When it comes to cars?Yeah crossovers are everywhereYeah they sell like hotcakesThey are superior to clown car hatchbacks and truck based SUVsOh, sorry mister racecar driver lightning McQueen, you don't /need/ a sedan nor coupe, you can get by with a Vespa or Honda Rebel
>>27021626Crossovers do nothing better than the cars they are based on nor SUVs they pretend to be.It combines the worst of elements of both into a horrid fad-based shitbox.>why did you respond to a trollI’m bored
not interested in egg car
Bring her back
>>27021697I hate crossovers too but a crossover is still infinitely more practical than a sedan. Sedans are truly useless.
>>27021626AWD Matrix was way bettee than disastrous Corolla Cross
>>27022215>but a crossover is still infinitely more practical than a sedanHow so? A lot of crossovers have cramped rear legroom. Sedans never seem to have this issue.
>>27025984Many executive compact RWD sedans has this problem. Recent example? CT4/CT5. But to be fair those cars were designed for China first.
>>27021697>It combines the worst of elements of bothSo just what are the worst elements of sedans and what are the worst elements of SUV's?
>>27022210is this thing just accord with big trunk?
>>27021697>Crossovers do nothing better than the cars they are based on nor SUVs they pretend to be.How do? Ground clearance is never a bad thing. Have you ever driven anywhere? Even the nicest cities have rough unmaintained roads. Also what if someone wants to get to a camping spot that is a little out there? Need ground clearance. Although nothing is as good as 1st gen CRV and Rav4>It combines the worst of elements of both into a horrid fad-based shitboxI'll wait for your explanation of this.
>>27027266It's looks comfy af
>>27027324>>27027266>>27022210My dad has one, they're incredibly based
>>27022210They did as the integra
>>27027356>>27027367Yeah no. Still need ground clearance and awd or 4x4 for what I do
>>27021626First off, you’re comparing a Hatchback with an older Camry engine to an SUV from A DECADE later with a more modern and fuel efficient engine that barely does much better in terms of mpg.So your comparison is moot.Assuming that the Matrix stayed in production as it was, we could say that probably would have ended up with the same engine that the current Corolla Hatch has now. It’s literally the Matrix anyway, for better or worse, but that’s whole other conversation. The 2023 Corolla Hatch has a mpg rating of 32 city/41 highway. So again, your comparison is moot. And you’re honestly kinda stupid too. So let’s ask the real question. Assuming that the Toyota Matrix stayed in production, and stuck to its utility-based roots, and still had a lot of cargo space. How exactly would a Corolla Cross have been better? Just slightly more room in the seats for your fatass kids? It would likely be able to tow better but that’s just one thing going for it. How exactly would it be better?
>>27027452I'll stick with my 4runner. Thanks
>>27027452Huh… doesn’t look bad at all.
>>27025984Try fitting a 70 inch TV in a sedan. Try fitting a dog in a sedan. Trunks are fucking dumb compared to a hatch. They're just a waste of metal.
>>27027367Stop telling people about these, too many have been run into the ground after being passed down from grandma to Bradden, the subwoofer and slammed car enthusiast.
>>27021626I don't get the point of this thread
>>27028072Dude’s either a troll or a retard. He can’t even compare the 2 vehicles because of everything I said earlier: >>27027392
>>27021626Carolla Cross weighs 3,285 pounds.Matrix weighs 2,844.Cross is 65 inches tall, Matrix is 61 inches.Matrix has 49.4 square feet of cargo capacity with the seats down.the Cross has 66 but the seats don't fold completely flat.By virtue of being nearly 450 pounds lighter and lower to the ground the Matrix is going to have better handling. Which a lot of us value over ground clearance.I think the Cross is a decent comparison; but an actual Carolla wagon could likely deliver everything it has with better fuel efficiency and handling.
>>27028151It’s a shit comparison, at the very least in terms of mpg. He’s comparing the fuel economy of a 2013 Matrix to a 2023 Crossover that barely does any better, lol
>>27027324Yeah you know what? This looks comfy.
>>27027781how about you try fitting these nuts in your mouth
>>27027781Hatchbacks are GAY as FUCK. How often are you buying TVs? I've moved two TVs in the last 10 years. >Try fitting a dog in a sedan. What? Are you retarded?>>27028035>Facts.Nigger.
>>27028454How many holes?
>>27027324what do they eat?
>>27027781Try fitting all that shit in a crossover. My old Vibe could fit a whole god damned refrigerator, there's no way my mom's Rav-4 could do that, and it's one of the better crossovers.
>>27027050>>27027281Worst traits of a car carried over to crossovers:Shit visibility, you still can’t see around and real SUVs nor trucks, your line of sight is barely 3 inches higher than the cars they are based on.Contrary to your post the ground clearance on modern crossovers is the same as it is in the cars they are based, a little plastic cladding for ground effects doesn’t make 5inches any further from the ground.Ride quality is dogshit on unibody cars and that carries over to the crossoversTiny horrid 4/6 cylinder engines that are put in cars are typically carried right over to crossovers.Towing capacity rarely exceeds that of the cars they are based onNo off-road capability what-so-ever, seriously a Crown Vic would do better off-road than 97% of crossoversWorst traits carried over from SUVs:Body roll, which to be fair crossover suspensions are super tight which just makes them ride like shit to get rid of body rollFuel economy of crossovers rarely exceeds low 20s despite having horrendously small engines More difficult to work on given the car package is suddenly surrounded by more metal.More expensive... because reasons?Frankly there’s very little similarities crossovers share with SUVs
>Pic related makes Sedancels lose their minds.
>>27028836> NiggerIs that the best argument you got? Disappointing…
>>27028855Hahaha, I read this and the reply above and I read your message as “My old vibe could eat a whole god damned refrigerator”
>>27027324>>27027356sleeping inside your car is extremely overrated. just pitch a tent. there's so much compromise.pic related is also silly but cool. a 4wd + rooftop tent is an unbeatable combo in australia. beach camping is great fun and you don't get sand on anything, and you stay nice and cool
>>27029435This looks incredibly based and extremely retarded at the same time
>>27029435I can’t think of a single drawback to just sleeping in your vehicle, completely protected from the elements, not manhandling a tent everywhere, not on uneven grounding, no risk of wildlife bothering you, can turn on A/C or Heat and fall back asleep.I’ve done the whole Boy Scout thing 30 years ago and I’ll take the cheap and comfy route.
>>27021648what goes through the mind of an individual who buys an npc crossover then slaps brand-name aftermarket rims on it?
>>27029435996 is just so ugly