oh no no no no how will conifer fags ever recoverthis meme was made by lush deciduous gang.
>wasting quads on such an abhorrent postWojakniggers should be killed and hung on a piano-wire.
>>1912222>makes a shitty image with text>thinks it is a meme
>>1912222>prone to wildfireany conifer thats 200 years old is a fire resistant one, fires range from every 5 to every 50 years for most zones with conifers>doesn’t adapt to warm environmentsmy local ponderosa/pinion/juniper woodlands regularly get over 100 in the summer
>>1912222Allah willing i will kill you one day.
>>1912222How's your leaves hanging on right now LOL
Enjoy your vitamin C deficiency and widowmakers, Eastards.
This is the most blessed thread I have seen in some time.The sheer cope from inferior climatelets stuck in dry, rocky, cold conifer country is positively astounding.
>>1912222>>1912483fuck off you DC faggots aren't welcome here
>>1912222>implying decidous trees don't coom as much*sniff* AAAAACHOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>1912501god damn do you ever get bored pasting this here? get a fucking life man
>doesn't adapt to warm environmentsuhh
Deciduous forest fags seething because all their trees look like shit now.
>>1913096Wtf? You cant hide from drones in that.
>>1912477The sun is vitamin D, uber faggot.
>>1912501I'm tempted to call you a niggerfaggot just to see what will happen>>1912222I chuckled. But where is the real deciduous forestanon who would shit up every thread?
>>1913202Here --> >>1912501And I suspect he is OP too.
>>1913186Literal buttfucking faggot, the sun is a god, your body uses the essence he gives you to make vitamin d.
>>1913069There are conifer forests from the tropics to the arctic, conifers have adapted to almost every climate.
>>1913215You literal son of ten thousand trannyfags, go be a an autistic semantic tripfag somewhere else.
>>1913234I have no desire to be a an autistic semantic tripfag anywhere though.
>doesnt like the taste of pine nutsall fields
>OP posts meme about tree superiority>thread quickly devolves into literal autists screaming at each other while frothing at the mouthbased
>>1913234If you don't know the difference between a tripfag, and a namefag, you have to go back
>>1913620so we all agree deciduous forests are superior and >muh conifer countryis just settling for less?
Coonifer country fags seething rn
>tfw tropical broadleaf evergreensBest of both worlds. Tropical forests are the scourge of temperate mono-culture and lack of floral diversity. Worst case scenario one species decides to drop leaves during the dry season month. The temperate zone is a massive biological cope
>>1913941stop bumping your own thread faggot
>>1912222I quite like them
>>1912222>prone to wildfirePonderosa Pine, Sequoia, California Redwood, Longleaf Pine>fruiting body doesn't even taste good Pinyon pines, Yew arils, Juniper berries>needly and frail Cupressaceae family, Sugar pine>hides in the mountains Bald Cypress, California Redwoods, Monterey Cypress, White Pine>doesn't adapt to warm environments Loblolly Pine, Pinyon Pine, Black Hills White Spruce, Longleaf Pine, Bald Cypress, White Pine (to some extent)>always stays green Larch is deciduous >smells like resinSo?And that's just the North American ones off the top of my head. I would almost be inclined to think this was bait.
>>1913646>Imagine getting triggered over getting wrong the unwritten rules of a vietnamese rice growing forum.
>>1913971Except that conifers don't replenish the soil as much as a deciduous forest can. The leaves dropping and fungi turning them into nutrients is a process lacking in most coniferous environments.
>>1914292the whole point is that they usually inhabit suboptimal environments (north slopes, weathered soils, high altitude, etc.) where hardwoods cant thrive.and conifer forests still have plenty of mycorrhizae. see spruce/most PNW forests.
>>1914382>they usually inhabit suboptimal environmentsI just wanted you to admit this. THEY LITERALLY ADMIT CONIFER COUNTRY IS SUBOPTIMAL ENVIRONMENTthanks for self owning!i'll enjoy my temperate forests where it isn't below freezing all winter!i'm not saying there's no fungi, I'm saying they don't have a thicc layer of leaves to reprocess into nutrients for ground plants to use
This thread can't go down the shitter soon enough
Conifers provide edible inner bark and highly nutritious tea all year round, and many have edible pine cone seeds. The resin makes a great desinfectant and glue, but also a good oil. The roots make great quick cordage for. Conifers are some of the most useful trees ever.
>>1912222>didnt fucking add "cannot into toilet paper"
Maybe I'll go out and harvest more fatwood, or maybe not. I have so much already. Suck it, Eastards.
>>1914787what is fatwood?
>>1914859The sap saturated inner core of a good tree Burns like a candle
>>1914875burns like a candle how?my understanding is that conifers burn a lot less hot and a lot more quickly than hardwood
Is anybody here an expert at cold stratification? I’m a newb here, collected pic related so I can start a few bonsai forests. Any experience with these?> sugarberry > tulip poplar> dogwood> hornbeam> hophornbeam> box elder> Osage orange> Carolina buckthorn> black walnut> hickory> oak> catalpa > Virginia creeper> frost grape> ash
>>1912222>Fruiting body doesn't taste good. I mean pine nuts are pretty good. I'd still prefer shagbark hickories 9 times out of 10 but this statement is just disingenuous.
>>1914878Have you ever seen a candle you dumb fucking nigger
>>1914917do you mean burns fast or slow? like some candles are designed to burn rapidly, some are designed to burn for days so I'm not sure what you mean
>>1914919t. Never seen a candle
>>1912222Conifer trees height mog angiospermcels
>>1914924there are a few stands of old growth hardwoods in the east but most of it got loggedtry hearts content scenic area near the allegheny national forest in pa, there are trees almost that big there
>>1914884Not an expert though the process is relatively similar for most species. Keep the seeds moist until you want to stratify, then place them in a sealed container or bag full of moist sand or moss. Stratify at 33-40f for 30-120 days depending on species (read up on each species, 90 days is usually pretty universal), sow in their preferred soil type for the species around spring time or just before. If they germinate during stratification then sow them right then. Currently stratifying black walnut, sycamore, alder, juniper, and ash with this method.You can also scarify first (not all species like this so I usually skip it, but a pre-stratify soak in warm water is usually fine though) then warm stratify them in a sealed container or bag with moist sand or moss at room temp for several months before cold stratification as well, just keep them moist (not dry but not soaking, a simple spray bottle works well).
Pine nuts, an essential part of a balanced mesolithic breakfast
>>1914924>cant even grab limbs to climb>need special apparatus to climbSad
>>1912222OP is a faggot
What if I like both?
>>1915129>climbSee a possible mating partner up there?
>>1915129sounds sub optimal>>1915130there is no need for homophobic slurs here
>>1915129these trees were not put on earth for you to climb. look dont touch
>live in the western rockies>aspens down low>conifers up high>get best of both worlds in the same hike
>>1915349Is there a place with both? Minnesota?
>>1912222Dangerously based, deciduous chads reflect the truth of life that from the ground we come and to the ground we shall return. A walk through eastern forests is a reminder of the transient nature of the material world. Coniferlets cannot fathom this.
WHY. IS .THIS. STILL. UP.also >>1915914, stop bumping your own thread, samefaggot.
>>1915928Seething, not OP just having a little fun on a Sunday, it's called we have a little fun
>>1915928Why do you care? Talking about different biomes is interesting anyway.
>>1915950I have fun shitting on shitty threads. Seethers also have the right to have fun their way.>>1915977It's literally 2 people and that was days ago. 90% of the thread is either shitposting, seething or faggot OP bumping his faggot thread.
>>1915896Evergreens and deciduous trees exist in every decent /out/ state.
>>1916078Which ones are those?
>>1916079Anywhere along the East Coast, for one. New England is the best forest I've found.
>>1916076And? There's more than 70 posters. How does your retarded answer counterargues the fact that is 2 people not shitposting or talking shit in the thread chimp coom brain?
>>1916167>It's literally 2 people>>1916082Even Florida?
>tfw OP>tfw this is my first post ITT aside from the OPstay mad conifer fags. The deciduous gang is so large that I didn't even need to bump this post.
>>1915896Mixed forests are widespread in the east.
Imagine being enthused about a tree not able to save your life in winter.
>>1916078They exist in literally every state. The difference is mixed forests in the east are at sea level upward and require more moisture and more widespread, while mixed forests out west are usually higher than 4,000ft except in riparian areas where they occur lower and can handle droughts. >>1915896The entire east from Arkansas/Missouri/Minnesota eastward. Most of the forested far north, and riparian and middle/high elevations in every state out west even in "desert" states.
>>1916540Where is that in the pic?
>>1916568W. Fork Oak Creek, AZ, ironically there's also a news site from east Tennessee that uses it to depict a place in TN.
>>1916540So the East has both but the West mostly just has conifers?
>>1916773For the most part, though as I said mixed forests exist in every state and conifer forests are not always exclusive out west despite making up the raw bulk.
>>1914947Thanks lad, I appreciate that
>>1916773the East. in general. has a lot more WATER which hardwoods need to survive. The further north you go in the East, and the higher the elevation the more conifers you get. If you have an exposed mountain ridge, more conifers. A protected valley? More hardwoods. For example, in West Virginia above 3000-3500 feet it transitions to more conifers and above 4500 feet it is almost entirely conifers (natively). Conifers occur where it is too dry, too cold, or both, to support hardwoods.
>>1917111What about pine forests in the southeast? I have always wondered why pines dominate there despite it being both warm and wet.
>>1917223That's a really good question and I'm not sure the precise answer but I would assume the climate is too extreme to support more deciduous trees. Possibly too hot would be my guess as conifers are found in the american southeast where it doesn't get especially cold in the winter.
>>1912365her eyebrows look retarded
>>1912222>he thinks conifers are the only evergreensUHHHH ever heard of a California Live Oak, buddy?
How can needle cucks recover?
>>1912222>Needing to be cucked by literal insects to reproduce.Yeah no thanks.
>>1919024>can't even stay attached to the tree during cold monthssad
FUCK conifer country
>>1915402kill youself faggot
>>1913620thats gordon not thomas
>>1914924>Conifer trees height mog angiospermcels4 of the 10 tallest species are angiosperms. Coast redwoodConiferYellow Meranti Flowering plantMountain ashFlowering plantCoast Douglas-fir ConiferSitka spruceConiferGiant sequoiaConiferTaiwania cryptomerioides ConiferManna gumFlowering plantSouthern blue gumFlowering plantNoble FirConifer18 of the top 29 are flowering plants
>>1912222200yrs? What about 1000yr old Douglas Firs?
>>1912222>not living at the superior 2500ft - 4500ft altitude range in the lower Sequoias wherein grow both coniferous pines and deciduous oaks and cotton woods>not having a soft wood and hard wood axe and chainsaw set up Imagine it
>>1918978Based and Oak-pilled Fellow California nature appreciator is respected and honored by all.
>>1913186>he doesn't know about the needlesHoly shit imagine not having foliage filled with vitamin C
>>1924556The spergs keep making the memes lol
>>1930206Hey pal, just a quick trick for you. whenever you want to bump a thread, don't forget to write "sage" in the options box.
>>1930218announcing sage is a reportable offence
>>1930328Not announcing it, though.
>>1924580or 5000 year old bristlecones
>>1933346looks dry parched even
>>1912222Best thread in a while.Thank you OP.
>>1913646You are a trip- & a namefag.You are a dualfag.
>>1924397>All the people
>>1914384>Implying ecological resilience isn't a virtue>Implying desert, alpine, or nutrient deprived plants aren't some of the most interesting to study cucc
>>1934667>Honey, it's 5pm, time for your ring barking
>>1924564>Mountain ash>Manna gum>Southern blue gumSomeone spoke of eucalyptuses, I'm here to take care of them.
>>1913096I actually like bare deciduous forest. The crunch of the leaves, the crisp cold air with a hint of sweet decay. Makes me wanna go camping.
>>1913813God I wish that were me.
>>1913813Get a job faggot
>>1938124there is no need for homophobic slurs here
>>1912336Based and Quran pilled
Deciduous>sheds leaves that rot and are ugly and slippery>piles of fallen leaves perfect for vermin inhabitation>boring "forest", might as well be in a city park>becomes a grey wasteland come winterConifer>shed needles are dry, soft, and insulating>no better smell in the world than the air of a remote conifer forest>can make tea from new needles>beautiful all year round>comfy as fuckYeah I don't see how anyone can prefer deciduous forests.
>>1938252I find deciduous forests beautiful in late fall and winter. Even into november here there's still a hint of color on the trees that you wouldn't find in conifer country and there still are SOME coniferous trees here, just mostly deciduous broadleaf frens. >Yeah I don't see how anyone can prefer deciduous forests.Because my main point is deciduous forests producer a denser forest canopy that is both prettier and nicer for shade.
Don't get me wrong, I like them too... But mostly for day trips (pic related from a recent outing). If I'm camping I'd much rather be in a conifer wood, for the reasons above. t. central european
>>1938560In response to>>1938525
>>1938126Get a job faggot
>>1930328Your face is a bannable offence.
>>1917223soil too dry and sandy I think?
>>1938601We still haven't solved this mystery, sadly.
>>1938563there is no need for homophobic slurs here
>>1940437I'm not afraid of faggots, I just hate them
>>1940445Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear and ignorance, and is often related to religious beliefs.
>>1940448There's nothing "irrational" about my hatred for faggots. They have corrupted Western civilization and imposed their agenda and mental illnesses upon the population at large. The slippery slope that the Christians warned of 30 years ago ended up being completely true. So I'll say again: shut the fuck up, faggot. Also, nice NewSpeak. Faggots don't get to redefine words to push their agenda. If you aren't afraid of gay people, you don't have a phobia of them because that's what a phobia is. "Homophobia" is a made-up term used to label anyone who doesn't comply with GloboHomo as someone who is mentally ill, ironically.
gayness in the anus...
>>1940448I'm still mad about you ruining my Caucasus thread faggot. If I see a gay amerifat I will behead him like isis. Also conifers usually suck but you learn to love them if they aren't in marshes
>>1940448>Irrational fear and ignoranceImplying it's not rational to hate faggotry and its associated rampant degeneracy
>>1941575degeneracy has no meaning beyond "things you do not like" so yeah thats not rationalthe fact that you have to resort to slurs and emotionally charged language indicates this is rooted in your emotions, not any rational argument.
>>1916469Deciduousfags will never know the pure, unadulterated joy of laying underneath a young red spruce as a child while watching a gentle snowfall on a cold, crisp December afternoon.
>>1916469To be fair they can also kill you
>>1943832>getting trapped under snowLOL! Just eat it?
>>1943832Thanks for poasting this OP, this is my first season skiing. Might come in handy.
>>1914896distill juniper berries into gin
>>1916782>Black Hills>NonforestedInto the trash it goes
>>1934575>>1934663>>1934667It has outlasted the soil it was rooted in, give it some credit
>>1917223>>1939398>>1938601they grow where the soil is sandy or well drained and naturally has regular fires
>>1948310Post a better one?
I don't care what deciduoniggers think; conifer forests are comfier.
>>1949239I am starting to agree.