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ccg/ "Classic car general"

"Japcrap" edition

>For Classics made from '88 or older, although exceptions are made for cars with a body style that started after '88
>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.
>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.
>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.
>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.
>Period correct performance > cosmetics.
>Metal > plastic.
>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.
>JBweld and RTV can fix anything
>If you see rust there is more.
>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.
>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.
>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.
>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.
>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.
>No one cares about your MPG
>No one cares about your fake ptsd either
>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded
>Nothing is as easy as it seems
>Don't use your car as a bathroom
>Post car or gtfo

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tell me why fish can't fly without lying
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>>26086027
they can't fly because they don't have TWO GENERAL ELECTRIC T700-GE-701 TURBOSHAFT ENGINES RATED AT 1,560 SHAFT HORSEPOWER EACH
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>>26086036
i have been educated
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>>26086027
Because air is not dense enough to propel them nor support their weight
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>>26086053
I do not beleive you
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>>26086022
wow one of you brainiac fucktards finally made a thread halfway correct

i see your hideously painted red calipers, and i raise you a glass

something far far more cursed
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>>26086263
real
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>>26086053
Checkmate.
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ummmm
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Folks, my 1983 Volvo 240 can either have the timing set for a stable idle and pinging at partial throttle, or stoch running but crappy idle. Moving the vacuum advance from the carb to the intake helps, but pushes the idle to 1100rpm. This is a 175cd2se with a separate idle circuit. No vacuum leaks.

Any ideas how to fix idle speed and/or the timing curve?
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>>26087026
timing curve and fuel jetting is designed around what vacuum source it will be hooked up to, leave it as designed

i actually couldnt find a vacuum diagram, looks like people only care about the turbo/FI models

there are other places that will be hard to check for vacuum leaks, EGR diaphragm, internally in the carburetor, etc. i would start there unless you already have aftermarket parts involved ie distributor, carb, etc. These reman/"new" parts are often sold as generic 1 size fits all and there's no telling what they are set up for.
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>>26087026
https://ozvolvo.org/discussion/4734/245-l-su-carb
https://www.volvo-forums.com/threads/1986-volvo-240-vacuum-line-locations.101137/#lg=thread-101137&slide=3

it looks like ported vacuum is factory for carbed volvos, start there and cap everything else off, even brake booster

set base timing for the spec which you should know by now from messing with it and that should narrow down your issue

I wouldnt rule out an issue with the OE distributor, but im almost sure if your issue persists, its within the carburetor

I was a very angry burnout from messing with holley 1946's until i realized there were some passages i wasnt getting clean, and suddenly i had 3 working carburetors, i was messing with timing a lot and questioning the factory distributors just like this.
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>>26087105
Thanks m8, much appreciated. Tried disconnecting everything drawing vacuum. EGR and pulsair are blanked off and gone. All remaining vacuum lines are new and tested (PCV, dizzy, brake booster), new intake manifold gasket too. Running a healthy 17inHg at low idle, so post-carb vac leaks are excluded.

Gave the carb a rebuild, but it's probably fucked and leaking. Drinks damper oil like a sailor after the last owner ran it ultra-lean and without any oil for over thirty years. Will take your advice on the problem likely stemming from the carb.
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VIN check by the police came back clean, paperwork is in the mail. Looks like I have a Ducati now, guys.
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>>26087263
Congrats and you need to take Lisa for a ride.
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>>26087252
how did the previous owner end up running it lean?
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>>26087328
The certain things were
*Rusted-through EGR pipe and stuck open valve
*Extra air entering the system through the carb dashpot. In late Strombergs, the needle adjustment screw IS the bottom of the dashpot, and is supposed to be sealed by a #10 o-ring. Unless there's a perfect seal, first oil, and then air will leak into the carb.

Someone had also set the ignition timing wrong, and there were major exhaust leaks into the carb from the pulsair system.
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>>26087356
i see, EGR and brake booster leaking is something ive experienced, my ford had valve cover gaskets so bad that ended up being a vacuum leak too

never touched a stromberg so i was hesitant to give advice on screwing with it, but doesnt seem you could hurt after the previous owner

can try pulling the plugs and putting straight atf or even seafoam in the cylinders but chances are it got hot and the ring tension is never coming back even if you get them unstuck, some lucas in the oil will get you by though

how do you like it? a vintage Volvo was high on my list for first project car
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>>26087368
So you don’t know what you’re talking about. So shut the fuck up then, fat retard nigger
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>>26087368
The redblock Volvos are lovely cars, solid and overbuilt. Light in the rear and surprisingly torquey if the engine isn't bogged down by failed malaise-era environmental features. The most common problems are EGR leaks, pulsair leaks, and PCV clogging. The PI engines are easier to live with, but lose the charm of the carburetted ones. They're great as project cars, with cheap and generic parts.

Since the car runs extremely well, I'll look into carb issues some more. Might just pick up a set of DCOE's if that fails.
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>>26087445
yeah when i googled carbureted volvo i just got the aftermarket single plane with the webber, surprisingly covered up info for how many carb rebuild kits were clogging my search

are there any hard improvements to the later B230F or is it just fuel injection

plenty of those engines in the scrapyards here, but back when i was buying my first project, swapped cars were cheaper than stock and i probably should have bought some inbreds incomplete/shitty sbc swap, these make fun cars with more power
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>>26087263
Not a classic
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>>26086022
No matter how many times you try to change the greentext it won't change the fact that your car is not a classic and you're a stupid fucking loser.
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>>26087514
>are there any hard improvements to the later B230F or is it just fuel injection
Apparently a slightly weaker design, but fuel injection is the main thing.
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I mix dexcool with green coolant and don't give a FUCK
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>>26087551
i found an adapter for a ford T5 online, but ive never seen a whiteblock swapped 2 series

850R engine would be absolutely sick in one of these, where are all the whiteblock swaps hiding out?
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>>26086022
>No one cares about your fake ptsd either
>Don't use your car as a bathroom
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>>26087273
Who's Lisa?
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>>26087625
YER TEARIN ME APAHT LISA
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>>26087606
morning piss in the f250
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>>26087722
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>>26087742
>bathroom
PISS
PISS OUT MY ASS
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>>26087742
b-b-b-b-b-but thread anon said we cant piss in our cars
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>>26087785
thread anon?
where we're pissing we don't need thread anon
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>>26086022
did you read >>26087868?

we're going to piss in our cars, and you can't do anything about it
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I've literally never been in a situation where I had to piss inside of a car, wtf is wrong with you people.
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>>26087868
I want to set that movie on fire.
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>>26087903
you touch your 6.9 brakes yet?

there are these o-rings to seal up the caliper halves that dont seem to come in the rebuild kit
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>>26087905
Nope. Been busy filing to become a legit salvage yard/restoration shop.
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>>26087903
same
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>>26087923
I cannot get over the weird jewish incest angle and how the DeLorean has less than 3 minutes of screen time.
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Anyone ever try to make a modern tier track car out of an old classic car
Like modern performance engineering and fabrication applied to an old chassis.
Where can I see stuff like this
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>>26088256
Boomer tier restomods. It's funny the kind of people who spend ludicrous amounts of money on that kind of stuff are the ones least likely to ever use it. The kind of enthusiast who would take a classic car on a track would typically modify whatever is all ready there so, coilovers, sway bars, aftermarket control arms for better geometry. Maybe rack and pinion if they're feeling bold
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>>26088278
I thought restomods were stuff like Bluetooth and LED and a modern interior /engine but not necessarily performance. I mean like a modern roll cage and suspension work. Carbon fiber panels and modern aero.
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>>26088279
All the things you listed are mods so why wouldn't they apply
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>>26086022
If Nissan had just made the new z look exactly like a 280zx they would have my money, especially if they made it a 2+2
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>>26088256
Classic Chassis are often too bendy for the loads generated by modern tires and suspension without lots of other bracing/ strengthening mods in which case you've just ruined a perfectly usable Classic with Forza Horizon-tier swaps to get a body shape you like up to a certain PI.
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>>26088279
Don’t forget the El Ess swap.
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I've researched the shit out of both of these but always curious what others have to say. Which would you buy for 10k?
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>>26086022
Hey guys, my uncle has a gmc like picrel but yellow. I want to put a new engine and transmission for him since it doesn’t run. What do you guys recommend to put inside. I‘m not a mechanic and car knowledge is very basic, I only ever visit /a/ so it’s my first in /o/ too.
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>>26088558
The Mercedes. It will be more expensive for parts, but won’t probably need much as they are very well built and engineered. Are you planning to make it your daily?
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>>26088598
>Are you planning to make it your daily?
Nah. Strictly a weekend car/fair weather cruiser. Maybe an emergency daily if my shitbox shits itself
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>>26088593
Chevrolet LS1. It'll only take about $500 and an afternoon.

Seriously though the real trick would be in determining what drivetrain characteristics he values and replicating those. It's not impossible that he wants the feel of a 6/three-on-the-tree again.
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>>26088593
Probably far outside your skillset but that's a simple era of vehicle. Easiest thing would be to just replace the engine and trans with identical ones, or ones that bolt it
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>>26088593
Can’t beat a small block for value. It will also bolt up to the existing transmission, or you could swap in a TH200, 700 R4, or T5 easily and have overdrive and get a few more miles per gallon. What does it have for a motor and trans now?
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>>26088603
Is that a true Cobra? I just noticed the marker on the fender. If it is, then that changes things a bit from the run of the mill Mustang. They are pretty sought after and will always be in demand.
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>>26088613
Yeah, specifically the 96-98 blob cobras with the 4v modular
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>>26088609
>>26088608
>>26088605
well me and my cousin(his son) just want it to run something that reach highway speeds. Make it ride a comfortable 75 mph without blowing a gasket.
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>>26088624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_G6MIdxeKU
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>>26088624
You'll definitely want at least overdrive then

Can throw together a 350 made out of anything with a 700r and call it a day
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>>26088655
thank you anon I hope your car lives a long life
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>>26088558
>>26088558
Cobra. Easy to work on(except head gaskets) and parts will be much cheaper than the Merc.
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>>26088882
>>26088598
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Im not super happy with the 01 buick as a daily, i was looking into a catera or e36 but the 500SEL has really opened my eyes. Im setting my sights on a C230/C280 W202. Already laid hands on one at the scrapyard and i like the build and quality. Looks like 97-98 is the target years for MAF, quirks being ironed out, and having the I6.

calipers that come off my car arent moving even with the compressor maxed out. 300D ones need a rebuild kit bad but can probably toss em back together for a short stint, they werent leaking yet
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>>26088279
Restomods are really any classic that has been modernized to some extent. My firebird despite being mostly factory reproduction parts can be considered a resto mod since I have the 5.3 under the hood. It's only boomers with seemingly infinite money who have the money to spend ripping out any semblance of originality and effectively take the body off the the classic and slap it on a modern car frame
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>>26088593
A Vortec 6.0 or 5.3 would make an easy first swap. I did mine when I still hardly knew what I was doing
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>>26089025
no one ever seems to do restomods right

there are like 3 people who daily something they LS swapped or put a holley sniper on

Roadkill's ramp truck got a cummins and then turned way the hell up and then they got rid of it, Finnegan has kept all his haulers almost entirely stock since, and thats with pockets deep enough to put a new aluminum block in blasphemi 3 times a year

its tantelizing to get a 2G hewew snoipah and an adapter for the S10 for tune and tinker, but it just works right now
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>>26088598
>>26088900
As long as the main timing chain guides are replaced with the updated guides from mid-2001 onward, the Cobra's 4.6 will be a 250k+ mile motor, as I know the Mercs are good for at least that. Either car would be a great choice, Thunderchickenanon just needs to decide if he wants manual or auto.
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>>26086022
>op
There's an 83 280zx near me being sold. How bad of an idea would it be to buy it as a dd? I just assume all these Japanese cars are built well, especially the old ones.
I keep being told to not go older than 10 years, but I hate anything 2010 and up.
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>>26089100
>boomer restomods
>led halo lights
>bolt on efi carberator
>big dumbass nigger chip foose wheels
>interior swaps from late models
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>>26088256
schwartzperformance
Their chassis are like $12K . i think 1 of the vids shows them jacking up an impala from the center side rail and it lifting both those side tires like a nascar
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>>26089100
I like to think I did a restromod right.
>kept old motor
>kept carbs
>slapped an electric fan so my viscous coupling doesn't grenade my fan into the hood
>electric fuel pump because diaphragms like to go
>I would maybe move away from lucas opus but the car already had electronic ignition
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>>26089025
God damn you’re retatrded
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>>26089256
I don't think anyone would consider that a restomod
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>>26089286
Idk always thought making a restromod was "make the car slightly more livable than it originally was but don't take away the charm of a classic"
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>>26089292
No. You’re a retard and a faggot. Literally google it for 2 seconds
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>>26089292
restomod is a combination of restore and modify
you've just sortof modified it
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>>26089106
Auto vs manual
Actual build quality vs lol
More expensive to maintain vs built like ass
Soft/open/hard top vs coupe
I want to die because every time I end up having to decide between two things I just start farting
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>>26089256
restomod is when you gut an old car and drop an LS in, put power steering in and remove the chrome bits
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>>26089173
bro i nearly guarantee deboss is never driving the F350 hes doing so much work to

>>26089256
the lightest thing i would consider a restomod is like swapping a chevy truck to a carb'd vortec 350 motor and factory disks

i dont think electric fuel pump and fan qualifies, its drivetrain replacement at minimum
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>>26089418
And arguably the less you do the better the product is.

No one wants to drive a stiff ass tri5 with $4500 brakes on it you have to custom order, loud ass engine and 3500 stall, with 800 different companies liable for random little parts

I seriously think RCR would have been happier with a 82-83 rebuilt 200ci, C5, and Granada disk brakes on the vagabond falcon, but he's legitimately retarded so.
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I think I’m well into restofag territory now
>efi, msd box, supercharger and electric fans
>front and rear disk brakes swapped to c5 and Cadillac el dorado
>master and booster upgraded as well, summit prop valve
>nigger wheels
>nigger’d fender flares
>c5 spindles, urethane suspension bushings and mounts, moroso springs, summit shocks
Idk if it’s a straight restomod though
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>>26089163
I hear a lot of the 70s Nissans rusted a bunch so depending on where you live bear that in mind
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>>26089525
you OK to me. restomod to me doesn't need to be 100k frameoff with LS swap, coilovers, and wilwoods on each corner but the engine, suspension and brakes should be addressed.
if the grease in your bushings bearings or diff is decades old you might not have a restomod
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>>26089321
>I want to die because every time I end up having to decide between two things I just start farting
Consider shidding instead. That might be where your problem lies.
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>>26089173
Interior swaps was a 90s/very early 2000s boomer trend, but the rest still stands.
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>>26089645
gargle the retarded beaner's nuts more, fag
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>>26090116
thank god that stopped this mustang interior was like the goto no matter what make/model
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>>26090112
Nah man I've been doing this since I was like 5 and my gram would let me go pick a single toy at the store. I'd just stand in the aisle debating and farting until I picked something
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>>26089418
There's literally a video of it driving on youtube you stupid fat faggot. Don't project your stupidity and uselessness onto other people.
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>>26089525
Fuck if anything that’s a straight up hot rod
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>>26090136
im not an interior guy but god, fuck literally every sn95 interior swap
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>>26090291
is pushing it really the standard for ford bros?

sad
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>>26090406
Oh is this where you ignore what I actually said and autistically repeat what you want to be reality? Jesus you're so pathetic. Misquoting people does not make you an epic troll you disgusting fat faggot.
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>>26083861
I took a shit consisting of digested butterfly pupae.
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>>26090545
i bet you wish you could push your F250 that sometimes starts, deboss will always have that over you, you estrogen saturated twink
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>>26090907
>Please give me attention I have no friends and this is the only human interaction I have in my life!
Here's a (you) for a pathetic faggot
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Does anyone have any experience with an MG Midget?
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>>26088624
I daily drove a 70 GMC with a 250 six and 3 on the tree. Low gears and drove at 75 mph on many 800 mile road trips. Never had a problem with it except for brake fade a few times. (Manual drums). Had low gears as it would do 87 mph on a flat road, no matter how long it was. The only real problem was the head with non hardened seats and I had an exhaust valve beat the seat in. I’ve got a 69 C10 now with a mild 350 and automatic. Power drums and it does ok on the highway. Would like to do a disc swap and a 200 or 700 swap though and put a front sway bar in.
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>>26091268
Try asking on /lgbt/ since that’s a faggot hair dresser car
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>>26091292
shut the fuck up, zippertits
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>>26091322
Speaking of faggot hair dressers, why don’t u google how to shut me up maybe someone will soon feed you information there since you’re too stupid to figure anything out on your own
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>>26091292
that is a nice car
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>>26091268
Parents had a midget. The four speed stuck in a gear, fixed it at dealer. Did it again, fixed it at dealer and promptly put an ad in the paper.
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>>26091425
>parents had a midget
Yea, you! LMFAO fucking manlet get rekt
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>>26091459
like my nuts, FAGGOT
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>>26091459
Midget is slightly smaller than a B you fucking retard.
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>>26091268
Always been fun drives. Single carb on a burger motor is easy but
>1500 in a midget.
Always thought it seemed a bit cramped
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FUCK NIGGERFAGGOTS NAMED ALPHONSE
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>>26093145
amen
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>>26091268
I have a 1970 MGB, which should be close enough. They're easy to work on, but contain some retarded British engineering. The Midget is a very slow car, but has that 60's charm.
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>>26088593
Have a mechanic look at the thing. It may not need a new engine and drivetrain. I might just be so. Check out the simple things first.
The easiest thing to do is just replace what's already there.
There's lots of space in the engine bay of those trucks. Just about any chevy engine will fit without major fabrication.
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>>26093671
>have a mechanic
Kys wrenchlet
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>>26093675
How am I supposed to not be a wrenchlet if you shame me for even trying to buy a car at all
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>>26093757
Just buy it go to harbor freight get some crescent wrenches and channel locks and go to town
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>>26093764
But taking it to a mechanic might mean I can send in a lower offer
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>>26093771
Just offer him half what he wants but specify that it’s CASH in HAND and not a check or money order
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>>26093782
No
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>>26093784
Then have fun not owning it lol
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>>26093787
Ok boomer
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>>26093800
And who do you think he’s buying it from, pendejo? You gotta play the boomers game better than the boomers
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>>26093814
Shutup gringo
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>>26086022
i want a Z project car so fuckin bad bros
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>>26093837
I want a skyline idiot. Give me skyline.
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>>26093840
i own one, its like this but blue
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>>26093841
Are you just trying to fuck me off at this point
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>>26093843
no its true
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>>26093845
Yeah well I'll offer you about a monkey
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>>26093846
its not for sale sorry
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>>26093849
Yes it is.
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>>26086022
What's a good classic car for someone who doesn't have the ability to fix stuff on their own? Like a car that is quite drivable without much maintenance but also doesn't cost an arm + leg to take to the shop when needed (i.e. avoiding exotic parts). I am not a racer or horsepower maximizer - I want to use it as my daily but I also want to feel cool as hell driving it without giving up too much ride comfort (I do not want to feel the pebbles on the road or have it be loud on the highway).
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>>26093854
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>>26093854
>What's a good classic car for someone who doesn't have the ability to fix stuff on their own?
There isn't one
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I just want a classic car because it doesn't have all the botnet new cars do to be honest but I have no clue how to work on cars
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>>26093867
beautiful boat tail riviera
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>>26093850
shut up, fag
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>>26093944
>shut up, fag
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>>26093944
>>26093966
cancelling both of you queer posts by checking you both
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hey do any of you have pics like this but with a plymouth 2 door of the same era?
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>>26093892
Boat tails are gorgeous and were available with dual quads. Sexy and fast
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>>26091322
>zippertits
Hey! As a new member of the zipper club I resemble that remark!
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"Hey nobody likes these roadkill retards and they're leaving anyways, will you do a show for us? Yeah just be yourself, but act retarded"
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>>26094735
I'm guessing it's either the number of takes or the script.
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>>26094735
roadkill jumped the shark at the d100 episode, that was the last time it ever made me feel like going on a joyride and it has never recaptured it that feeling again that it had in the earlier seasons.
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>>26095041
they somehow managed to drain all the charm and intuition out of Derek right from the start too

as if the issue wasnt actually finnetard and boomerburger
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>>26094735
I liked the episode on the OHC 6 tempest makes me want to put one in firebird
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>>26095276
i liked that car but it was probably the last episode im gunna watch
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>>26095276
i'd hate to pay them just to dig through a mountain of shit to find that one episode because i havent seen it

might as well not exist

hope Derek keeps his own channel going
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>>26093854
Do you have more money than sense?
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>>26095838
I shid before I fard, if that helps.
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my daily driver is a reliant scimitar gte
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>>26096012
Any classic costs a fortune to maintain if you can't wrench.
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>>26096039
Based?
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>>26096048
Not necessarily. If you buy a low mileage, basic car, (think Tempest, Biscayne, Satellite, truck) If you consider what you would pay per month to drive a new or newer car, including taxes and insurance, then it isn’t actually too bad. Consider also that said classic doesn’t depreciate like a new car does the second you drive it off of the lot, it’s not terrible. I pay $129 a year for full coverage on my old C10. I haven’t checked what it costs to insure a new car but I’m guessing some people pay that every month or so. While I do all my own maintenance, I haven’t spent $500 dollars in parts this year. Oil change, carrier bearing, new radiator, tuning kit for Edelbrock carb.
You don’t have to be a great mechanic at the get go, but if you’re willing to buy some basic tools and research a little bit, you can start doing some basic stuff and as you learn, do more as it comes up. Now there is YouTube and you don’t even have to pay for a repair manual.
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>>26096557
I think the hardest part is getting over the fear of fucking up
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I'd say that I knew very little practically about cars before I bought my first classic. Three years later she (barely) passes inspections and is a joy to drive. Bought a second classic and I feel a lot more up to the task of restoring her. Didn't ever spend that much and did most of the work myself in my tiny garage and little driveway.

>>26093854
It's not that hard and you don't even need to get that dirty. Buy a manual (a hard copy not digital) and read it a bit. Watch some you tube videos, and get a basic tool box.
Find out how a transmission works. How a carb works. How drum brakes work. How a distributor works. How a starter motor works. How a differential works. How the oiling system works. How valve timing works. How an alternator works. How a radiator works. etc etc.
No need to do it all at once, do it over a period of time and you will be pretty confident in taking off drum brakes, or playing with the points in your distributor, or replacing a bushing in the suspension, or doing some electrical wiring.

>>26097192
This was one of my bigger fears when first starting on my car. The feeling of being young and feeling like if you fuck up then you'll feel stupid in the eyes of others is long gone now.
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>>26097367
should I buy this 70s Civic as my first car? It needs a gas tank
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>>26097389
Do you have a tank or know where to source one?
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>>26097389
If you mean a 1st gen, they look pretty neat. Know nothing about them but nothing immediately worrying popped up on a quick google search. You might have to deal with rust, and a fuel tank might be a bit difficult to source if you want full original, but I've never had to find a fuel tank so I wouldn't know. Generally there are people who appreciate classics all over the place, but for something like a 1gen civic it might be more younger people you'll find (i.e. people without one foot in the grave).

Find a good hard copy manual and get going. It'll be a cool little cruiser and I imagine it wouldn't be that expensive to keep going. Just remember, do the work yourself, or you will find yourself out of pocket very quickly. Electricals can be tough the first time until you stop fucking around and get a multimeter with a wiring diagram of the car and do a bit of research into how electricity works in cars (that physics lesson in high school suddenly seems more relevant these days...)

Inspection checks should be on the owner first; is he some cunt who wants to siphon money out of you and wouldn't drop the price by ten cents or the based boomer who admits his age and wants it to go somewhere good for whatever price you give him. The car itself should be checked for damage, obvious bodge jobs or leaks. Everything else can be sorted out with a test drive and some talking. Ask questions and see if they're shifty or honest. Strike up conversations outside of the scope of the car if they have the time for it to find out more about them and them about you.

I've fixed every problem I've come across in the ol' pug with a box of tools, a multimeter and a few other bits of kit. Ignition blows up? No worry, just wire a switch to your dash to turn your ignition on. Window washers don't work because the washer motor shit itself? No worry, just install a foot pump for your window washers. Don't let these cars rust away or be hidden in a garage somewhere. Drive them.
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>>26086022
>customer brings in v12 shitbox
>says engine was rebuilt 20 years ago before sitting, never fired
>cheap jew doesn't want to spend any money
>insist that we should take a look at the bottom end because we don't know who built it and how good of a job they did
>"no, just get it running, I trust the guy who built it"
>tell him that if it locks up, we're not responsible because we didn't build it
>okay.jpg
>find all sorts of amateur shit done wrong while fixing it, notify customer
>"I don't want anything extra done, I don't want to spend any more money than necessary"
>rebuild carb, fill with oil, fix coolant leaks, file points, new coils, the usual shebang
>fire it
>runs okay, good oil pressure at pump
>kill it after heat cycling fully, tell customer he can come in Monday to hear it run
>go to start it up Monday, engine is seized right the fuck up
>hand the customer a bill for work done so far, tell him engine is junk
>maximum_kvetching.webm
Kek, I love my job.
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>>26097389
Didn't first gen Civics have some weird vacuum line filled engine bay?
Got a manual for the cvcc for it somewhere......
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>>26097985
yeah roadkill put a cvvc engine into laphonda because finnegan is dumb, i think they just put egr and distributor on manifold advance, surprise, it runs like shit
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>>26098049
I've seen wiring diagrams simpler than this
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>>26098130
its on the list of lands i must conquer

but today, diagnosing mystery mess in the S10. It's coolant and its not consistently leaking, or even leaking that much, but its a bloody mess

looking to actually build a 3.1 for the truck with the stock block and a LG8 rotating assembly, but the less you buy the more the JY charges you, $60 for the crank and $30 *per* connecting rod, its cheaper to buy another entire engine even though i already have two totes full of 3.8 accessories and bits

ill probably pass on doing the sniper as ive found other people modding the TBI units for stuff like E85
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Drove the tr7 today
Drove pretty nice, a few redlines were nice to hear
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Bird is parked for the season, or the rest of my ownership really. Ive gotten my deposit and the buyer is scheduled to come pick up everything Monday. Pretty cool situation so I'll share details when it's over with.
I haven't decided if I'll wait until spring to pick up another car, be it a cobra or merc. I guess it really depends on if my ideal spec model comes up. Winter time in the northeast is usually a buyers market when it comes to sports cars; its just actually checking the car out that sucks balls
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>>26098412
Shut up faggot nobody cares
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>>26098049
>>26098049
That looks just as bad as an RX7 or Datsun/Nissan from the same period.
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>>26098412
Did it give you a rager listening to it? Was it a boner that this>>26098524 closeted faggot would secretly love to slob on?
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Was the boomer myth of going to a junkyard to find a cheap vintage daily driver ever real
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>>26098965
It still exists. I'm looking at possibly getting a 1970 Ford wagon that is considered "barn find" for less than $1100. All I'll need to do is slap tires on it and do the usual stuff to a car that's been sitting 20+ years. Hoping the guy has a title to it.
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why do all old VW vans have such a premium? is there something similar to those that is cheaper
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>>26099110
The Ford/Chevy/Dodge had a similar van. Think the Mystery Machine style van, which was arguably a Ford Econoline. pic related
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>>26099137
plus you can get I6 or even V-8s in them instead of that pussy air cooled vee dub shit.
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>>26099142
air cooled engines are cool
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>>26098964
KEK something like that
6500 is a nice little redline but part of me does wonder if the motor couldn't turn to 7k without crashing a valve. I have heard 7200 is the limit not like there is power up there.
Though I noticed the tach acting a little funky up there, almost how smiths gauges act when you have a dodgy coil, having a bit of bounce.
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>W110 Diesel for $6500
>3rd gen F250 for $6500
God, I wish I could wrench. old cars are so cool
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>>26099154
Buy an old car and a wrench set, anon. Gotta start somewhere. Pic related was my shop when I lived at home and was still learning, kek.
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>>26099164
>>26099164
nice pic, fag
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>>26099164
Forgot pic
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>>26099166
I'm a few beers deep and ive been wrenching all day, cut me some slack
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>>26099164
>>26099167
i dont live at home or anywhere like that. i also dont own a car.
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>>26099171
kek, just bustin your balls
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>>26097908
Lincoln V12?
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>>26098964
>t. Fagggot
3 g’s cuz your triple gay
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>>26099174
Then buy a car, live in said car, and learn to wrench on it while you live in it. Ez pz.
>>26099205
Yeah, 36
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>>26099248
Why would I live in a car
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>>26099208
stay queer, mad.
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>>26099254
You can live in a car but can't drive a house
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>>26099267
What are you even trying to say to me
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>>26099271
Don't piss in your house/car where your sheepskin floor mats are
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>>26099279
ok moneybags mcgee, not all of us can afford a Jaguar.
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>>26099279
I wouldn’t piss in work truck with a rubber floor and weather tech mats. Much less a fucking Buick.
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>>26099248
Shame. I'm thinking of offering on that Pierce-Arrow I posted last thread; any suggestions?
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>>26099327
When you go to close the deal, grab the seller by the dick, look him in the eye, and say that he should worry not that you've got the Pierce-Arrow resto under control.
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>>26099142
You can increase the bore and stroke of an air cooled Volkswagen engine by more than 5mm, try doing that to a v8
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>>26099534
Congrats it went from 10 horses to 11 wooohoooo retard
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>>26099539
Oh you don't know what you're talking about, got it. Thanks buddy.
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>>26099205
Sure looks like one
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>>26099598
Wow thanks for posting that picture again. Maybe we could go ahead and post it a few more times so nobody confused.
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>>26099571
Oh wow it made 11.5! Hans get the good sausage out it’s time to celebrate
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>>26099633
checked and lm7 is a retard junkyard faggot
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>>26088256
I've watched this guy race a few times, fun to watch in person. An original 60s Shelby Cobra set up for autocross. The owner is super deep into the details and adjustments to shave a few seconds off the times. Basically a million dollar track car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT3aZzGpG84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHk99ruMMI
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>>26098965
Not ime since they always seemed to want their purchase price along with all the money they thought they could make by parting it out. I guess if they got something rare somebody might've ponied up the cash but mostly buying a whole car from them would've been stupidly expensive.
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>>26098049
Is there a way to just delete all of this
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Guys I want to know if the rear windows on a 1970 Dodge Challenger roll down on all the models or just the S/E models. I can’t find the answer anywhere so maybe you can help
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>>26100028
They only didn't roll down on the coupe models. The hard top models all had roll down windows. The challenger coupes were usually poverty spec
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Hello fellow classic car enthusiasts
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>>26099534
A big block Chevy will do that. You can take a 396 and bore it to 427 .040 over, then use a 454 crank (4.0 to 4.25) or even larger with after market cranks. That’s how you can make 496” 540” 555”. To go bigger than that you need an aftermarket block. To get a 598” or 632 I believe that the bore spacing needs to be widened which would require the correct bore space heads too like Sonny’s or I’m sure Brodix, Dart, and AFR make heads for the application. No reason to overbore a 396” though when you can just start with a 454 or 502.
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>>26100084
Down to play snowrunner?
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>>26100084
press F to pay respects to cab mounts

>>26100590
is it multiplayer?

>>26099959
im almost sure theres a webber conversion and dizzy recurve

but doing that you can probably kiss emissions compliance and 40mpg goodbye

one of my friends was having a rough day so i took him through my projects and now hes sending me every classic MB on marketplace because he wants one
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>>26099534
You can do it on an FE block.
Different factory bores varied by 4mm on the same block castings for different displacements depending on application.
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>>26099534
Also, my sbf is stroked .4", which is over 10mm.
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>>26100910
I think he was trolling, because I measured a 460 vs 572 BBF and the stroke difference was 14.6xx mm
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>>26100915
I don't think he's trolling. I think (like most europoors) he just has no experience in V8's.
SBF 289>347 is like +13.46mm stroke.

I personally like VW engines and would love to build baja bug with a 2275. Pretty sure that requires more than 5mm of bore or stroke.
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>>26100935
They're kinda cool in that they're dial-a-displacement but at the end of the day it's still a Volkswagen.
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>>26100947
Hitler's VW isn't VAG's VW.
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>>26100947
Cool cheat sheet.
I'm sure there's issues with con rod lengths and wrist pin to piston top dimensions but still pretty cool how you can blueprint specs for a particular application and build accordingly (like the 427 big bore/short stroke vs 428 small bore/long stroke)
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>>26100986
Makes me wonder if they are interference engines or not now that you bring up piston height relative to deck.
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>>26100986
Of course there's issues BUT this is a well-tread path at least.
I also seem to remember Chevy rods being popular on strokers but I think that has more to do with case clearance than anything.
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>>26100580
So you can't do the same thing with a bbc? .040 is just over 1mm, that's nowhere near as much as you can do with a Volkswagen.
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>>26101134
.060" is about the biggest you can go without sleeving.
Otherwise, slap a stroker crank in there. That's how you turn a 302 SBF into a 347.
But that's just the crankshaft. with a .060" overbore, that's 352"

And just boring a 496bbc .060" alone gives an extra 14 cubes. That, plus a 4.75" stroke crank gives a displacement of 554 cubes.
That's almost an extra liter.
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>>26101134
A 396 is a 4.096 bore. A 427 is 4.250, add the .040 and you’re at 4.290. You can go to 4.446 and make it a 502 if you go with a 4” 454 crank.
A 402 is a .030 over 396. A 427 is a bored 396. (Both use the same 3.76 crank). A 454 is a stroked (4”) 427. A 454 bored to 4.446” is a 502 as mentioned.
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>>26086022
wanting to get a StarQuest to try and throw a 4g63 from an evo in it, is that a retarted idea, or is it doable?
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>>26101660
It's only doable if you think you can shit without pissing a drop.
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Not classic, but maybe someone may know what happen. This happened to my friends 2017 f150 rear axle and caused him to lose control. Any ideas what would cause this? Should he get the entire rear rebuilt?
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>>26101730
Bad forging or your friend was doing too many donuts with sandbags in the back and it sideloaded the fuck out of the axle. Either way, just get a new axle, repack the bearings, and run it.
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>>26101730
Man I've heard about C-clip eliminators but not like that.
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>>26101729
Can most people not do that?
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Found a 1980 Fiat Spider for 3.5k near me (looks the same as pic rel) 30k miles on a rebuilt engine and trans. You guys think this would be a solid first car that I could work on, have to work on some minor electrical stuff
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>>26102100
forgot the pic my bad
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>>26102100
Carburetted or injected? It's a nice project, but it won't be a reliable daily driver.
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>>26102100
That depends, are you either
>a faggot
>a hair dresser
If yes to either (or both) go ahead and get it
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>>26102263
I think 80 is still carb. Fun car, needs another gear and about 50 more horsepower and it would be really good. They are getting pretty rare to find in good shape. If you can keep it garaged and not drive it in the winter, it will last. If not, it won’t.
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>>26102484
In that case go for it. Learn everything there is to know about the carb, as you will be fiddling with it a lot.
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>>26102468
>>26102468
why do you like to suck dick so much?
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>>26102468
Whats that weak shit anon
Insult loud and proud anon jesus
Or has it lost its luster or something?
>>26102509
Are they downdraft webbers? Always wondered what those carbs where like to deal with.
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>>26102637
>>26102637
Even though you are an actual faggot, "faggot"faggot has always been a weaker faggot than you.
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>>26102637
Looks like the 32/36 Downflow. Mom had a Late 70, or early 80’s Spyder, (she also had a Midget). ;p. It was an extra car so it wasn’t relied on. I drove it and borrowed it for dates more than she would drive it. It never gave us any problems, never had to do anything carb or ignition wise.
I had the understanding that Webers were very tunable and versatile, but probably not all of them. I’d imagine the old multiple side drafts on all the Italian performance machines of the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s were very tunable, jet wise, as well as the enrichment circuit. How’s the Stromberg been running?
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>>26102735
I always ask because I hear TR7 guys complain when they put the 32/36's on their cars.
Usually runs them poorly unless they are racing and can actually use the flow(which I would imagine its possible to slap on HS8's on if cfm is what you need)
As for my Strombergs, well I am running HS6's now but I have worked on a few since I ditched my set. I don't get the hate to CD175's outside of being emissions carbs they do the job alright so long as they don't have an FASD on them
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Not totally classic related but…. Bought an asphalt race car today with the new house. Chassis, a couple of 4 speeds, most of the stuff to put a motor together, gauges etc. it has a 90’s Camaro body but I would like to put an early vette body or something. Should be very quick as it doesn’t weigh much. Plan is to title it as historic and put it on the street. I’ll post some pictures after we close.
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bump
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I'm going to be picking up a donor vehicle soon, but it doesn't have any wheels or rims! Would I have to buy said wheels and rims and install them before leading the vehicle off the lot? I'd be working with a basic trailer, and it'd be a bitch to move without it.
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>>26104269
Seems like you answered your own question
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>>26104326
Faggot
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>>26104444
Am I supposed to spell it out for him or something?
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>>26104450
No your supposed to have sex (with women, faggot), gain height, take a shower, hit the weights, and get a clue
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>fuel tank moves just enough to rub the sending unit hose into the trunk floor cutout
>rubs a hole in the line
>have only a couple screwdrivers and a razor knife and some junk in the rear footwell
>dont want to walk to autozone because apparently it's half a mile down the street and I don't want any of my shit to get stolen
>can't get to the hose clamp to remove the line from the fillerneck
>get a brake pad and a flathead
>use the brake pad as a hammer
>beat a fuckin rip through the floor
>bend it out of the way
>cut the line and refit it
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>>26104491
the clamp was not accessable without having beat the floor out of the way
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>>26104453
Well I married a woman taller than me and she popped out my child, so idk what else to do
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>>26104506
The rest of the stuff on the list so hit the weights, take a shower, gain height
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>>26104506
>I married a woman taller than me
>plus procreated with
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>>26104524
>gain height
Idk about this one but I'll handle the other two
>>26104531
:^)
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>>26104506
I married a woman 16” shorter than me and like 1/3rd my body weight shits cash. All my kids will probably still be tall hopefully since her family is tall just not her. Sister in law is prime D1 breeding stock
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>>26104453
>take a shower
Hey, Hey, Hey! Let's not get carried away here!
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>>26102799
>I don't get the hate to CD175's outside of being emissions carbs
The early ones with an idle screw on the carb and a jet adjustment screw are tolerable. The later ones (like cd2se) are just layers of fuckery, especially the needle popping out of its threads if you unscrew the dashpot adjustment screw three turns. Never mind the common oil leaks through the dashpot, which aren't always fixable even with the right o-ring. Nevermind the idle trimming screw which actually introduces a vacuum leak instead of changing the mixture.
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Going to buy this; no drivetrain, but it has a title.
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>>26095041
I didn't realize it at the time, but the only redeeming episode after the D100 was the barn find Firebird and even that one was still lackluster. I still watch it for nostalgia when nothing else is on. But the gay "battles" and "shootouts" have killed the show for me
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>>26105052
for how many dollar
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>>26105179
$300.
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>>26105227
fuck, what the hells wrong with it
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>>26104986
Personally I don't mind adjusting with the allen key tool. Granted thats the only ones I have worked on. But I will give you one thing, the set I had and actually could monitor oil usage on, holy hell those things just drank oil. Its a different beast from my HS6's that I haven't filled in months and are as reliable as a brick
But otherwise I find you can..."adjust around the imperfections" if its a set you just need to run well enough.
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>>26104488
>>26104491
>>26104494
>>26104498
Got to give it to you: anyone who says you aren't a hot-rodder in the most classic sense of the phrase is lying to themselves.
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>>26105227
Is it at least a Bill Blass edition?
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I finally finished modifying the belt drive on the bronco and installed this beefy tie rod kit. The belt squeal is finally gone and the PS pulley has enough engagement to power the brakes and steering at the same time. Feels great. Now I just need to do a half assed alignment and clean up the mess I made
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>>26105230
No motor, no trans, no driveshaft, rust on hood, trunk, doors, etc. Floor is solid, seats are nice.

>>26105302
No; even better, it's a factory vinyl top delete car.
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>>26105307
Post interior pics NAO
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>>26105307
please tell me you're gunna put a 4speed in that big bitch
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>>26105454

>>26105476
If I can find a wrecked donor truck with a 400; I'd consider it.
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>>26105484
Nice. Just needs a new Rim-blo steering wheel and a deep cleaning and you are good to go.
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>no classic updates to post

Just been doing engine number 2 on my dad's diesel and brushing up on bike shit.

>>26101730
What the absolute fuck. Did he run it low on oil?

>>26105484
Weren't you downsizing?
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>>26105484
400s are gas hogs without the power. I went with 460s in my trucks thanks to Lincoln donors and kept the C6 boxes. That car being basically a truck bigger is better. Swap the emissions cam and either behaves better.
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>>26105297
No, that's redneck bullshit. A hot rodder would cut it out cleanly and make a removable panel to access it in the future.
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>>26105503
Yes. I suck at it.

>>26105523
Some research into motor mounts is needed; since the 460 was an option. I'm going to go with a sleeper luxury fun build.
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>>26105567
You're lying to yourself, son.
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>>26105639
You're retarded, son
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>>26105642
You really have the most basic, bullshit boomermeme folder, don't you, "faggot"faggot?? Go ahead and post the Christian Bale ones next, fagmo.
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>>26105567
I was going to complete an access hole for it but I had not finished
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>>26105648
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Converting from points to electronic ignition worth the expense and hassle? I've never had anything with points before but I heard they're kind of a headache to maintain.
Found a Ranger in the junkyard with the same carb V6 as in my Capri and it has Duraspark II which I've heard is a big upgrade.
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>>26105762
>duraspark
>upgrade
lol, lmao even

Seriously, keep the points.
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>>26105777
Yeah when I had a ranger with the cologne 2.8 there was a lot of info about swapping back to the older distributor with points and getting rid of the weird bullshit it came with online because most people preferred the more basic setup. That said my Volkswagen has an electronic points replacement inside the distributor and I've never had any issues with it.
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>>26105648
>t. Faggot
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>>26105793
stay queer, mad.
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>>26105762
Pertronix module or a full MSD setup
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>>26105813
I love my msd setup and ready to run distributor 10/10 would recommend
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>>26105777
I haven't had any issues with it in my other car, however its only covered a couple hundred miles since becoming drivable. Time will tell
>>26105813
yeah I suppose that will probably end up being cheaper in the long run since I'd be getting junkyard parts with unknown history
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>>26105813
i av never fooled with aftermarket ignition, ive had alot of luck with leaving my duraspark cars the way they are
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>>26105585
Well since you’re going sleeper luxury, might as well go with the 460. Lots of aftermarket support and the extra 60 cubes is always nice. If you really wanted to make it an unsuspected beast, go .030 over with a 1/4” stroke and give it a 150 shot. Scat rotating assemblies are cheap enough. Heck if you upgrade to forged, you could do a 250 shot.
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>>26105762
Never messed with points but I like the lucas opus systems I have worked on
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>>26105523
>400s are gas hogs without the power
Is that why Kaase used them to absolutely trash the competition in Powermasters several years in a row?
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>>26106380
Engine masters is judged on making horsepower per cubic inch, not making absolute horsepower. His BBF and boss 9 stuff is absolutely gorgeous, but generally falls short in horsepower when compared to big block Chevy or hemis. That’s why when looking at say, super gas cars, the class is dominated by bbc. It’s just more economical to build a 12-1400 horse bbc.
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>>26105307
A buddy of mine’s mom had one of these with the 400. I think they might still have it. His dad ordered it with out the vinyl top because they rusted out so bad. They still had it rust on the windshield frame. It was quite the pimp mobile.
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>>26106500
>Typical Chevy cope
Fuck your Chitty bullshit
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>>26106685
Bring whatever ford powered piece you have and I’ll run it for a grand. With a small block.
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>>26105585
https://youtube.com/shorts/y1lJsG-rgGs?feature=share
Saw this on YouTube, thought you'd get a laugh
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>>26106787
There's a point where the insulting offers are lower than the satisfaction of smashing the thing. Particularly when you say "not parting out" and people expect you to ship them a set of wheels for $100.
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>>26106787
I really really hate tiktok niggers
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>>26105656
An access panel be as simple as a license plate with 2 screws and RTV
>t. mom's grand cherokee had the old HVAC drain tube clog up and it was boxed into the frame

>>26105762
If you don't want to go full MSD, pertronix is a solid option. I put one in 383 chrysler and it vastly improved the idle and smoothness of the engine overall. It's not hard to do either. You just gotta delete the balast resistor which involves connecting two wires together, and install the replace the points system inside the distributor. Involves installing a new breaker plate and the pertronix sensor.
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>>26106726
what inch?
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>>26106979
yup.
>I bUrNeD mY iNtERiOr fOr InTeRneT PoInTs! I wIn!
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Pertonix is literally just MSD’s janetty, you wanna drive a jannetty mobile?
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>>26107131
434. 2600#
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>>26105052
of course no drivetrain, we drivecar
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>>26107259
Rx7?
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>>26107500
No, ironically it’s in a Ford. Makes a bit more power than the 40 that it originally came with.
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>>26107569
post it up
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