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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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Post patches
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I'm pretty sure you're the one I bought top left from. People I meet love it. I'd like to get top right, but I'm afraid people would think I'm an autistic retard (more than they already do).
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Just received my patches and I'm absolutely loving these. Will definitely buy more in the future. Thanks!
what tf even is this?

Is this good reading material when I go camping next week? Will I need a headlight or is the moon usually bright enough
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>go /out/
>spend all day staring at a dead pulped tree
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A Psalm For the Wild Built is pretty kino. The unsettling of American culture agriculture is heavy but important and I've got the living mountain on my list too.

Fuck off namefag.
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Scifi is pretty good outdoors for the starry night spooks

Ignore tripfags, hide tripfag posts
top bugman shit

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I feel like you can't really enjoy /out/ if you aren't American. Almost every post is US/Canada related, there's not discussion about Europe, South America, Asia or the rest of the world.

Picture: Teide National Park on Tenerife, Spain.
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>i explored 20 miles around my house
>let me tell you everything about this continent
are there any efforts to reforest portugal by the government or conservation groups? or even some private individuals growing forests on their land?
>look at an aerial view of japan, it's ALL city.
you haven't looked at an aerial map of japan
ye i found a site that made seeds available through post offices all over and they had set goals. too tired to find an update though. i don't watch the news so i don't know about the government, what i do know is that every once in a while they'll go "oh no! our forests are all burning to the ground!", then silence.
why do your forests burn down so regularly?

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Anyone got buck fever? I'm chasing a big boy on my land. Going to let the spot cool off until this Friday. I heard him chuffin in a ceder stand Saturday.
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There will be other opportunities and experiencing that buck fever was a good learning experience. You also learned how to use other hunters movements to your advantage. All valuable lessons to a hunter. I'd say you had a successful hunt all things considered. Get back out there and keep at it.
No joke, hard cast lead.
The hard casting process leads to basically 100% weight retention on soft targets like deer. The problem is you can't humanely use hard cast for smaller calibers since they don't expand and pencil sized holes isn't something you want to try killing an animal with. So you want something probably 44 cal minimum, but you also can't send hard cast bullets much faster than 1600fps unless the alloy is sufficiently hard.(they will go straight through any animal even at 1100fps)
I used my 45-70 and 500gr hard casts. In one side, out the other as a .458 sized hole in both.
Sorry to hear anon.
I was curious what that was going to be like this year since I hadn't been able to hunt in a decade when I was much younger.
When it came time to shoot, everything was automatic including follow-up shots. I don't remember much until I was field dressing.
I practiced shooting both on the bench and off-hand a great deal prior to the season, if you can, be sure that you practice plenty and are comfortable.
>Already have some venison in the fridge that I need to finish processing so buck hunting only right now.
explain to an nurbanite lurker the logic behind this plz
You have a lower chance of getting a buck and since he already has meat in the freezer, there's less of a reason to hunt a doe.

Any of you anons do it? Seems like it'd be far more fun than just camping out in a stand and just twiddling your thumbs until something walks in your line of sight. How much more difficult is it?
>Seems like it'd be far more fun than just camping out in a stand and just twiddling your thumbs until something walks in your line of sight.
Want to know how i know that you're an underaged LARPerator who has never gone outside?
There's a reason its called STILL hunting though.

If you have a hard time sitting in a stand, you are probably too ADHD to be able to move slowly enough to successfully still hunt.

That said, Yeah, I do it. There is a very steep learning curve. Its fun, but I havent been successful yet. You have to be paying attention to wind, your movement, and the movement around you all at the same time.

I prefer tracking in snow or saddle hunting, but still hunting i great if you want to combine hunting with scouting a new area.
Spot and stalk is the most fun. But if I’m not spotting anything from the hill, I’ll still hunt. It’s a slow process and you most learn to use your binos to look through trees.
>If you have a hard time sitting in a stand, you are probably too ADHD to be able to move slowly enough to successfully still hunt
I still think sneaking through the woods in a slow methodical way would be more engaging than passively sitting in a stand. Sitting in a stand has appeal, but it's more tranquil than fun I'd say.
Still hunting and stand hunting doesn't really work where I am, so spot and stalk is what we do here.

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I fucking hate having to spray pesticides on my crops because even at "safe" levels the chemicals are still in the food. I don't wanna eat that shit, but I also don't want those FAGGOT ASS TOMATO HORNWORMS, CORNWORMS AND JAP BEATLES TO EAT MY HARD WORK. How the hell can I stop pests without giving myself cancer in 50 years?
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Read Four Season Harvest by Eliot Coleman it's a very good book
Idk don't people plant tobacco next to their tomatoes to achieve that?
DDT is still legally used in some applications, mainly mosquito control in unpopulated areas.

Research BT.

Its just a bacteria that disrupts the digestive system of certain orders of insects and kills them. It's an organic biological pesticide. No effect on humans.

its usually used for lepidopterans (things that turn into moths and butterflies, like hornworm and cornworm), but they have formulations for beetles too. hymenopterans (which are "bees," but its weird because bees are a broader category than you think, and some "caterpillars" are actually bee larvae) are unaffected.

Basically, BT is awesome, but you have to know some basic insect shit and not be a total fucking retard to use it properly, but its great if you dont like spraying sevin on your food.

Source: licensed master pesticide applicator in Maine.

How hard would it be to source some kind of predator in the UK, and how hard would it be to release it without it being traced back to me? England needs some kind of predator to control the deer population, just shooting them is not enough as it doesn't affect their movement patterns and hunting generally isn't allowed in places like pic related where the deer completely destroy the undergrowth and prevent new healthy forests from growing
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You are the kind of retards than "liberate" stuff like bisons than then kill the native species.
>real life experience is meaningless compared to scientists who never leave their university in they're major metropolitan center!
How about you just stick to the day hiking threads and let people who actually go /out/ talk about the big boy stuff, okay kiddo?
You could introduce CWD from the United States to control your deer population but that really really isn't a good idea.
bison are native to britain
based man

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>walk deep Into forest
>find small bushy hide away
>stretch nude on yoga mat >meditating

Birds sing beautiful sounds
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Get bit by every bug possible
Yes perfect
Really sad that people are like that, I mean how can any not enjoy the outdoors and feel at peace.
>walk deep into my mothers basement
>find a small trash den
>curl up naked into lardball
>advertisements blaring, piercing the veil of my sanity

Does anyone here work on a animal farm/slaughterhouse? How is it?

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rate my wooden fort!
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Who builds these things? I find them everywhere out in the woods when I'm walking my dog
I built a lot of those when I was a kid.
Looks alright. Would probably use for bedding and cover if I was trapped in the woods with no tent.
You said there's unused sawed timber around? Build a nice tall Teepee structure. Or a large A-Frame style one next. Would love to see you make your encampment a lot bigger and better.
What this anon said. >>2257593
Use to make em as a teen/kid for fun with my friends. Still see some every now and then.
what's a good teepee framework? i don't have any nails besides the ones i find on the ground, i straighten them out with a brick i found and then hammer them into planks i find, with a brick.

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What are the legal ramifications of living in the woods?
Not trying to larp but if tomorrow I decided I wanted to live a nomadic life, what laws would I be breaking?
In this larp I would be carrying around a pistol and shotgun. Both openly.
I would fish for food and possibly some small game.
If I'm able to find someone to help me with a larger animal to skin and exchange the meat, then deer too(don't worry about details on shotguns and deer just the legal stuff).
Mostly be in state parks.
Maybe have a goat or too to use as pack mules for my stuff.
What legally, could the government fuck me over on?
Hypothetically of course
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>Be HS teacher
>never took the vax
>lied about it to the administrators
>still employed and no one knows any better
Your move globalists
You can camp on BLM land for 14 days at a time legally before you have to move at least 25 miles away. There are similar regulations for national forests but it varies per forest.
>I already do that and it's unfulfilling.
Whoever told you life was fulfilling failed you, anon.
Life is a bunch of shit with (very) sporadic and fleeting nice moments.
Welcome to being an adult.

I'm not even completely shitting on the "Imma gonna go innawoods" fantasy, God knows that even at age 34 I sometimes end up day dreaming about it. It's natural to want something wildly different when life is unfulfilling.
But reality just doesn't work like that, it never did, it never will.
But how would you know if it would be unfulfilling or not if you haven't done it?
Working in a tribe to survive using your bare hands and tools you've made personally.
>Whoever told you life was fulfilling
No one told it to me it would be.
I just find mine unfulfilling.
The idea that you can't have an fulfilling life is bullshit defeatism.
You can make an elevated cache pretty easily in the wild.

/ultralight/ general, reson

After years of caring a heavy pack while enlisted, I've been trying to make an effort to carry as little weight as possible while still remaining comfortable. I greatly enjoy cowboy camping and gladly camp in the rain. Anyone else?

>Gramfags and richfags post with caution

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Just bought this pack, a little heavy at nearly 2lbs but it was only $120. Kinda wish I'd got the Zimmerbuilt Quickstep, nearly the same price but only 9.75oz. Found a TarpTent Double Rainbow Li for $300, wanted a Stratospire Li but I've never used a trekking pole tent before and the deal was too good too pass up. Bought an Enlightened Equipment Enigma quilt yesterday (850df and 10F rating for $270), and I'm pulling the trigger on a Thermarest NeoAir XLite today too. Puts my cost for the big 3/4 at about 800, with base weight at 80oz or 5lbs. Just hope I'll have room for everything with those tent poles in there and stuff.

Hoping to do a trip mid December
I was looking for the same. Check out the Stratospire Li and Zpacks Duplex. And yeah the X-Mid Pro 2 looks like it'll be really cool (I'm on the presale list) but I'll probably wait for the double walled version.

IMO, having used neither but just researched a bunch, I thnk the Stratospire Li is the better tent. Way bigger vestibules, wider (but shorter!) and double layered, all at the cost of just 7oz.
I once saw a setup on Youtube with a bugnet staked to the ground around the sleeping pad and a line of paracord holding it up in the middle.
Permetherin is your friend.
Just don't inhale it. And spray from upwind when treating your gear.
just get something with a bug screen, idiot?

aside from glamping, I don't see how UL would be any less comfy than traditional. I like having less stuff, and the stuff packs down so small you can make room for stuff like a chair and whatever if you want.

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I just got my first canoe: an Old Town Discovery 169.

Any tips for someone just starting out? I plan on mostly fishing and camping with some portaging. I'm a big guy (6'5" 235) and hit the gym 5 days a week, so I don't think the size of the canoe isn't an issue from that perspective.
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I never trained to use those, but even though I don't have one I did more kayaking before.
How do they work?
Big drybag of air don't sink?
So it only matters if you flip?
>Any tips for someone just starting out?
Get some paddles too.

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>Be me, 29 yo
>Haven't camped since I was 5, back when my pops was kicking it
>Decided to learn a few things I will eventually like/want to teach my kids
>It's time to learn how to camp
>Got me a wood stove, tarp, sleeping pad and big ass cooler
Haven't been able to find a tent/sleeping bag combo for under a benjamin that will actually fit in a 40l duffel bag, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Picrel is the tent Amazon suggests but seems bulky as fuck
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>Why did you get the tarp?
Thought it would help the tent
>Whats the point of wood stove?
>Why the cooler, do you intend to car camp?
>Why care about bulk if you car camp?
Because my bike's pillion seat is too small meaning I luckily can fit 2 bags
>What seasons are you gonna go out?
All but winter
>Will you go out in winter?
Nope, too cold
>How many people does it need to fit?
Just my fatass

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> Thought it would help the tent
If you plan to put it above your tent you will be hugely dependent on where you can setup your tent, it will also make amazingly loud noises during high wind nights.

If you plan to put it beneath the tent this will make all the rain roll down the sides of your tent and pool between the tarp and your tent floor at its lowest part - the place where you sleep.

> I'm a 5"6 manlet so..
Doesn't matter, you pick a tent that you can sit in at least somewhat comfortable. You will want to die if you buy any of those coffin profile ones and need to change clothes during rain etc.

> As long as its comfy and fits in a bag
mummy/envelope/quilt, with head cover etc... all of that changes price, comfort, weight, do research ffs

> So you're telling me these tent reviews mean nothing?
Yes, blind leading blind. You are putting same effort and money as teens buying a tent to go to some festival. Of course all the reviews will be "11/10 got laid". People buy this stuff for their kids to play in back yard. Learn about tent fabrics, what happens to silicon impregnated nylon when it gets wet etc there's a shitload of small details that you need to think about now or you will regret not researching later. Camping is 80% about planing and preparation and 20%execution. If you won't change your attitude of "i just wanna have fun, spoon feed me" you will have a bad time. Always.
Not trying to come of elitist but save you the $100 you have. Wait till you have $250 for both of those items and all kinds of options will open up for you.
Are you going alone? or will there be more in the tent? I suggest going with a hammock and rain-fly if you are just doing solo camping. Never skimp on a tent. Get a Eureka at the least but i suggest a Marmot Limelight 2 if you are solo or Limelight 3 if you go with someone. The limelights come with footprints and have kept me dry in some crazy ass storms.
Yeah no, I'm not spending that much even if I wanted to seriously camp. There are dudes who have rocked a 50 bucks tent for 7 years problem free.
>But you know what?
I'll bite, what's a decent brand for an "affordable" 1 hundo tent?
Thought of the hammock option but I hate night critters running up my face
they make them with mosquito netting sewn in. I picked one up on Amazon for $45 I think with straps. I only had to purchase the rain fly which was $35 for a good one. you sleeping bag would fit perfect to warmth.

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