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ITT justify how you hold a steering wheel.
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>>25611831
10 & 2 is outdated. They teach 9 & 3 in driver's ed now.
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>>25611831
Neutral good. Because it's the racing position.
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Left hand at 1 o' clock is the only way.
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>>25611840
Finally. Race technique as basic drivers education. I've advocated for this for years. Racers make better drivers.
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>>25611831
11 and 3.
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>>25611831
Noob here, what’s true neutral supposed to be?
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>>25611831
For me, it's thumbs only.
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>>25611866
Left hand around 10 and right arm resting on arm rest and simply assisting for slight corrections
I drive like that
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>>25611831
Somewhere between Lawful Good, Neutral Good, and True Neutral, because i'm a rightie, and having my left hand up top, and my right halfway down feels most comfortable to me. This, however is prone to change depending on the current situation, because one position does not necessarily fit all, but this is the grip i'm most comfortable using.
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>>25611897
to clarify, I mean left 11oclock, right 3oclock, i rarely put my hands all the way unless i'm turning or leaning forward.
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>>25611831
no
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Neutral good, just instinctively makes sense to me
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9-3, sometimes 12:00, often just right hand at 3:00
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11 and my dick
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>>25612016
>>>/v/>>
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>>25611831
wtf no option for single hand at 4:30 or 7:30 positions?
>>25611840
>>25611850
my steering wheel's spokes make it a little bit awkward for 9 and 3, so i just do 10 and 2, but more often than not i end up doing single hand at 4:30 since im in RHD country. If I'm doing mountain twogay or having fun i do 9 and 3 though.
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>>25611831
Lawful neutral is actually the proper steering posture. It makes it easier to turn without crossing your hands over the wheel
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>>25611831
10 & 2 because I have a shitty steering wheel with 0 ergonomics.
Video is for the people who say 10 & 2 is not racing technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMCXYovkX_s
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>>25611831
I'm chaotic good so I can keep my left arm on the arm rest and my hand in the shifter while I hold the wheel with my right hand, I change to Lawful Neutral or Chaotic Neutral at low speeds and when parking.

I have been driving like this for years, so I can only assume my instructor was a fucking liar when they said Lawful good and Neutral Good were the only way to properly control a vehicle.
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>>25611831
where's the "hand on the hub" position
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>>25611831
noon and 8:30 because my steering wheel was 45 degrees crooked when I first got it and I havent bothered changing my meta.
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>>25611831
>justify how you hold a steering wheel
I have an eight inch cock that's fat and 433 newton meters torque to the front wheels where it belongs
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>>25612258
why is your hand so boney like that?
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>>25611874
this, even without cruise control
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>left elbow on door sill
>left hand at 8 o'clock
>not using right hand
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>>25612337
Same
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>>25611831
Knee at 6 with my arms crossed.
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>>25611831
Mix of chaotic good, chaotic neutral, and the mirror of chaotic evil (left arm on bottom left of wheel).
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>>25611831
Neutral good is goatse
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>>25611831
I do chaotic good cuz I need my right hand to shift gears
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Primary
>left elbow on window seal
>left index and thumb at 10 o'clock
>right wrist on shifter

Alternatively
>left wrist hanging on side mirror
>right hand at 5 o'clock
>no hands when shifting gears
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>>25611844
>it's the racing position.
It offers the most control over the car. Back straight with should blades in contact with the seat positioned where the the pedals contact the floor at full extension of the legs (not tip toe) and steering wheel easily in reach without being too close and wearinga fucking seat belt. Anything else is nigger driving position and makes you a danger to other motorist and should get a self driving cuck wagon.
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All the chaotics, they're comfy
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>window open, elbow resting
>left hand on 9
>right hand on handbrake so it's east to reach for shifter
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>>25611831
varies alot for me honestly, alot of one handed when im cruising, but i switch to lawful good cause it's what's comfy and gives good control when i need it
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>>25611831
5
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>>25612657
This is me. Anytime I try both hands on the wheel both my shoulders end up hurting
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I rest my fists on my knees and use my thumbs to control the wheel
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>>25611874
>oval
Nigga drives a post-war Plymouth
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>>25612264
lack of exercise and manual labor
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Left hand on 6 o'clock
Right hand on shifter (or my dick)
Driving manual
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Right hand at 4 o'clock with right elbow on the drivers door armrest.
>yes it is RHD
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>>25611850
driving faster is usually safer too. I know this sounds dumb but you should see how much nasty shit I avoid by speeding up a bit away from retards driving.
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I do the lawful neutral except it's only the left hand
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>>25611831
>Chaotic good
That way I can reach around with my right hand and finger my (imaginary) girlfriend while she's giving me road head.
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>>25612264
his shrivelled ghoul claws aid in cracking open coffin lids and reaching the sweet meats within
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>>25611831
Neutral Good
once in a while True Neutral but reversed
cus its comfy
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>>25612463
chaotic evil is a knee not an arm, kneega
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Left hand at 9 with the elbow on the armrest or alternating my hands at 6 for highway cruising, whatever makes sense in any given situation for surface roads in built up areas, I would like to claim I'm at 10 and 2 or 9 and 3 the entire time but I'm also leaving my right hand on the shifter a lot.
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I use mostly chaotics.
I'm only evil when I need both my hands
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>>25612337
>Right hand on the shifter knob
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>>25611831
Only my left hand partially on the door arm rest grabbing the bottom left of the steering wheel. Max comfy.
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>>25611874
This but left hand
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whatever feels the most comfortable at the time
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>>25612545
>no hands when shifting gears
Based
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One hand at 10, other hand for the shifter/beating off.
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>>25614081
I usually start speeding away when there is a driver on the freeway who goes way under everyone else and still can't maintain thier lane. Like the slightest curve will send the car a quarter into the next lane. I've worked on a race track and the slower drivers are the most dangerous, they are usually completely inattentive retards with tunnel vision.
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I do a mixed grip of 10 and 4..
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>>25614081
driving slow is far more dangerous as you act as an obstacle for traffic around you
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>>25611831
>>25611840
>>25611844
>>25611850
>>25612011

Perfect thread to see who's going to tell the Group B World Champion he's wrong for "shuffle steering" and not gluing his hands to 9 and 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKnuexGVT0Q

Daily reminder that 9 and 3 is a baseline position and moving your hands across the wheel so you can be at 9 and 3 mid corner instead of straining at suboptimal arm positions is the correct world champion technique.
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Goatse?
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>>25612545
>left elbow on window seal
Based old car driver
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>>25614081
You're not wrong. I used to fly to work doing 85-95 on the highway and that felt less sketchy than than the 60 mph I do now to pinch shekels
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>>25611877
Same
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>>25615085
>"shuffle steering"
literally no one thinks it's wrong, is there anyone who believes you should keep your hands glued to the steering wheel at all times?
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>>25611831
if the road is open either a slightly changed chaotic good, where the hand is slightly to the left at around 10 or 11 for better steering or just chaotic neutral. if i'm actually driving, 9 and 3, there is no other option
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i literally cant find an image online of how i hold the wheel (sex havers method)
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>no ring
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>>25611831
whats one hand at about 2 oclock mean?
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>>25611831
Right hand at 5, left on gear
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>elbow on armrest (pictured)
>hand on 5 o'clock
>ultimate comfy
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>>25611831
chaotic good in the truck
chaotic evil when I'm eating a sandwhich or opening a soda

>>25611874
& this when I'm driving the car. there is an indent in the steering cover in this exact spot that I use to steer the car with my thumb nail
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Left hand at 9 o’clock. Right hand in shift knob
Left elbow not on door because manlet
>I drive an automatic
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>>25613066
Pretty much this yeah
>>25614797
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>>25615339
I guess you haven't been on the internet long or seen comments on most track day/race/etc. videos. There is an annoyingly large group of people that think your hands should never leave 9 and 3 unless they physically make contact and you can't turn any more, and then you're supposed to perfectly return to 9 and 3 somehow in some goofy maneuver. Without fail, every video I've posted to Youtube where I adjust my grip to pre-position my hands so they'll be at 9 and 3 through the turn like Walter Rohrl, some dipshit will comment "lol, look at this idiot shuffle steering" because they don't know shit about fuck.
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>>25615339
>>25618485

I was about to post this video as an example of the autistic concept of "9 AND 3 ONLY REEEE!", but he actually demonstrates my preferred pre-position techique at the end of the segment and also demonstrates the *actual* and bad shuffle steer that I do not do nor recommend and people commonly confuse with pre-positioning when critiquing driving videos. TL;DR, "winding up" is completely valid whereas slowly walking along the wheel is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjOoYjuHhQ

t=:51s-1:37s
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>>25618528
Do some people actually do what he shows in his bad example?
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Right hand at 10 left arm out the window, pull a trailer everyday this way it just works
Backin up a trailer I put my right hand on 6
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>>25618544
I think he's exaggerating, but soccer mom types do something similar.

Either way, people just take the soundbite "shuffle steering bad" and start running around "educating" people that any hand movement from 9 and 3 is incorrect and it's irritating as fuck.
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>>25618544
Found an example from everyone's favorite source of internet cancer: https://www.reddit.com/r/Miata/comments/18xex6/racers_why_not_shuffle_steering/

The flaw in his technique is not that his hands were not at 9 and 3, it was that he didn't pre-position and commit, he walked the wheel through the turn instead. I wish more people understood the difference as I don't do that shit, I wind up once and don't move them again until I'm on the straight or coming up on another corner the other way and need to wind up the other way.
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>>25618567
Funnily enough, his shuffling suddenly got halfway decent as his car started to spin
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>>25611846
I hear you, my right's at two.
If it's open road, right down low.
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It's comfy
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>>25612258
I always drive like that because it's the more comfy position.



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