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https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-groups-forged-election-documents-won-arizona-michigan-2020-1667825
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http://web.archive.org/web/20220111103915/https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-groups-forged-election-documents-won-arizona-michigan-2020-1667825

Groups supporting former President Donald Trump in Arizona and Michigan sent fake documents to the National Archives falsely showing that he had won those states' Electoral College votes.

Forged certificates of ascertainment were sent to the National Archives by pro-Trump groups in each state in December 2020. The document from Arizona bore the state seal and legal action was taken against those responsible.

Certificates of ascertainment identify how a state's electors have cast their votes in the presidential election and the faked documents show Trump and then Vice President Mike Pence winning the slates of electors in both states.

The secretaries of state of Michigan and Arizona sent those fake certificates to the House of Representatives' Select Committee investigating the events of January 6, 2021, according to public records obtained by Politico.

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs also shared correspondence with the committee they had with the National Archives relating to the forged certificates.

Benson and Hobbs, who are Democrats, met with the committee in November 2021, along with their staff.

The National Archives informed Hobbs' office on December 11, 2020 about the forged certificate, sending it to state officials "for your awareness." The Archives had rejected the fake documents.

The Arizona document was created by a sovereign citizen group led by Lori Osiecki, who identified herself on the certificate as a citizen "of the sovereign citizens caucus of the great state of Arizona."
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That document also carried the state seal and Arizona took legal action against the group, with Hobbs' office sending a cease and desist letter and referring the matter to Arizona's attorney general.

"By affixing the state seal to documents containing false and misleading information about the results of Arizona's November 3, 2020 General Election, you undermine the confidence in our democratic institutions," Hobbs' letter said.

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Hobbs' spokesperson, C. Murphy Hebert, told Politico that Hobbs and her staff had spoken to the House Select Committee.

"They mostly discussed election administration in Arizona, the 2020 elections, threats/harassment directed toward the office, and the Cyber Ninja's partisan ballot review," Hebert said.

The Michigan document did not use the state's seal and it appears no legal action was taken against those involved. However, a number of state Republicans were signatories to the certificate.

These included Michigan GOP co-chair Meshawn Maddock, Shelby County Clerk Stanley Grot and Republican National Committee member Kathy Brenden. Maddock was elected to her position after the document was sent.

The Michigan secretary of state's spokesperson Tracy Wimmer said Benson and her staff answered questions from the House Select Committee about the 2020 election and the events leading up to January 6, 2021.
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it was the russians was it not?
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To be far on election night Trump did win those states
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>>988990
I was told this was the most secure election though, I was told nothing like this was even possible therefore no investigations need to happen
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>>988998
When the Russians wouldn't help Trump cheat in 2020 like they did in 2016 his people started getting desperate and cooked up this harebrained scheme with the fake slates of electors in response.
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>>989042
Why do you think they got caught so easily?
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>>989075
>like they did in 2016
Debunked ;)
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>>989077
You wish it was, yes.
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>>989080
>no evidence of conspiracy or collusion by Trump or anyone in the Trump campaign
>more evidence HRC campaign colluded with Russians than Trump campaign
Cope
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>>989094
>lalala this did not happen
As expected for a denialist republican. You people still haven't accepted that Obama was born in Hawaii.
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>>989097
You people had four years to come up with evidence and found nothing. Cope.
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>>988990
Magats start lifting rocks looking for sneaky stuff and what do the find?
Magats!
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>>989098
If we made evidence rain from the sky every single day you would still deny it was happening. Plenty of evidence was found then and continues to be found today, but don't let that stop you from pretending it doesn't exist.
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>>989042
>Secure election
>don't investigate these people
Do you even know how to read?
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>>989097
pfft pathetic leftist still believing the russia hoax despite even the FBI coming out with nothing and the clinton lawyer who started the hoax being arrested. but sure cope more with your pathetic lives just die already.
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>>988990
Who are these groups?
The article is extremely vague, it sounds like some rando sent in some fake documents to the national archives and got arrested for it
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>>989097
Not him but I wish people would give the Russian collusion boat a rest. Of course Putin wanted Trump to win, he was very public about that and perhaps he did help in some way or perhaps not. The point is focusing on it like it's a thing Russia did to the US downplays the real problem that so many Americans voted for and supported Trump in the first place.
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>>989193
Yeah if anyone actually colluded with him it would be China. Trump getting into office is the greatest gift they ever could have hoped for.
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>>989193
I'll stop droning on about russian collusion when gop fuckbags start making up their own propaganda, stop just repeating dogshit fed to them by Russian trollfarms.
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>>989219
The Russians aren't the real problem though, the problem is Americans who unironically support a tin pot dictator wannabe. Russia cheering yaay in the background is pretty far down the line.
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We up to 5 docs now, one per state, and we might be going up to seven!
https://www.americanoversight.org/american-oversight-obtains-seven-phony-certificates-of-pro-trump-electors
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>>989193
>The point is focusing on it like it's a thing Russia did to the US downplays the real problem that so many Americans voted for and supported Trump in the first place.
that is the point of propaganda.
Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
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>>989272
>Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
>Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
This is propaganda.
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>>989275
>>Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
>>Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
>This is propaganda.
right on cue.
the truth is now "propaganda" to the fascist big pharma Democrats in their clown world! lulz
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>>989284
Yes please, keep calling the truth "Lugen-Presse."
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>>989289
Because Dems won fairly and you always call it "Lugen-Presse."
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>>989284
>>>Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
>>>Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
>>This is propaganda.
>right on cue.
>the truth is now "propaganda" to the fascist big pharma Democrats in their clown world! lulz

Up is down, water is dry, light is dark, and we were always at war with Oceana.

Democrats are clowns. If they were smart, their propaganda wouldn't be as funny as it is. Embrace the Kek.
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MAGAts BTFO'd, they keep getting caught doing fraud!
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>>989310
>Embrace the Kek.
this is the way. Pepe to the rescue for the lulz!
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>>989351
Yes, whatever helps you cope with how shit you MAGAts are.
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>>989272
>Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
>Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
based.
ready for trumps rallies to get going again. love hearing him make fun of leftists.
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>>989402
Gotta love how brainwashed you MAGAts are.
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>>989402
>>Everyone KNOWS TRUMP WON FAIR AND SQUARE, but the rich 1% won't ever admit it.
>>Trump is a man of the people, and the rich 1% leftists and big corporations hate common people.
>based.
>ready for trumps rallies to get going again. love hearing him make fun of leftists.

You know everyone will be chanting "Let's Go Brandon!" at the rallies, just like millions of people do at the college ball games and nascar events and other large gatherings! Trump will sing "Let's Go Brandon" or maybe have one of the Brandon songs to play instead of YMCA, and dance his Trump dance to it. Gonna be epic! KEK
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Up you go.
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MAGA!
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MAGAts are the fraud as we all knew from the start.
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>>989033
>To be fair on election night Trump lost those states
Fixed that up for ya.
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>>989447
The rich asshole who would step on your face if you were in his way is going to insult liberals? Wow, so much fun...
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>>990054
This.
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Up you go.
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The Trump fraud is real.
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Republican fraud reminder.



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