And it all comes back to Trump projecting again.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/us/politics/justice-department-leaks-trump-administration.htmlWASHINGTON — As the Justice Department investigated who was behind leaks of classified information early in the Trump administration, it took a highly unusual step: Prosecutors subpoenaed Apple for data from the accounts of at least two Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, aides and family members. One was a minor.All told, the records of at least a dozen people tied to the committee were seized in 2017 and early 2018, including those of Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, then the panel’s top Democrat and now its chairman, according to committee officials and two other people briefed on the inquiry. Representative Eric Swalwell of California said in an interview Thursday night that he had also been notified that his data had subpoenaed.Prosecutors, under the beleaguered attorney general, Jeff Sessions, were hunting for the sources behind news media reports about contacts between Trump associates and Russia. Ultimately, the data and other evidence did not tie the committee to the leaks, and investigators debated whether they had hit a dead end and some even discussed closing the inquiry.But William P. Barr revived languishing leak investigations after he became attorney general a year later. He moved a trusted prosecutor from New Jersey with little relevant experience to the main Justice Department to work on the Schiff-related case and about a half-dozen others, according to three people with knowledge of his work who did not want to be identified discussing federal investigations.The zeal in the Trump administration’s efforts to hunt leakers led to the extraordinary step of subpoenaing communications metadata from members of Congress — a nearly unheard-of move outside of corruption investigations.
While Justice Department leak investigations are routine, current and former congressional officials familiar with the inquiry said they could not recall an instance in which the records of lawmakers had been seized as part of one.Moreover, just as it did in investigating news organizations, the Justice Department secured a gag order on Apple that expired this year, according to a person familiar with the inquiry, so lawmakers did not know they were being investigated until Apple informed them last month.Prosecutors also eventually secured subpoenas for reporters’ records to try to identify their confidential sources, a move that department policy allows only after all other avenues of inquiry are exhausted.The subpoenas remained secret until the Justice Department disclosed them in recent weeks to the news organizations — The Washington Post, The New York Times and CNN — revelations that set off criticism that the government was intruding on press freedoms.The gag orders and records seizures show how aggressively the Trump administration pursued the inquiries while Mr. Trump declared war on the news media and perceived enemies whom he routinely accused of disclosing damaging information about him, including Mr. Schiff and James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director whom prosecutors focused on in the leak inquiry involving Times records.“Notwithstanding whether there was sufficient predication for the leak investigation itself, including family members and minor children strikes me as extremely aggressive,” said David Laufman, a former Justice Department official who worked on leak investigations. “In combination with former President Trump’s unmistakable vendetta against Congressman Schiff, it raises serious questions about whether the manner in which this investigation was conducted was influenced by political considerations rather than purely legal ones.”A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment, as did Mr. Barr and a representative for Apple.
As the years wore on, some officials argued in meetings that charges were becoming less realistic, former Justice Department officials said: They lacked strong evidence, and a jury might not care about information reported years earlier.The Trump administration also declassified some of the information, making it harder for prosecutors to argue that publishing it had harmed the United States. And the president’s attacks on Mr. Schiff and Mr. Comey would allow defense lawyers to argue that any charges were attempts to wield the power of law enforcement against Mr. Trump’s enemies.But Mr. Barr directed prosecutors to continue investigating, contending that the Justice Department’s National Security Division had allowed the cases to languish, according to three people briefed on the cases. Some cases had nothing to do with leaks about Mr. Trump and involved sensitive national security information, one of the people said. But Mr. Barr’s overall view of leaks led some people in the department to eventually see the inquiries as politically motivated.Mr. Schiff called the subpoenas for data on committee members and staff another example of Mr. Trump using the Justice Department as a “cudgel against his political opponents and members of the media.”“It is increasingly apparent that those demands did not fall on deaf ears,” Mr. Schiff said in a statement. “The politicization of the department and the attacks on the rule of law are among the most dangerous assaults on our democracy carried out by the former president.”He said the department informed him in May that the investigation into his committee was closed. But he called on its independent inspector general to investigate the leak case and others that “suggest the weaponization of law enforcement,” an appeal joined by Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Early Hunt for LeaksSoon after Mr. Trump took office in 2017, press reports based on sensitive or classified intelligence threw the White House into chaos. They detailed conversations between the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time and Mr. Trump’s top aides, the president’s pressuring of the F.B.I. and other matters related to the Russia investigation.The White House was adamant that the sources be found and prosecuted, and the Justice Department began a broad look at national security officials from the Obama administration, according to five people briefed on the inquiry.While most officials were ruled out, investigators opened cases that focused on Mr. Comey and his deputy, Andrew G. McCabe, the people said. Prosecutors also began to scrutinize the House Intelligence Committee, including Mr. Schiff, as a potential source of the leaks. As the House’s chief intelligence oversight body, the committee has regular access to sensitive government secrets.Justice Department National Security Division officials briefed the deputy attorney general’s office nearly every other week on the investigations, three former department officials said.In 2017 and 2018, a grand jury subpoenaed Apple and another internet service provider for the records of the people associated with the Intelligence Committee. They learned about most of the subpoenas last month, when Apple informed them that their records had been shared but did not detail the extent of the request, committee officials said. A second service provider had notified one member of the committee’s staff about such a request last year.It was not clear why family members or children were involved, but the investigators could have sought the accounts because they were linked or on the theory that parents were using their children’s phones or computers to hide contacts with journalists.
There do not appear to have been similar grand jury subpoenas for records of members or staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee, according to another official familiar with the matter. A spokesman for Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee did not respond to a question about whether they were issued subpoenas. The Justice Department has declined to tell Democrats on the committee whether any Republicans were investigated.Apple turned over only metadata and account information, not photos, emails or other content, according to the person familiar with the inquiry.After the records provided no proof of leaks, prosecutors in the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington discussed ending that piece of their investigation. But Mr. Barr’s decision to bring in an outside prosecutor helped keep the case alive.A CNN report in August 2019 about another leak investigation said prosecutors did not recommend to their superiors that they charge Mr. Comey over memos that he wrote and shared about his interactions with Mr. Trump, which were not ultimately found to contain classified information.Mr. Barr was wary of how Mr. Trump would react, according to a person familiar with the situation. Indeed, Mr. Trump berated the attorney general, who defended the department, telling the president that there was no case against Mr. Comey to be made, the person said. But an investigation remained open into whether Mr. Comey had leaked other classified information about Russia.Revived CasesIn February 2020, Mr. Barr placed the prosecutor from New Jersey, Osmar Benvenuto, into the National Security Division. His background was in gang and health care fraud prosecutions.Through a Justice Department spokesman, Mr. Benvenuto declined to comment.Mr. Benvenuto’s appointment was in keeping with Mr. Barr’s desire to keep matters of great interest to the White House in the hands of a small circle of trusted aides and officials.
With Mr. Benvenuto involved in the leak inquiries, the F.B.I. questioned Michael Bahar, a former House Intelligence Committee staff member who had gone into private practice in May 2017. The interview, conducted in late spring of 2020, did not yield evidence that led to charges.Prosecutors also redoubled efforts to find out who had leaked material related to Michael T. Flynn, Mr. Trump’s first national security adviser. Details about conversations he had in late 2016 with the Russian ambassador at the time, Sergey I. Kislyak, appeared in news reports in early 2017 and eventually helped prompt both his ouster and federal charges against him. The discussions had also been considered highly classified because the F.B.I. had used a court-authorized secret wiretap of Mr. Kislyak to monitor them.But John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence and close ally of Mr. Trump’s, seemed to damage the leak inquiry in May 2020, when he declassified transcripts of the calls. The authorized disclosure would have made it more difficult for prosecutors to argue that the news stories had hurt national security.Separately, one of the prosecutors whom Mr. Barr had directed to re-examine the F.B.I.’s criminal case against Mr. Flynn interviewed at least one law enforcement official in the leak investigation after the transcripts were declassified, a move that a person familiar with the matter labeled politically fraught.
The biweekly updates on the leak investigations between top officials continued. Julie Edelstein, the deputy chief of counterintelligence and export control, and Matt Blue, the head of the department’s counterterrorism section, briefed John C. Demers, the head of the National Security Division, and Seth DuCharme, an official in the deputy attorney general’s office, on their progress. Mr. Benvenuto was involved in briefings with Mr. Barr.Mr. Demers, Ms. Edelstein, Mr. Blue and Mr. Benvenuto are still at the Justice Department. Their continued presence and leadership roles would seem to ensure that Mr. Biden’s appointees, including Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, would have a full understanding of the investigations.
>>866918Ever heard of Obamagate? It's basically Watergate, but 100 times worse.
>>866927You mean when Obama found out Trump was conspiring with the Russians?Extremely different given Trump was using 'finding leaks' as an excuse to spy on his political enemies. This also explains where all the manufactured dirt on Schiff and Swalwell came from.
>>866937Paying money to have someone make a fake report which says anything you want, isnt evidence. In fact, the guy that Clinton paid to compile the dossier said it was a load of bs in front of a UK judge. Obama knew this, because his party also helped pay for it. With zero evidence, he used federal agencies to spy on a political rival using a dossier his own people paid to create in order to serve as probable cause for them to spy.
>>866948Nice head canon, but Trump conspired with the Russians no matter how much you want to deflect and then Trump weaponized the DoJ to spy on his political enemies and with Schiff, even his family.
>>866925>Mr. Demers, Ms. Edelstein, Mr. Blue and Mr. Benvenuto are still at the Justice Department. Their continued presence and leadership roles would seem to ensure that Mr. Biden’s appointees, including Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, would have a full understanding of the investigations.Will Mr Pink, Mr Brown, and Mr Orange be joining them?
>>866948>In fact, the guy that Clinton paid to compile the dossier>ClintonThat's a funny way of saying the Washington Free Beacon trying to find dirt on Jeb!.
Cool story pedo-anime BlueAnon. Never happened conspiracy.
Trying to find leaks of classified information should be a priority of any administration.. Trumps people should have tried harder..
>>866991You're really bad at damage control, WinRed.
>>866991Bad try /pol/ppet.4chan has, and will always be an anime image board.
>>867010>4chan has, and will always be an anime image board.Pretty sure CP is an immediate perm ban, even if it's animated
>>866927>Ever heard of Obamagate? It's basically Watergate, but 100 times worse.ever heard of insurrectiongate?It's basically Obamagate, but 1000 x worse.
>>867021ever heard of ucranegate?It's basically insurrectiongate but 10,000 x worse.
>>867025ever heard off pissgate?It's basically ucranegate but 100,000 x worse.
>>867018You must be new here.
>>867018>CP>AnimatedLaughs in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition
>>867030>>867034>defending animated child porn>wonder why everyone hates youReally makes you think
>>867036Do you have any idea what site you are on right now, grandpa?
>>867036Why do you hate free speech?What's a fascist like you doing here anyway?
>>867026 ever heard of Manchurian candidategate?It's basically pissgate but 1000,000 x worse.
>>867010>4chan was, and will no longer be an anime image board as boomers like me frequent it more
>>867046The fact that Trump was a Russian spy is always overlooked.
>>867048>The fact is Trump was a Russian spyftfy
>>867046Biden is the one owned by china if a Manchurian candidate exists it is him
>>867052>Biden is the one owned by china if a Manchurian candidate exists it is himyou big dope, youManchurian candidate don't mean ChyyNa owns tRump!it can also mean Kremlin candidate.
>>867048>fact>Trump was a Russian spyChoose one
>>866918Can you really spy on public Individuals
>>867089The FBI was ordered to wiretap their phones, so yes.
>>867071We pick both.
>>867090Also Trump ordered apple, a private company, to hand over all their data on the people Trump was spying on.
>>867048they didn't care when Obama was leaking info to the russia and spying on private citizens, what makes you think anyone should care if Trump did the same thing?
>>867132Why shouldn't Obama put traitors who were conspiring with the Russians under surveillance?Trump was spying on people for the crime they made him butthurt.
https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-donald-trump-ca-state-wire-europe-business-76af370a04c6d80613c9e9ba1e54c8c6Looks like the dems are going to do a half ass investigation.
>>867142no- that's not what happened. Obama was spying on Trump in hopes of sabotaging his campaign.
https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-donald-trump-europe-house-elections-14755a1573c59c0eea0e46bec596d067Imagine losing a right wing news source like the AP.
>>867191https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/2020/08/14/now-theres-no-denying-it-obamas-fbi-spied-on-trump-period-n2574380>And now that Clinesmith has pleaded guilty to lying on this warrant application, there is no longer any room for doubt, denial, obfuscation, or too-clever-by-half euphemisms.>Surveillance without a legally obtained warrant is spying. It was Barack Obama's government that did this. so the materials used by the Obama admin, in order to get permission by the courts to spy on Trump was made up garbage. the Obama admin. made up the russia story so that they could spy on a private citizen.
>>867202>right wing news source like the APwhat
>>867212Why are you trying to cover up for a known Russian asset like Carter Page?https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/two-4-warrants-letting-fbi-spy-ex-trump-aide-carter-n1121406
>>867214"The DOJ now believes it didn't have probable cause to think Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power."I'm starting to read nobody reads the articles they link on /news/.
>>867215You didn't link an article, it's an opinion piece from right wing outrage factory. However, >>867214explains why you were wrong anyway.
>>867217That's YOUR article! It's the article YOU linked in >>867214, you stupid fuck!
>>867219>https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/>not an opinion pieceLMAO
>>867220No, I'm talking about YOUR article, that YOU linked, in YOUR post, this one here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/two-4-warrants-letting-fbi-spy-ex-trump-aide-carter-n1121406Which YOU linked in YOUR post, >>867214, which says: "The DOJ now believes it didn't have probable cause to think Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power, which was required to surveil him."It should be a hanging offense to post news articles on /news/ without having first read them.
>>867221It is in fact you who didn't read the article. If you had, you would have seen this tidbit at the end:>It was not clear from Boasberg's own court order which two FISA orders were deemed invalid, but it's likely they were the final two renewals. Can you comprehend what this means? It means the original warrant was valid and only the last two renewals were invalid. I honestly don't know how you could defend him since he was literally bragging about his involvement with Russian spies since at least 2013. The only thing that saved his ass was his cooperation with the CIA (who thought he was a giant retard BTW).
>>867223>It is in fact you who didn't read the articleThen why did you use an article stating that Page was not a Russian asset to claim that Page was a Russian asset?> It means the original warrant was valid and only the last two renewals were invalid. The original warrant was valid because it was not the cause of deliberate fraud on the FBI. However, Carter Page was *never* a foreign agent. The information that the FBI used to conclude that Carter Page was not a foreign agent was Steele's information being unreliable, and Page cooperating with the CIA, were *already true* when the FBI filed it's warrant. They weren't new developments, but things that the FBI simply did not know about.
>>867225Page was being groomed by actual FSB to become a Russian asset. This is a fact and is not in dispute by anyone.https://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-bragging-about-russia-contacts-2013-letter-undercuts-nunes-memo-2018-2 The fact that the FBI botched the surveillance of Page doesn't mean Page wasn't involved in anything suspicious.
>>867227>Page was being groomed by actual FSB to become a Russian asset.And they failed, and Carter Page gave a full account of the grooming attempts to the CIA. You know what that makes him? Not a Russian asset. You know who agrees that he wasn't a Russian asset? The FBI.>The fact that the FBI botched the surveillance of Page doesn't mean Page wasn't involved in anything suspicious.I don't give a shit what "suspicious" things you think Page got up to. Page is a dumb fuck. You, who claimed Page was a foreign agent and then linked an article saying exactly the opposite, are also a dumb fuck.
>>867228>I don't give a shit what "suspicious" things you think Page got up to.You think I made this up? Again, he was literally bragging about his involvement and you're still trying to pretend he wasn't involved at all. > You know who agrees that he wasn't a Russian asset? The FBI.Nohttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-russia-senate.html>“While there were several problems with the F.B.I.’s FISA renewals for Page, the committee assesses that Page’s previous ties to Russian intelligence officers, coupled with his Russian travel, justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.”
>>867230>You think I made this up? Again, he was literally bragging about his involvement and you're still trying to pretend he wasn't involved at all.He was involved with Russian agents while acting as a source for the CIA. You may be shocked to learn that CIA sources often interact with foreign agents, without being foreign agents themselves.>“While there were several problems with the F.B.I.’s FISA renewals for Page, the committee assesses that Page’s previous ties to Russian intelligence officers, coupled with his Russian travel, justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.”The FBI, when they filed their first warrant, thought that Page might not be a Russian agent. They later concluded that he was not, in fact, a Russian agent. That means the FBI agrees, right now, today, that Carter Page was not a Russian agent. So my statement was absolutely correct.If the FBI suspects me of murder, and then later clears me of committing a murder, it means the FBI agrees that I am not a murderer even if they started a completely legitimate investigation into me in the past.
>>867233The FBI botching and then dropping the investigation is not the same as "clearing" his name. Again I will quote the Bipartisan Senate Intel Committee report:>the committee assesses that Page’s previous ties to Russian intelligence officers, coupled with his Russian travel, justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.”
>>867234They did not "botch and drop the investigation." They discovered evidence that cleared Carter Page of suspicion. If the FBI suspects me of a murder, then discovers evidence that I didn't commit the murder, that's not a "botched or dropped" investigation.>justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.Yes, we all agree, or at least the two of us agree, that the FBI was right to initially suspect that Carter Page was a Russian agent. What I'm telling you is that the FBI later learned that those suspicions were unjustified, because Carter Page was acting as a CIA source, and not a Russian asset.
>>867236It's not over.https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alimwatkins/a-former-trump-adviser-met-with-a-russian-spy#.qwGOegqoqd>The revelation of Page’s connection to Russian intelligence — which occurred more than three years before his association with Trump — is the most clearly documented contact to date between Russian intelligence and someone in Trump’s orbit. It comes as federal investigators probe whether Trump’s campaign-era associates — including Page — had any inappropriate contact with Russian officials or intelligence operatives during the course of the election. Page has volunteered to help Senate investigators in their inquiry.>It remains unclear how connected Page was to the Trump campaign. He rose to prominence seemingly out of nowhere last summer, touted by then-candidate Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers. Page was quickly cut from the Trump team following reports that federal investigators were probing his ties to Russian officials. White House press secretary Sean Spicer said last month that the campaign had sent Page cease and desist letters last year, demanding he stop associating himself with it.>A US intelligence official said that investigators intend to question Page eventually, but that he was not considered a high priority. “There’s so many people that are more relevant,” the official said.>The court filing includes a colorful transcript of Podobnyy speaking with Sporyshev about trying to recruit Page.
>>867215Pretty sure they just Google "my argument" and post whatever is like the second link.
>>867241It's better than feigning ignorance and acting like you live in an information vacuum, gaslighting and asking for proof of things you know were already proven.
>>867239>It's not over.Why are you giving me old articles from 2017 to prove that Carter Page was a Russian asset when the FBI itself concluded that Carter Page was not a Russian asset in 2020?People who don't believe that Carter Page is a Russian asset:- The FBI- The CIA- The Justice DepartmentPeople who do believe that Carter Page is a Russian asset:- People stuck in 2017, like you.
>>867246I'm sorry but you're just plain wrong.>>the committee assesses that Page’s previous ties to Russian intelligence officers, coupled with his Russian travel, justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.”
>>867245Posting links you haven't read is far worse than refusing to link anything in the first place. You degrade the actual purpose of posting links - supporting claims with evidence you've read - and replace it with posting links you've pretend to read when you have no idea whether they support your point at all.>gaslighting and asking for proof of things you know were already proven.Are you claiming that it's "proven" that Carter Page was a Russian asset? You should quickly tell the FBI, because they concluded that he wasn't.
>>867247>justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns It is possible to have justified initial concerns that someone is a murderer without them actually being a murderer. Why is it so hard for you to get this through your thick skull?
>>867249The bipartisan Senate intel report concluded the opposite, that he was in fact being reruited as a Russian asset, along with other low level members of the Trump campaign, but Page was an asset that was being managed by the CIA. But of course you knew that already and are just trying to confuse the issue.
>>867250Mostly because it's a shit analogy and murder has nothing to do with a political campaign colluding with Russians.
>>867252The analogy is literally one-to-one. You keep finding me all these links that the FBI was correct to initially suspect Carter Page to prove that Carter Page was actually a Russian asset. You're too fucking dumb to tell the difference between being suspected of something and actually being that thing.>The bipartisan Senate intel report concluded the opposite, that he was in fact being reruited as a Russian assetThe GRU attempting to recruit you as an asset does not actually make you an asset. The only intelligence agency that Carter Page served as an asset for was the United States.
>>866918Can we impeach him a third time?
>>867254https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stephanopoulos-grills-carter-page-youre-an-adviser-to-the-kremlin-then-youre-an-adviser-to-trump/>Page told Stephanopoulos on GMA that he thought there was no “due process” in his surveillance by the FBI, and that the Constitution “was just shredded.”>Stephanopoulos countered that wiretapping warrants require probable cause, and that Page “had been on the FBI’s radar for working for Russia for several years.”>Page explained a number of his past run-ins with the FBI, before the ABC News anchor stepped in to remind Page that he once wrote that he served “as an informal adviser to the staff of the Kremlin.”>“So you were recruited at one point by a Russian agent, then you wrote yourself that you were an informal adviser to the Kremlin. So that does lead people to believe: ‘is this guy working with Russia?'”>“These are your words,” Stephanopoulos pressed after Page dismissed his own past comments. “You’re advising the Kremlin.”>“You can understand how that would raise questions and could lead to probable cause,” Stephanopoulos continued. “On the one hand, at one point you say you’re an adviser to the Kremlin, then you’re an adviser to Donald Trump.”
>>867257The FBI had this information in 2019 and concluded that Carter Page was a big mouth, not a foreign agent. (For that matter, if a CIA asset were actually advising the Kremlin, he'd be one of the most effective CIA agents ever.) Again: the FBI itself concluded, in 2020, considering the totality of evidence, including whatever dumb shit you want to link me from 2018, that Carter Page was not a foreign agent. Why do you refuse to believe the DoJ and the FBI? You're literally on record telling us no, the FBI is wrong, they botched the investigation, and only you, some random fuckoff anon, knows the truth.
Another way to put it.. The justice dept investigated leaks of confidential files..
>>867259I'm just going to keep posting instances of Carter Page bragging about meeting Russians, or getting caught lying about it. Maybe eventually it will slowly dawn on you that the FBI investigation was justified after all, and that nobody is saying Page is exonerated like you are claiming, especially not the FBI. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carter-page-told-trump-campaign-officials-moscow-trip/story?id=50977310
>>867275>I'm just going to keep posting instances of Carter Page bragging about meeting Russians, or getting caught lying about it.Go ahead, keep cherry-picking dumb articles from five years ago to support your deranged conspiracy theory. It's what the Trumpists do when they would rather cling to debunked conspiracy theories rather than actually use their brains.>Maybe eventually it will slowly dawn on you that the FBI investigation was justified after all, and that nobody is saying Page is exonerated like you are claiming, especially not the FBI."The DOJ now believes it didn't have probable cause to think Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power."Clearly you're smarter than the DoJ, because you're able to link to random dumb shit on Google. Biden should make you the Attorney General.
>>866937>You mean when Obama found out Trump was conspiring with the Russians?LMFAOOOOO according to what evidence you delusional retard?
The common root cause of all experience including emotions is the experiencer's own preconceptions, own rules, beliefs, biases, memory, judgment criteria, etc. As long as the sense of values do not change, the person repeats a similar experience. The stronger the attachment, the stronger the emotion.How to interpret, react and deal with information is entirely up to each interpreter. "Disturbance of society, words, clothes, and morals" is a self-projection of the disorder of the person who feels it.Dissatisfaction, anxiety, discomfort, scary, distrust, discomfort, and mystery are caused by each person's stereotypes, so it is irrelevant to blame others. Those who give inconvenience to others also gain inconvenience.Therefore, even if you make someone angry, you have no cause for the other person's anger. Conversely, if someone offends you, the person has no cause for your anger.Tolerant people who punish others, have low independence, have low problem-solving ability, and care about external evaluation need manners, courtesy, rules, and laws for emotional stability and self-defense."Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"
>>867276I will take the word of the bipartisan senate intel committee over an singular executive branch investigative. Page was in bed with the Russians. It's as simple as that, and anything saying otherwise is trying to obfuscate that simple fact. It's not a conspiracy theory when it's been proven in committee testimony and documents.
>>867255For what following Obama's example
>>867071but he is, and he's still working for them.
>>867292>I will take the word of the bipartisan senate intel committeeThe only thing you did was make shit up and pretend the bipartisan intel committee said it.
>>866984https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us/politics/clinton-dnc-russia-dossier.htmlEven your own kike sources admit this idk what youre disputing
>>867292>page was in bed with the russiansNo shit sherlock that was what the cia wanted him to do. You know he worked for them, right? The CIA should have went to Trump directly, but they used their own informant to try to entrap him.
>>867213You already forget that they fired a reporter for making pro palestinian tweets because Republicans demanded she be canceled for that?
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-doj-spying-congress/On CNN Friday, former Nixon White House counsel John Dean said the newly reported Justice Department surveillance on former President Donald Trump's political opponents went far beyond anything that his former boss had done at the height of the Watergate scandal."John, from Jeff Sessions to Rod Rosenstein and Bill Barr, one thing was consistent across all of them," said anchor Erin Burnett. "Donald Trump did everything he could to use the Justice Department for his personal aims, to fight his own political wars.""It certainly was," agreed Dean. "And I must say that a lot of people are comparing that with Nixon. Nixon didn't have that kind of Department of Justice. I was just thinking as you were doing the setup piece that during the worst leak of Nixon's presidency was the so-called Pentagon Papers, a massive leak of classified documents. I got a call from the Oval Office the day after he learned that, and could the Department of Justice bring a criminal action for this? Called over, found out the short answer was they could, but they won't. So Nixon couldn't use the department as he wanted to.""So in a sense, what you're saying is ... this goes beyond what Nixon did?" said Burnett."It is beyond Nixon, yes," said Dean. "It's Nixon on stilts and steroids."
>>867161Maybe because he's actually leading a republican rebel terrorist group that wants to bring Saudi Arabians over here to kill us. He literally was going to let Mike pence make a literal lake of oil that they were going to hang prisoners over and set on fire so that they could complete the imagery of Revelations. Just a thought.
>>867464That would be a cool Salvador Dahli painting.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-doj-bill-barr/Criminal charges are coming unless Trump's DoJ can prove they spied on Republicans in an equal manner.LOL, good luck with that.
>>867652TRUMP IS GOING TO JAIL, MAGATS ON SUICIDE WATCH!
>>866918More paranoid than Nixon
>>867212>blogpoast> on townhall> "proof"(You) lack all awareness of how utterly retarded (You) are. Holy shit. Run away from your mommy's basement and join a fart clown circus.
in related news: The Democrats allege that the subpoenas of records related to Reps. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Eric Swalwell (D-Dublin), were further evidence that the Trump administration engaged in abuses of power when targeting its political foes. The lawmakers targeted by the subpoenas, which were part of an investigation into the leak of classified material, are Democrats known for their vocal criticism of the Trump administration. “The revelation that the Trump Justice Department secretly subpoenaed metadata of House Intelligence Committee Members and staff and their families, including a minor, is shocking,” according to a statement from Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the chairman of the chamber's Judiciary Committee. "This appalling politicization of the Department of Justice by Donald Trump and his sycophants must be investigated immediately by both the DOJ Inspector General and Congress." https://news.yahoo.com/justice-dept-probe-secret-subpoena-200803613.html These kinds of actions are exactly what intelligent Americans were warning about throughout the Trump presidency. I fear this is just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine how far Trump would have gone to subvert democracy had he been given another four years, God help us. Watch every Trump supporter in this article deflect. That's all they have left.
>>867890>>867889Trump already surpassed Nixon just with his blackmail attempt of Ukarine, him spying on the democrats and his coup attempt are icing on the cake.It makes you wonder how Trump would have faired in the 1960s given Republicans still weren't loyal to America, but weren't willing to destroy the country to protect an overtly corrupt president. Inverses, how much more Nixon could get away with if he were president today and had access to the massive right wing propaganda machine and a totally subservient Republican party who would never hold him accountable, and co-conspire with him.
I see trump still lives rent free in every democrap's head six months later.Pathetic.
https://apnews.com/article/don-mcgahn-subpoena-trump-apple-russia-probe-leaks-justice-1252749aa9ad526cc01d633949bd9b5aTrump spied on his own Console and his wife.
>>867889remember when the obama-era CIA spied on Pelosi when she was compiling the black-site torture report?
>>868537Did Obama personally order it like Trump personally ordered people to spy on his enemies?
He really scares the fuck out of you guys, huh?
>>868112>I see trump still lives rent free in every democrap's head six months later.>Pathetic.He scares the fuck out of them
>>868638>>868639>Guy who's an existential threat to the country and still running free after staging a coup.You wouldn't be worried about him?
Trump plant at the DoJ just resigned over his spying on Americans.https://apnews.com/article/justice-official-demers-resigning-secretly-seized-records-e9fd00c31fc53f827a8921f551b4008e
>>868787Can't wait to see him spill his guts testifying against Barr and Trumpty Dumpty.
>>867885>TRUMP IS GOING TO JAIL, MAGATS ON SUICIDE WATCH!Get help, sonny.
>>866918so he did what Hillary openly did?
>>868812Nope, only Trump spied and murdered people.
Democrats are demanding sworn testimony from Donald Trump's former attorneys general in an exploding scandal over secret seizures of communications records from top lawmakers and news organizations on the ex-President's enemies list.https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/14/politics/justice-department-donald-trump-democrats-media/index.html
>>868856All of the criminal shitbags who worked for tRump will either plead the 5th or just claim they don't remember. Hopefully one of them gets caught perjuring himself and rats on Mob Boss Trump by copping a plea deal.
>>869041I really hope dems AND repubs drag the process outthe longer it goes on the more likely Don is to lash out at someone for not SEEMING TO BE loyal enough (whether they are or not actually loyal). Cue burned bridges and lost allies all of a sudden willing to give testimony
>>866951>Trump conspired with the Russians no matter how much you want to deflectEvidence.....where is the evidence of this?
>>869118Mueller's indictment and conviction of 4 top Trump campaign aides for lying to FBI about contacts with Russian agents during 2016 campaign. Mueller's report documenting Kushnar and Trump Jr. meeting with Russian intelligence agents at Trump Tower during 2016 campaign which those 3 sleaze balls laughably claimed was "to discuss adoption procedures for poor, downtrodden Russian orphans." Mueller report outlining 11 obstruction of justice charges against Trump for covering up collusion with Russia and his testimony under oath to Congress contradicting Barr that in fact he had enough evidence to prosecute the Criminal-in-Chief.
>>869922Don't forget Trump's campaign handed off their voter data to the Russians.
>>867285Mueller report. more evidence than don has that he won the election
>>871059>mueller report>the report that spent millions of taxpayers money and time to come up as "inconclusive"of course the crime was so obvious that they blackmailed and jailed people for unrelated crimes lmao>more evidence than don has that he won the electionoh? then why send 100s of lawyers to stop the audit in arizona and georgia? lmfao democrats are literally mentally ill.
>>871066>>the report that spent millions of taxpayers money and time to come up as "inconclusive"only Don's DJ said that. not the actual contents or conclusions of the report
>>871087Mueller himself said he couldnt find anything you delusional faggot. he ended the report with>oh even though I couldnt find anything that doesnt make the crimes not realfucking pathetic. in reality it was a 4 year long tantrum by leftists on why and how Trump got elected.