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Who was in the wrong here?
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Buick was in the wrong, but the rider had the reaction time of a sloth with cataracts. If you can't avoid that, you shouldn't ride a motorcycle.
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>>27023194
You. Stop making these threads.
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>>27023194
The biker for buying a motorcycle
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>>27023194
looks like the biker is speeding, so i would say the biker
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>>27023194

Cars normally merge into the next lane ever so casually. That guys jerked his steering wheel aggressively with that kind of abrupt turn.
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>>27023251
That guy*
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>>27023194
Bike.
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>>27023236
He was following the car in front of him.
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>>27023194
always the bikes fault. I cant wait for them to get banned, its the best part of these new emissions and safety laws being passed, I cannot fucking wait
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>>27023194
>no signal light to indicate he’s changing lanes
>doesn’t check his side mirror or he would have seen the biker coming
>doesn’t give proper distance to the car ahead of the biker to change lanes.
Yep, it’s a nigger or, worse, a woman.
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>>27023194
>bright orange crotch rocket
>matching leathers
>faggot "reckless" tag on his keys
>can't ride for shit
>had an absurd amount of time to analyze the scene and stay out of the car's blindspot
>even once the merge began, he had 3 different easy ways to avoid the wreck
Car driver is retarded, but fuck that faggot on the bike. I bet he does highway pulls and thinks he's king shit with his squared off back tire. I hope he got hurt here. These cumguzzlers are part of why everyone hates bikes.
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>>27023623
>banned
highway jannies can try
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>>27023194
Car clearly in the wrong. Swerved into the other lane quickly and unpredictably with no signal. There was basically no hint that that was coming prior the move being done. If you are the one changing lanes it is your own responsibility to do so safely. That said there's no excuse for haddalayerdown in that situation on a road with a bike lane. ATGATTards proving once again why they need ATGATT.
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>>27023656
>
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>>27023194
god i wish that would happen to me on my junker. safest insurance payout possible
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>>27023194
>ACK
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>>27023194
Both are retarded
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>>27023194
>full leathers
>Repsol livery
>couldn't react in time to take the 3 options to avoiding that accident
the biker should shoot himself out of embarrasment
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>>27023194
it looks like the white car wasn't paying attention and swerved to the right lane to avoid rear ending the car in front. ironically, this was the right move as bikes cost less than cars
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unironically how are you supposed to "pay attention" to riders who warp into the lane next to you and then warp out again in less than one second as they weave their way through normal afternoon traffic?
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>>27025334
safe traveling distance
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I dont know, it isnt loading
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>>27023623
>its the best part of these new emissions and safety laws being passed
>bike euro 5 equals car euro 6
>many pass it without VVT/VVTL, direct injection or any other fuckery
get dunked on tard, in many cases bikes produce more power than ever
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>>27023194
This is pretty much the same scenario that ended up with me crushing my heel and ankle in the '80s. Some puffy haired blonde woman swerved into the fast lane, no signal, contacted my fairing and pushed me into a breakdown lane full of sand. Full leathers saved my skin.

The stupid asshole didn't even know she had hit me but another driver flagged her down and she had the brilliant idea to start spouting off at them that that she was going to sue me for the dents on her brand new Thunderbird. She got three tickets from a New Jersey state trooper who told me he was getting ready to buy a GPz750 Turbo.

My fucking ankle still hurts sometimes and I always wondered if the trooper bought his crotch rocket.
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>>27025334
>normal
>traffic
no such thing

I am SPEED. You are IN THE WAY
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>>27023194
Is that a two lane road or a one lane road?
I don't see any dividing lines.
If it's a two lane road then obviously the suv is in the wrong.
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>>27023202
Nah bro he rev bombed
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why is this board plagued with inane questions that have obvious answers?
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>>27023202
That looks like an hour on film, but trust me bro that shit happens in nanoseconds. Rider should have predicted retardation from the cager and slowed down just a little.
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>>27023194
90% the car, but the motorcycle was driving far too aggressively. On a motorcycle I constantly expect everyone does not see me and ride far back and slow. Only had one close call and it was same thing someone changing lanes. I already expected the guy to change lanes etc. so I anticipated it and just fell back, slower. But this retard over compensated once he realized he cut me off and literally spun his pos out in like a 180 and onto the shoulder. It was funny because as bad as it somewhat seemed I totally was aware of the retard and already defused the situation. But car drivers are so retarded this guy literally had a panic attack and crashed his shit.
I literately kept riding home with that pepe grinning smurk guy face another 10 miles. But i seen the retard in my mirror and could hear the tires squealing.
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>>27026818
What you mean aggressively? He was driving in a straight line not much faster than the cars ahead of him, he probably would reduce his speed because you can clearly see moments before the collision he was about to press the brake handle.
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Sorry biker but the road is for -everyone-
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>>27026902
NTA but I think what he means by "aggressive" is basically the repsol leather daddy /fa/ggot was playing it like he was in a car in a situation with a high probability of biker getting hit.

Shoulda been treating everyone else on the road as retarded, deaf, and blind, any old biker will tell you that.

Anyone with good BikeSense (not the redditor) should see

>2 lanes of traffic
>intersection coming up
>traffic to the left coming to a standstill while the right continues to move slowly
>travelling into a car's blindspot

And realize there's a high probability for unannounced swerves and cager bullshit. In city traffic you should be making as much distance between you and every other vehicle as possible to avoid this rather than sitting 2 car lengths behind a car that can outbrake your consoomer larp rocket.
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>>27027176
>Shoulda been treating everyone else on the road as retarded, deaf, and blind, any old biker will tell you that.
Nah he should have blasted down the bike lane and then swerved out in front of the lead car once he got ahead of the pack at the light.
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>>27027085
You got the one of the black trucker falling asleep and his nude bbw flops out of the sleeper and around the cab as the truck overturns off the side of the road?
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>>27027193
https://old.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/rpxlt5/its_important_to_get_your_full_8hrs_of_sleep/
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>>27025334
Like just pay attention. Ive driven workvans with exhaust leaks and you kinda check the mirrors and look around the whole time and oh theres a motorcycle weaving around behind me guess ill stay in my lane till he passes.
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>>27023194
Buicks fault. 100%. But the biker shouldve been riding defensively in anticipation of that sort of thing happening. Got to have situational awareness and be expecting drivers to do retarded shit like that for one's own safety.
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>>27023194
I'm not watching your shit.
Whoever chooses to ride a vehicle with two wheels is always in the wrong.
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>>27027298
>i'll just be a good boy and stay here because there's a real man nearby using and abusing the road
okay
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>>27023194
That guy is a fucking pussy
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>>27027604
Im paid by the hour to deliver stuff. My company doesnt want me killing motorcyclists. The cops would have questions about it. Theres simply no need to kill the motorcyclist. Someone flipped their door open while he was filtering anyway
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>>27027098
imagine losing to a guy driving a pt cruiser
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>>27023194
The dumb biker fag for being a man child
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It looks like it goes from 2 to one lane. Bikers fault for not driving defensively and allowing the Buick to merge. Buick also a shitty driver.
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There was half a second between when the vehicle started to swerve over and the contact with the bike. It was very unlikely for anyone to avoid that. Sure it's easy to say your lightning fast reflexes could dodge it when you're watching the video knowing it's going to happen, but impossible for anyone to maintain that intense level of focus for long rides. >>27023202
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>>27023650
He wasn't in the suv's blindspot you retard. The only excuse the suv has is the sun was setting behind them and may have fucked with his mirrors a bit.
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>>27029852
Ive worked 24 hours straight and avoided swerving retards while almost asleep while in a 24ft box van.

Do motorcyclecles impair your reflexes and attention span more than a 20,000 pound box?
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>>27029888
Yes retardanon, please tell us more about how you could easily avoid a car merging directly into you from the side unannounced in a quarter of a second. I think I speak for the whole board when I say we're so impressed by your superhuman ability to convince your box truck to brake beyond its own physical limitations.
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>>27029867
>shooting up behind a car that's tailgating the car in front of them
>there's now an open lane to the right
>not clearly understanding that fucker is going to jump into the right lane to get around the guy in front of him
>not clearly understanding that the van is not looking for you
The van driver is retarded, but pretty much every driver is retarded nowadays. The faggot on the bike should have seen that action coming a mile away. I've riden nearly daily for the last 5 years and it doesn't take long to pick up on traffic patterns and the way shitty drivers move. Van was at fault, but the crotch rocket had every possible chance to avoid.
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>>27029999
Shut the fuck up.
You don't know how long the biker was near that SUV. You don't know how much of his driving the biker. All you have is the 5 seconds leading up the accident.

Since you've seen the entire thing play out it's easy for you to look back with the aid of hindsight and a seek bar and say "yep, the signs were there all along!" but trying to process all of that information and derive the same judgements in real time is a different matter. Unironically kill yourself.
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>>27023202
>rider had the reaction time of a sloth
>>27025112
>couldn't react in time
>>27026902
>about to press the brake handle.

What I don't get is he DID brake. He braked hard, you can see the bike dive forward...
Then he let off the brake and hit the car.

Why didn't he keep braking? He obviously reacted in time, but then just ... stopped trying to get out of the way?
And why he didn't just veer to the right, who the hell knows?

Bike rider is a total moron who probably gets into car accidents too.
But "reaction time" wasn't at fault, because he clearly reacted in time by braking hard immediately. Then his decision-making took over and he decided to stop braking for some reason. Fucking idiot.
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>>27030059
You're a retarded squid nigger. I've avoided the exact same accident literally hundreds of times by just paying attention to other cars and knowing when not to pass them in the only open lane when they're tailgating. Even if the retard couldn't have seen the car coming, he had 2+ bike widths to the right to swerve into once the merge began.
Go smear yourself under a truck because you "never could have seen it coming" you worthless, inattentive faggot.
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>>27029967
>slow Car starts merging in front of my boxvan
>Blast horn, flip on hazard lights and hit the brakes while moving slightly into the breakdown lane
> He swerves around like a retard and probably shit his pants before going back to his original position
> I speed up and pass by
>Problem solved.

When im in the car it happens so often that it doesn't matter, I just deal with it without thinking
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>>27030115
this
>see an SUV / nigger car in front of me
>know instantly they’re going to do something stupid
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>>27027298
Retard.
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>>27023194
>one lane going slower or is backed up than the much faster lane that you're on
you should always expect someone to jump out into your lane, that being said its still the dumbass cars fault
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>>27023623
>ban bikes!
>yay new emission and safety laws!
This is either top tier troll, or average /o/tard
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>>27023194
gotta love st louis drivers kek
>>27023202
>t. no bike
>>27025334
faggot. you sound like you drive like a woman
>>27026719
its a 2 lane going into a 1 (4 total to 2 total) into a roundabout

biker was too fast and panicked but obviously the car was the one who moved and thus its their responsibility to do it safely so its the cars fault. not complicated you fags.
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>>27023194
Bikes fault for speeding while incompetent. Car did nothing wrong.
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>>27030059
>99% of drivers are sub 80iq NPCs who pay more attention to their phones than where they're steering their 2 ton cuckboxes
>good portion of those drivers hate bikers because they got startled/envious when one filtered/split past them
Oh geez there's definitely no way he could have predicted a cager in a class of vehicle almost exclusively chosen by braindead morons doing something like that
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>>27027085
literally me
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>>27023194
Buick changed lanes without signalling and did so when the bike was already right next to them.
>had the reaction time of a sloth with cataracts
The buick merged straight into him, he didn't have time to react.
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>>27023623
They are almost entirely unaffected but keep coping.
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>>27027077
That Audi driver pissed me off... and so did the truck with the ladders, but not as much, because I'm assuming he just started raging due to the Audi.
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>not finishing him off
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>>27023194
Car, but
>blinding Sun at back
>stopped lane of cars with opening
as a motorcycle rider you need to assume every car is going to do the worst thing imaginable and act accordingly. But sometimes there's nothing you can do are your number's up.

Hindsight is 20/20 so he probably should have been is lane position 3 and swerved when they cut over. Good on him for being is full gear though.
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>>27027077
Holy shit, cagers are psychotic lmao
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>>27027077
City planer should get taken out back.
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>>27023194
the fatass SUV was in the wrong. someone stopped in front of them and the bike was just going the speed in their lane. SUV did not check for traffic on their right. hope rider is ok.
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>>27023622
>speeding is okay if the guy in front does it
lmao
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>approaching a merge
>muscle car speeding in like a retard
>biker sees this unfold
>doesn't slow down to merge
>follows the retarded muscle car
>making him a DOUBLE retard
NOOO YOU DIDN'T CHECK YOUR MIRROR FOR LONG ENOUGH TO DETERMINE I AM BIKING AT EXCESSIVE SPEED YOU SHOULD KNOW I AM SPEEDING SO YOU CAN'T MERGE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM GOING TO SPEED IN FRONT OF YOU AND SKIP THE QU-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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>>27030104
His abs dampened his brakes. Anyway you dont slam on your brakes on a motorcycle hes lucky his abs stopped him from going over the bars.

He should have swerved onto the shoulder then slowed down.
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>>27027077
holy based
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>>27027886
>The dumb biker fag for being a man ch-AAAAAAACK ACK ACK ACK AAAAAAAAAACK
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>>27041177
That was unexpected
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>>27041177
lol cager rekt
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>>27034434
>because they got startled/envious
Nobody is envious, good luck riding an open air 2 wheeled vehicle surrounded by people you admit are braindead. That seems more retarded than driving an actual car
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>>27027191
You're the main character!
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>>27023236
If you look at the trees and measure the distance, the motorcyclist was doing anywhere between ~30 mph. Motorcyclist was following traffic flow. Even if 25 mph speed limit, 5mph is hardly unacceptable.

The lanes were merging. There are two issues here. The motorcyclist was trying to get ahead of the line AFTER the merger started. That's the motorcyclists error.

>>27023194
However, the Buick clearly overacted with road rage. This was a clear and deliberate attack against the motorcyclist and should be treated as aggravated assault with a motor vehicle.

If the legal system was really shit in this area, the motorcyclist would have been cited for failing to yield, and the Buick would have been arrested on assault charges. This video shows enough evidence that the reaction of the Buick was not defensive but offensive, and would have resulted in the motorcyclist pursuing legal action for compensation on property and medical damages (Should they have chosen to).

>T. Officer for 15 years
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>>27023202
>>27026794
He had a ton of space on the shoulder and could have easily avoided it by just swerving to the right while braking, which should be your instinctive response to seeing something approaching your from the left anyway.
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>>27023194
the biker, because his exhaust wasn't loud enough to remind people he existed.
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>>27041335
You don't swerve and brake at the same time that's how you lose the front end, swerve THEN brake.
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>>27041324
>>T. Officer for 15 years
Disgusting
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>>27041177
>Fag driver
Vs
>based biker
Hahaha
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>>27041324
>deliberate attack
What? The Buick was clearly not paying attention to the stopped traffic ahead, looked up and realized they couldn't stop in time, then tried to swerve to evade rear ending the next vehicle.
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>>27044799
>realized they couldn't stop in time, then tried to swerve to evade rear ending the next vehicle.
are you retarded? they had plenty of time to stop
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Who was in the john here?
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>>27041177
The car 'tard did it to himself, hitting the bike on purpose.. Unfortunately, the driver survived. He should have been tried for attempted murder.



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