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oh no no no no how will conifer fags ever recover

this meme was made by lush deciduous gang.
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>wasting quads on such an abhorrent post
Wojakniggers should be killed and hung on a piano-wire.
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>>1912222
>makes a shitty image with text
>thinks it is a meme
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>>1912222
>prone to wildfire
any conifer thats 200 years old is a fire resistant one, fires range from every 5 to every 50 years for most zones with conifers
>doesn’t adapt to warm environments
my local ponderosa/pinion/juniper woodlands regularly get over 100 in the summer
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>>1912222
Allah willing i will kill you one day.
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>>1912222
How's your leaves hanging on right now LOL
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>>1912222
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>>1912222
I laughed.
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Enjoy your vitamin C deficiency and widowmakers, Eastards.
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This is the most blessed thread I have seen in some time.

The sheer cope from inferior climatelets stuck in dry, rocky, cold conifer country is positively astounding.
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>>1912222
>>1912483
fuck off you DC faggots aren't welcome here
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>>1912222
>implying decidous trees don't coom as much
*sniff* AAAAACHOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>1912560
KEK
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>>1912501
god damn do you ever get bored pasting this here? get a fucking life man
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>doesn't adapt to warm environments

uhh
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Deciduous forest fags seething because all their trees look like shit now.
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>>1913096
Wtf? You cant hide from drones in that.
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>>1912477
The sun is vitamin D, uber faggot.
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>>1912501
I'm tempted to call you a niggerfaggot just to see what will happen

>>1912222
I chuckled. But where is the real deciduous forestanon who would shit up every thread?
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>>1913202
Here --> >>1912501

And I suspect he is OP too.
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>>1913186
Literal buttfucking faggot, the sun is a god, your body uses the essence he gives you to make vitamin d.
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>>1913069
There are conifer forests from the tropics to the arctic, conifers have adapted to almost every climate.
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>>1913215
You literal son of ten thousand trannyfags, go be a an autistic semantic tripfag somewhere else.
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>>1913234
I have no desire to be a an autistic semantic tripfag anywhere though.
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>doesnt like the taste of pine nuts
all fields
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>OP posts meme about tree superiority
>thread quickly devolves into literal autists screaming at each other while frothing at the mouth
based
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>>1913234
If you don't know the difference between a tripfag, and a namefag, you have to go back
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>>1913620
so we all agree deciduous forests are superior and

>muh conifer country

is just settling for less?
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Coonifer country fags seething rn
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>>1913068
>triggered
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>tfw tropical broadleaf evergreens
Best of both worlds. Tropical forests are the scourge of temperate mono-culture and lack of floral diversity. Worst case scenario one species decides to drop leaves during the dry season month. The temperate zone is a massive biological cope
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>>1912222
Peak autism
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>>1913941
stop bumping your own thread faggot
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>>1912222
I quite like them
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>>1912222
>prone to wildfire
Ponderosa Pine, Sequoia, California Redwood, Longleaf Pine
>fruiting body doesn't even taste good
Pinyon pines, Yew arils, Juniper berries
>needly and frail
Cupressaceae family, Sugar pine
>hides in the mountains
Bald Cypress, California Redwoods, Monterey Cypress, White Pine
>doesn't adapt to warm environments
Loblolly Pine, Pinyon Pine, Black Hills White Spruce, Longleaf Pine, Bald Cypress, White Pine (to some extent)
>always stays green
Larch is deciduous
>smells like resin
So?

And that's just the North American ones off the top of my head. I would almost be inclined to think this was bait.
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>>1913646
>Imagine getting triggered over getting wrong the unwritten rules of a vietnamese rice growing forum.
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>>1913971
Except that conifers don't replenish the soil as much as a deciduous forest can. The leaves dropping and fungi turning them into nutrients is a process lacking in most coniferous environments.
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>>1914292
the whole point is that they usually inhabit suboptimal environments (north slopes, weathered soils, high altitude, etc.) where hardwoods cant thrive.

and conifer forests still have plenty of mycorrhizae. see spruce/most PNW forests.
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>>1914382
>they usually inhabit suboptimal environments

I just wanted you to admit this.

THEY LITERALLY ADMIT CONIFER COUNTRY IS SUBOPTIMAL ENVIRONMENT

thanks for self owning!

i'll enjoy my temperate forests where it isn't below freezing all winter!

i'm not saying there's no fungi, I'm saying they don't have a thicc layer of leaves to reprocess into nutrients for ground plants to use
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This thread can't go down the shitter soon enough
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Conifers provide edible inner bark and highly nutritious tea all year round, and many have edible pine cone seeds. The resin makes a great desinfectant and glue, but also a good oil. The roots make great quick cordage for. Conifers are some of the most useful trees ever.
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>>1912222
>didnt fucking add "cannot into toilet paper"
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Maybe I'll go out and harvest more fatwood, or maybe not. I have so much already. Suck it, Eastards.
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>>1914787
what is fatwood?
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>>1914859
The sap saturated inner core of a good tree

Burns like a candle
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>>1914875
burns like a candle how?

my understanding is that conifers burn a lot less hot and a lot more quickly than hardwood
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Is anybody here an expert at cold stratification? I’m a newb here, collected pic related so I can start a few bonsai forests. Any experience with these?

> sugarberry
> tulip poplar
> dogwood
> hornbeam
> hophornbeam
> box elder
> Osage orange
> Carolina buckthorn
> black walnut
> hickory
> oak
> catalpa
> Virginia creeper
> frost grape
> ash
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>>1912222
>Fruiting body doesn't taste good.
I mean pine nuts are pretty good. I'd still prefer shagbark hickories 9 times out of 10 but this statement is just disingenuous.
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>>1914859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpRf3Sdxcm8
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>>1914878
Have you ever seen a candle you dumb fucking nigger
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>>1914917
do you mean burns fast or slow? like some candles are designed to burn rapidly, some are designed to burn for days so I'm not sure what you mean
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>>1914919
t. Never seen a candle
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>>1912222
Conifer trees height mog angiospermcels
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>>1914924
there are a few stands of old growth hardwoods in the east but most of it got logged

try hearts content scenic area near the allegheny national forest in pa, there are trees almost that big there
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>>1914884
Not an expert though the process is relatively similar for most species. Keep the seeds moist until you want to stratify, then place them in a sealed container or bag full of moist sand or moss. Stratify at 33-40f for 30-120 days depending on species (read up on each species, 90 days is usually pretty universal), sow in their preferred soil type for the species around spring time or just before. If they germinate during stratification then sow them right then. Currently stratifying black walnut, sycamore, alder, juniper, and ash with this method.

You can also scarify first (not all species like this so I usually skip it, but a pre-stratify soak in warm water is usually fine though) then warm stratify them in a sealed container or bag with moist sand or moss at room temp for several months before cold stratification as well, just keep them moist (not dry but not soaking, a simple spray bottle works well).
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>>1913620
>based
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Pine nuts, an essential part of a balanced mesolithic breakfast
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>>1914924
>cant even grab limbs to climb
>need special apparatus to climb

Sad
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>>1912222
OP is a faggot
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What if I like both?
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>>1915129
>climb
See a possible mating partner up there?
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>>1915129
sounds sub optimal

>>1915130
there is no need for homophobic slurs here
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>>1915129
these trees were not put on earth for you to climb. look dont touch
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>live in the western rockies
>aspens down low
>conifers up high
>get best of both worlds in the same hike
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>>1915349
Is there a place with both? Minnesota?
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>>1915623
Kill yourself
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>>1912222
Dangerously based, deciduous chads reflect the truth of life that from the ground we come and to the ground we shall return. A walk through eastern forests is a reminder of the transient nature of the material world. Coniferlets cannot fathom this.
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WHY. IS .THIS. STILL. UP.

also >>1915914, stop bumping your own thread, samefaggot.
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>>1915928
Seething, not OP just having a little fun on a Sunday, it's called we have a little fun
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>>1915928
Why do you care? Talking about different biomes is interesting anyway.
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>>1915950
I have fun shitting on shitty threads. Seethers also have the right to have fun their way.
>>1915977
It's literally 2 people and that was days ago. 90% of the thread is either shitposting, seething or faggot OP bumping his faggot thread.
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>>1916018
>50 IPs
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>>1915896
Evergreens and deciduous trees exist in every decent /out/ state.
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>>1916078
Which ones are those?
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>>1916079
Anywhere along the East Coast, for one. New England is the best forest I've found.
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>>1916076
And? There's more than 70 posters. How does your retarded answer counterargues the fact that is 2 people not shitposting or talking shit in the thread chimp coom brain?
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>>1916167
>It's literally 2 people
>>1916082
Even Florida?
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>tfw OP
>tfw this is my first post ITT aside from the OP
stay mad conifer fags. The deciduous gang is so large that I didn't even need to bump this post.
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>>1916176
based
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>>1915896
Mixed forests are widespread in the east.
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Imagine being enthused about a tree not able to save your life in winter.
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>>1916078
They exist in literally every state. The difference is mixed forests in the east are at sea level upward and require more moisture and more widespread, while mixed forests out west are usually higher than 4,000ft except in riparian areas where they occur lower and can handle droughts.

>>1915896
The entire east from Arkansas/Missouri/Minnesota eastward. Most of the forested far north, and riparian and middle/high elevations in every state out west even in "desert" states.
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>>1916540
Where is that in the pic?
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>>1916568
W. Fork Oak Creek, AZ, ironically there's also a news site from east Tennessee that uses it to depict a place in TN.
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>>1916540
So the East has both but the West mostly just has
conifers?
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>>1916773
For the most part, though as I said mixed forests exist in every state and conifer forests are not always exclusive out west despite making up the raw bulk.
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>>1914947

Thanks lad, I appreciate that
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>>1916773
the East. in general. has a lot more WATER which hardwoods need to survive. The further north you go in the East, and the higher the elevation the more conifers you get. If you have an exposed mountain ridge, more conifers. A protected valley? More hardwoods. For example, in West Virginia above 3000-3500 feet it transitions to more conifers and above 4500 feet it is almost entirely conifers (natively).

Conifers occur where it is too dry, too cold, or both, to support hardwoods.
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>>1917111
What about pine forests in the southeast? I have always wondered why pines dominate there despite it being both warm and wet.
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>>1917223
That's a really good question and I'm not sure the precise answer but I would assume the climate is too extreme to support more deciduous trees. Possibly too hot would be my guess as conifers are found in the american southeast where it doesn't get especially cold in the winter.
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bump
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>>1912365
her eyebrows look retarded
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>>1912222
>he thinks conifers are the only evergreens
UHHHH ever heard of a California Live Oak, buddy?
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How can needle cucks recover?
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>>1912222
>Needing to be cucked by literal insects to reproduce.

Yeah no thanks.
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>>1915896
Yes
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>>1919024
>can't even stay attached to the tree during cold months

sad
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FUCK conifer country
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>>1915402
kill youself faggot
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bumpy
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bump
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>>1914051
>Imagine
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>>1913620
thats gordon not thomas
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>>1914924
>Conifer trees height mog angiospermcels
4 of the 10 tallest species are angiosperms.


Coast redwoodConifer
Yellow Meranti Flowering plant
Mountain ashFlowering plant
Coast Douglas-fir Conifer
Sitka spruceConifer
Giant sequoiaConifer
Taiwania cryptomerioides Conifer
Manna gumFlowering plant
Southern blue gumFlowering plant
Noble FirConifer

18 of the top 29 are flowering plants
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>>1912222
200yrs? What about 1000yr old Douglas Firs?
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>>1912222
>not living at the superior 2500ft - 4500ft altitude range in the lower Sequoias wherein grow both coniferous pines and deciduous oaks and cotton woods

>not having a soft wood and hard wood axe and chainsaw set up

Imagine it
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>>1918978
Based and Oak-pilled

Fellow California nature appreciator is respected and honored by all.
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>>1912242
>Reductive reply
>Matters
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>>1913186
>he doesn't know about the needles
Holy shit imagine not having foliage filled with vitamin C
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>>1924556
The spergs keep making the memes lol
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bump
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>>1930206
Hey pal, just a quick trick for you. whenever you want to bump a thread, don't forget to write "sage" in the options box.
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>>1930218
announcing sage is a reportable offence
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>>1930328
Not announcing it, though.
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bump
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>>1924580
or 5000 year old bristlecones
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>>1933346
looks dry

parched even
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>>1912222
Best thread in a while.
Thank you OP.
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>>1933346
>that tree
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>>1934663
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>>1913646
You are a trip- & a namefag.
You are a dualfag.
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>>1924397
>All the people
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>>1914384
>Implying ecological resilience isn't a virtue
>Implying desert, alpine, or nutrient deprived plants aren't some of the most interesting to study

cucc
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>>1934667
>Honey, it's 5pm, time for your ring barking
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>>1912365
>weab
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>>1924564
>Mountain ash
>Manna gum
>Southern blue gum
Someone spoke of eucalyptuses, I'm here to take care of them.
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>>1913096
I actually like bare deciduous forest. The crunch of the leaves, the crisp cold air with a hint of sweet decay. Makes me wanna go camping.
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>>1934667
kek
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>>1913813
God I wish that were me.
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>>1914959
Ethnicity.
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>>1937690
what?
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>>1913813
Get a job faggot
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>>1938124
there is no need for homophobic slurs here
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>>1912336
Based and Quran pilled
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Deciduous
>sheds leaves that rot and are ugly and slippery
>piles of fallen leaves perfect for vermin inhabitation
>boring "forest", might as well be in a city park
>becomes a grey wasteland come winter
Conifer
>shed needles are dry, soft, and insulating
>no better smell in the world than the air of a remote conifer forest
>can make tea from new needles
>beautiful all year round
>comfy as fuck
Yeah I don't see how anyone can prefer deciduous forests.
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>>1938252
I find deciduous forests beautiful in late fall and winter. Even into november here there's still a hint of color on the trees that you wouldn't find in conifer country and there still are SOME coniferous trees here, just mostly deciduous broadleaf frens.

>Yeah I don't see how anyone can prefer deciduous forests.

Because my main point is deciduous forests producer a denser forest canopy that is both prettier and nicer for shade.
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Don't get me wrong, I like them too... But mostly for day trips (pic related from a recent outing). If I'm camping I'd much rather be in a conifer wood, for the reasons above.
t. central european
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>>1938560
In response to
>>1938525
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>>1938126
Get a job faggot
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>>1930328
Your face is a bannable offence.
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>>1917223
soil too dry and sandy I think?
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>>1938601
We still haven't solved this mystery, sadly.
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bump
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>>1938563
there is no need for homophobic slurs here
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>>1940437
I'm not afraid of faggots, I just hate them
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>>1940445
Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear and ignorance, and is often related to religious beliefs.
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>>1940448
There's nothing "irrational" about my hatred for faggots. They have corrupted Western civilization and imposed their agenda and mental illnesses upon the population at large. The slippery slope that the Christians warned of 30 years ago ended up being completely true. So I'll say again: shut the fuck up, faggot. Also, nice NewSpeak. Faggots don't get to redefine words to push their agenda. If you aren't afraid of gay people, you don't have a phobia of them because that's what a phobia is. "Homophobia" is a made-up term used to label anyone who doesn't comply with GloboHomo as someone who is mentally ill, ironically.
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gayness in the anus...
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>>1940448
I'm still mad about you ruining my Caucasus thread faggot. If I see a gay amerifat I will behead him like isis.

Also conifers usually suck but you learn to love them if they aren't in marshes
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>>1940448
>Irrational fear and ignorance

Implying it's not rational to hate faggotry and its associated rampant degeneracy
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>>1941575
degeneracy has no meaning beyond "things you do not like" so yeah thats not rational

the fact that you have to resort to slurs and emotionally charged language indicates this is rooted in your emotions, not any rational argument.
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bump
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>>1916469
Deciduousfags will never know the pure, unadulterated joy of laying underneath a young red spruce as a child while watching a gentle snowfall on a cold, crisp December afternoon.
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>>1916469
To be fair they can also kill you
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>>1943832
>getting trapped under snow
LOL! Just eat it?
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bump
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>>1943832
Thanks for poasting this OP, this is my first season skiing. Might come in handy.
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>>1914896
distill juniper berries into gin
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>>1912222
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>>1918829
>her
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>>1916782
>Black Hills
>Nonforested
Into the trash it goes
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>>1934575
>>1934663
>>1934667
It has outlasted the soil it was rooted in, give it some credit
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>>1917223
>>1939398
>>1938601
they grow where the soil is sandy or well drained and naturally has regular fires
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>>1948310
Post a better one?
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I don't care what deciduoniggers think; conifer forests are comfier.
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>>1949239
I am starting to agree.





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