you get it under 25kg it doesn't matter anyway.
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>>2188958
Shin ramen, do you get black?
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>>2184759
How long does a 230g gas canister lasts for? I've been in a 3 day trip, boiled ~3l of water for 6 cups of coffee / tea and heated up two cans of food and apparently it's just 30g lighter than the newly bought canister. Perhaps my fire was too weak [spoiler]it was my first time cooking on a portable stove and it took around 10 minutes to boil half a liter[/spoiler]?
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>>2207809
Jetboil claims that you can boil 23 litres with one can
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>>2207809
>How long does a 230g gas canister lasts for?
Quite a bit more than we would think at first sight.
A 230 g canister lasts for a few hours of burn time. (3 hours or so, if I recall correctly)
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>>2191228
>Funny you post this I have given up carrying the meme axe in favour of a folding garden saw and pair or good secateurs. I find it's just more efficient than smashing away with an axe or meme battoning your knife
It's a painful pill to swallow, cause axes are cool, but yeah just any folding saw and pair of secateurs is so much better and easier for taking care of firewood. My backpacking group still ripped on me for bringing 'em though.
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>>2207809
A 230g can should last a weeks trip no problem. I usually take my old used up 230g can and then a full spare one whenever I go out for a week. I might get away with just taking the full one, but I usually have a used one left over from the last trip. And it's nice to have two just in case something happens.
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Use pot to boil water for curry nood'l
then use pan to fry half a tin of garlic spam

It's nice, man
also guard cat protecting nibb'l from ethnics and other animals
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>>2209258
OP here, cute panther. Had a stray one turn up at my place just like him/her a day before xmas, he was so skinny I didn't think he'd make it.
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>>2207285
https://www.amazon.com/Unigear-Burning-Potable-Stainless-Backpacking/dp/B072KGL1H1/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=folding+wood+stove&qid=1631601016&sr=8-5

AmaZog has these for less than 25 dollars. They look like a great alternative for non-liquid/gas fuel cooking.
The thing seems decently sized, and if it's two people cooking with it, then you can have the fire end pointed away from you with the other guy adding on sticks and stuff to the fire to keep it hot, because let's be honest. If you're buying this, then you're either a faggot in his backyard or you're using scavenged sticks, tinder, and crushed pine cones to fuel this thing and not actual charcoals or some gay smaller stove shoved inside of it.
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>>2203559
>Savotta water bag
please explain this to me, a caveman.
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>>2199377
filling is good no?
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>>2210279
https://www.savotta.fi/products/water-carrying-bag
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I want one, talk me out of it
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>>2185241
>how well do they work with cast iron?
I use my cast iron and single-burner butane stove for vancamping trips and it's the best shit. Pic related: corn tortillas, canned chicken, canned pintos, and hot sauce.
>>2185243
>how heavy are they?
Not very heavy, but way too bulky to backpack with IMO.
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>>2210919
Optimus is better since you don't need to switch out nozzle heads for different fuel types





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