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Are underquilts necessary
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>>2160391
yeah
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under 60 or so, yes. sleeping pads do about 50% of the work for keeping you warm
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>>2160391
No. I've probably slept a few months worth of nights (mostly in Montana) in mine and have never gotten cold. I do run hot, though.
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>>2160391
depends where you at, i have a full DD setup, tarp and hammock, dont actually feel the underquilt does much
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yes unless you want a freezing butt
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>carry bug net, tarp, underquilt, and hammock
makes me just wanna pack the tent
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Not really no, an inflatable sleeping pad usually does the trick unless you're actually in extreme cold. Doubles up functionally with letting you cowboy if you feel like it.
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lmao all of you neckbeards would die in the tropics
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>>2161056
Huh?
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I slept a lot in a hammock in the forest when I lived in Guyana, and I wished I had an underquilt
You deffo need one if you go in a humid zone, some nights when I couldn't bear the cold (and it was only like 23°C) I attached my tarp under the hammock, just to trap a little bit of heat
If you go to a dry region, you can make do without one just by putting a shirt or some kind of cloth under your hips, but I suggested you invest in one (or make one yourself, it's a cheap option) if you plan on sleeping a lot in your hammock
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>>2161062
Yeah. You're a pussy.
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>>2161056
Just like you wouldn't even be able to dress yourself properly in a real winter.
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>people will tell you to buy a quilt and an underquilt while insisting sleeping bags are dumb
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>>2160643
I mean thats just a hanging version of a double wall tent and a sleeping pad.

>>2161062
Pretty much my experience. I was surprisingly cool in a humid Georgia summer and ended up wrapping a blanket underneath me.
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you may as well just have a fucking tent
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>>2161296
Sleepy suspend in space>sleeping on ground
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>>2161583
why are you on this board? i wish to understand
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>>2161623
He likes to shit up nice things :DDDD
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>>2161581
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Not to steal this thread but can anyone suggest me a hammock stand that would work with a Hennessy Jungle Asym?
Or could I use a random tree and my Honda Nc700x that weighs about 210kg, and a center stand. Id have to put a couple metal plates down to keep it from toppling over or would the side stand be better for this?
I plan on going out next week to try it out near Lake Biwa in Japan.
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>>2161623
it's a joke on every board at this point... the butt of the joke is people who feel the need to take time out of their day to get offended by it(you)
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>>2161901
How hard is it to just find two trees?
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>>2161068
Ok man, maybe you're less prone to cold than me
But I'm also from northern France, it gets quite cold here, I'm used to it
Humidity changes thibgs a lot
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>>2161909
how does replying asking why someone wastes their time posting such meager bait being offended
>trans people are a joke
ok if you say so champ I dont really care
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>>2160391
I have one for a tent (Pic related) (minus the head part, but inflateable)
If I put this into my hammock would that work?
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>>2161901
I've tried hanging one side of my hammock from a bike much heavier than that, and it started to tip as soon as I put any weight in the hammock. Just bring some extra straps to increase your tree range.
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>>2161094
You're not compressing the underquilt though so it retains its loft
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>>2163133
Yeah, but try fitting it inside your sleeping bag to stop it from slipping around
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>>2163386
Alright thx will do
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>>2160391
With a down bag definitely. Less so with synthetic. You can get sleeping bags down on top, synthetic bottom, can’t remember who makes them though.
May be discontinued now, I don’t imagine they were very popular.
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>>2160643
It’s not like the only thing you take it a tent. You also take a sleeping pad and blanket/bag, so the number of items is equivalent.
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>>2161901
What bug net is that
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>>2163133
under quilts are expensive and this is what I do , I used an ugly blue foam one though and just slide it in then use a winter sleeping bag.
it keeps me super warm
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>>2163133
yup, although you might slip off. I do. Under-inflate it slightly; that seems to help.
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>>2163133
I just use my soft gun case under my bag. Its fuzzy, reflects heat and is about as thick as the sleeping mat I used to use.
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>>2164526
It’s not expensive to make your own, and can get you down to 40* in winter mode and 55* in summer mode
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What if i had just the hammock quilt and bug net without the sleeping pad?
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>>2161901
Hammock stands are 50 lbs of steel like this
https://www.lasiesta.com/us/en/collection/stands-suspensions/la-siesta-nautico-cool-grey-powder-coated-steel-stand-for-kingsize-hammocks-nas20-19

Or they are two tripods with a spreader bar where the strength comes from anchoring into the ground
http://www.tatogear.com/outdoor/products/hammock-stands/
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>>2165026
>>2163133
Sleeping pads suck in hammocks, an underquilt is way better. Worst part about the pad is it is a vapor barrier where you don't want it.
The accessory to an underquilt is an impermeable silnylon undercover vapor barrier.
>>2160391
Undercover is almost always necessary with any wind movement,
Underquilt is necessary below 70.
More underquilt means less sleeping bag/top quilt.

How well the underquilt fits your hang dramatically influences performance.
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>>2164608
>65 dollars
might as well just buy one on amazon
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>>2162854
In Japan it’s a pain in the ass with all the fucking barren camp grounds designed for tents and car campers.
>>2163211
Thanks. I figured it out, I attached it to the rear wheel and put it in gear. With the center stand down the front wheel doesn’t make contact and it pulls directly backwards so it didn’t tip over.
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>>2165109
Yah, you do that lol
Shit suspension for it too
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>>2165109
the best cheap UQ is cedar ridge or hammock gear econ.
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>>2165405
how tf can you hang a hammock off a motorcycle wheel? you'd just be sleeping on the ground
>>2161068
>getting cold makes you a pussy
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>>2165535
dont listen to these negative fags anon, I used my hammock half a dozen times in the UP before I bought an underquilt and its a huge upgrade. There might be nothing comfier than softly swinging in warm puffy hammock after a long day of hiking. fuck being cold at night
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id rather be too warm than too cold.
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>>2161901

Tensahedron lad
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>>2164608
>>2160391
Just make one. Military mummy bags fit around a hammock and cover most of the body when zipped up.
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>>2166375
youll just have an extremely tight underquilt that will be much less effective when the insulation is compressed. Just get the right equipment or dont bother
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>>2163406

Seems like a great idea tho
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>>2166375
Dumb
It would either fall down onto the ground when you unzip it to get in or out, or a pain to get in without unzipping.
It is possible to convert an old sleeping bag to to be an underquilt by adding some suspension system to it tho
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>>2161062
doesn't guyana have those chagas disease bugs? what were your anti-bug measures?
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>>2161901
I like your set up. I was wondering what to do with my 130 lb beats while /out/. Hes a nightmare in a tent. Im going to try this.
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>>2166370
That looks so dope. More than a meme though?
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>>2167464

It's heavy duty. You probably would not want to backpack the thing; they make an UL option that doubles as a trecking pole. There is a bit of a learning curve to anchor strategy if you are setting up somewhere with very soft or very hard soil. The rigging seems like it was refined by a 4chan grade fanatical gear autist, and they sell replacement tubing and hardware.

Not a meme imo, but the full stand is too heavy to be suitable for backpacking.
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>>2167494


Hammock+ these things = as big or even bigger than just packing a small 1-2 Person tent with you.

The purpose of a hammoch is to save space and weight. aswell as beeing easier to set up. While I get the Idea its usefull in areas with no trees, it just doesn't make sense to me. Especially looking at the price, for which you could easily buy a tent for.

Ofc if you have the money and want to be fancy...
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>>2168032
>The purpose of a hammoch is to save space and weight.
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>>2161068
yeah. how bout i break ur legs.
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>>2168131
based hero /out/ needs but does not even slightly deserve
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>>2160391
IMO and from my experience - probably.
>be ausfag
>go hike camping for one night
>springtime, so still fairly hot
>keen to test out my new hammock setup
>has sleeping pad, no blanket, only towel because hot
>get high asf, nighttime comes
>me and friendanon retire
>oh no
>wind starts blowing
>c o l d
>can barely feel my toes or fingers
>back is cramping from cold
>even with a sleeping pad, the heat is being stolen from my body
>cover myself in anything and everything
>extra socks, extra clothes, towel, even friendanon's sleeping pad which was an old car seat
>still cold
>worst sleep of my life

It's best to be over-prepared and not sweat anything so simple as staying warm at night.
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>>2168216
the thing about a hammock is that it compresses any insulation between you and it while simultaneously being thin as fuck exposing your whole body (but mostly your butt) to heat transfer from wind. underquilt solves all these problems
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>>2168032
For me a hammock is about comfort. I like to sleep in it
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>>2163432
Grand Trunk Mozzy 360
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what underquilts are you lads using? the DD hammock one its like 1kg and bulky as fuck, id like something a bit lighter if possible
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>>2170382
dutchware, although i started with a serac double. Warbonnet is also popular. What suspension are you using? I used the eno atlas strap but they're mad heavy. Lot's of lighter options out there
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>>2168131
>thinks I'm afraid of a pussy
Kek
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>>2168032
>hammock is to save space & weight
wrong and is a meme. Hammock camping is for those who dont mind the weight and bulk for some extra comfort to not sleep on the ground in the outdoors.
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>>2170382
warbonnet makes good underquilts but I myself have a Snugpack Chinesium underquilt and other than adding 4 mini carabeaner's to hitch it to my hammock it has been amazing and I have not had a cold night yet in it down to 38 degrees. The issue is its bulky and weights 3 pounds but its pretty cheap and will cover you for everything but deep winter.
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somebody said something about comfy?

would be awesome to have an underquilt i could clip in place inside this thing..
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>>2161062
>cold
>23c
Huh?
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>>2171055
>suspension mounted tarp

Tell me more. Or is that some proprietary system?
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>>2167356
Pretty much everything tries to kill you, even a lot a the trees have razor-sharp leaves, a friend got a nasty cut on the forearm when he brushed a bush. Had to tend it every hour, and even then the wound was not good looking
Another friend got malaria, some others dengue, zika and even chik lol
Otherwise you just put long sleeves, long pants and you watch your steps for sneks

>>2171981
The wind (even just a slight breeze) combined with 5000% humidity makes it miserable
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>>2174066
>23C
>5000% humidity
>Atmospher is quite literally water
Anon, fish don't need hammocks. You live underwater, just go hide in the sea castle.
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>>2171055
Seems like a lot of unnecessary tension to place on your tarp using it as what is basically a structural ridge line.
I can’t imagine it will last long.
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>>2170680
Extra bulk and weight? Compared to what, a tent and a sleeping pad? I don't think.
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>>2174247
Seems to be attached with a bungee cord
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>>2174247
do you have any idea what youre talking about?
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>>2168216
>be ausfag
>get high asf
On what? Last time I was in Aus they had the shittiest weed I ever saw. Made brick mexican shit look like kind.
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>>2174247
are you dumb?
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I slept in my hammock in -10 C (14 F) without an underquilt and it was fine. Just make sure you have a good sleeping bag and something nice and insulated between you and the hammock.
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>>2163123
I don't care either which is why i'm making this reply to your post. Just because i don't care.
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>>2176295
This. Warm clothes (including socks and stocking cap) go a long way as well.
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>>2171998
Honestly it just looks like they added some tie off points to the the suspension line and then small carabiners to clip in the tarp. Similar on the side you just tie the pull outs together.

For just a little bit of wind I found tying a woobie under the hammock to do fine. I am interested in getting the hammock weather to a lower number although one it really starts to drop I just move to the bivy.
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>>2176295
Why are you lying tho?
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>>2170687
I can't find it online, can you post a link?
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>>2160391
Nah, I just finished my AT thru hike. And I was hiking with a guy who just had a hammock and a 50 degree sleeping bag the whole trail. He slept a night in the smokies when it got down to 10 degrees and he survived. Just learn to be uncomfortable and you are good
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>>2174849
mate you haven't been to Tweed then (aptly named), we're the weed capital of Aus and we got the best shit
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>>2176298
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>>2176747
The best ahit is still shit
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>>2160391
no, sleeping pads are better and do the same thing if you have no trees and have to sleep on the ground.
>>2161006
>>2163429
if you sleep hot, in the summer you just bring a hammock and a liner.
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>>2171055
How do you call the "ropes" going away from the hammock? i bought a rather cheap hammock but I can swap out the "ropes". Just dont know the names to buy them kek
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>>2160391
Hypothermia kinda sucks, so yes.
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>>2176931
>sleeping pads are better
>for use with a hammock
t. never hammock camped below 60*
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>>2177128
There are many types of suspensions for hammocks, but you should always use some kind of 1” or wider strap around the tree.
Here is series that covers everything
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLahaAdtfX9ZJ8QsJqWwRN4_MaZ8UAyzWm
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>>2161738
Very very late to the party but is this the same system? If so then what's the name of it?
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>>2176536
https://snugpakusa.com/product.php?id=88





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