https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2021/09/13/bidens-winning-the-afghan-messaging-494304On Monday, POLITICO reported that, despite weeks of critical coverage of the Afghanistan withdrawal, surveys indicate President Joe Biden's stance on ending the war is still winning the day."The C|T Group, an international consulting firm, sent one-sentence arguments to people in the United States, Britain and Australia, both in favor of and against President Joe Biden's pullout decision," said the report. "They found that pro-withdrawal lines drove more people to support leaving Afghanistan, whereas statements that backed remaining in the country weren't as convincing."The poll found that the most effective arguments revolved around keeping some troops to protect Afghans from the Taliban or making the withdrawal more gradual so the exit wasn't as chaotic.All the same, the poll determined that "the vast majority of prolong-the-fight takes didn't stick or were, at best, only marginally persuasive.""Our data shows that the Biden administration, the messaging it's doing, is reaching an audience and is making an impact," said Price Floyd, the campaign and communications director of the C|T Group.Driven by initial reports of botched organization and harrowing images of Afghan civilians clinging to U.S. military planes at takeoff, the first days of the Afghanistan withdrawal drew intense scrutiny and criticism. However, the media has also received criticism from analysts and Biden supporters who say they are oversimplifying the conflict and overlooking the overall success of the operation, in getting more than 100,000 people out of the country on both military and civilian aircraft in a matter of weeks.
>>928252What does this have to do with reality where he extended the war four months, then retreated a month early without warning?Who was asking to stay there?People didn't want to largest military and intelligence blunder in modern history.It is asking a question unrelated to reality.
>>928252No shit people didn't want to be in afganistanThe complaints were that Biden's retreat left tens of thousands of Americans behind and gave the taliban billions of dollars of USA equipmentThere's a difference between wanting to leave Afghanistan and giving the Taliban house warming presents
>>928256>>928258This reframing attempt isn't working. That's the point of the story.
Of course he's winning. He ended the forever war and it will forever he his achievement.
>>928258Why did uncle joe kill that aid worker and his whole family?
>>928252biden has earned the benefit of the doubt from me for the time being
>>928256You mean the surrender that Trump signed and then didn't share the details with Biden?
>>928335No, the world means the peace deal your regime threw out, then ignored their own plan and retreated a month early leaving their allies and own citizens behind without even a warning.
>>928416The Taliban threw out the peace deal after a mental midget released 5,000 of their fighters.Cope
>>928465The Taliban made your masters sit there after May 1st enjoying the Bacha Bazi a little longer before retreating without a fight a month before their new self appointed date?
>>928466The Taliban broke the deal after Trump let 5000 taliban, isis and alqaeda free. They did that back in 2020 before Biden got elected.https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/09/13/trump-denies-releasing-5000-taliban-prisoners---but-his-administration-negotiated-for-their-release/?sh=5e9a0fba419b
>>928252>>928265>>928268>>928288>>928291>>928294>>928335>>928416>>928465>>928476Do you guys have any spare pro-Biden propaganda I can smoke? You guys can't just horde all of it, thats not fair!
>>928482What's it like being wrong all the time?
>>928488Wouldn't know, I don't run damage control for Joe Biden on the internet
>>928476Anon, no US military died in combat for 18 months until after Biden broke the deal.The Taliban advance didn't even start until after May 1st when the US should have already withdrawn, Biden then made deals with the Taliban anyways afterwards once pushed back to the airport, negating your strawman anyways.Who do you think you'd convince with this? Do you even believe it yourself?
>>928496>Broke the dealYou mean the deal Trump refused to share with Biden?
>>928288Stop trying to reframe the story. It’s not working.
>>928510>reframe the story.That is the story. Biden killed an aid worker and his family with a drone strike.Stop running damage control for fascist murderers. Cope.
>>928482>>928490>Any facts I don't like is "muh propaganda"Cope harder, faggot.
>>928525>Propaganda>factspick one, shill
>>928508What the fuck are you talking about?How do you know the deal was broken and at the same time know it wasn't shared with anyone?Do you even fucking listen and think about what you are told to say before you repeat it?
>>928252Wow, they're really taking the straw man as far as they can. Most people wanted out of Afghanistan. What they didn't want was a complete clusterfuck of a withdrawal. The Biden administration has done exactly nothing to address criticism of their withdrawal.
>>928547Why are you gaslighting? Trump refused to share the details of his surrender to the Taliban with Biden. And before you go full retard again, it goes well beyond just saying 'we're leaving on this date'.
>>928252>politico.comYou know... Really?
>>928845Then how did he so confidently know the deal was broken by the Taliban first?It's like you don't care to think from one reply to the next.Why just throw out buzzwords when all else fails?
>>928926Given they attacked, it's pretty clear they broke the deal. Unless Trump agreed to allow the Taliban to attack US forces and their allies. Which then makes Trump a traitor. Which he already is, but this is more proof.
>>929048Yes, after your masters breeched the withdrawal date, only to also retreat leaving their citizens and allies behind without a fight.Seriously, what is going on in America, you spend by far the most on both your military and intelligence, then get blindsided by the Taliban marching on the capital when it was on the new around the world for months. While staying past the terms with no will to actually fight. What was the plan?Also, you're once again lying, they didn't attack US troops, US troops retreated without a fight until they made a deal with the Taliban to wait for them to clear the airport they still held.
>>928252>Pull all 2500 troops out>Send 7000 back in>complete chaos>drumph did thisLiberalism is a mental illness
>>928465your president's a bitch who decided to leave americans behind for sex slaving and livestock. no matter how much u squeal about orangeman bad the fact remains.
>>928258>>928611Tell me. In what kind of world can you withdraw from Afghanistan and avoid humiliation? The writing was on the wall for a long time that the government was corrupt, and much of the country was still effectively run by the Taliban.
>>928252>pol showsi dont know dude, i was just on pol and they seem to hate that biden faggot
>>929091If only Trump actually shared his surrender plan with Biden.
>>928252>poll shows he is winningBidens approval rating on RCP currently stands at 49.9 disapprove45.2 approve>>929237The one where you complete the withdrawal without having to ask the Taliban for help or leave ~100 citizens behind.
>>929250And how do you plan to do that? At some point the Taliban was going to begin their final offensive. The only thing then left between them and the multinationals/expats in Kabul is the Afghanistan Army, whom we were banking on to do something. The evac was going to happen.
>>929276You knew for at least a decade that the US military is too weak the fight the Taliban. You could have started training real soldiers for once. You had more than enough resources available, but you rather funneled the money to your offshore accounts.
>>929283I'm not American. My country was in the coalition, and we wasted a significant sum on the blackhole as well. But our commitment was much smaller compared to the Murrkans because we aren't the number 1 economy. The only difference is that the Fall of Kabul has not led to any nationwide soul-searching like it does in America. We're sad about what could happen to our friends there but we are moving on. We did our best, but it's not my country's fight to ensure Afghan girls go to school without wearing a potato sack.
>>929605>We did our best, but it's not my country's fight to ensure Afghan girls go to school without being raped and then shot for going to school.
>>929606Yeah we did our best. It's a shame how it ended, but we are out now and we are not going back in. If, in 20 Years, the Afghan army could not be molded into an effective fighting force with the help of most of the West (remember this was a NATO Ops), we are not going back in there, guns blazing, to try again.
>>929609>Yeah we did our best. Exactly, you did nothing.