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When making a right turn at a red light. Do you wait for both lanes of traffic to be clear or do you turn even when there are approaching vehicles in the left lane? I often wait because I don't want to clip the approaching vehicle and I often see other drivers wait in this situation as well.
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>>26668470
I don't usually wait, but I do stop fully then gently gesture that I will be making the turn. I nudge out, see if they look like they are going to move into the right lane in the middle of the intersection like an asshole, then go. This takes all of 2 seconds to process.

Eventually you learn there are idiots out there and you sort of spot them naturally.

t. driving nearly 20 years, never had an accident, ticket etc.
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>>26668470
Definitely safer to wait for all lanes to be clear. I do this every time I enter a multilane road.
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>>26668470

I usually wait since sone dumbass might change lanes without looking. I'll pull out when someone is in the other lane if I feel like they have enough time to see me and be aware I'm pulling out.
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I hate right on red
Worst meme ever invented
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>>26668470
Depends on how busy the traffic is, how tingly my spider senses are, and if I see brown skin on the driver in the left lane.
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>>26668470
I wait since if anything were to happen the onus is on you making sure the way is clear
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>>26668560
>I hate right on red
The only people who say that are cucks who complain anything about road infrastructure and I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation as to why it's bad
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>>26668781
Paneers who pull out too slowly when doing a right on red, cutting off the person coming from the left in that lane
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>>26668781
because it relies on the judgement and decision making skills of the same people who buy Nissan Rogues because of all the safety and driver assistance, or massive SUVs so they survive when they inevitably get hit or hit someone like they know they're going to
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>>26668470
i live in a place with actual traffic rules so a red light is a red light there is no bullshit like
>im just turning right?
enjoy your 700€ ticket and paying for my car when i slam you at full speed from the left if you do.
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>>26668480
>driving nearly 20 years, never had an accident, ticket etc.
That’s impressive anon, any life saving tips or pointers you can share? I’ve been driving for about 5 years now
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>>26669610
>>26669581
But a RTOR is no different from pulling out on a main road from a 2 way stop.
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>>26669610
>>€
shut the fuck up
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>>26668470
I turn because if somebody hits me I'm legally in the right, so best case scenario I die, and worst case scenario I get a free holiday in the hospital and get to cash out my shitbike at blue book value instead of what someone would actually pay for it.
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>>26669623
NTA but I would recommend trying not to get hit by other cars while also trying not to hit other cars yourself

>t. one collision 12 years ago when I was a retarded teenager
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I wait, but if there's a lot of traffic in the left lane I'll go in a smaller gap than I normally would (as long as there's still nobody coming in the right lane)
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>>26669623
Easy ride the bus like him and you can have a accident/ticket free life as well
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>>26669610
what a fucking moron.
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Isn't it illegal to change lanes while in a intersection?
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>>26668470
Depends on the width of the lanes and the angle of the turn. If the nose of my car is going to get pretty close to the far lane I will wait for both to clear.
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>>26668566
>and if I see brown skin on the driver in the left lane
Also a factor. Particularly female brown skin.
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>>26668470
I'll turn if I feel like I'll still be head of the car by the time I finish my turn. That way if I see them trying to switch lanes, I can try to gun it to avoid them hitting me.
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>>26668470
wait for both lanes to be clear because you never know if cross traffic will decide to change lanes.
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>>26670186
no
don't know where this myth came from, but no
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>>26670186
depends on the state but in general no.

it is, however, incredibly dangerous.
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>>26668470
>get raised knowing red means stop, green means go
>actually get a license
>oh but actually you can turn right on red unless it says you cant except when it doesn't except when it does
>also you can yield to turn left sometimes but only if it's flashing and the summer solstice alligns properly
>stop anywhere but the middle lane
>HONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONKHONK
Fuck whoever invented this bullshit catering to boomers with ADHD that are constantly in a hurry to get fucking anywhere. I'm sick of things that rely on me trusting other people because half of you psycho fucks have a death wish and will literally explode if you're two minutes late.
>>26669610
The only things eurofucks have over us is road safety, I'm jelly.
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>>26671170
Some places have left turn on red too bro
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>>26668470
Wait for both lanes to be clear because the one time you don't some geriatric bitch who can't see over the dash or some 16 year old on her phone will merge right into you.
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>>26668470
2 lanes I wait for both
more than 2 lanes if the furthest right 2 are clear I go
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>>26671400
right is great
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>>26671170
you sound mentally fucking retarded.
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>>26671405
Yea, they're used in those restaurants with the grill in the middle of the table, so it must be good.
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>>26668470
It depends, in your pic related, I wait since you never know if someone is going to change lanes in the intersection. If it's a busy road though, sometimes you have to go.
I would rather we start putting in roundabouts so this shit can be a bit smoother.
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>>26670186
So is running a red yet that happens all the time.
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>>26671170
Tell me which state gives licenses to mentally disabled people like you so I can never ever go there.
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>>26668470
Unfortunately, I live in California around niggers and spics, so I am forced to wait for both lanes to clear, lest I open myself to being t-boned by some low income shitskin when they decide to change lanes mid intersection.
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>>26668470
I wait for both lanes to be clear, 90% of drivers where I am don't know how to use turn signals anymore so I just don't take the chance anymore.



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