Chinese money is a problem.
>>26664617Have you seen the recent news. Bug people are losing their shirts.
>>26664633how could it be worse? it's like 5% larger than last gen and looks like a shrunk down XM, light up oversized grille and all. this car is a postmodern nightmare.
>>26664617Looks great. I would be all over it if I could afford to buy it and maintain it.
>>26664641If you could afford to buy it new then you wouldn't need to maintain it yourself, dealership does it for you under the warranty period.
>>26664638>how could it be worse?i take it you havent seen the new 7 series yet
>>26664617one of the ugliest rear ends of all timesheeeeeeeshwhat a cucked back.
it looks a lot more normal in black/poorfag spec
>>26664680they're equally bad imo. in some ways the 7 is even better, at least it doesn't look like an amorphous gay little hornet blob.
Mercedes is better in this case
>>26664680i saw one of these in real life and the pictures don't do it justice for how ugly it is in real lifeit looks like a chinese rolls royce and the proportions are weird, looks like a soap bar
>>26664751i did too in a bmw showroom and i snapped a pic to show my gf how ugly it is and a salesman came up to me and said "isn't she a beaut" and i just chuckled as i walked away (and then everyone clapped) lmao
>>26664680Timeless design. Any disagreement is straight up poorfag cope.
>>26664800You're gay. If you disagree, you're gay.
>>26664802Cope some more, poorfag.
>>26664828You don't need to able to afford Picasso to think his art is ugly as fuck.
>>26664800timeless at being a shitty design
>>26664859Just following your instructions, retar- I mean sir.
>>26664833way to prove his point
>>26664875>wealth buys tasteDo you fags unironically believe this?
>>26664617It's objectively not as ugly as you all like to pretend it is. Internet dogma and a dislike for the new seems to be the source of your criticism. Still nothing to write home about>>26664728that car looks worse somehow
>>26664878maybe if you call me a retard or a faggot again I might change my mind.
>>26664879It's like you didn't read this thread at all and are basing your opinions on what you expect to find.
>>26664885Oh does it bother you?Maybe if you just deflect by calling me poor again it'll change my mind too.
>>26664617what's with the commie grey everywhere?
it looks like a camry
>>26664897women exist for being impregnated and nothing more.
>>26664897>he doesn't like the despotic design languageUhm I'm sorry sweatie but are you being a poorfag right now? Oof, yikes
>>26664886>It's like you didn't read this threadI did. Everyone is just saying its ugly and only this guy >>26664638 articulated his actual thoughts. I don't think the rear is ugly, and using the phrase "postmodern nightmare" is what I mean when I was referring to there being a disdain for "the new" in this thread. I mean just look at this comment >>26664720, what am I supposed to interpret from "gay little hornet blob"?
>>26664897grey cars blend in with the road more so are more prone to accidents and that helps the economy
>>26664889>deflect by calling me poor againthat wasn't me that was a different anon. Although he has a point. Just because a car is too expensive it doesn't mean it should get point off in the looks department.
>>26664904What about all those sandwiches your mom brings down to the basement? I bet you would be pretty cross is she stopped bringing them.
>>26664909>what am I supposed to interpret from "gay little hornet blob"?i can draw you a picture if it will help.also postmodern != new. postmodernism is an artistic and philosophical zeitgeist. things can be new without adhering to postmodernist design principals.
>>26664909>EveryoneThree people said it looked ugly. Three people said it looked either good or fine. Most others were neutral.>postmodernismWell tbf it isn't anything new it's just an inversion of the old. Like purposely making things ugly isn't creating any new beauty it's just opposing the previous beauty standards. It is defined by its opposition to traditionalism, and thus can never truly be unique.A dislike for this sort of anti-design is not a fear of novelty it goes much much deeper than that.
peak styling was nips ripping off bongs
>>26664912Seemed like a KIA staple color like they wanted the NK market but now everyone has the Chairman Mao grey option. Every KIA I see is this color
>>26664917What? The guy's point was that the car is pretty and if you disagree you're poor. I never implied that because of the price it somehow makes a car uglier, I said the price does not make it pretty.
>>26664925I'm sorry but yeah a picture would be appreciated. How in the world can the angles and curves on this BMW actually be labeled postmodern? That phrase could easily be used as a catchall term to describe anything that you dislike aesthetically and that also happens to be new. Sure; there is beauty and meaning in car design, but it sorta feels like you're unnecessarily projecting other meanings and trends onto it. Like you're viewing the car unfairly because you've decided its a symptom of a greater problem in society or in arts.
>>26664930>Three people said it looked ugly. Three people said it looked either good or fine. Most others were neutral.fair enough>Well tbf it isn't anything new it's just an inversion of the old.I sympathize with this perspective, especially as someone who loves architecture. However; I have come to understand and learn to appreciate a lot of modern design. While a large percentage definitely tries too hard to think outside the box; there can be a lot of honest artistic innovation. You especially get a sense of this phenomenon when you look back at the history of architecture, music, or painting. There are many valid criticisms, but some (not even most) of you just have stubborn taste.
>>26664975>stubborn tasteI find the rigid academic categorisation for these things too normative and prescriptive.I think the value of all art is in its beauty, and beauty must therefore be art's main focus. Now there are certainly beautiful modern buildings, but it is the spirit in which most modern things are designed (profit driven, easy to construct, minimalist, empty, cold, passionless, lifeless, meaningless) that causes people to dislike it. That's why I said Picasso's art is shit, he chose to depict the ugliest most deformed and degenerate states of human consciousness possible, for some odd reason. This art brings us down, it does not uplift us nor speak to our higher selves or call forth our soul to love life and the world.
>>26664912I almost didn't see the grey Honda beside me yesterday. Fucker was the same color as the tarmac and hiding in my blind spot.
>>26664617Jesus it all makes sense now. Thanks for the pill.
>>26664617>Chinese are the issue>not the FATASS AMERICANS who have single handedly caused the size of vehicles worldwide to balloon while their negrified tastes have caused the death of numerous body styles and marques.
>>26664617I don't see the Chinese government pushing for new regulations every year. Our Western Goverment is always to Blame.
>>26664641Fucking m340i looks better
>>26664732and a ching chong ping pong to you too
>>26664919anons mom was already impregnated, bunkertroon
>>26664617BING CHI LING BING CHI LING
>>26664680fix the headlights and this would actually be quite aesthetic
>>26664617>all that marketing fluffi'm glad i switched majors.
>>26664617THE BIG YES
>>26664702Kind of looks makes me think of an altima
>>26667052Big grill mean big engine
>>26664617>powerful rearkek, marketing department working overtime here
>>26664617Honestly, not that bad. I kinda like the rear.
>>26664751Tbh I saw it few times by now and it grew quickly on me.Fuck normalfags, I like that odd design.>that cyberpunk vibes
>>26667052big grillbig money
>>26664617The rear and overall kind of squared off look is kind of cool actually.
>>26667052>bumper is covered and a there is place for the registration plate>buck teeth showing bumper underneath
>>26669275I've seen a 2023 m3 a few days ago and I have to say that they actually look good IRL, despite looking like absolute fucking dogshit in the promotional materials and pictures.How does that happen?
>>26669383>I've seen a 2023 m3 a few days ago and I have to say that they actually look good IRL, despite looking like absolute fucking dogshit in the promotional materials and pictures. How does that happen?
>>26664617ironic because the ching chongs get a way better looking ev exclusively
>>26669388I don't even like bmws produced after 2010, you fucking schizo. It's just that the new m3 somehow manages to look good in person.
>>26669394The connected lights and grill look like a dumpster fire on every bimmer.
>>26669396I mean its that or the giant coffin pig grill, take your pickIt's not even that bad, pre LCI G30 M340i is peak 2020's bmw design
lol they seriously talking about the brake lights TWICEholy cope
>>26669395that's funny because i think it looks even worse in person. the worst part is the owners always try to wave or some shit to me and i have to act like i think their car isn't a steaming pile of dog shit.
>>26669401>take your pickI'll just buy an e92 instead lol.>G30 M340iLooks like it wanted to be an audi with a bmw grill.
>>26667052Why is the color blue not exist in this image?I tried to change the cars in Gimp and blue is just gray.
>>26667052Looking back, I miss my e93 more and more.
>>26664617Only war can stop the culture from turning into bug culture
>>26664617>Precisely defined light source with L-shaped chrome stripoh my, i think i'm going to cum
>>26670299it's not even an L shape, just a fucking straight line with a kink in it
>>26669459Love my non iDive e90.Only mod I'm considering it paddle shift retrofit.
>>26664617They gave it chink eyes
I dont know who has worse tasteactual chinksor the automakers who pander to chinks