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Welcome to the Auto Vidya General. Join the series.

Previous thread >>26092223

>Wiki
https://get-good.net

>Mumble
IP: mumble.get-good.net
Port: 64738
Password: 4ch

>Chat
https://chat.get-good.net

>Equipment Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNo

>We're playing RBR and soon ACTC in Assetto Corsa. Check the doc for more info:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q
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Semen motores
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My reading comprehension is immaculate.
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Anyone have a mirror to the RSS GT pack
I need more snek
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>>26106794
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Do I just throw my name in the sheet if I wanna sign-up for ACTC
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>>26106874
Yes, but also at least pick what sort of car you wanna drive so the server has enough of each
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>>26106898
I can't access the Mumble, keeps telling me wrong server password
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>>26106906
You can guess it unless you're a glowie
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>>26106915
Guess I'm a glowie then since it says 4ch in the OP but that doesn't work
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>>26106918
What might the password possibly be if it's not the one in the OP? Hmmmm... Guess we'll never know
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>>26106922
I'm asking specifically because it doesn't work
Maybe my Mumble's broken idk man
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rbretards the shakedown rally is online, it's the vanilla rbr stages you all know and love on all three surfaces. remember it's a non-scoring event so crash as much as you want it won't matter a bit in the end. good luck, the link is in the doc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit#gid=143822816
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>>26106930
How long do I have to get a run in? I wont be able to for a few days.
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>>26106941
i think it works from friday to monday
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>>26106941
Monday 12:00 gmt, it doesn't really matter if you miss this round its just a warmup for the real thing, but one leg takes like 15 minutes to drive and there's two for the whole weekend
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>>26106924
It's a riddle, what can you say on this site you cannot say on Reddit or Discord or while in service of the United States Government?
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>>26106965
V*lrys
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>>26106970
Wasn't this dude famous in lolg in 2012?
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>>26106981
>dude
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>>26107060
>>26106981
He was an impostor
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>>26107060
Shut up faggot.
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>>26107060
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thinking of organizing a series where we beatbox battle each other on mumble while racing 1v1
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btw there's a drift server where some people from FOSS discord go slide every now and then.
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>>26107188
FOSS?
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>>26107200
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Anyone wanna hop on mumble and teach me how to drift in AC some time?
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>>26107215
I wish Speed Dreams had more success
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test
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symmetrical awd is the biggest fucking lazy ass mechanic bullshit. all these fucking things do is understeer until you need to pull away but by then the rears are already spinning and instead of pulling you out it just rotates you more. why the fuck would anybody need so much in the front? 30/70 or hell even 60/40 would be better than this fucking bullshit. i should not have to flail my arms around just so the rears break sooner. fucking bullshit.
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>>26107288
60/40 is possible in fully mechanical systems
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>>26107293
seems you can achieve this by tuning the diffs.. interesting
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>>26107288
this sounds like a skill issue to me
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>>26107218
man I played the fuck out of TORCS on my grandmas laptop back in the day even though it was clearly made for autistic uni students to make AI for, didnt know there were forks of it
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>>26107217
just watch someone good do it
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>>26107341
I have.
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this thing is pretty cool
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>>26107350
lol dont tell me they just took the 641 mod and put a 333 body over it
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>>26107403
that being said why there hasnt been a rss gt series here, dont tell me its because of muh balance
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>>26107413
were already doing huehue cars this weekend but that would be a great idea if noone shows up and the series gets cancelled
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>>26107323
was practicing in the rain on a bunch of tarmac hairpins. turns out on pretty much everything else it's super nice to drive
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How to make /ovg/ jealous with one simple trick
https://youtu.be/Pkt4NFoaHbE
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>>26107479
the funny thing is many F1 drivers (lewis, max etc) don't even like driving on the road
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>>26107575
jonathan rea a six time superbike champion didnt have a riding licence until he was 34
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>>26106794
Automation spitball idea:
Fastest car you can send around the automation handling course
2.2L engine limit, all sliders 0, nothing else held.
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>>26107335
The fork even supports FFB afaik
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>>26107575
>>26107584
cars and racing are just two different interests, like video games and sims, don't really have to be into one to like the other but there is often some overlap
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>>26107479
He must be thinking what a shitbox it is.
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>>26107479
>This is a car from Omoshiro Rent-A-Car, but it was not taken with permission from our company. Such driving is strictly prohibited.
https://twitter.com/info82262789/status/1595637313517719552
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Are there any assetto career mods that are actually like, fun?
Like old gran turismos actually having progression and car variety in the races and that makes it fun
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https://youtu.be/zJUcNRmjBrk
https://youtu.be/OSMCfPASImQ

this car is able to be driven smoothly at speed right?

they are just pushing the car to beyond the edge of grip every turn right?

otherwise I'd just continue tondrive a lamborghini and Ferrari F40 on the shutoko server instead
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>>26108537
assetto corsa evoluzione
just like gran turismo you must pay for it, i.e. patreon
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>>26108554
i absolutely hate drifting

its more aesthetical and elegant to drive smooth like a butterfly and fast like an eagle


I want to drive a supercar like the lamborghini simply because its view in the same light as a mustang. Cars for idiots who dont know how to drive, where does that leave people who can drive smoothly at speed? Also I dont want to be like everyone else, a jdm-nerd, I want to stand out
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>>26108561
after some afterthough the yellowbird is just far too ugly

lamborghini is a prestigious luxury brand. Dumb jdm-nuts wouldnt understand the appeal of luxury
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>>26108554
>this car is able to be driven smoothly at speed right?
Eh. Old turbo Porsches were already widowmakers and Ruf was a bunch of drunk Germans deciding they want even more power and less weight.
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>>26108561
a good driver is always drifting
just not enough for anyone else to notice
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>>26108571
a good driver utilizes slip angle

a retard gas-huffing burnoutfag does drifting

Drifters always look like chimpanzees to me absolute retard circus animals.
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>>26108575
when a drifter "needs" more grip
>aye lmao
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>>26108583
dirty low class ape
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>>26108554
>this car is able to be driven smoothly at speed right?
it's based on a 911 so yeah of course but since it's 911-based and pre-996 at that, your inputs need to be isolated and smooth as silk but a little bit of sliding won't slow the car down that much because it's so light
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>>26108585
bit low iq of you.
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>>26108589
enjoy lung cancer from inhaling too many burnt tire fumes you retarded monkey
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>>26108556
Based ill pirate it
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>>26108604
you will install 47+ more in order to play it though
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>>26108615
does it include 1000 terrible mod cars or do you put your cars into it seperately
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>>26108554
Me I drive the civic, s2000, poopra, and r34. All handle great. The civic is literally cheating too. You can literally never over or understeer.
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>>26106794
slow dey
anyone needs a livery?
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>>26108669
no i'm good thanks
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>>26108650
It has a couple of cars and tracks that will be used in some events that it will require you to download, but it mostly relies on stock content + dlcs
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I hate wrong wheel drive (fwd)

fwd is only meant for the daily driving (i.e. slow) just like EVs
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the 'toko server broke my previous traction circle so i discovered a much better one instead
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>>26108757
you're trying too hard
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>>26108762
>you got enough user interfaces there champ?

Well heres the funny thing about that

I have this headcannon that because modern (cyberpunk) era, there isnt much stopping such informative displays and meters to be projected inside the racing helmet

with that being said

ABS is a crutch and not needed along with traction control
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>>26108783
i could ofcourse have one more, camber extravaganza, but it hasnt really mattered to me so much but probably could later because my driving consistency has skyrocketed since installing traction circle
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Guys I wanna do some DIY shit and I need to pick a wheel rim first. Would you say suede is bad? I'm not about to get all autistic and use gloves though. That's why I'm thinking leather is the clear choice, although a lot of the options for a reasonable price are suede. I'd be fine as long as I'm sure it wont be dogshit.
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>>26108783
no i mean your terrible attempts at baiting
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>>26108757
i really like having both being able go read mph and kph

plus i have adhd so in-general I like all the stufferino on screen
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seriously driving on the 'toko traffic server is so boring why do people play on that instead of the no traffic servers?
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>>26108762
yea they reek of desperation for any sort of attention
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>>26108762
No i think shes genuine
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>>26108561
when you get to the top...you ever been to the top?
just listen, lemme tell ya
hear what you're missing, shut up and listen
in the beginning you'll get crazy spending all the money you got
no more women to love you now
you gotta go and leave town
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when is the 'toko server going to add more luxury cars ?

ugly interior cars are so boring. Can we get some more mercedes, bmw, lamborghini, ferrari, and audis?
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>>26108561
GOD IMAGINE GETTING PEGGED BY CYNTHIA HOLY FUCK I NEED IT
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drifting isnt a skill its a dumb circus trick

the reason why american highways dont let you go faster than 100mph is because the car becomes harder to control the faster it goes. Turning too much could literally kick the rear out and then you're dead
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what is this literal shit bait
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>>26108570
the Yellowbird on the SRP servers is not the normal one because it's too fast, SRP fags "BOPed" it by swapping the engine and tires and fucking with the aero, which makes it hilariously unstable to the point where it just spins out by itself in a straight line, while the real one romps up to 200+ like a guided missile and makes short work of every other machine on the server.
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>>26108843
drifting will always be slower cope
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>>26108735
I like fwd becuse its inherently compromised and you have to work around it
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Is a Logitech G920 for 200 burgerbux gud? Never had a wheel before. Feel like I'm limited in ass corsa with my controller.
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>>26108886
thats retarded

literally 99% of FAST race cars are awd or rwd

with that being said im leaving 'toko because its way too boring and anyone competent enough to drive for minute without crashing is literally an alien

Im going off to race prototypes instead
(Praga R1 races for now, Group C later)

f1 cars are so ugly
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>>26108991
you will be limited with a steering wheel you dolt

I drive just fine with a controller because I use a traction circle visual aid
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>>26109036
>>26109033
retard
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>>26109053
slow wheel cuck

even with a wheel you cant interpret any gforce LOL!!!!!!
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>>26109054
retard
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>>26109057
copium
you know im right

irl drivers can barely interpret gforce themselves
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>>26108991
yeah it's a pretty good price
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>>26109058
>copium
>you know im right
>
>irl drivers can barely interpret gforce themselves
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>>26109062
doesnt invalid my argument

buying a wheel and pedals in its entirety is a meme
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>>26109062
you need to be 18 to post here
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>https://youtu.be/fr0RLs9jLBw

all this equipment and hes literally spazzing out on a simple on-ramp towards the C1

what an absolute joke
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>>26109062
are there really retards here who take the literal worst baits I've ever seen
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>>26109121
shes genuine and right though
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>>26109124
a genuine retard maybe
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>>26109128
says the wheelcuck retard
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>>26109090
>>26109096
>>26109121
>>26109124
>>26109101
>>26109128
ok retard
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>>26109149
not an argument

you're not suddenly going to be good at the game if you buy a wheel. You need to get a feel for ffb and even then its still barely anything since you cant interpret g-force
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>>26109145
learn to bait civictard this is too low iq even for here
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>>26109159
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supercars are meant to be driven gracefully, not drifted

you lowbrow drifters wouldnt know grace from an armpit

>>26109101
wheelcucks struggle so hard to drive in a straight line AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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>>26109196
shes right though
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https://youtu.be/Gj90QaKq3Nk

ugh touge
*vomit*

>speed up
>slow to a crawl for a hairpin
>speed up again
>come to a near complete stop to get around another hairpin

how can anyone consider this fun yaaaaawn
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get this

when you are at the southern parts of the 3/4 lane highway on the 'toko server you are literally stuck behind cars that drive 50/60 mph on a twolane road like irl traffic for a huge portion of the wangan until you can get back on it

on the two lanes you're forced to do between 50,60, and 80-100mph meanwhile you can literally cruise down the 3-4 lane wangan at 150mph +/- with ease

you can cut the mirai by taking the offramp just before it but you totally force to take that two land road back north

literal slog
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>>26109252
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>>26109252
whomst inquired?
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>>26109259
yawn

thats why i'd rather race prototypes on random short circuits and work my consistency up so I can enjoy endurance races on the nordschliefe in the mercedes
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>>26106930
>roll car into the goddamn snowbanks
>become member of stance nation
yooooooo *rips vape*
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>>26109320
>SEBA
xD
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>>26109320
#stancenation #fuckautiovaara #frfr
>>26108669
p.s rguy you missed the gravel and snow rims for the negromobile
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>>26108669
been working on an ai lfs skin todey, still can't figure out the main sponsor, best suggestion gets a free livery
how's ur dey?

>>26109461
>rguy you missed the gravel and snow rims
this feature is only available on the premium edition
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>>26109515
Looks like Brazil colors. How about Petrobras?
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>>26109461
its nice to see the hard work of being an rbretard paying off though, mr.hawk doesn't seem that absolutely untouchable this time, he might have to work a bit for his wins, cant wait for the series to kick off
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>>26109557
h-hayai
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based
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>>26109557
I'm moving cities right now, so instead of the rig I'm driving with keyboard+mousesteer. but you're not wrong, the delta getting this close shows gud pace. will be a fun series. although I do hate R5 cars
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>>26109777
I think the results will be more unpredictable this RBR series. Also because I am rather mediocre with R5 cars compared to Group B RWD and A8 / WRC 2.0. cars.
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>>26109804
That's weird, the r5s drive very close to the 2litre wrc class imo
>>26109777
I don't love them either but they are the easiest fast cars to drive
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>>26109835
I'll probably tinker a bit more with the set-up more, as I feel the R5 brakes are a lot worse than the WRC 2.0. brakes despite having about 30hp and and 100nm torque less with the same weight in general.
Or maybe that difference in engine power gets me out of hairy moments more often than with R5 cars.
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>>26109777
>>26109557
you must have jedi reflexes if you drive that fast
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You like Bugbear Entertainment? Their early work was a little too simulation for my taste. But when FlatOut came out in '04, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole game has a rough, tumble feel, and a innovative use of ragdoll physics that really gives the action a big boost. It's been compared to games like Burnout, but I think FlatOut has a far more grounded, rugged style of gameplay. In '06, Bugbear released this; FlatOut 2 their most accomplished game. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Demon Speeding". A song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of Rob Zombie and the importance of Demon Speeding. It's also a personal statement about the game itself.
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>>26110063
YOU TAKE A MORTAL MAN
AND PUT HIM IN CONTROL
WATCH HIM BECOME A GOD
AND PEOPLES HEADS A-ROLL
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>>26110077
I honestly associated that song more with Full Auto 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1tN_yq6ps
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>>26110063
they're okay
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>>26107413
gt open was rss gt3 physics and that was last year
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>>26110209I
I meant the gt1 mod, you know the one that's actually good
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>>26110217
i will race those if we do the same thing as with open gt where you can have a custom car body
and also When You Make It(tm)
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almost got away with it too
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>>26110231
I'm not making anything I'm a customer here, doing things is your job
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>>26110233
the worst is that they are placed randomly each time you drive the stage, nice arab wheelie tho
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>>26110248
ironically if he had stayed in the road i might've been able to split the gap
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>>26110281
I think they have a fixed hitbox so the guy running on the road can be run over
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>>26110238
how about u become a customer to the rope store pal
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>>26110303
no ty, go and make the gt1 series now
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>>26110297
They have, and they are bugged on Falstone II, where the locations seem to be fixed, but the trackjannie models are just sitting in the middle of the road. Just remember, the trackjannie penalty box is never on the road itself.
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>>26110316
>they are bugged on Falstone II
lol I thought that was on my end
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>>26110297
that would explain this
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>>26110319
It's just a weird bug with that stage alone for some unknown reason.
>>26110323
It's a bit like Sega Rally 2's spectators on the road, except you get trackjannied if you get in the penalty box.
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High speed ring is just fuji speedway pre tilkefication
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>>26110399
*reversed
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>>26109557
i was hoping i could be competitive with 900 degrees but i'm not quite there yet. dialed it back to 540, should place closer times at least
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>>26109557
How do I install this and participate?
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>>26110418
anon r5 cars have 540 degrees rotation irl and rbr wheel rotation is weird so running lower than irl degrees is the most 'realistic' setting, never run 900 in an r5
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>>26110429
download the installer from here and make a nick on the site, sign up on the google doc, setup the game and you're ready to go
https://www.rallysimfans.hu/rbr/download.php?download=rsfrbr
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>>26110442
Thanks, expect me to be fifteen minutes off pace on every rally I never figured how to get good at it.
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>>26110445
its not really a cutthroat competition so dont worry, just see it as a half hour weekend drive to keep the juices flowing
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>>26110431
oh i know, but i always run on 900, the idea being to rely less on being able to catch the car with steering and being more precise with the pedals, mostly for two reasons:
any irl car i'll ever rally will have a similar ratio, and if you can drive 900, you can drive with less, but the opposite isn't so true
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>>26110508
you do anon but wheel rotation and steering ratio is not the same thing, you're just hampering yourself with running 900 degrees
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>>26110570
my times would agree; my experience wouldn't.
>which is better?
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nfs
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Will we ever get a jokamiesluokka that isn't FlatOut or Wreckfest?
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>>26110849
jokamiesluokka game*
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>>26110849
Probably not. But the essential ruleset can already be done in any other game as a league so it's not a big deal. There were several Forza Motorsport leagues that were done with JM ruleset.
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this is exactly what Im talking about

>setup
>no gforce meter
literally useless

you expect people to drive around for hours and hours and somehow develop a sixth sense for gforce interpretation? LOL
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>>26111405
>>26108757
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any sim racer born after 2000 can’t race... all they know is SRP , spin out on touge, no hesi, download shit mods , have shit pace on GT3@spa & die
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>>26111429
gt3?

i only race lmp3 on 85% difficulty 7 laps against 10 opponents

I race my most aggressive-est in races and its fun trying to restrain myself from driving unsmoothly


its real fun to watch a reply back in camera 7 (tv camera mode)
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>https://youtu.be/zixbBjN0i4g
>wheelcuck
>drive like shit
>cant turn without spinning out
>cant drive in a straight line without spinning out

You guys want to see one of my recent races? (controller)
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>>26111470
every time i see clips of this retarded zoomer bait gamemode they're always going from spawn -> bayshore route and nowhere else. not even attempting C1 or anywhere remotely interesting. is it blocked off there or something?
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>>26111489
C1 is boring on traffic mode

its clogged with ai which makes racing unfun
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>>26111530
>C1 is boring
ftfy
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>>26111530
honestly SRP is better when taking the wangan instead of whatever server this guy is on>>26111470

far less clogged with ai but enough to make (less skilled players) crash
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>>26109557
yup
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honestly I'd rather do races and lmp3s look better than gt3s

and last quick race I got second best time

honestly Im too exausted to offer up footage that no one will watch all the way through so i'll just throw up a screenshot that shows i drove consistently for 7 laps to get 3 place even though asshole second placer made me spin out last lap and because I was able to distance myself from the rest of the pack i was able to secure 3rd place
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>>26111563
whomst inquired
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>>26111563
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Does anyone know if it's possible to setup key debouncing on RBR somehow? My shifter when in sequential mode sometimes registers two upshifts instead of one, it's starting to annoy me.
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>>26111712
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Would I still be in time to sign up for RBR?
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>>26111722
many thanks anon, I never even open the launcher
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>>26111724
everything you need to know is linked in the doc
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>>26111724
It's the shakedown round, first points round is next week.
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Which sim (or simcade) games have the most tracks and cars? Looking into Assetto Corsa, but the content seems really lacking compared to a Project Cars or Gran Turismo.
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>>26111892
Assetto Corsa by far because it is the most easily moddable out of all of them. There is just so much content (thousands of cars and hundreds of tracks) to download and play with.

If you just want something out of the box, yeah, PC2 and GT7 has it beat, but if you're playing on PC there is no reason not to pick AC. If you're playing on console, hahhaha, sucks to be you
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>EMI making all my USB ports go crazy and requiring a reset
>put a few more chokes on half the cables
>problem disappears with no real rhyme or reason
It's like magic. I need to buy a bunch more of these things.
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>>26110063
FlatOut first person camera mod + wheel feels fucking awesome
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>wheelbase force to 100% with in game force to 80%
>wheelbase force to 80% with in game force to 100%

Which one?
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>>26112191
75% on the wheel, 100% in game, 60% on the car
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>>26112191
which game?
i understand how iracing does this, but im not sure about other games
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>>26112203
Wouldn't you get more detail in some frequencies if your wheel is set to 100%? Let's say 10Nm instead of 8, since the peak is nigher?

>>26112212
Wondering in general, but let's say AC.
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>>26112274
FFB isn't real, do whatever the fuck you want
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>>26112283
I wish I could fight you irl.
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>>26112274
so, i don't know exactly how AC does this
but presumably its similar to how iracing does it

basically, the wheelbase doesn't know shit about the game
it only knows its asked to apply 0-100% force, left or right rotation
if you limit the wheelbase, it maps 100% to whatever you limit to
so when the game asks for X % it maps it linearly to X * (limit/100) %

on the game side, you don't know shit about the wheelbase
all you can say to the wheelbase is 0-100%, left or right
all that is left is to control what %s the game is allowed to send to the wheelbase

iracing does this in a fairly transparent manner
it has a dial that allows you to set max Nm
what this does is it controls how many Nm of steering wheel force *inside the simulator* will translate to 100% force asked from the wheelbase
so, any forces above that will get clipped and also end up as 100% force

forces under that threshold are mapped linearly (eg if you set a threshold at 50Nm, 25Nm gets translated as 50%)
it also has a setting for gear/belt driven/weak wheelbases that makes the mapping non-linear, making weaker forces stronger (so with the same 50Nm threshold, 10Nm would not be 20% but stronger)
this is recommended for wheelbases <10Nm, as otherwise you'd only be able to feel really high forces (crashes etc)

imo the best way to do this is to set the game to map the maximum force you're likely to encounter outside of crashes to 100%
and then limit the wheelbase so that sort of forces are not dangerous or too tiring

how this helps
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>>26112318
It helps but actually in that case, what's the difference between a 10Nm DD base and a 20Nm one? Some people say the 20Nm base would have more detail, but wont it actually just mean that base can output more than 10Nm of force if the game asks it to? Which would be almost never, since 10Nm is more than heavy enough. Unless you're in a car with no power steering or crash hard and the "realistic" output would be above 10Nm? Or am I dumb? Like what are these 20Nm and above motors for? What's even the point of the Simucube Ultimate, it has 32Nm of max torque, or even the Pro, that's 17Nm If you have to lower the total force regardless, since 17Nm alone is already more than enough.
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>>26112354
Detail has nothing to do with the strength of the motor. Only reason you might want super strong DD wheel is that it has the strength to spin the wheel fast enough if you're doing like rally or drifting where you want the wheel to rotate freely. For detail you look at the resolution.
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>>26112354
The higher spec motors are really just better for response. Higher peak torque GENERALLY translates to faster responsiveness. Think of it like this, if the motor is already spinning at max speed in one direction, a motor with higher torque output can stop and make it spin the other way faster. Of course, motors aren't all built the same way, and there are other factors at play like pole count and encoder resolution that all blur the lines, but generally speaking more torque means a better motor, even if you never go above 10Nm (and most people never will, breaking your arms in a crash isn't actually that fun).
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>>26112354
>It helps but actually in that case, what's the difference between a 10Nm DD base and a 20Nm one?
if you limit the 20Nm base to 50%, it will behave exactly the same as a 10Nm base, all else being equal
but usually, all else is NOT equal
eg the simucube 2 pro (25Nm) has a faster slew rate than the simucube 2 sport (12Nm)
which iirc is basically how fast it can change the forces its applying or something like that
so even limited, its not the same

anyway, from personal experience, i would say 20Nm max is just fine
with correct settings, those sorts of forces will only be applied momentarily (crashes, hitting a curb hard at full speed, steering when standing still, etc)
during most driving, its fairly light

as to the level of detail, higher force wheelbases do allow for better FFB
if your maximum force is only 8Nm at the wheelbase, most of the time during normal driving you will produce only very minimal forces at the wheel
that non-linear mapping setting i mentioned is precisely intended for this problem
but its better to have a strong enough wheelbase to avoid having to use it
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>>26112375
>>26112377
>>26112379
Ok so based on this intelligence I've now decided not to follow what that one youtuber says and go back to my old settings.
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>>26112354
samefag as >>26112379
i made a visual aid for you
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>>26112285
being angry won't make ffb real
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>>26112408
Yeah I'm using FFBClip in AC, which is basically exactly this. Was wondering if I should set the total force for my DD in it's app to 100%, but it literally doesn't matter, since you set the per car FFB separately anyways, and it will always adjust to your max torque Nm. Just gotta set each car's force high enough so it's not clipping. I think.
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>>26112435
>Just gotta set each car's force high enough so it's not clipping. I think.
correct
you want the max force to be enough to encompass anything that can happen during normal driving, so no clipping
its fine (desirable even) to clip during crashes

and then you want to limit your wheelbase to the point where those max forces are ok for you

also, i forgot to mention this before, most games, incl iracing, will also allow you to limit the max % it will ask
its basically the same as limiting your wheelbase, but from the game
(so eg the game will first map the simulation forces per the clip limit, but then instead of translating max force to 100% it will be 80% or whatever)
imo you shouldn't do this at all, just limit at the wheelbase
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lets FUCKING GO
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>>26112452
how can a car this kino looking be so boring to drive in ac
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>>26112443
>its fine (desirable even) to clip during crashes

Yeah actually and the way I set the max force before clipping is by doing laps and pushing the car as hard as I can without crashing. If I can't handle the force, I scale it down. I think that should give the correct force per car I want to use. I think my confusion came from thinking that lowering the total force in the wheelbase software is the same as lowering it's max torque, but if you think about it torque isn't force, so it's not like I'm making a 10Nm rated motor into an 8Nm one, so that was the wrong approach all along.
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>>26112455
you have to rev the piss out of it
stock setup is a little stiff in corners too
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How do I get over my irrational disgust of western made cars? Whenever I sit inside a virtual Audi or BMW I feel an immense sense of pure disgust overtake me and all I want to do is get into some shitty old Toyota or a Honda to wash away the stink.
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>>26112486
just drive a bimmer after a shitty old toyota or honda irl
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How is Forza Horizon 5 compared to 4? Worth getting? It's on sale for $40USD on steam
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>>26112486
german cars are rental shit leasebait with plastic water pump impellers made for tapwater salesmen to drive for exactly 45,000 km then farfegnugen gmbh throws it away and buys him another. they literally have been hideous, overhyped, middle manager shitboxes for going on 25 years now.

american, britbong, and japanese cars have soul, even the shitty ones, because they were made with real people in mind, not a corporation's tax write-off.
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>>26112486
I'm not experienced on the topic but if you stop sucking cocks and start brushing your teeth your taste should improve.
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>>26112473
How do I set it up then
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>>26112486
leave this site and stop being a contrarian for internet points
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>>26112511
gratz, best murder i've seen for a long time
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>>26112598
a lil more front toe out
diff accel 75

ez
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I found a youtube channel called Austin Ogonoski,dude hates GT so much it's almost comedic.He does seem to be a good sim driver tho
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https://youtu.be/wXXJqSyz8Hw

Im totally fine driving just le man prototypes instead of ugly gt3 cars

lmp3's are like 2 seconds faster than gt3s while at the same time being smaller and doesnt have as much horsepower and looking better
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>>26112598
just drop the ride height its the ac esports cheese setup
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ovgtopen bread on hood edition when
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NFS Unbound leaked gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcA96bH1ETo&t=64s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sodONBVFgio&t=108s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcA96bH1ETo&t=106s
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>>26112732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDEVy4bnxvk&t=30s
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>>26112732
>>26112736
thats nice but ill keep playing UG1 thanks
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>>26112646
t. Austin Ogonoski
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>>26112508
Engine sounds are much better
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>>26112620
I'm Norville though.
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Why doesn't someone just make an open world racing game with a story and races and quests and shit, but it's a sim.
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>>26112760
Nah,he looks likw every other school shooter
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>>26112875
literally who
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>>26112881
The guy in constant war with the redgov.
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>>26112885
the what
you sound autistic
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>>26110405
>>26110399
fun fact: Fuji was originally intended to be run in the reverse direction, but because they ran out of money during construction they couldn't build what was supposed to be the turn 1 banking, instead leaving a weird off-camber downhill left that caused several accidents before they decided to run it the other way. Then the problem became that the banking of the new turn 1 was now backwards and instead of cars entering a smooth incline they practically dropped into the curve, which was only slightly less dangerous than not being able to see the apex at all.
High Speed Ring isn't just pre-Tilke Fuji, it's what Fuji would have been if they'd built it right the first time.
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>>26112732
>>26112736
American culture is centered around _______
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>>26112879
yawn

i prefer being able to race from content manager and roleplaying like its an underground racing social media app
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>>26112925
and you sound reddit
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How badly will I regret buying Fart Whore 5
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>>26113018
american what?
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>>26113031
no one else does this? take a lesson in thinking creatively, it'll make your life more interesting
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>>26113066
this, if you haven't made your own career mode with two excel spreadsheets and a shitton of rfactor mods you should stop playing sims altogether
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>>26113038
sorry i'm not familiar with the dialect you're speaking can you type a little slower?
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>>26113076
just go back I'm sure reddit has better accessibility options for retards like you
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>>26113031
This is only cool if you hop on a flight sim to roleplay out the plane journeys to each new track in real time.
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>>26113018
mass ritual disrespect for authority
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>>26113090
why are you worshipping zogbots then
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>>26113082
I don't use websites for children because I am not a pedophile
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>>26113096
they keep the carbonated, partially hydrogenated, brominated peanut oil and red 40 dyed corn syrup flowing
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>>26113119
if only
i cant find any peanut oil to buy!
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whats the no hesi server about?
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anons....
https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-on-pc-could-happen/
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>>26113217
i wont buy it

i already have assetto corsa

whats the point in buying this when it doesnt have a good gforce meter by default?
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>>26112685
I forgot to mention LMP3 cars are naturally aspirated
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assetto corsa is all you want in an asphalt racing game

I am genuinely considering richard burns rally so i can get the dirt road high speed racing
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>>26113235
theres no traction circle in rbr civicgod
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>>26113235
ugh can the csp guys stop working on rain and instead import rally physics into assetto corsa so I dont have to bother installing rbr?
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>https://youtu.be/rddH8sxegoU [Open]
its a shame he didnt include a gforce meter so we can see how he manipulates the weight shifts of the car to get it around corners

honestly the only fun way to touge is rwd/awd fast rally car and tons of weight shifting forward to induce oversteer

(weight shift backwards while turning induces understeer)

Actually while typing this I have discovered I could induce a little slip angle by instead applying a little brake in turns in the LMP3 instead of understeering it adding a tiny bit of throddle (i balance the weight on the lateral gforce axis while in high lateral gforce turns)
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>>26113289
hope you get this round of terrible shitposting out of your system soon and leave civicgod, here's a you for your effort
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honestly fwd "racecars" makes me sick
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>>26113292
when gforce is visualized its actually moderately easy to get the tires back into traction after losing it
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>>26113307
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>>26113335
naturally I think the issue with just lifting off throttle to turn is that due to increased tire friction would cause you to decelerate at higher tenths of gravity than balancing it via throttle
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>>26113339
or perhaps leave the 1g circle since it is at its weakest at the diagonal
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I cant literally be bothered to go 5mph around hairpins

im going to oversteer
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>>26112925
Lurk more newfaggot.
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>>26113217
FASTER FUCKING FASTER RELEASE IT ALREADY I WANT IT AND I WANT VR SUPPORT
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>>26113403
dumb wheelshitter why are you so excited to spin out while driving in a straight line? lol
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trust me, you're not impressing anyone by doing a donut after spinning out

you're embarassing yourselves wheelshitters
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>>26113430
infact, wheelshitters, you should feel more embarassed for spinning out like a tard

atleast controllers have an excuse, they have to climb a steep learning curve
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honestly SRP is a good server to learn to drive actually
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https://youtu.be/BG1ekxi-Rmo
honestly though racing on the street and weaving through traffic is so boring and cheap


typically people who race on the public roads through traffic are afraid of actual circuits and are most likely to spin out the second their tires touch the surface of the track

they favour public roads because of natural speed limiters (traffic) to "even" the odds
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>>26113419
>>26113430
>>26113517
retard

>>26113395
election tourist
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>>26113563
retarded newfaggot
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>>26113563
shit brand that doesnt race in leman's or nordschleife endurance races
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Why do you keep making these threads
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>>26113579
I was gonna call you a faggot, but you're right and these threads are pointless, because there's an inner (reddit) circle on the MM. They barely post in here, and don't accept any new people that might come from the threads, yet they still make them.
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>>26113563
are you a negroid?
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>>26113608
Kita is a fatherless black child. You didn't know that?
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>>26113615
yuck no wonder theres so much burnout, muscleshitter, 0iq drifter spam
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>>26113623
He also grew up in Australia before moving to the US. The more you know.
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>>26113628
his father was a serb war criminal though
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>>26113637
No that's his step father, after his biological dad left.
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>>26113576
go back to gaia

>>26113577
what is this then retard

>>26113608
no

>>26113615
projecting

>>26113623
gay

>>26113628
is this supposed to be insulting?

>>26113637
>>26113640
another two for the cringe compilation
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>>26113647
that looks nothing like the extra wide and extra heavy dodge challenger hellcat doe

dodge had to use a more european design for the viper because they cant design for shit LOL
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>>26113647
lmao how a can a lower-class gt car be the most significant race car of anything, that's like saying the audi r8 gt3 is the most significant race car of germany in the last 20 years
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>>26113647
go back to australia
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>>26113602
why do you care so much, this place died years ago, the faggov is just a bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the rotten corpse of this place
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>>26113602
>yet they still make them
hey im to blame for that too
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guys im doing lift off oversteer drifts in the toyota celica @ pikes peak
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>>26113657
you said brand not make
cope
>>26113662
seethe
>>26113663
sit on a landmine
>>26113669
fag
>>26113684
retard
>>26113797
based
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>>26113802
chill out kiter im not against you
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just got first place somehow (driving smoothly) in a 85% difficulty, 15 lap, 15 opponent, quick race at brands hatch in a Praga R1, LMP3 car

watching the replay now

I enjoy watching in camera 7 (anyone else?)


So many times during this race I blanked out and lost cognition only a moment later to regain it like mid turn.
My brainfog is making it hard to comprehend what Im doing

posting details later since I know no one wants to watch the footage, but thats okay. Its only because I enjoy watching my footage so much that I feel I must share but I guess its only really interesting watching yourself post-race. I wonder if racers like watching themselves drive, I know jimmy broadbent does and infact a lot of racers watch replays of race footage in iRacing
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>>26113802
you know im right

a cruise ship handles better than a dodge challenger
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Niels Heusinkveld jumpscare
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/32873-G25,-Does-the-wheel-work-stand-alone-without-the-pedals---shifter-attached%3F
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>>26107403
The 333 is just a 641 with more weight and less downforce
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>>26108554
It’s a sporty Beetle from the 1960s with 470bhp and 80s-style turbo lag.
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>>26113875
i was like 15/16 in the first couple laps and first in lap 13
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>>26112971
Well, Fuji was supposed to be a giant trioval like Daytona.
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wtf is this shit
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>>26113996
oh no no no no wheelshitters... NOT LIKE THIS

ITS OVER

controller chads win again
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>>26113996
Probably to prevent himself from biting his nails, nail polish tastes bad.
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>>26113996
he has been doing that for literal years how have you not picked that up
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>>26114055
no he hasnt

his hands looks like he shaves and lotions them like a girl
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>>26114066
use lotion you ashy fucking cunt
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>>26114088
no
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>>26114090
smokey aint prepared fo yo dry ass to be near leaves
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>>26114088
Nigger
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>>26114121
dry cunt
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Story cutscene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaoYM99nvw4
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>>26114344
not feeling it
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https://youtu.be/_HHuWoBnqUY

does anyone else notice that he isnt taking much of a racing line and drives like someone who doesnt have a gforce meter?
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>>26114654
that video was a demo

this one is even more evident isnt experienced in the sixth sense of interpreting gforce (no gforce meter also duh)
https://youtu.be/VhVKLljUdGA
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>>26114666
https://youtu.be/64md2PTOdDo


third person dudes.... just like an assetto corsa replay....

still needs a gforce meter doe
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>try the new escudo pikes peak willow springs time trial
>car does a 360 if you you breathe on the brake
CONTROLLER CHADS RISE UP
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>>26114804
you're braking and turning like a retard so you deserve to spin out

install a gforce meter retard shitter
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>>26114804
no steering wheel and pedals will save you if you decide to brake hard while turning like a fucking retard
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>>26114811
>>26114810
why is retard the go-to insult on this site
retards man i swear
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'toko and breakcore time

video: https://youtu.be/za0OZQQ1Iaw
Play ▶

car: lmaoborghini
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oh no wheelshitters

a controller chad can drive consistently enough for 15 laps and end up in first place?!

WOAH

it seems like you can play sims with a controller no problem and wheel and pedals are only placebo
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>>26114849
>>26113875
>>26113962
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>racing against AC AI
at least try with these shit quality baits. Not even (you) worthy
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>>26114849
skinpack I use:
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/praga-r1-team-skin-pack-fictional.46711/
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>>26114853
mald

you wheelshitters cant drive in a straight line without spinning out LMAO
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how would you know, you don't even race against people
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>>26114859
cope and mald wheelshitter

FFB doesnt inform you about gforce

continue spinning out on every hard turn LOL
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wheelshitters be like
>turn wheel to max degree every hard turn
>accelerate and spin out like a retard
>piss your pants when you see a controllerchad drives better than you
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>HECK YEAH DUDE I LOVE WRENCHING THE STEERING WHEEL LIKE A MONKEY WRENCH
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>>26114878
that image is literally so hilarious
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>>26114849
>Best lap
>1.36:722
I've never driven the Praga and I did this on my 2nd ever flying lap. I feel trolled that I even tried cause you're embarrassingly slow.
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>>26114888
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>>26114888
Im average not slow

content manager says so
>85% difficulty

mald some more wheelshitter
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>>26114891
>Racing 85% AI
That's like winning in the special Olympics.
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>>26114896
careful, you're going to go bald from seething so much LOL
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>>26114811
how can you expect me to drive well when i have severe clinical depression, OCD, ADD and ADHD? hm?
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>>26114918
answer me
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M'boys, please actually put what manufacturer you want to race on the google doc. It's so I can make sure there's enough of each on the server.

So far 2 out of 11 signups want skins (and booking mode). That's not enough to warrant the bother of skinpacks etc, if that number becomes significant (ie. 50%) we'll bother. To submit a skin, follow R3guys lead and add a link to your skin on the doc on your car selection.
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>>26113224
You can watch mechanics stretch a car, beat that iRacing
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>>26114962
ew yuck

why would i want to race with any of you assholes when AI is so much nicer, consistant, and can be adjusted to my skill level (85%; medium difficulty, median number between 70% and 100%)
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>>26114804
Gt7 opened my eyes on how twitchy the Escudo is,fucking death box
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>>26115005
>my skill level (85%
you're a fucking shit cunt
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>>26115010
mald

it only took a couple days of traction circle to become consistent. Estimates are that I'll just keep rapidly getting faster

fear my potential wheelshitter

you may be hardstuck but Im not
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>>26115052
ok maybe dont post till then thanks bye retard
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>>26115056
shit yourself harder

your days are numbered
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>>26115052
>traction circle
now try driving without it
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>>26115059
ok give me the number of days it takes you to improve significantly
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>>26114918
visual g-force meter
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>>26115060
never

the gforce meter is my third eye
interpreting gforce is a necessity and it is impossible to do without one
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>>26115065
https://youtu.be/JUVkVB3SUf4
look at how artyon senna struggles with the NSX

reaffirms my point that he can barely even interpret gforce and what he has learned through experience (the hard way) is barely capable of enabling him to drive the car smoothly around the track

I will never play gran turismo unless they have a g-force meter. I will never play iRacing unless there is a g-force meter

The g-force meter is like to me an external organ that relays g-force information back to my central nervous system to which I can near instantly re-adjust the car as if it were a second skin. With the G-Force meter, me and the car become one, one body, governed by one mind, in unison, like a mechanical beast.
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you're trying way too hard
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>>26115079
you're crying way too hard
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>>26115084
The only difference between me (a control chad) and a wheelshitter is that I am hooked into my central nervous system via my hands and my eyes. Acceleration, deceleration, turning, and G-Force readings.
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>>26115087
a wheelshitters setup is ultimately inefficient

>h-shifter
>take 5 seconds reach over accidentally put the car in first gear and blow up the engine

for me Its just a press of a button, miliseconds compared to seconds.

>pedals
>inefficient and clumsy

all the buttons I need are on my controller
>blinkers
dont need it
>windshield wipers
dont need it plus its patreon only
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I guess r/simracing doesn't have enough actual talk about sim racing with all the rig posting that they must come here
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>>26115093
forgot to mention, a crucial bit:
>steering

A slight nudge of the joystick
rarely ever do I need more to get around a track

>wheelshitter
wrenching it about like a chimp
also
>FFB
LOL just LOL

forcefeedback is the wheelshits cope. It doesnt properly any G-Force information all it does it makes it harder to steer because they think its realistic, when realistically G-Force is the most important piece of information thats not accessible to cope cages wheelshitters with their vr headsets build for themselves
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>i can't afford a wheel setup: the cope
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>>26115101
controllers are better

you're coping lol
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>>26115104
>6s slower than a first timer
>85% AI
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>>26115177
you're more retarded than him that's for sure
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>>26115183
>no argument
W acquired, bye retard
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>>26115186
hes been doing this for a year now if you still take the worst baits this general has ever seen its on you
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>>26115188
it's much more fun watch him run in circles try to come up with new things.
It's like being in school and the class for retards come out for lunch and you get to see all kinds of stupid shit.
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>>26115204
that's true, I wonder what motivates it to spend countless hours coming up with eh shitposts daily for a week only to disappear for months after
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>>26113018
BBC
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>>26113996
Nail polish on men is disgusting. I like Jimmer and his content, but I would never shake the hand of a man who paints his nails. Some civilizational standard and decency must be retained.
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>>26115288
>I like Jimmer and his content,
once he started doing the gimmicky zoomer shit to boost his numbers his channel became unwatchable, he was best at just driving a random car on a random track in a random race while talking like a soccer mom on his sons practice
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eh? eh?
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>>26108738
fuck off g*rafag holonigger
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>>26115328
you cant look at a cup of water and interpret that you are experience 1g let alone incremental values beyond that let alone know which direction the weight of your car is shifted. Whether the weight of the car is going rear diagonally or frontward diagonally let alone be able to see fine instantaneous measurements let alone:
>look downward right towards cupholder to look at water cup

a phone shaped display hooked up to a car telemtry arduino and powered by the car's electrical outlet would be a far better solution to a watercup plus you can suction cup the phone shaped display to the windshield where it is easily in sight and all you have to do is glance for a milisecond
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>>26115396
>>26115396

new thread
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>>26113802
sit on a dentist's chair
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>YOU NEED TO GET A WHEEL TO GIT GUD
>NOOOO YOU DON'T NEED A WHEEL
Don't you get a wheel simply because it is more fun?
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>>26114888
Based diggity.



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