I think it's already happening.
>>26450463> due to health problems Why does our own body kills itself with age ?
If you don't like that price find a cheaper one
>>26450529>anon can't read this
>>26450468We were never meant to make it this long anonWe were meant to die fighting mammoths and other unga bungas
>>26450468shitty design
>>26450463>that home made hood scooplooks like a toilet clipping through the motor
>>26450463Yes. It will happen. Gen X largely isn't interested in shit like this and they have about 30% of the wealth boomers hold. Millenials do care about shit like this and would absolutely get into it, but they hold something like 5% of the wealth boomers do in spite of the older millenials being in their 40's: if a generational wealth transfer was ever going to happen, the shift would've already started a long time ago. When boomers as a whole go, corporations will get their money. Zoomers are in a similar boat to millenials.Classic car values are going to crater over the next couple decades, but it'll be slow. Boomers still have 10-20 years left.
>1973 front grill but I have 1970 to go with it...Why would you swap for the objectively worse frowny face grille that nobody likes
Nope, even on their death beds, their last words will be "I know what I got."
>>26450564There’s more and more people and increasingly less classic cars. The number of people that want classic cars is small, the number of people that just want the idea of owning them and have obscene wealth is only going to increase.As long as interest exists the wealthy will keep buying them up and using them as a way to store wealth.Trucks and SUVs are on their way up now. A decent shape Scout II in 2014 was $5-7k. The exact same scout today is $30k. Find something you like that hadn’t skyrocketed and just jump in.
>>26450572Boomer has had that car for so long he was updating it to the current look when he did it
>>26450532I'm not the one who expects a car that's over half a century old and in fixable condition to be free. When you consider that on average cars are tossed before they're even 15 years old, how can you expect one that's all there at 52 to be free?Find. A. Cheaper. One.
>>26450463The death of boomers will literally improve everything. It's not happening fast enough.
>>26450642I’m really interested in seeing who you blame in 10 years when 75% of the remaining boomers are dead.
>>26450639is this ai?
>>26450534>unga bungasYou're not allowed to call them that any more
>>26450649honestly the world is slowly getting better and better as boomers are dying offit might literally all fix itself in the next decade as the last boomer takes his last breath
>>26450741But it’s zoomers and millennials destroying all the classic JDM cars by drifting them into walls. That’s exactly what will happen to classic Muscle Cars when poor retarded classless idiots get ahold of them due to low intelligence and usually a browner hue of skin.These retards like you don’t understand supply and demand.You are also the exact same retard that says where did all the cars I wanted go? They were all meant to be driven into walls. That doesn’t actually destroy the car or their value. My boomer parents will just build a new car for me to mindlessly shit on and drift into a wall.So fucking retarded.Yes, that’s you.
>>26450741Did you just have piss poor parents or did you fall for the boomer meme? This idea you have that it’s one generation that’s holding you back is literally what is holding you back. Were your boomer parents college educated per chance? Their parents?I’m towards the end of millennial and have everything I want, a house, multiple fun cars, wife, etc and live comfortably without worrying about some imaginary group holding me back.
>>26450771The oldest zoomers are barely out of college. They can't afford JDM cars, retard.
>>26450786It's much easier to blame one's shitty, burger flipping life and struggling to make rent or living with their parents than it is to admit they could have done more
>>26450786>>26450792trust ze plan
>>26450793I'm 36 and in a very very comfortable spot in my life. That chart makes me smile because I know that if it continues like that, your generation really, truly does not stand a chance...and honestly you don't deserve one.
>>26450793Who knew, the older people that worked for 40 years and received their parents inheritance have more money than people that have only been out of college for 5-10 years with living parents.There will always be people that have more wealth than you, focus on building yourself not whining over your piss poor childhood.
>>26450786Boomers basically had the golden era of capitalism under them. They had cheap housing, cheap costs of living, cheap schooling, great wages, great prospects. Everything after them has been objectively worse from a financial perspective as wages failed to grow with productivity and the overall wealth of subsequent generations is significantly less.
>>26450806You should probably kys over it rather than ignoring what happened in the past and doing what you can to make your life better.
>>26450803Are you retarded? Read that graph again. Boomers had MORE money at the same age as you at any age too.
>>26450800>has a fraction of the wealth his cohorts would have a few decades ago>is happy because his successors will have even lessBuck broken>>26450803Read the chart again bud.
>>26450817>>is happy because his successors will have even lessIs happy because he has a good job, his wife has a good job, they own a nice home, and he has money to do whatever he wants. My 1 (one) child will have everything she needs because we were pragmatic and will only continue to build wealth....
>>26450810>says some stupid shit>gets proven wrong>just KYS!like pottery
>>26450825>That chart makes me smile because I know that if it continues like that, your generation really, truly does not stand a chance...and honestly you don't deserve one.so you’re “smiling” because of undisclosed reasons, then
>>26450806I have the advantage of having the ledgers from my family business going back to the 1950s showing wages of my father and grandfather. I also have the total cost spent to build my grandfathers house and the cost of my parents houses.As a percentage of income I afford a larger house than my parents or grandparents when they were my age, and at least for my parents I enjoy an interest rate 1/4 of what they had and 1/2 the income taxes they paid.Your failure is not your parents fault.You’re not suddenly going to begin making an inflation adjusted $250k a year wage slaving once the last boomer dies
>>26450839>my particular anecdote means all that data you have? its WRONG because I SAID SO>pls take me seriously >:(
>>26450829>WrongAs it pertains to my life (the one that matters) I'm completely correct. The boomer boogey man has not affected my life to any noticeable degree. My dad immigrated from Ireland to be a carpenter and my mom was a school teacher...both boomers. My life is far more comfortable than theirs was at my age because I got a degree in something that mattered and married a woman that did too.
>>26450810Pathetic.
>>26450806That is not boomers fault. It’s Jewish supremacy in action. Don’t like it? Try number 110.
>>26450842Your choice, you’re the one dissatisfied your place in life. I’m just pointing out some of us got serious and didn’t take the blackpill.
>>26450463>all those modificationsI'll never understand. Why do boomers, car niggers in general actually, look up to specific makes/models so much when they just modify the car to hell and back to the point where it wouldn't matter if it started as a fiat or dodge because it's the same thing at the end?
>>26450848What's pathetic is living your entire life mad at a bunch of old people who will be dead long before you hit middle age. You can do better :)
>>26450853>says some stupid shit>gets proven wrong>kys>bruh ur pathetic>you know ACKTUALLY u are for pointing out fax.
>>26450857>It's okay to wallow in self pity because boomers had more money. >woe is me Our views of right vs wrong here are subjective. I live comfortably and have made good decisions allowing me to do everything I've wanted. You've decided to give up and let them win. I'll rest happy knowing that my kid will have a better life from her first breath than you.
>>26450468Because when you were a child, your retarded parents who "trusted the science" injected you with dozens of vaccines, aka dna/rna implants, that fill your body with foreign dna strands causing your own body to spend its life attacking its own parts (reminder there was no such thing as an autoimmune disease before vaccines).
>>26450875I know you're being pedantic and backpedaling hard but you can be critical of history, the current state of affairs and still trudge onwards. Your projection that his is slowing anyone down through their raw jadedness isn't real. For example yes I do make significantly more and own more than my parents because relatively speaking they were poor in their generation and I am reasonably middle class. Those things do happen. When you actually look at history and the things that existed that don't anymore, financially speaking, there were so many more devices that made living significantly easier for them than they do today and why objectively society today is far more degraded. I can point out those facts, analyze them and not be some doomer meme shit.
>>26450886This is true. There is a reason why apples keep doctors away. They are afraid of knowledge. Adam and Eve. Bible. Eden. God. It all comes back to this. Apples make you immortal. You have nothing to lose.
>>26450771fuck off, racist
>>26450463They will take these cars to the grave
>>26451081nigger
>>26450564this is correct; people holding out for the 'great generational wealth transfer' are in for a really unpleasant surprise soon
>>26450542https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLd6174bz2k
>>26450468Boomers treated themselves like absolute shitDrinking, smoking fried foods every day etc
>>26451120Hell, I just wanted boomers to give me their job. Can't even have that.
>>26451220Thanks to modern medicine we can keep you barely hanging on for another decade. It won't be cheap.
>>26450588This. If you want, say, a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T, the death of Boomers won't make them more accessible. They'll continue to appreciate in value because they're extremely desireable. The price of similar Plymouth Satellites and Dodge Darts may fluctuate, but not significantly for 440 Commandos or Swingers. You have to find the lesser desired models and get them while the getting is good.I'm a Mopar guy and would love some of the marquee models, but I'm realistic. I've bought and sold several D/W pickups and Ramchargers because they appeal to me and fit the bill for classic Mopar icons. 318 models are cheap and accessible, but even 6BT First Gens can be had for reasonable prices if you hunt. I snatched up a Ramcharger body swapped W250 a couple years ago and made it into my main project. It's not a replacement for my dream Charger, but it is a great old truck with neat styling and it's just janky enough I can do retarded shit with it and still turn heads driving it around.
>>26450463>mopar thats been rotting in a garage with 112,345 milesfair price
>>26450564only for crap with no aftermarketpopular stuff like mustangs will stay the same
>>2645057273' front is better, deal with it
>>26451106Guys watch out I think he's serious! The nerf gun is cocked AND loaded
>>26451106
>>26450588>Scout IIBabby scout or nothing
>>26450463Generational warfare is nothing more than menchildren not being able to cope with life and are resorting to blame their parents for their own mistakes they did in the past.Nobody gives a shit if you had a shitty life, if you cant deal with it then kill yourself.
I thought this thread would be an interesting discussion of market trends but it's just more bootstrap larping like in every other thread that isn't about EVs or bus rider brand warring. What a fucking shit board.
>>26451382if you want to discuss markets then go to the proper board, /biz/, you imbecile
>>26451382I find these sorts of bootstrap retards very strange, honestly. Most anons drive shitboxes, not supercars.
>>26450463>Sad mouth>Paint all fucked up>Parts that don't fit>Parts that don't fit AND aren't even the same color as the rest of the car>Stupid hood>90% missing/fucked up trims>etc, etcIn a non-retarded world, 15k is way overpriced for that pos. Sadly, I happen to like those old pos, and I happen to be somewhat retarded.But yeah, as the older generations go, there should be a shift in prices, also, I'm hoping AMD & 3d metal printing will put an end to collector's greed.
>>26451766>AMD & 3d metal printing will put an end to collector's greedLikely not because the real value is in having a complete version of an in-demand car.That said though, those things will make it much easier and cheaper to repair, restore, and upkeep a car, which will be a benefit.
>>26450534We used to live for a pretty long time and generally made it to 70 or so even in ancient times if you survived childhood
>>26451106Good post. Noice.
>>26450468most people can't bring themselves to walk on a treadmill for 30min a week.
>>26450463>excellent condition
>>26451975>Likely not because the real value is in having a complete version of an in-demand car.Sorry, I expressed myself poorly, by collector's greed I meant rustbuckets that are only expensive because 'I know what I got.' I got no quarrel with people that cared for their vehicles for 50+ years.I suppose there'll be a market for 'truly original' cars (well, that already happens somewhat with fiberglass + sheet metal reproduction parts, vin matching and whatever), but right now everything's being treated as 'I know what I got', if we can print whichever part we need, that puts a cap on greedy rustbucket prices.Take me, for instance, I'm just a guy that wants a decent 70 Challie with a v8, some stuff to prevent rust, and that's about it. I don't care about vin matching, don't care about parts being better painted and better fitted than the vehicles actually rolled from the factory - but I'm not paying premium prices for something I know has little comfort, no safety, doesn't handle great, and, especially, could be cheaply produced today.
>>26450463No, jews will keep prices artificially high forever.
>>26452152>projection
>>26452077You're retarded. You can already buy every single part for these cars, brand new. 3D printing won't fix prices, because the base price for a rust bucket is at astronomical levels.See this: >>26451267Someone with "fuck you" money doesn't care if the rust bucket is 10, 20, 30, 50 or even 100k, they'll buy it, restore it within an inch of it's life an sell it years later for a million at Mecum or Barret Jackson.I just bought a 1966 Dodge Coronet, pristine car with an original 41k miles on it. That thing cost me 15k because it has a 225ci 6cyl in it, the equivalent 426 Hemi powered car went for 660k at auction just a couple years ago. Worth it? No, but to someone with money, they don't care.I could have the same car by just building a 426 and getting a 727 Torqueflite, for a 10th of the money.
>>26452157Yikes. Let's unpack this.
>>26452255Lets rather just burn the whole suitcase; with you and your faggot nigger family in it.
>>26452200>You're retarded. You can already buy every single part for these cars, brand new.I'm not talking door panels or a hood, nigger. I'm talking whole cars, any part I might want, any model I might want, any year I might want.Only Dynacorn made 70-71 Challenger body shells, and they stopped production because it didn't sell well. There's only a few such shells remaining out there, and they're being sold through Moonlight Classics, Hemmings, etc,. at almost 20k. That's more than the rust bucket in the OP, for literally a shell + doors -- and all the headache on bad fitting/accuracy that Dynacorn is known for.>3D printing won't fix prices, because the base price for a rust bucket is at astronomical levels.The bucket in OP won't be 15k if I can just 3d print the car myself for less. No boomer greed, no shit ass reproduction company trying to rip me off. Again, you're treating it as if I'm talking about replacing some broken handle or some shit, I'm not.
>>26452275Who hurt you?
>>26450564I have literally never seen a 20 year old with money go after a classic car. They want lambos
>>26452439That's because dynacorn is trash
>>26452077>Sorry, I expressed myself poorly, by collector's greed I meant rustbuckets that are only expensive because 'I know what I got.' I got no quarrel with people that cared for their vehicles for 50+ years.>I suppose there'll be a market for 'truly original' cars (well, that already happens somewhat with fiberglass + sheet metal reproduction parts, vin matching and whatever), but right now everything's being treated as 'I know what I got', if we can print whichever part we need, that puts a cap on greedy rustbucket prices.The thing anon is that you said it yourself; the market is ALREADY like that. The distinguishing factor in terms of price isn't whether you 3D printed the car or not, it's whether you can pop open the hood and check the VIN and match that number to a mid-century manufacturer record book. If you can't do that, then the car is only worth the printing cost minus depreciation from use and will never be worth more than that since you can print whatever you want.If you just care about having the car for style points then that's perfectly fine, and I think for the most part that will let people do whatever they want with their cars. But outside of that, if you want to buy a car as an investment, you're going to have to deal with the prices of the "real" cars, and those are only ever going to come down if demand for those cars decreases.>>26452898I think that there will be a boomerang effect as there tends to be for things like this. The cars will fall out of style as people move to JDMs or other things that they think are cool from their youth, and then after a while as the cars become even rarer due to lack of buyers, lack of care, and being left to rot out in fields, for some reason or another demand will come roaring back and the price will go up again if not become greater due to the death of more cars due to disuse and lack of care. The same boom-and-bust cycle happens to all old things; vinyl is back and so is thrifting.
>>26450564Zoomers don't care about cars at all, the ultimate zoomer status symbol is living in a "walkable city."
>>26450463If i was going to buy a classic car i want a unmolested one, not one that mr boomer ruined with 50k on custom parts
>>26452898yeah, because "20 year old with money" still can't afford an actual garage to work on a project car
>>26453908which they'll never prioritize over rent and other necessities.
>>26453887zoomers don’t care or even want that shit, that’s a meme or at worst a globalist shill push.In fact I just read an article showing data where cities are losing population At the highest percentages since the 1940s.Cities are an antiquated idea that has run their course. Technology has rendered them outdated leaving only the poorest walking their streets.
>>26453887>>26453920People who hate walkable cities just haven't been to Europe. Being able to walk to dinner, walk to the corner store to grab some groceries, walk to work, etc. is actually incredible. Unfortunately, even if I could walk anywhere in my cold shithole "city", I'd get fucking robbed and murdered within 5 minutes of walking out my door.
>>26453908you should not google "streamers net worth" if you think that.
>>26453926those people are effectively lottery winners, not really representative of wider societal trends
>>26453924I’ve been to multiple cities in Europe through work and lived in a very walkable city in uni. I have no interest in ever returning to such living arrangements.
>>26453939Not wanting to live in one is not a reason to dislike walkable cities, though. It's not as if suburban and rural areas suddenly disappear if you make your cities pedestrian accessible.
>>26453937>the only zoomers that can afford to do x thing don't want to do x thing>No, not them!so what are you talking about then?
>>26453945I don’t think I gave a personal opinion of walkable cities.There’s very little industry left in city centers to desire, everything has moved to suburbs leaving low income housing, corner stores and church’s as the main draw. There was a time when you had to live in cities to get high paying jobs, today you can find most well paying jobs outside of cities in areas where the typical cost of living is half that of the city proper. You want walkable cities, I have to ask for who? Those who are still stuck in those areas with no means of escape?
>>26450468Boomers treated their body like shit. In Japan they regularly get up to 90-100.
>>26453945>not liking something is not a reason to dislike itReally now.
>>26450463Its quite possible, in my limited experience most guys my age that I know of wrote off muscle cars as being hnaffordable a long time ago, and adjusted their interests accordingly.
>>26450468Basically your body can only copy its own cells so many times before it gets it wrong. When too many wrong cells build up, you die.
>>26453979I don't enjoy chocolate icecream. I don't think that ice cream shops should stop selling it, though.
>>26453900That's precisely why this one is priced so low
>don't like it, just start your own businessBoomers are so fucking delusional. They grew up with all rungs left on the ladder and easily climbed and broke every single rung on it while they climbed to the top.
>>26454265Who are you going to blame for your failures when they're gone?
>>26454497boomers. the damage they've done will go on for centuries
>>26450463Unless you absolutely have to have an old car, why the fuck bother?If you simply want horsepower as a number on the cheap, a 15 year old Charger (as a modest example) is a much better deal.Have you even driven ANY car from this era, muscle car or not? It's not a glamorous experience, LOL. That said, if you really insist... please keep looking, and try to avoid some old guys half baked project screwup like the one in the picture you posted.
>>26450579NO LOWBALLLLEEEEERSSSS! *shakes fist at sky*
guys, im... im jelqing!
>>26453920Bullshit. Almost all young people (including whites) hate freedom and personal responsibility and always want to move to an even denser and less private city. Those that don't like Piker and Second Thought and Vaush just think they're going to be the next Uday Hussein and no one will question their mansions and supercars which will somehow still exist without capitalism subsidizing all of it.>>26453924Americans (and the rest of the New World Anglosphere for that matter) are so numb to crime and depravity in their own cities (most enjoy and embrace it) and so ideologically blinded they go to Western Europe and don't recognize the even more rampant shootings and rapes and robberies as being even worse than where they came from. They have a motte and bailey doctrine of denying it exists but acknowledging that it does when they need to kill or destroy more or to say it's a good thing. They also won't ever accept that American taxpayer money almost entirely solely pays for all of Europe and Australia and East Asia's (except for China's) infrastructure and healthcare and is why their own will never be fixed (not to mention the climate in all of those areas being much more temperate with less severe weather than most of North America and nobody in those places working anymore leading to less necessary medical intervention, on top of the century of eugenics programs they've all benefitted from.) They'll say that we should just copy Japan or Singapore verbatim while tying themselves into knots saying that their homogeneity and strictly enforced laws are not the reasons for their safety and that they need to accept demographic replacement and communism like the West cause it's what daddy Karl would want. Zoomers are even worse than boomers and gen alpha is the last generation of the former Germanic world
>>26450564Gen X are massively into muscle cars.
>>26454497Thomas Midgley Jr.This single man is personally responsible for the downfall of the west. Leaded gasoline AND cfc’s. And it’s not like he didn’t know what he was doing either, he fucking knew.
>>26450649The remaining 25%.
>>26454874I already own a car from the era as a weekend cruiser and I'm currently looking for a more daily friendly option. I've driven a lot of cars at the dealership and nothing does it for me the way old cars do. I'm allergic to anything build afr 1975
>>26451173based Red Green enjoyermy old man used to watch this show with me when i was a kid
>>26454187not just that. oxygen is needed to survive but at the same time it is also damaging pretty much anything it touches (oxidation). Your body also gets oxidised by oxygen, and for this it has repair mechanisms in place that are running 24/7 to fix the damage. Antioxidants are used in both engines and bodies to combat the effects of oxygen. Unfortunately for us, these repair mechanisms eventually fail with age and you eventually die.
>>26450468It's a defense mechanism against being alive.
>>26450791They buy JDM cars on loans, then crash them trying to drift in the mountains, then they get paid out by insurance and buy another.I'm not joking, I know people who have done this, zoomers are driving JDM prices up as much as anyone else.
>>26450463>will the death of boomers drive down the price of classic muscle cars?To some extent. They will still definitely hold value simply due to a dwindling supply but there will be less overall demand from younger generations for them. Wouldn't be surprised if many start coming up for sale at huge bargains because of boomer children selling off cars they got from inheritance.
>>26456383No, think of them like art. Jews buy paintings and sell them to each other for crazy prices as "investments" even if they're worthless. They artificially inflate the market for tax and insurance scams. That's what they're doing with classic cars now. With boomers' help, as usual, because they're the most lead poisoned retarded cattle ever created.
>>26456383>boomer children selling off cars they got from inheritance.yup, black ghost challie being auctioned by the buyer's grandson, but that one will hold value forever as it's a quite special car
>>26458405I mean, at some point that car is going to make it's way to a museum, or some collection. A car like that isn't really drivable. It's totally understandable to sell it, imo.
>>26456298Who gives a fuck if your car is RHD or not? Very very few models were Japan exclusive, and when you learn how to not be a fucking wrenchlet, every car is essentially just a skin for you to drop in whatever the fuck you want
>>26450468The 20th and 21st centuries saw sedentary lifestyles, unhealthy foods, increase in pollution like micro plastics and clever chemcials, and stressful work, school, and social lives.Every day is a drain. >>2645289820 year olds can’t even afford OP’s pic. >>26456129At least we don’t build up rust
>>26458455I own two classic muscle cars and I'm 26. It's called budgeting, retard. Sorry you're poor and/or retarded
>>26450649>seeing who you blame in 10 yearshe will blame whoever the govt and msm tells him to hate. just like now
>>26450726ok. call them booga doogas then
>>26458594and it definitely won't be jewish bankers
>>26450771I expect a lot to end up like this, minor damage and insurance puts them into the junk yard, no opportunity for you to buy it.>>26450463As a kid I would see an old car in boomers yards and think how cool it would be to restore it but over time the nagging wife would make them bring it to the junk yard or sometimes sell it for $500. I expect a bunch of half finished projects sent to the junk yard. Zoomers don't have houses so where are they going to put those $500 muscle cars.>>26450564Thats what I've seen, gen x will say stuff like I'm just not interested in cars. I have seen a decent number of zoomers who want to get into cars and back into the trades such as welding, could be because their parents never had interesting cars.>>26451766I think 3D printing can get there but it is super important to 3D scan every single part of classic cars now whilie we still can. Its the less popular cars I'm more concerned about, boomers seem to disregard the 4 door landbarges but those are the ones I like the best and with some models there would only be less than 100 left. 3D scanning is alright but I think I might just manually measure my car and put it into freecad. In some ways replicating the panels and casting parts is a lot less complicated than people make it out to be. Its not like trying to remake a colour crt computer monitor.>>26451267The dodge charger even the most uninterested zoomer knows they can chuck it on ebay for a decent amount. I have seen decent cars out in from of peoples yards, you have to be in the right place because they will leave it there for a couple of months and then send it to the junk yard. A lot of boomers would be too lazy to even list it on ebay.
>>26450639If it was in flawless condition, it wouldn't be worth $15,000.