Are underquilts necessary
under 60 or so, yes. sleeping pads do about 50% of the work for keeping you warm
>>2160391No. I've probably slept a few months worth of nights (mostly in Montana) in mine and have never gotten cold. I do run hot, though.
>>2160391depends where you at, i have a full DD setup, tarp and hammock, dont actually feel the underquilt does much
yes unless you want a freezing butt
>carry bug net, tarp, underquilt, and hammockmakes me just wanna pack the tent
Not really no, an inflatable sleeping pad usually does the trick unless you're actually in extreme cold. Doubles up functionally with letting you cowboy if you feel like it.
lmao all of you neckbeards would die in the tropics
I slept a lot in a hammock in the forest when I lived in Guyana, and I wished I had an underquiltYou deffo need one if you go in a humid zone, some nights when I couldn't bear the cold (and it was only like 23°C) I attached my tarp under the hammock, just to trap a little bit of heatIf you go to a dry region, you can make do without one just by putting a shirt or some kind of cloth under your hips, but I suggested you invest in one (or make one yourself, it's a cheap option) if you plan on sleeping a lot in your hammock
>>2161062Yeah. You're a pussy.
>>2161056Just like you wouldn't even be able to dress yourself properly in a real winter.
>people will tell you to buy a quilt and an underquilt while insisting sleeping bags are dumb
>>2160643I mean thats just a hanging version of a double wall tent and a sleeping pad.>>2161062Pretty much my experience. I was surprisingly cool in a humid Georgia summer and ended up wrapping a blanket underneath me.
you may as well just have a fucking tent
>>2161296Sleepy suspend in space>sleeping on ground
post hammock OC
>>2161583why are you on this board? i wish to understand
>>2161623He likes to shit up nice things :DDDD
Not to steal this thread but can anyone suggest me a hammock stand that would work with a Hennessy Jungle Asym? Or could I use a random tree and my Honda Nc700x that weighs about 210kg, and a center stand. Id have to put a couple metal plates down to keep it from toppling over or would the side stand be better for this?I plan on going out next week to try it out near Lake Biwa in Japan.
>>2161623it's a joke on every board at this point... the butt of the joke is people who feel the need to take time out of their day to get offended by it(you)
>>2161901How hard is it to just find two trees?
>>2161068Ok man, maybe you're less prone to cold than meBut I'm also from northern France, it gets quite cold here, I'm used to itHumidity changes thibgs a lot
>>2161909how does replying asking why someone wastes their time posting such meager bait being offended>trans people are a jokeok if you say so champ I dont really care
>>2160391I have one for a tent (Pic related) (minus the head part, but inflateable)If I put this into my hammock would that work?
>>2161901I've tried hanging one side of my hammock from a bike much heavier than that, and it started to tip as soon as I put any weight in the hammock. Just bring some extra straps to increase your tree range.
>>2161094You're not compressing the underquilt though so it retains its loft
>>2163133Yeah, but try fitting it inside your sleeping bag to stop it from slipping around
>>2163386Alright thx will do
>>2160391With a down bag definitely. Less so with synthetic. You can get sleeping bags down on top, synthetic bottom, can’t remember who makes them though. May be discontinued now, I don’t imagine they were very popular.
>>2160643It’s not like the only thing you take it a tent. You also take a sleeping pad and blanket/bag, so the number of items is equivalent.
>>2161901What bug net is that
>>2163133under quilts are expensive and this is what I do , I used an ugly blue foam one though and just slide it in then use a winter sleeping bag.it keeps me super warm
>>2163133yup, although you might slip off. I do. Under-inflate it slightly; that seems to help.
>>2163133I just use my soft gun case under my bag. Its fuzzy, reflects heat and is about as thick as the sleeping mat I used to use.
>>2164526It’s not expensive to make your own, and can get you down to 40* in winter mode and 55* in summer mode
What if i had just the hammock quilt and bug net without the sleeping pad?
>>2161901Hammock stands are 50 lbs of steel like thishttps://www.lasiesta.com/us/en/collection/stands-suspensions/la-siesta-nautico-cool-grey-powder-coated-steel-stand-for-kingsize-hammocks-nas20-19Or they are two tripods with a spreader bar where the strength comes from anchoring into the groundhttp://www.tatogear.com/outdoor/products/hammock-stands/
>>2165026>>2163133Sleeping pads suck in hammocks, an underquilt is way better. Worst part about the pad is it is a vapor barrier where you don't want it. The accessory to an underquilt is an impermeable silnylon undercover vapor barrier.>>2160391Undercover is almost always necessary with any wind movement, Underquilt is necessary below 70.More underquilt means less sleeping bag/top quilt.How well the underquilt fits your hang dramatically influences performance.
>>2164608>65 dollarsmight as well just buy one on amazon
>>2162854In Japan it’s a pain in the ass with all the fucking barren camp grounds designed for tents and car campers.>>2163211Thanks. I figured it out, I attached it to the rear wheel and put it in gear. With the center stand down the front wheel doesn’t make contact and it pulls directly backwards so it didn’t tip over.
>>2165109Yah, you do that lolShit suspension for it too
>>2165109the best cheap UQ is cedar ridge or hammock gear econ.
>>2165405how tf can you hang a hammock off a motorcycle wheel? you'd just be sleeping on the ground>>2161068>getting cold makes you a pussy
>>2165535dont listen to these negative fags anon, I used my hammock half a dozen times in the UP before I bought an underquilt and its a huge upgrade. There might be nothing comfier than softly swinging in warm puffy hammock after a long day of hiking. fuck being cold at night
id rather be too warm than too cold.
>>2164608>>2160391Just make one. Military mummy bags fit around a hammock and cover most of the body when zipped up.
>>2166375youll just have an extremely tight underquilt that will be much less effective when the insulation is compressed. Just get the right equipment or dont bother
>>2163406Seems like a great idea tho
>>2166375DumbIt would either fall down onto the ground when you unzip it to get in or out, or a pain to get in without unzipping.It is possible to convert an old sleeping bag to to be an underquilt by adding some suspension system to it tho
>>2161062doesn't guyana have those chagas disease bugs? what were your anti-bug measures?
>>2161901I like your set up. I was wondering what to do with my 130 lb beats while /out/. Hes a nightmare in a tent. Im going to try this.
>>2166370That looks so dope. More than a meme though?
>>2167464It's heavy duty. You probably would not want to backpack the thing; they make an UL option that doubles as a trecking pole. There is a bit of a learning curve to anchor strategy if you are setting up somewhere with very soft or very hard soil. The rigging seems like it was refined by a 4chan grade fanatical gear autist, and they sell replacement tubing and hardware.Not a meme imo, but the full stand is too heavy to be suitable for backpacking.
>>2167494Hammock+ these things = as big or even bigger than just packing a small 1-2 Person tent with you.The purpose of a hammoch is to save space and weight. aswell as beeing easier to set up. While I get the Idea its usefull in areas with no trees, it just doesn't make sense to me. Especially looking at the price, for which you could easily buy a tent for.Ofc if you have the money and want to be fancy...
>>2168032>The purpose of a hammoch is to save space and weight.
>>2161068yeah. how bout i break ur legs.
>>2168131based hero /out/ needs but does not even slightly deserve
>>2160391IMO and from my experience - probably.>be ausfag>go hike camping for one night>springtime, so still fairly hot>keen to test out my new hammock setup>has sleeping pad, no blanket, only towel because hot>get high asf, nighttime comes>me and friendanon retire>oh no>wind starts blowing>c o l d>can barely feel my toes or fingers>back is cramping from cold>even with a sleeping pad, the heat is being stolen from my body>cover myself in anything and everything>extra socks, extra clothes, towel, even friendanon's sleeping pad which was an old car seat>still cold>worst sleep of my lifeIt's best to be over-prepared and not sweat anything so simple as staying warm at night.
>>2168216the thing about a hammock is that it compresses any insulation between you and it while simultaneously being thin as fuck exposing your whole body (but mostly your butt) to heat transfer from wind. underquilt solves all these problems
>>2168032For me a hammock is about comfort. I like to sleep in it
>>2163432Grand Trunk Mozzy 360
what underquilts are you lads using? the DD hammock one its like 1kg and bulky as fuck, id like something a bit lighter if possible
>>2170382dutchware, although i started with a serac double. Warbonnet is also popular. What suspension are you using? I used the eno atlas strap but they're mad heavy. Lot's of lighter options out there
>>2168131>thinks I'm afraid of a pussy Kek
>>2168032>hammock is to save space & weightwrong and is a meme. Hammock camping is for those who dont mind the weight and bulk for some extra comfort to not sleep on the ground in the outdoors.
>>2170382warbonnet makes good underquilts but I myself have a Snugpack Chinesium underquilt and other than adding 4 mini carabeaner's to hitch it to my hammock it has been amazing and I have not had a cold night yet in it down to 38 degrees. The issue is its bulky and weights 3 pounds but its pretty cheap and will cover you for everything but deep winter.
somebody said something about comfy?would be awesome to have an underquilt i could clip in place inside this thing..
>>2171055>suspension mounted tarpTell me more. Or is that some proprietary system?
>>2167356Pretty much everything tries to kill you, even a lot a the trees have razor-sharp leaves, a friend got a nasty cut on the forearm when he brushed a bush. Had to tend it every hour, and even then the wound was not good lookingAnother friend got malaria, some others dengue, zika and even chik lolOtherwise you just put long sleeves, long pants and you watch your steps for sneks>>2171981The wind (even just a slight breeze) combined with 5000% humidity makes it miserable
>>2174066>23C>5000% humidity>Atmospher is quite literally waterAnon, fish don't need hammocks. You live underwater, just go hide in the sea castle.
>>2171055Seems like a lot of unnecessary tension to place on your tarp using it as what is basically a structural ridge line.I can’t imagine it will last long.
>>2170680Extra bulk and weight? Compared to what, a tent and a sleeping pad? I don't think.
>>2174247Seems to be attached with a bungee cord
>>2174247do you have any idea what youre talking about?
>>2168216>be ausfag>get high asfOn what? Last time I was in Aus they had the shittiest weed I ever saw. Made brick mexican shit look like kind.
>>2174247are you dumb?
I slept in my hammock in -10 C (14 F) without an underquilt and it was fine. Just make sure you have a good sleeping bag and something nice and insulated between you and the hammock.
>>2163123I don't care either which is why i'm making this reply to your post. Just because i don't care.
>>2176295This. Warm clothes (including socks and stocking cap) go a long way as well.
>>2171998Honestly it just looks like they added some tie off points to the the suspension line and then small carabiners to clip in the tarp. Similar on the side you just tie the pull outs together.For just a little bit of wind I found tying a woobie under the hammock to do fine. I am interested in getting the hammock weather to a lower number although one it really starts to drop I just move to the bivy.
>>2176295Why are you lying tho?
>>2170687I can't find it online, can you post a link?
>>2160391Nah, I just finished my AT thru hike. And I was hiking with a guy who just had a hammock and a 50 degree sleeping bag the whole trail. He slept a night in the smokies when it got down to 10 degrees and he survived. Just learn to be uncomfortable and you are good
>>2174849mate you haven't been to Tweed then (aptly named), we're the weed capital of Aus and we got the best shit
>>2176747The best ahit is still shit
>>2160391no, sleeping pads are better and do the same thing if you have no trees and have to sleep on the ground.>>2161006>>2163429if you sleep hot, in the summer you just bring a hammock and a liner.
>>2171055How do you call the "ropes" going away from the hammock? i bought a rather cheap hammock but I can swap out the "ropes". Just dont know the names to buy them kek
>>2160391Hypothermia kinda sucks, so yes.
>>2176931>sleeping pads are better>for use with a hammockt. never hammock camped below 60*
>>2177128There are many types of suspensions for hammocks, but you should always use some kind of 1” or wider strap around the tree.Here is series that covers everythinghttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLahaAdtfX9ZJ8QsJqWwRN4_MaZ8UAyzWm
>>2161738Very very late to the party but is this the same system? If so then what's the name of it?