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Synthwave edition
Post night riding music and motorcycles
https://youtu.be/CQXMIiYA5GA?t=4

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To be added or updated, email johntheripper@cock.email with:
>The year/make/model of your bike and a web-hosted photo of it
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>>25612866
wtf that twist wrist link is down
here's a new one i'll fix it in new OPs.........
https://youtu.be/EIbMN0lZd14
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Duke
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>>25612876
Twist of the wrist(1&2) is outdated and not teaching correct information
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>>25612887
well the first one there is street smarts
as for twist wrist it helped me learn to corner by teaching me that leaning doesn't matter but countersteering does and once you crack open the throttle you roll smoothly onto it throughout the curve
so be more specific or gargle my balls
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>>25612887
post back tire (wont happen btw)
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I want a Harley Pan Amera so bad bros
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>>25612902
OK, now you do it.
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>>25612878
>A KTM with more than one cylinder
Kinda cringe fr fr no cap
But I'd buy one
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>>25612909
thats not yours STOP I JUST GOT THE BIKE YOU CANT DO THAT DELETE THAT THATS NOT YOUR BIKE HELP
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>>25612878
that's the bike I want
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I'll have to make a new seat at some point. The stock one gets lifted when I lift the tank.
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>>25612866
In Pythagorean Gematria
Harley=33
Indian=33

Walt Disneys 33rd Animated Film was?
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>>25612704
Absolutely gonna do MSF first, just thinking about what I'm gonna want after that.
Dude who posted all those links wasn't me, but state and county are kind of a hard thing because I'm moving soon and not sure exactly where yet. It'll probably be a major city in the South or Southwest though. I'm not likely to do 200+ mile rides on this bike though, it's definitely something I'd like to do down the line but that'll be a future bike, this will just be for commuting and shorter distance fun but not particularly fast rides on whatever scenic and twisty roads are around. I don't feel like I should try to get a "forever bike" at this point, I want the easiest and safest learning experience I can get and don't really want to box myself into something more expensive that I may not end up liking that much - I can write off the depreciation on a 5k bike but once that price goes up it's gonna be a lot harder to feel that way.

>>25612678
Looks like it's long out of production and I'm really looking to buy new. I'm really not into the idea of a bike I have to hold back on like that anyway, I'd rather have a slower bike I can get on hard without killing myself.

>>25612683
Vehicle loan counts toward what I need.

>>25612710
It's still on the list, but I'm just kinda concerned about some of the things I've seen in reviews, especially the high-speed stalling issues.

>>25612696
Most of those are the wrong kinds of bikes or way more than I want to spend.
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https://youtu.be/2cpOQh529b0

Best video on shifting?
I Know how to do it just not perfect
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>>25612964
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-heritage/models/bolt-r-spec
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/supersport/models/yzf-r7
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/hyper-naked/models/mt-07
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-heritage/models/xsr700
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-650/2022-ninja-650-abs?cm_re=MPP-_-NINJA%C2%AE650:MODELS-_-VIEWSPECSDETAILS
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/z/supernaked/z650/2022-z650-abs?cm_re=MPP-_-Z650:MODELS-_-VIEWSPECSDETAILS
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/z/retro-sport/z650rs/2022-z650rs?cm_re=MPP-_-Z650RS:MODELS-_-VIEWSPECSDETAILS
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800/2022-W800?cm_re=MPP-_-W800:MODELS-_-VIEWSPECSDETAILS
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/vulcan/sport-cruiser/vulcan-s/2022-vulcan-s?cm_re=MPP-_-VULCAN%C2%AES:MODELS-_-VIEWSPECSDETAILS
https://powersports.honda.com/street/adventure/xr650l
https://powersports.honda.com/street/cruiser/shadow-aero
https://powersports.honda.com/street/cruiser/rebel-1100
https://powersports.honda.com/street/standard/cb650r
https://suzukicycles.com/sportbike/2022/gsx-r600z
https://suzukicycles.com/street/2022/sv650-abs
https://suzukicycles.com/cruiser/2022/boulevard-c50
https://suzukicycles.com/dualsport/2023/dr650s
https://suzukicycles.com/dualsport/2023/dr-z400s

Go with one of the bottom two
Just get it brand new and dont worry about the extra few thousand
you are financing it, just pay it off fast
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>>25612893
>leaning doesn't matter but countersteering does
(track riding) leaning is 10x more important, you want to reduce the bike's lean angle as much as possible for the best possible tire contact patch. More lean = more risk. Body position straight up and down vs "hanging off" is night and day in how the motorcycling responds in corners. You would never be able to go around the track fast with your butt in the middle of the seat the whole time.

>open the throttle you roll smoothly onto it throughout the curve
initial throttle has to be very smooth, yes. but the whole idea that all the braking has to be done before the corner, before the apex, before the turn in - is 100% incorrect.
you stay on the brakes until you are happy with your speed and the direction the bike is pointed. if that's 75% through the turn then so be it. The idea that you can't lean the bike with the brakes at the same time is antiquated.
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I'll see you boys at Laguna seca. Chad shit
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>>25613020
I would rather see child porn be spammed here than see your ugly fucking face again.
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>>25613020
they wont let you on the track without a license unless you are just there to spectate?
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>>25613020
I thought the mutt meme was just a meme ameribros...
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>>25613026
>I would rather see child porn
0/10. nice try, you'll have to find it yourself
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>>25613026
i bet R6 pedo
i bet
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>>25613002
>leaning is 10x more important
hmmmmm
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>>25613002
i meant leaning doesn't control the bike, it's all countersteering, but yes body position in the turn does matter but they don't discourage that, they just say "yeah 'leaning turns the bike' is a myth, it's that you naturally countersteer while leaning and you need to understand the mechanics of that"
>what is trail braking
i don't think they discourage that either, you just don't brake IN the turn or you stand the bike up
i feel like their analysis of human survival responses in relation to riding is relevant and i honestly don't know what issue you have with them
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>>25613002
>you want to reduce the bike's lean angle as much as possible
How can I reduce the lean angle? By turning slower? Or with magic?
>Body position straight up and down vs "hanging off" is night and day in how the motorcycling responds in corners. You would never be able to go around the track fast with your butt in the middle of the seat the whole time.
what's this in simplified English
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>>25612991
I will never fall for (((financing)))
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>>25613048
>you just don't brake IN the turn or you stand the bike up
What if I brake in the turn and move the handlebar to keep it leaned
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>>25613057
he means the BIKE needs to be leaned less to maximize its traction so you maybe shouldn't do this >>25613045 because it pushes the bike down toward the pavement and reduces traction as opposed to leaning with it
>>25613064
what
idk maybe
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>>25613064
What if I break ur nose
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herro ninja 400 goys
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>>25613060
>I will never fall for (((financing)))
It makes sense when inflation is higher than interest rates
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>>25613045
thats a supermoto aka dirt bike on pavement. dirt bikes dont follow the same rules. on dirt you want the weight on top of the wheels and tires for traction. find a professional motogp rider with that body position on their bike...

>>25613048
>naturally countersteer while leaning
yes, and mentally it plays no part on the track. unless you are at almost full lean and you need to countersteer to help you straighten back up.

>issue you have with the
TofW:II teaches to never use the rear brake, and more bs about braking after turn in pages 104-105
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>>25613045
he's talking about road racing not putting around a gokart "track"
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>>25612887
you're right but TOTW was never anything more than an elementary guide to cornering, it's like MSF for the twisties
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>>25613070
>so you maybe shouldn't do this >>25613045 # because it pushes the bike down toward the pavement and reduces traction as opposed to leaning with it
Wait
If it's pushing the bike down doesn't it mean better grip and less risk of skidding and falling? I've always tried to stay up (or lean against the bike) thinking it was safer
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>>25613087
i just watched the video and didn't read the book, but the dude at the start that said "trail braking" actually got me to look it up and now i use it when i ride because it feels nice
post a better learning resource then u faget
>>25613101
see >>25613087
only on dirt is that preferable because dirt's soft
on asphault it's risking a slip because it's hard
easy
if it were preferable you'd see real racers doing it
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>>25613057
>How can I reduce the lean angle?
Body position
Ass 1 cheek off the seat, inside arm bent, outside arm resting on the gas tank. Head and eyes up. Make a triangle with your leg. Ball of the foot on the footpeg, turn the knee outwards like a sail.

^on the track. on the street you should never be trying to drop a knee, just pivoting the upper torso and turning the shoulders is enough
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>>25613101
Foot out/counter steering is indeed 'safer'. In the end its what you feel most comfortable with. On a sumo, tight technical sections counter steering + foot out, in fast sweepers its knee out. >>25613088
>>25613087
lol. lmao
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The map is gay and anyone that posts in the discord is a fucking loser.
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>>25613020
Fucking legend.
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>>25613120
>The map is gay
seeing a bike map is cool
>anyone that posts in the discord is a fucking loser
yes, that's right
the two are not mutually exclusive
i like baiku map but i'm not associating with discord trannies
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>>25613115
>post a better learning resource then u faget
nta but look up motovudu on yt and downloads his books, i know it will get mocked but most anons here aren't able to comprehend his level
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>>25613128
hmm
i may do that
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>>25613118
How can counter steering be safer if it's the only way of steering
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>>25612683
lmao youre the moron that thinks credit scores are only tied to credit card use.
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>>25613100
while we are at it MSF is teaching wrong things too.
"Get all the braking done before the corner" "Never brake in a corner"
But maybe they need to because it would be information overload to explain too much to new riders. Idk
I haven't been to the MSF in 15+yrs do they teach trail braking?
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>>25613139
recently took it, they do not teach trail braking
i LITERALLY only know about trail braking because in the "whoa there's lots of advice out there!" portion of TW2 somebody says to always trail brake and i didn't know what that meant so i looked it up and i like it
so no, nobody teaches it
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>>25613139
>>25613144
add a line about it to the op for newfags so they don't dirt bike lean and die
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oops
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>>25612909
>>25612917
Lmao. Who has the smallest streetbike tendies in dbt?

>>25613020
What an oaf

>>25613116
>pivoting the upper torso and turning the shoulders is enough
I like to look through the side mirror and pretend I’m full bodyposition even though I’m not because it feels cool.
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>>25613144
>>25613128
best $50 you'll ever spend but if/when you sign up for their track days they give you the online stuff for free

https://ridelikeachampion.com/courses-page/
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>>25613157
the nearest one's in arizona
i'm in colorado
oh well
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>>25613132
counter leaning, dummeh.
>>25613115
>only on dirt is that preferable because dirt's soft on asphault it's risking a slip because it's hard easy
what?

pro tip: never follow the advice of randumb 4channers who got a bike last summer and suddenly think that they have the credentials to give 'advice' after watching motogp clips on YouTube and riding 'hard' in their local twisties
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>>25613139
My ride forever course instructor said trail braking was a good way to lock your wheel and crash. He was probably referring to trail braking the rear but I’ve never seen anyone teach that. I’ve only seen a vid of a ducati monster lock the rear and highside mid corner, but he may have downshifted or something

>>25613144
Theres a youtube channel called canyon chasers that teach it, they disagree with totw on what mid corner braking does. I don’t bother with any of that shit, I just ride with a margin and if I need to brake I’ll brake

>>25613151
Plenty of life left, trains brake just fine steel on steel
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>>25613167
So it's safer if I keep counter leaning? What are the other 2 ways of leaning for?
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>>25613167
but
you're only posting supermoto pics
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>>25613166
roadtrip. or wait until they go to a famous track (willow springs/ road atlanta) and make a vacation out of it. Although using your own bike would be best
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It is surprisingly easy to talk to women while traveling with my 75 year old mother. I guess bitches love a mommy's boy. This picture is from Zion, where I would like to ride my motorcycle to someday. There are no helmet laws here so I can leave the half helmet strapped to the rack.
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>>25613184
looks better
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>>25613180
are their driver's license laws there?
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My masterpiece

>>25613186
Than what
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>>25613188
than it did
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>>25613188
Why don’t you plaster that hole in your wall
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>>25613178
looks like they went up to denver last month but it's two hours away
maybe someday
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>>25611555
why?
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>>25613184
This gn saga reminds me of the dudes in high-school who would do butcher old jap hatchbacks by stanching them and gluing fake hood scoops on.
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>>25613190
Thanks
Like Id planned
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>>25613172
usually, on a normal motorcycle, you counterlean at slow u-turn in the parking lot speeds.
normal riding on the street you dont need the body to be off the bike

track riding the body needs to be off the bike to MINIMIZE the lean angle of the bike. the more you throw your body off to 1 side the straighter up the bike can be. the straighter up the bike, the more grip you have available
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>>25613172
Yes, street riding is generally neutral body position or a little bit of counter leaning. If you're on an upright standard bike like a dual sport, supermoto, ADV in the twisties, you can generally remain upright and neutral if you wanted. Sure, it's more fun to lean off the bike with your knee out, and it's also fun to counter lean with your foot out like a Moto America sumo rider, but it's not necessary. Now if you're going for record times, knee out thru long sweeping corners is the fastest. In back to back technical sections, it's easier and quicker to shift the bike under you (counter leaning). On a Supersport, the ergonomics generally don't make sense for foot out/counter leaning since it's easier to shift your ass and knee out to the side.
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>>25613201
this was also my understanding
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Where do you guys like your friction zone to be? I kinda like mine near the handlebars/early middle vs the very end
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>>25613201
>you counterlean at slow u-turn in the parking lot speeds.
Why, it's irrelevant at parking lot speeds
>normal riding on the street you dont need the body to be off the bike
So I just lean with the bike not more not less?
>track riding the body needs to be off the bike to MINIMIZE the lean angle of the bike. the more you throw your body off to 1 side the straighter up the bike can be.
I thought it was impossible to change lean angle? To do a given turn at x speed the bike has to lean y, and only a slower speed would allow it to lean less
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All this talk about steering and leaning is autism. If you ride a bike for more than 10 minutes all this stuff becomes intuitive. You don't have to put it into words.
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>>25613217
>Why, it's irrelevant at parking lot speeds
If you're doing a u-turn or making any kinds of slow sharp maneuevers, shifting your weight to the outside of the bike will make it want to lean over more, thus turning quicker and easier.
>So I just lean with the bike not more not less?
Basically, unless you want to have fun/mess around.
>and only a slower speed would allow it to lean less
huh? vid rel
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>>25613217
>I thought it was impossible to change lean angle?
holy shit
if YOU UP, bike down lower
if YOU DOWN, bike up higher
you stupid nigger
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>>25613214
Between the balls and the perineum
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>>25613201
Discord is laughing at you
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>>25613228
a) he's right
b) hrt doesn't change what you are
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>>25613226
Sure, it may help lean the bike more or less, just like forcing on the footpegs like a cruiser grandpa would, but the bike can't make the same turn at the same speed with different leaning angles, it's physics
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>>25613225
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>>25613188
All that work and nobody is gonna be able to tell the difference. Those who can will just think you rammed it into a tree a few times and some stuff is now misaligned
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>>25613228
>posting this shit like anyone would give a fuck
>talking about discord
>telling the world youre a complete faggot
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>25613238
you're exhausting
you're pretending the placement of the body has no effect on the position of the bike through the turn
and the position of the bike affects the tightness of the turn
at this point i'm assuming you're fishing for you's and i'm done talking to your stupid ass
countersteer into a semi
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>>25613244
The guys at the gn fb group sure will
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>>25613188
Oh it's a piece alright.
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How come none of you mother fuckers care if I get a lowrider s
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>>25613261
What's a lowrider s
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>>25613238
>can't make the same turn at the same speed with different leaning angles
no one said this?
the bike can't make a turn at high speed without lean angle.
a bike won't have much traction when the bike is leaned over
how do you solve this
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>>25613261
they wouldn't care if i built a hot rod either, but as soon as i mention building a cafe racer at least two come out and go "lol gay"
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is it ok to adapt a 100cc/110cc carburator to a 50cc engine?
is it worth it?
what mods are ok for an old 50cc bike?
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>>25613261
we dont hold HD in very high regard
ppl on /dbt buy china bikes off amazon
we are powerless to stop them. no one listens to our advice
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>>25613275
Leave that poor bicycle alone. Park it in your living room that seems like a good mod.
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>>25613246
>>25613230
Discord is now laughing at you incels
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>>25613261
Why do you care what anyone else cares? That's not very Low Rider S of you, anon.
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>>25613275
>Is it okay to do vague thing
Sure go ahead
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>>25613269
I lean against the bike so there's more grip on the tire
And control the handlebars so the bike doesn't lean any more or less depending on my upper bodys position you dingus
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SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT LEANING
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>>25613275
Usually that increases fuel consumption with no gain in performance. If your carb is bad just get another 50cc carb
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>>25613275
Leave it stock, you don't need more.
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>>25613286
This
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>see /b/ on road
>put kickstand down and get off bike to rescue bee
>put it into bushes
>it tries to fly away but lands on the road again
>It's cleaning it's wings and it's near the edge
>figure it is safe, leave
>it is smushed on the road when I get back
He was like a father to me
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>>25613294
I do believe your father was like a bee
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>>25613286
>stop talking about motorcycle things in /dbt
lets talk about trannies instead
so anyway.... motorcycles?
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>>25613297
i see your point but i'm a little exhausted with it and i'm not even a tranny
let's talk about anon's bee >>25613294
f
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>>25613285
Am I wrong? Am I not increasing grip by doing that?
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>>25613154
>Who has the smallest streetbike tendies in dbt?
not sure but mine are smoller than yours that means id beat you in races
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>>25613300
what bike would a bumble bee ride
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>>25613297
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>>25613151
Still got lots of life left on them
I should have taken a picture of mine
The piston or whatever you call it that pushes the pads had actually pushed through the pads and was being grinded on the rotor
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>>25613241
oh shit, i like when you post this one! gs500 is so good at turning and not falling over.
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>why are you putting a longer swingarm on your gn bro it's not necessary
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>>25613294
You motherfucker you didn't try hard enough that was my cousin!
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>>25613224
For street riding, sure. Tell anyone who races that body position is all just "intuitive" and you'll be laughed out of the pits.
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>>25613317
yea id have to get the extendo too not even gonna cap
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>>25613241
What's the point in leaning your body like that, it's like you're trying to pull the bike to the ground
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>>25613317
>bike is in somewhat good condition
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>>25613297
Do motorcycles have trannies?
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>>25613324
Just fun. He was trying to drag his helmet.
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>>25613305
>that means id beat you in races
The winner is whoever make it to the end alive so unlikely
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>>25613294
BEES ARE TRANS!
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>>25613326
the mechanical kind
/dbt has the mentally ill kind
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>>25613281
It's ironically the most Lowrider S thing you could ever post
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>>25613294
Can bees ride motorcycles or does the wind knock them off?
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>>25613332
you wouldn't push me over thats not good racing >:c
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>>25613336
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>>25613335
My bike does not have a tranny
I refuse to believe you
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>>25613337
If you keep the lil guy inside your helmet he'll be just fine! Also I once opened my visor for some air and a wasp got inside but some how didn't sting me.
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Did anybody say low rider s
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>>25613354
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>>25613351
I decided to ride with my jacket open once and a bee exploded onto my chest under my shirt which was moving in the wind
the stinger somehow got me and I had bee fragments all over me
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>>25613372
just bee yourself
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>>25613354
why do people buy american style japanese bikes
these types of people should be beaten with sticks
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>>25613372
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REAL OUCHERINO
>>25613373
Good post
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>>25613377
Best of both worlds
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>>25613373
I put the bee in /dbt/
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>>25613377
>why do people buy american style japanese bikes
cheap life insurance since American cars and bikes are deadly (not in a fun way) pieces of shit.
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SM/MX "counter" leaning is just the bike equivalent of handbrake turns and dorifuto, it works for super tight corners and low traction surfaces where it's a bitch cunt to rotate the bike that way when you're under it.

Hanging off is not even worth a lot of lap time relatively in track day/amateur racing terms but those people like to crash by pulling an epic biker move and lean angle maxing while increasing throttle because TotW said you can't lift after you turn in so it increases their margin for stupidity.
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>>25613392
Since we've brought this back and I can no longer tell who is being genuine or not, doesn't body position affect corner radius for a given lean angle a *tiny* bit? I can shift to one side on the bike while going straight and lean it over a bit the other way, yet still continue going straight.
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>>25613399
https://youtu.be/mvO4ZLFvbVI?t=408
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>>25612725
plugfones
I think they have a bluetooth version too.
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>>25613399
Yes it absolutely helps because the physics of the bike are that weight to the inside of the contact patch makes it corner, but the average rider is like 30s off a track lap record, barely if ever uses full throttle on bikes over 80hp, brakes so light they don't even need a front brake, and has a lean angle peak that is 110% mental rather than tire limited unless they are pulling the aforementioned epic biker move in which case having the bike more upright for what is likely still the same corner speed might keep them on two wheels another lap.
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where do you hang your gear /dbt/
>apartment is a synthwave album cover
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>>25613449
The closet in my entryway is basically dedicated to my motorcycle gear, and it smells really bad.
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This is how much I lean on my work commute.
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>>25612991
Hmm, I was kinda ready to write a dual sport off, just because of the highway performance, but it sounds like the DR650 might be adequate for getting from home to wherever the good trails are. I'm not sure it'll be right for my first bike, I'm concerned the 35" seat height is gonna be way too high for me to handle as a new rider, but something like that could be a pretty good second bike. It might also come down to traffic conditions where I end up, I'm used to Southern California freeways where anything slower than 6 seconds to 60 is terrifying but I know it's not like that everywhere.

As for the other stuff, I'm definitely not interested in a cruiser or anything along the lines of a full fairing sportbike, but I guess I could consider a 650 naked, just kinda concerned it's gonna be too much for me.
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https://youtu.be/gBdlScU7N6M
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>>25613474
If you are even average height then it's honestly not too tall. It's a bit annoying in stop/go traffic when you can't flat foot it, but consider that those bikes are made for trails and negotiating obstacles at relatively low speed, they're actually very well balanced and maneuverable with throttle+clutch control. Eventually you'll miss the taller ride if you ever go to something lower, and even cruisers that are easy to flat foot feel "top-heavy" by comparison. Not trying to sell you on a dual sport but definitely don't let it be a deal breaker.
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>>25613474
Dr650 is a great choice, try finding a used one.

If you can get comfortable with the seating position, balance, stopping with one foot instead of two you'd be off to a good start.
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>>25613502
Be careful of theft. Dual sports are very desirable and easy to steal.
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>>25613474
The best dirt bike riders in the world are all manlets. And they are on bikes with 37"+ seat heights. Even in stop start traffic it isn't an issue.
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What's a good cheap used commuter bike between 250-400cc that can fit decent saddlebags?
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>>25613498
>>25613502
I'll see if I can at least go look at one and sit on it etc. I'm leaning toward new for credit-building reasons that I mentioned last thread but I guess used might be an option too. (Guess I could look into a bank loan or even putting it on a credit card somehow and achieve the same thing.) My main concern is not being able to put two feet down in a panic situation, I'm only a 30" inseam and it's pretty tall for me to do that afaik.
The other hangup is just that I'm not really into the style. I like the more modern-looking ADVs but the boxy, brightly-colored dirtbike look of duals doesn't do much for me and honestly I feel like I'd feel like a dork riding one around, which isn't really what you want in a bike.

>>25613521
Yeah but they've been riding their whole lives while I'm an out of shape 36 year old who's never been on anything more intimidating than a shitty Chinese scooter.
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>>25613530
versys 300, enfield himalayan, drz400 adv mod
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a bit dirty but i couldn't go for a ride and not take a pic for my /dickbuttrannies/
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If anything my biggest complaint about the dual sports i've tried are the vibrations and buzz from single cylinder engines.
>>25613535
>The other hangup is just that I'm not really into the style.
Fair enough, especially if you are going to finance the purchase you might as well get something that you are excited about riding. Otherwise you're wasting your time and money.
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>>25613535
>I'm only a 30" inseam
So am I. It's really not that bad. I started on a klx 250 when I was 13 years old and shorter.
Keep in mine that the seat height is spec'd for a bike with no rider. There is an addition sag spec. Generally 3-4 inches. Also if you drop the bike who cares. Pick it up and move on.
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>>25613449
helmet goes on the stand by my door, gloves inside, jacket is hung in my room.
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>>25613574
Space nigger are you a transvestite? Whys your room lit up like a titty bar?
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>>25613474
>>25613535
You can get lowering links if you REALLY want, or low-cut seats, etc. You also have to remember that MX boots add like 1" to your height if not more.
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>>25613553
Love the K2
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>Be me
>Be German
>Planned on getting my Motorcycle License this year
>Call 3 Driving Schools
>"We´re full for 2022, try again next year"
>FUCK
>Gotta wait 9 fucking months
>Gonna get my Car license this year then
>Can drive 50cc Scooters with that license
>Scooters are fucking gay

Should I get a 50cc for those 9-10 months, or should I just wait?
Will it give me an advantage for when I´ll get my Motorcycle License? It´s a 2 wheeled vehicle after all, and I can acquire some riding skills, before I ride an actual motorcycle for the first time.
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There are only like 3 MT10s for sale near me and they're priced at msrp with thousands of miles on them
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>>25613732
mt10 sucks
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>>25613757
They sound rad and are more reliable than its euro competition though
Only problem as far as I can tell is the shitty gas mileage and range
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Is there anything that gets your blood boiling more than picrel?
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>>25613778
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>>25613778
this pisses me of if i'm in a car or on a bike. fucking women.
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>>25613722
checked and rekt. when i was in your situation i bought a bike and rode it without a license. only person that rode to my learner's test
>>25613777
nice trips. apparently the gsx-s1000 is getting competitive now. if it were me looking for a jap hypernaked i'd just put LSL riser bars on a superbike
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Tommorow's gonna be a good day, I get my duke back from my accident I'm gonna ride all day
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>>25613867
How can an image both be hot, and cringe as fuck...
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>>25613898
Nothing hot about any of that you closeted faggot
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>>25613778
I don’t care about those people when I’m on my bike. They are usually easier to overtake

>>25613898
>sexy girl
>being a squid
Squid girl images are all like that. Boner says yes brain says no. Not much different to crazy hot chicks you meet irl

>>25613913
>hot woman
>not hot and homosexual
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>away from home for work
>It's been about 2 weeks
>starting to get emotionally distraught about not riding my bike every day like normal
I did NOT expect such a strong reaction.
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>>25613307
idk would a bumblebee ride a bumblebee
>>25613898
>hot
soft skin denoting a high E fertile woman
>cringe
tire paint
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>>25613792
I can only assume the rider survived since this gopro footage was uploaded.
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>>25613942
Often the footage is uploaded by family
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>>25613963
>target fixation as fuck
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>>25613963
Literally steered into it.
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>>25613987
That's a man though
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>>25613029
Not everyone can be a superior ginger
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>>25613987
I like going to these and asking the model to get out of the way
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>>25614128
Luckily I don't require souls.
>>25614138
kek
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>fucked driving record
130$ to put a homolbigated racing bike (shift times measured in milliseconds, 180hp/L naturally aspirated) meant to win global championships on the road for a whole calendar. Get the fuck out of here supersport ban by EOY cap this.
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>>25614155
sir how much have you had to drink tonight, but 130 is not bad for an entire year, is that just insurance? I think you're right give some more time and the only thing we'll be allowed is gay escooters that do 80kph and we'll be telling war stories to young kids about the time we had these petrol bikes on public roads that did nearly 300kph
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>>25614213
it's actually starting to look good again
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>>25614222
It's the same shit
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Had to buy the reregistration for my bike. Just makes me wonder why its even a thing to do a rereg. Like, I registered it under my name already, why do I have to do it again? The only time it wouldnt be registered under my name is if I sold it and someone else registers it themselves. Seems like just a big scan from the DMV. Not just for bikes but cars too.
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>>25614252
Yeah it's a scam. You buy the vehicle, pay to register, have it in good conditions with lights and all thats required, but in the end it's still rented because if you don't pay some taxes the government will take it away
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>>25614252
YOU CAN'T QUESTION THE GOVERNMENT THEY NEED THEIR SHEKELS FOR SHANIQUAS 5 BABIES FROM 5 MEN
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>>25613377
/pol/tard detected
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>>25613080
is it worth putting money to mod the n400 to make it more track ready or should I just go for a 600
took my full stock n400 to the track, only swapped the factory gpr300 to s22. started scraping the peg feelers so I took them off. then I started scraping the pegs probably because shit bp bit I thought I wasn't leaning all that much.
is the clearance on the stock pegs that bad? I thought you could go like 50-60 degrees even on stock pegs
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So my digital trip meter has reset a few times in the past few weeks. Could it be caused by a dying/weak battery? I've noticed it does it anytime I try to start the bike and it stalls for like 1-2 seconds while cranking. It's a 1800 vtwin so I was thinking that depending on the crankshaft position, the starter would be under more strain if it starts spinning on the compression stroke. It cranks plenty fast and I can let the bike sit for weeks and it still cranks strong. Not really a big deal, but I use the trip meter for fuel since I don't have a gas gauge.
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>>25613778
That situation but a negress
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>>25613867
>gsx-s1000
worse, uglier, and no crossplane
yamaha wins again
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>>25613551
>drz400 adv mod
kys
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>>25613157
is the online stuff good? there's no chance I can attend in person since I'm not from US. but if the online content is good I'll get it since it's half price right now
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>>25614408
if you're poorfag you can hacksaw an inch off the pegs or just get restarts from aliexpress. 600s are great track bikes but i've been lapped before by a nationals rider on a 300 so the skill limit is pretty high
>>25614416
buy it then, i thought you were looking for alternatives
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>>25614423
*rearsets
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>>25614411
Good luck vtx1800 anon. When my metric starts it dims the headlights and turns off everything so max power gets to the starter+decomp release.
My guess is it has to do with wiring issues or something like that and so it just resets your tripmeter.

Oh and manual gauges win again.
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>>25614427
are the chink rearsets decent? I don't know how easy it'll be to get replacement parts compared to like vortex, woodcraft, bonamici since everybody seems to be running one of those at the track
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>>25614447
definitely my biggest issue with the bike is only having 1 goddamn gauge. as much as i hate the government, i wouldn't mind if they mandated full gauge suites for any vehicle that could legally go on interstates.
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>>25614421
watch the vid on that page, if you feel like you would benefit from that info, then yes
There's a lot of good and new information in there
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>>25614475
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>>25614472
I actually prefer only 1 gauge, especially one on the tank since it creates an uninterrupted view of the road.
On my cruiser I only have miles, trip, and mph while I have a secondary set of lights below it.

There might be another model with more gauges that you can swap on. I know the vtx series had the F, N, R, and I think C variants.
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>>25614480
kek. Most of my bikes either run a bolt+nut, or a pin+E clip.
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>>25614474
looks good just got it
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>>25614486
he probably meant the peg and the bracket too
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>>25614408
Stock shitbikes only have 45deg or so of clearance, depending how much suspension travel you use. Peg feelers are often there as a warning before you start dragging stock exhaust or whatever too.
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>>25614486
Speaking of passenger footpegs. How do I adapt those with perpendicular bolt on my bike that uses parallel
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>>25614513
45 degrees is how much you can lean before you lose grip and drop the bike. It's physics I watched it on youtube
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>>25613898
Its when you realize thiese woman are tiny as fuck cuz those motorbike are small.
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>>25613722
a 50cc anything hardly handles as any real motorbike.
Might as well just go around more with your bicycle.
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>>25614528
What would they look like on an adventure bike
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>>25613474
Check this video for freeway speeds on a CRF 300 rally, the guy does a 16 hour day on one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcgt1IEmV6Q

Freeway on a DRZ 400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLpTHKKfW5Q

And a DR650

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEWQPJnE9pU
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>>25614408
the best advice would be to learn as much as possible on the 400 before moving up, its a lot more forgiving.

also I doubt your body position is right after 1 track day, regardless of what is scraping.
you WANT the bike as upright as possible.
watch
https://youtu.be/MLrjm84_BOU

going from 400 to 600 you are going to use a lot more brake pressure. The idea that we "accelerate with the intent to brake", was the hardest for me to get over. on a 400 you can practically cruise around the track without being hard on the brakes, you increase speed (bigger engine), now you actually have to work with the brake lever as much as the throttle. I can accelerate fearlessly, braking hard still scares the shit out of me.
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>>25614513
45 doesn't seem like a lot but I guess they don't want people ripping hard on the stock n400. maybe I'll put my phone under the seat next time to try track the lean angle.
I know the bike is capable of a lot more from watching fully modded out n400 on wssp300 but I don't think it's worth spending like $8k to fully upgrade a n400 when the bike itself is like $6k
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>>25614532
Can't you disguise a 80cc engine with a 50cc carcass
80cc two strokes are probably decent
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Does it wear the clutch if I rev to limiter with clutch pulled? I think it's only bad if I do it around the friction zone and not fully disengaged is that correct
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>>25614580
No
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>>25614562
yeah my bp is definitely shit since I've focused more on getting a good habit with my throttle control, vision and line selection first. I was told to leave bp last until I get good at all of those first. I also want to get good with hard braking and trail braking but it's like you said on a 400 I can pretty much get around without super hard braking.
I want to wire up some kind of brake pressure sensor to get some telemetry on how hard I'm braking but it looks like the n400 ecu doesn't give those information
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>>25614576
I appreciate your webms
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>>25614173
>telling war stories to young kids about the time we had these petrol bikes on public roads that did nearly 300kph
Based knower
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>>25614570
As a simplification, 45deg is 1G lateral. In reality tire width takes away a little and hanging off adds a little to the effective lean angle for that calculation, and most corners have some banking that gives you free lean angle.

By the way that limited clearance is why I would never go out of the way to put hypersport tires on a stock lightweight bike, I could never even get rid of the strips on the stock Road Wieners back when I was touching down pegs on a CBR300 let alone the SR881 on it now.

>>25614598
I have a solid idea of how hard I'm braking overall from GPS, brake pressure is something that would only seem important when you start sliding the front or dealing with pad/disk friction and want to see some really specific things.
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>>25614173
I doubt it. Even if they try I'll just immigrate to some third world shit hole taking my bike with me and setup shop smuggling hentai by motorcycle.
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I just fell. Who the fuck decided to put a slippery floor like that on the covered parking lot of supermarkets? What is the reason?
It's bad enough when it's dry but with the storm and the water it was like a fucking ice rink.
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>>25614702
Sucks to suck
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>>25614702
>he doesn't know
That's just concrete with what looks like an epoxy coating. It's probably more durable then normally finished concrete but I can say it would not be my choice of floor.

Any bike damage? or just pride?
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>>25614702
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>>25614714
Just pride.
No, the motorcycle has nothing. The end of the brake handle ripped but it's worthless. God bless the inventor of the crash bars. It may be ugly but it's fucking useful.
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>>25614723
looks like a kawasaki.
Well that's good that it's only a 10-30 dollar brake lever. I find crash bars look pretty decent but I know it's an odd take.
>>25614721
NO TANYA, PLS NO
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>wake up this morning
>feel like shit
>ride to work, white ring around my field of view
>get to work
>everyone sounds like they’re in a large tunnel
>legs feel weak, caught neutral twice on the commute
>can’t keep eyes open, luckily made it in one piece
>go into employee break room since I’m a few hours early
>sit in chair, fall asleep expecting to wake up in 10 minutes only to sleep for 2 hours with gear on including helmet
>still tired as hell, forgot I fell asleep
What the fuck is going on today bros? Should I have rode?
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>>25614784
See a doctor
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any zx-4r news?
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>>25614814
Yeah they’re only selling it in Mozambique
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>>25614814
Kawacopers are depressing
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>>25614784
you need a suppository
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>>25614814
no but good news from big red

>Both the CL500 and CL300 look likely to get launched later this year as 2023 models, part of a thrust from Honda to revisit past successes, since the firm is also due to bring back the Hornet name on a new 750 twin-cylinder streetbike, and expected to follow that with a reborn Transalp before reviving the NX (Dominator) name on an upcoming CB500X-based NX500.
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>>25614860
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>>25612878
Really on the fence about making the jump to a second cylinder. Seems frivolous, tah bee honets
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>>25614814
2 more weeks
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>>25614860
That's not good news at all, they're all going to be underpowered A2 bikes that will bore anyone that's not buying their first bike to death.
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Went the state park but it was a bit slick from an early drizzle so just sped home weaving through traffic
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>>25613460
Would listen
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>>25614876
I have a local, non-highway commute, that this >>25614862 bike would be perfect for
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>>25614879
be careful, MT-0# bikes end up in lakes..
/dbt cursed bike
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>>25614888
Then buy a CB500F already
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>>25614891
>buy some ugly bug bike vs a classical looking one

no.
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>>25614888
>>25614891
>>25614896
or if you absolutely must due to your cripplinf addiction to cock a Rebel 500 which is what they shooped their render out of
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When new thread? Want to post my new bike
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>>25614901
i dont have a cripplinf addiction to cock, thats why I dont want a rebel 500
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>>25614902
60 more posts newfag
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>>25614896
So get a trident 660 if you really want an underpowered middleweight bike that's got a round headlight. Honda don't need to ruin perfectly good revivals catering for people that are scared of going fast.
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>>25614912
lol you keep recommending uglier bikes

I would also make a comment on how they are indian made bikes, but nowadays all hondas cheap stuff gets made in malaysia so 2 bowls of shit only difference is the smell
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>>25614480
The 06 is just two bolts, took me two seconds
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>>25614912
>that are scared of going fast.
when you turn into an adult, you'll realize you dont want/need to be on a R1 just for short trips.
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>>25614926
>these bikes are uglier than this imaginary photoshop of a bike
holy retard
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>>25614934
photoshop based on patent drawings*
realer than the imaginary cartoon child porn you pull your tiny dick to
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>>25614930
I'm not recommending a fire breathing leader bike. 90-100 horsepower is a perfectly reasonable amount to have for an everyday bike. These 500s are all locked to 47 because of the EU, and it's really fucking boring.

Maybe when you've had a bike for more than a couple of months you'll appreciate that.
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>>25614860
They're going to be shitty pavement princesses with an adv beak
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>>25614945
>These 500s are all locked to 47 because of the EU, and it's really fucking boring.
1. I did not know that. EU is fucking gay

>Maybe when you've had a bike for more than a couple of months you'll appreciate that.
2. I have had my motorcycle license for 15 years, and am currently on my 3rd bike which is 1200ccs.
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>>25614908
Stop talking to me like a ride a Harley
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>like a ride a Harley
like a my balls a
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>>25614912
kek eat another penis benchracing nobike
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>>25614960
We're on the same page man. If the Honda 500s made a reasonable amount of power for their displacement (idk, 60-70 horse seems entirely reasonable) then you can sort of see it. But they're neutered from the factory to meet the age restricted licenses over here and it sucks.

What 1200 have you got? I had a Bandit and a Buell Ulysses but I've downsized now.
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>>25614968
indian ftr, before that a yamaha fz6 and before that a 1981 honda cb750
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Had another bike related dream.

>Go dealer
>See bike I like
>Sign for it, get on
>It's too fast
>Some sort of Jap bike on steroids
>Accelerates as if I'm speed hacking In a video game
>Not having fun
>Fear of death prominent
>Want to sell it and get a slow cruiser
>The loan was actually 30k
>Dealer fucked me on a high interest loan on a custom build that lost half its value the second I got on it
>Wake up strangling my wife

Feels bad bros
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>>25614968
They make 20% more power per liter than a fucking Buell
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>>25614681
>hanging off adds a little to the effective lean angle fo
How the fuck
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>>25614987
>it's more efficient than some bastardized pushrod engine from 1948

no shit
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Can you convert a jap vtwin to make the Harley sound
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>>25614988
The "real" lean angle in terms of the speed/turn radius equations is from the contact patch to the combined CoG.
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>>25614681
>that limited clearance is why I would never go out of the way to put hypersport tires on a stock lightweight bike
yeah the mechanic recommended the s22 since no one sells the stock gpr300 anymore but at the same time he told me I'm going to be running out of lean on the stock bike before I run out of tyres on the s22. I tried the bt46 before which is a sports touring tyre and it feels like absolute shit so I don't really want those anymore
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>>25614997
The fatter the rider is, the harder he can corner.
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>>25614991
The sound is mostly a result of the crankshaft design and cylinder angles. I was just wondering earlier today if it would be possible to get close by making some sort of unequal length exhaust to change the timing of the exhaust pulses exiting the pipes to better mimic a Harley engine.
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>>25614997
i'm saving this pic, it'll stop all these autistic misunderstandings
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>>25614814
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>25614991
Just buy a honda with the 52 degree single pin crank and run a 2 into 2 exhaust. Will be close.

Or just buy a sportster.

>>25614998
I think bt46's are biasplys, which IMO suck for cornering.
Every radial I have used handled better then a bias ply.
Love me s22's.

>>25614982
So don't get a h2r, get a streetbob?
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>>25614998
Is it the H rated S22? Despite having the same name, they're a completely different tire than the Z rated tire, specifically made for lightweight sport bikes. They run hotter, not multi-compound, etc. They're very good.
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>>25615007
Doubtful. People think some dumb shit with cars but the stupidity among motorcyclists when it comes to how anything works is incredible.

>>25615004
Depends on tire load sensitivity really, but it is interesting that height and weight have some positive tradeoffs once you get to a corner rather than just eating shit during full throttle acceleration.
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>>25615010
>Streetbob
Maybe

Was thinking a 21 iron
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>>25615024
That's good too. I find myself cruising more than spirited riding just because I need to get to X location and the cruiser is way comfier.

I thoroughly enjoyed the 05 1200 sportster I rode.
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>>25614997
So counter leaning is best

Why is it so hard to find a simplified piece of text listing the benefits of the 3 ways of leaning and when each is best
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>>25613898
its called a trashy boner
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My gn will become a harley once it gets the longer swingarm
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>>25615019
yeah its the h rated one. I thought they have the same compound as the zr but just different load index and speed rating? h is 54h and zr is 58w
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>>25615031
>not leaving home late so you have to ride fast
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>>25615049
>He didn't see the British riding safety video
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>2 years later, teneres are still unobtanium
fuck this gay world
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>>25615044
You'd have a hard time getting the ZR hot enought to give you the grip that the H gives you right from cold. It's the advantage of building a tire knowing that the bike's never going to go 160.
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>>25615052
What is it
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>>25615057
https://youtu.be/DsG-2i1d8rc
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>>25615054
yeah I thought about that. my n400 is never reaching 160mph. plus the grip when it's cold on a cold day is still really good. and s22 doesn't have a zr for 150/60 rear anyway so no point getting a zr front and h rear
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finally got my shit together and brought koomtm back to life after 3 or 4 months. the valve clearance is supposed to be 0.12mm, but i couldn't even get a 0.04mm in. i adjusted them to around 0.13mm and bike rides well and doesn't backfire as much.
however the top speed seems to have become around 10kmh lower and the valve sound louder (but the dude in the tutorial vid showed his exc and it sounded the same). could it be the air filter/carbs from standing around for too long?
also is it normal for the engine sound(not exhaust) to be louder in neutral when i let off the clutch?
>>25615053
:(
i'd probably trade both of my bikes for one
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>>25615063
What timestamp
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>>25615071
clean the carb.
Lots of riders don't do valve checks ever and that's why your valves were so tight.
Had an old yamaha that had 13k miles and was low on power the valves were so tight.
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>>25615053
I've seen a few dealers in the midwest that have them in stock, you have to do some searching, but they're out there.
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>>25615091
im sorry but i really do not believe you. im part of a tenere finder group where we all try to find ones in stock around us and let others know. just a couple weeks ago some dude in the group literally called every single yamaha dealer in the continental USA and nobody had them.
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>>25615098
>im sorry but i really do not believe you.
based polite anon
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>>25615071
Ktm singles are about always very noisy even when nothing is wrong
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>>25615111
Based
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>>25615113
Thanks a lot
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>>25613246
>repro patches
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>>25615132
new
>>25615132
go
>>25615132
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Supertenere vs Africa Twin 750, old Triumph Tiger 900 vs 1100gs/1150gs?
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>>25613867
>>25613922
god i wish i could sniff their seats
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>>25615032
neutral: perfect compromise between corner speed and visibility

counter-lean: visibility and low speed stability

hanging off: maximum corner speed
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>>25614681
>>25614997
>says hanging off
>posts pic of counter leaning
You're confusing me

>>25615232
Counter leaning doesn't increase stability at higher speeds? But hanging off does? It doesn't fuckin make sense
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>>25615328
both sides of that illustration are going straight
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>>25615408
Don't @ me with mysticism anymore
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Why does no California dealer have a CB650R? Shits making me kind of sad as I want one for my first bike.
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>>25615569
nobody has anything
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>>25615569
Just get something used
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>>25613300
BEE
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>>25614702
I had a floor like that in a bathroom and it would get wet after showers. One night I got up in the middle of the night to pee and slipped on the water, woke up with my head crashed through the cabinet a few hours later.

I'm glad I didn't have my motorcycle with me



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