Tolls are gay
I too hate paying for things I consume. Why can they just be free?!!1
>>27027230Tolls are a scam. Taxes pay for the roads already. Then they give private companies the ability to collect additional money and keep 50% of it, split the rest with corrupt politicians
>>27027241thanks for sharing your complete lack of understanding
>>27027241>Tolls are a scam. Taxes pay for the roads already.No they don't.
>>27027246>>27027245Instead of lining up their pockets / spending it frivolously it should go back to the public
>get taxed on income>get taxed when buying a car>get taxed on fuel>get taxed on registration>get taxed for owning property>teehee just pay more taxes
>>27027246>>27027241toll money pays for the the fucking road that has a fucking toll.
>>27027262tolls would definitely be a lot cheaper if it didn't just go into someone's pocketbuddy of mine worked for the state govt train company, and he'd often tell us how shops that they'd contract work out to or just to get a product would charge 5k for a 2k job just because it was govt money. Manager didn't give a shit, told him to just go ahead and buy the thing anyway. Tax dollars at work
>>27027260Listen to this absolute bullshit that happened to me a couple of days ago.>buy motorcycle frame for $500>buy engine, fairings, brakes, blah blah everything for around ~$5k>pay taxes for it >when it's finally road legal I go to get inspection and pass>take that inspection to the tax office so I can get my vehicle registered >"Sir how much did you pay for the vehicle?">$500 >"okay well the fair market value is $8000">I understand that but I rebuilt the bike from zero, and already paid taxes on all the parts I used to put it back together, I'm essentially getting double taxed >"yeah well that's how it works"I left, and I refuse to register the bike now.FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT
>>27027221>you have cameras and have to pay a fee to enter the roadLmao, do flyover fags really?We don't have toll roads in CA other than bridges (duh)
>>27027221>mfw no toll roads in my cunt>mfw cunt has the best road network in the world
>>27027241The Coronado bridge was built with a bond measure with a tollbooth installed to repay the bond.When the bond had been repaid the bridge was suppose to be free.Once they paid it off they decided to co tinue charging people because it was a good money maker....
>>27027270I've never had anyone tell me when registering a vehicle that the sale price I wrote wasn't correct. They don't know how much you paid for something from a private seller, that's why you list the purchase price. If I say "I bought it for $500 it was a hunk of shit" then they can't prove that it wasn't. Sounds like you're either lying or that one person you delt with was a massive cunt.
>>27027288he could live in a shithole like new york where anything below 'fair market value' requires extra signatures from both parties on an extra, DMV-specific form, and if you don't get that filled out right- and sometimes if they do- they'll say fuck it and charge you sales tax on market value instead by using the vehicle year/make/model, EVEN if it's a salvage/rebuild title that is less than fair market by definition
>>27027288>>27027305Yeah some bitch sprung this on me in wa state. I bought an $800 shitbox that wasnt even worth the $800 and she wanted to charge me $400 to register it cause she found some bluebook value of $3200. They really try to keep you poor
>>27027288>HOW MUCH ARE TAX, TITLE AND LICENSE FEES FOR A USED CAR IN TEXAS?>Title and license fees on a used car in Texas will typically cost $90 to $95. Sales tax is the same 6.25% as above.> If the car is purchased at a private sale, the vehicle may be taxed on the purchase price or Standard Presumptive Value (SPV) of the car (whichever is higher). The SPV is calculated based on similar sales in the region.
FL-91 is hell
>>27027230 you eat this for breakfast don't you?
>>27027245toll roads in sydney were built with tax money then given to the one of the parties donors for free. they now charge 5-7AUD for a single trip, and a single freeway might be split into 3 parts to charge each time. lots of people (including me when i worked in sydney) were paying $200+ a week to get to work. you could argue to take back roads, but they intentionally keep them terribly maintained and 2 lanes wide to force people onto the toll roads if they dont want to destroy their car/add another hour to their commute. the main non toll road into sydney (parramatta road) is legit like a road in a warzone
>>27027320>>27027288I saved 200 dollars by just leaving and coming back the next day with a different woman behind the counter at the courthouse and playing dumb trying to update tags that were years out of date, these fuckers suck ass.
>>27027397Just get in your old brumby and bash some roos while eating a kabab on a back road, mate.
>>27027260Based /pol/ poster.I just love making $5,000 a check and having $2,000 taken out because of jews.
>>27027443I lived in new work and had 40% of my paycheck syphoned
>>27027246This doesn't say anything about what percentage taxes compose of road spending, just the aggregate amongst tolls, fees, and taxes.
>>27027463What? You think someone would just go on the internet and lie?
>>27027413I just didnt register that car. It was too much of a pos for me. Sold it to mexicans for $500 cause they are too smart/poor to waste $800 on such a pos.
>>27027413But if you update tags and they notice you're not the owner that's registered how did they do the paperwork?
>>27027566it was registered to me it's just that it was not tagged in years and the first bitch wanted to charge me for some stupid gay fees after I explained that it'd been off the road for a long time, the next one I just didnt say anything and she didnt charge the fees.
>>27027241you can choose to take free highways and interstates. i will keep cruising on my nice pavement that i help pay for.
>>27027221here we have these ENC devices, you put some money on it and you can go through the toll automatically, it's even cheaper that way. i found out that if i take the card normally, and then pull out the device when im coming off, the device won't work. at that point i play dumb and say wtf, they always ask me where i entered the highway, and i always tell them the closest entrance. so for a stretch that i actually make i pay only a few cents, normal price is like 10€
>>27027221Toll bridges were very effective in ancient Rome and medieval Europe, some of those bridges still survive today. But yes, in the modern world where we're raped for tax dollars every step of the way, toll bridges are gay.
>>27027697In Florida it is also an automatic system which either reads the plate or scans a transponder which you stick to the windshield. Each toll usually ranges from around $0.60 to $3.00 however there are so many of these tolls within a short distance (some less than 2 miles apart) it slowly starts to add up. It only gets this bad around the cities though. And if the transponder fails to read, automatic $25 toll violation for EACH toll you pass which it failed to read
>>27027230Nigger I already paid for tolls with my taxes. It shouldn't be my fault the government chose to send that money to israel instead of building roads with it.
>>27027270I bet you it was a nigger at the dmv. Those motherfuckers always try to get you on anything they can. This one she-boon failed me on my vision test because I took like 5 secs too long to read the last column, came back the next day and the old white lady just waved me through. Another time I got the same nigger and she tried to pull that "fair market value" horseshit on me so I left and came back the next day, the white lady didn't even care that I wrote gift on the title.
>>27027256why take then give back? That's very inefficient. Since we are talking hypotheticals here why not just tax less to begin with?
>>27027758how is there a $25 for it failing to read the transponder when tolling by plate with no transponder at all is valid?
>>27027246I used to think toll roads were privately owned and that's why people had to pay for them.
>>27027804Some recent BS I had with Sunpass. Transponder failed to read and instead of charging by plate, I got a toll violation adding up to $3,000. Plate had no reflectors like OP. My only guess as to how they knew it was me was with the vin at the front. Sunpass account had funds at the time every toll violation was logged as well.
>>27027246Now factor in the GDP growth and tax revenue generated that comes from people using the roads for business
>>27027282Japan has the most extensive toll road network in the world, though...
>>27027838If only they were. Japan's system is sort of private in that they are owned by privatised for-profit corporations that the Japanese government owns a majority share in, with the rest of the shares available for public sale on the stock market.
>>27027780NTA, but damn I'd be fucking LIVID if some bitch failed me at the DMV for something like an eye test.
>>27028153You think blind people should drive? They only require 20/40 vision in 1 eye.
>>27028179>DMV eye tests as an indication of inability to seeI passed my eye test and the "test" was a box you put your eyes up to that turned on a light on each line for the test, I believe to be akin to distance. I noticed that the "test" was faulty on the last bits despite my vision being just fine at the time. Keep in mind, that your vision has to be seriously fucked that it prevents you from driving at all, because even with the terrible astigmatism I have now I have no issues driving during the day nor night whatsoever
>>27027245he is 100% right
>>27028210>because even with the terrible astigmatism I have now I have no issues driving during the day nor night whatsoeverSeems like that would be a problem in any kind of confusing high traffic area. There are alot of accidents where someone didnt see something, or maybe it took too long to process what the thing was.
>>27028227>Seems like that would be a problem in any kind of confusing high traffic areaWhat? It's astigmatism, not glaucoma or macular degeneration
>>27027221>drive solo>set transponder to 3+>hop on toll lane>no chargesi win
>already proved that HOV lanes do absolutely nothing>put them in anyway over a decade ago>only now is the NDOT performing a study to just outright remove them within the next two years
>>27028179Nigger did you even read what the anon said? He took his time to read the last column and the lady took that as him not being qualified. I'm not talking about the 80 year old with 3 inch glasses not being able to read the first two lines.
>>27027277so you do have toll roads
>>27027277>We don't have toll roads in CAyes you do dumbass
>>27028328Idk about vision problems. I put my face in the dmv thing and read all of the stuff on a few occasions. IDK if his vision is bad or if the vision tester was malfunctioning or if the DMV woman was just power tripping. But its a low standard for vision, so assuming the test is administered properly, anyone who fails should not drive.
>>27028244*blocks ur path*
>>27028244>still have to pay bridge tolls
>>27028533too many cars for them to check, as long as you got some tint and don't drive a coupe you're fine
>>27028618you only have to get unlucky once
>>27027246>tolls, user fees, and user taxes
>>27028623i'll take the ticket, i've dodged well over 1k in tolls
>>27027241I think this only applies to Europe where the roads are actually build by the government and "managed" by private companies that happen to be friends with the government.
>>27028252>city decides to nigger up main interstate through town to install hov lanes>project takes about 2.5 years>iirc 3 billion with a b dollars>FOR LESS THAN TEN (10) FUCKING MILES>first year it's hov 24/7>almost everyone just used it anyway, especially during rush hour>after that they change it to 6-8 and 4-6 only (ie open lane at all other times)yep that was worth it
>>27027221I like em, $10 is all it takes to keep poorfags of the 150 mile stretch I typically drive.
>>27029129>complaining about an extra lane
There are no toll roads in my stateIf I have to travel, I just drive through the EZ pass lanes and don't pay. If they send me a bill in the mail I throw it away. They can't prove I was the one driving the car so they can't sue me for it either
New white map just dropped.Tolls are not only gay, but brown. I pay taxes. Taxes pays roads.