https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2021/06/03/the-wuhan-lab-leak-hypothesis-is-a-conspiracy-theory-not-science/?sh=27647371dd8cThe truth is that the USA wants to turn this cold war with China into a full-blown, troops-on-the-ground war against anyone that threatens American hegemony.The "lab leak" conspiracy theory has no basis in reality. It's just more anti-Chinese racism, the kind you always see both in State Dept. press releases and everywhere on 4chan.Be smarter than this.
Ok, Chung Lee. So, is it also racism when the CCP accuses the United States of lacing frozen Tyson chicken nuggets with COVID from the Fort Detrick laboratory? No?You guys are just butthurt because you don't want to acknowledge something that the Donald believed, because then maybe you would have to admit he was right about some things, at least.
Yeah, the virus just coincidentially and providentially just happened to start right next to a biochem laboratory, right?
>>864773That doesn't mean the virus was purposely released by them.
>>864765>the USA wants to turn this cold war with China into a full-blown, troops-on-the-ground warNo.But, China better learn it;s place in the food chain. USA won't run from a fight when you're stupid enough to bring one to us.Wake up, Chang. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.For the record, BTW, there is a huge difference between a virus accidentally escaping from a research facility, and developing a bioweapon and losing control of it (through deliberate or accidental release into the wild). Conflating both of these cases is exactly why the Orange Shit Stain has no credibility with anyone in the world, other than the mentally ill.I can accept the possibility that an accidental loss of containment on a legitimate research project happened (an unsubstantiated speculation at this point), while simultaneously rejecting some government conspiracy to release a genetically manufactured bioweapon on the world (batshit crazy morons on parade). One of those scenarios is entirely plausible and should be investigated by adult professionals to determine if it happened, the other is masturbation material for retarded MAGAts that live in a cult fantasy world.
>>864774That's really only being pushed by the fringe/ultra-patriotic types who have a tendency to assume everyone is out to get Americans. I certainly don't believe it was a deliberate leak; just a bad combo of general incompetence and scientific hubris.Just because a few nuts are out there running around screaming about muh bioweapons, does not mean we have to dismiss the whole theory as some sort of bogus conspiracy that's out to destroy rice niggers. Unintentional lab leaks do happen...https://thebulletin.org/2014/03/threatened-pandemics-and-laboratory-escapes-self-fulfilling-prophecies/
>>864773> "biochem" laboratory(You) might want to understand what that term means before you Dunning-Kruger it into future posts. (You) sound like a 7 year old using Big People Words to try and sound all grown up.
>>864765Yes, contrary to the GOP's screechings, it's still a theory but it warrants investigation which is why Biden started one to see if there is any concrete evidence to support it. The right wants desperately to pretend it's fact so they can claim Trump is vindicated when he gibbered it with even less circumstantial evidence than we have today. Trump's assertions were the equivalent of saying, "I haven't seen a weather forecast, but it's going to rain tomorrow, ok?" If it rains, he was correct, but that doesn't mean he wasn't just farting out his blubbery butt.
>>864778>That's really only being pushed by> drumpf and his cult of smooth-brained MAGAts.FTFY, no charge.
>>864780> "theory"(You) might want to understand what that term means before you Dunning-Kruger it into future posts. (You) sound like a 7 year old using Big People Words to try and sound all grown up.
OP must be a triggered chang because this just popped up on my news feed:https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-report-concluded-covid-19-may-have-leaked-wuhan-lab-wsj-2021-06-07/-A report on the origins of COVID-19 by a U.S. government national laboratory concluded that the hypothesis claiming the virus leaked from a Chinese lab in Wuhan is plausible and deserves further investigation, The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the classified document.The study was prepared in May 2020 by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and was referred by the State Department when it conducted an inquiry into the pandemic's origins during the final months of the Trump administration, the reportsaid.
>>864788https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-report-concluded-covid-19-may-have-leaked-from-wuhan-lab-11623106982The study also had a major influence on the State Department’s probe into Covid-19’s origins. State Department officials received the study in late October 2020 and asked for more information, according to a timeline by the agency’s arms control and verification bureau, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.The study was important because it came from a respected national laboratory and differed from the dominant view in spring 2020 that the virus almost certainly was first transmitted to humans via an infected animal, a former official involved in the State Department inquiry said.The State Department’s findings, which were vetted by U.S. intelligence agencies, were made public in a Jan. 15 fact sheet that listed a series of circumstantial reasons why the Covid-19 outbreak might have originated as a result of a lab accident. They include the assertion that “the U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019” with symptoms that were consistent with Covid-19 or a seasonal flu.The Journal reported last month that this assertion was based, at least in part, on a U.S. intelligence report, that three WIV researchers became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care.White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki has said that the information on the three researchers came from a foreign entity and that additional corroboration is needed. Biden administration officials also have noted that the State Department’s Jan. 15 fact sheet acknowledges that the U.S. government doesn’t know precisely where, when and how the virus was first transmitted to humans.
>>864783the·o·ry/ˈTHirē/Learn to pronouncenouna supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.Anon how is it not a theory?
The common root cause of all experience including emotions is the experiencer's own preconceptions, own rules, beliefs, biases, memory, judgment criteria, etc. As long as the sense of values do not change, the person repeats a similar experience. The stronger the attachment, the stronger the emotion.How to interpret, react and deal with information is entirely up to each interpreter. "Disturbance of society, words, clothes, and morals" is a self-projection of the disorder of the person who feels it.Dissatisfaction, anxiety, discomfort, scary, distrust, discomfort, and mystery are caused by each person's stereotypes, so it is irrelevant to blame others. Those who give inconvenience to others also gain inconvenience.Therefore, even if you make someone angry, you have no cause for the other person's anger. Conversely, if someone offends you, the person has no cause for your anger.Tolerant people who punish others, have low independence, have low problem-solving ability, and care about external evaluation need manners, courtesy, rules, and laws for emotional stability and self-defense."Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"
>>864765Im pretty positive the US military would be btfo if it went kinetic with china. Even if it came out victorious, it be at such a great cost, it be a virtual loss on both ends for decades to come. Not a chance the USA would want to go outside a cold war. Its why there was a US supported cover up, its why despite it being a bioweapon, or accidental, or even totally natty bro, china hasnt been held to any account.
>>864809Are you telling me the Pansexual Platoon, trained to twerkstep in synchronicity and currently filling the Major's desk with complaints about microaggressions would lose to a bunch of trained soldiers from a country where even the civilians don't bat an eye when they see children brutally killed?Perish the thought.
>>864770Trump was right about quite a few things, but his reasoning was usually wrong. Like with the Tiktok ban. That app is toxic and absolutely fucking up kids lives but he chose to instead target it for petty reasons.
>>864824Yea my mistake, lol!
>>864783It's not a theory. It's not a hypothesis. It's not even a coherent idea.It's sinophobia fueling World War III between western imperial powers and the greatest threat to their hegemony. Nothing else.
>>864869Yeah pretty much. The US has conscripted Australia to antagonise China, although that might be more relating to a coming election than anything else. China doesn't want a war: it would be disastrous for China. Nobody can touch the USA, even the whole world combined would be destroyed if they fought against America together.The US is #1 military, economically, ideologically and politically. It cannot be warred against. The only thing that will weaken America is ideological populism, and elites will confect an external adversary to unify the people when that happens.Like right now.
>>864788Yes, we know the USA is lying to try to get into a war with China. That's exactly the point.
DIRTY EFFIN white devils, releasing virus and killing 700,000 of their venerable old folks just to pwn China.
>>864765What's the point? The Americans can't win such a war. Their country is on the brink of political and social collapse, their military is outdated, corrupt and absurdly overpriced, their "allies" know better than to side with a certain loser. The Americans should use the few resources they have left before they lose control over the international banking system to fix their own country. There will be no second chance.
>>864828hey anon, anon here.i seem to recall that his reason was that it was a security threat being owned by china.i also seem to recall that his solution was forcing china to sell it to a US company if it were to continue to be made available in the usI thought that was a good reason, but a poor solution
>>864765China plays stupid games, this woudn't happen in any other Asian country, China tries so hard to get ahead it gives zero attention to prevention and safety
>>864910It is a platform where pedophiles groom children, gore videos and child porn are spread to unsuspecting individuals all while masquerading as an app for teens. They need to either get their shit together or get permanently deplatformed.
>>864921>It is a platform where pedophiles groom children, gore videos and child porn are spread to unsuspecting individuals all while masquerading as an app for teens.And?
>>864998So you are cool with enabling pedophiles?
>>864765NIH website showed the proof of funding. Chinascope told the whole truth to the names involved more than a year ago. None of it gook hate. When the hate starts, we will stop buying stuff on Amazon and Walmart unless US made. We will stop exporting food to china. We will stop subsidizing countries with money and food support if they do business with the Chinese.No hate at the moment. Just wait for the storm.
>>865053>we will stop buying stuff on Amazon and Walmart unless US madeHave fun paying a week's wage for a pair of poisonous shit quality shoes that fall apart after the first contact with water or snow. Have fun paying 2 month's wages for a "smartphone" with monochrome LCD screen and 32 MB ram. Have fun paying 100k dollars for a shitty American AK-47 rip-off that explodes in your face. Americans are 20 years behind China in manufacturing. Most American companies haven't even heard of robots yet. They use hands instead. Human hands. Like cavemen.
>>864765Since the biggest reaon why its still considered is that china actively works against any covid source investigation, even though we do that kin d of investigation with every new virus... Im gonna put a real big fat DOUBTFUL on that.No one would be taking this theory serious if china was more forthcoming. (Like they were with swineflue)All we need is a sample of 'pre-jump' covid in a bat or pig or whatever to prove it came from animals in the wild. If it came from a lab, there wont be a pre-jump sample to find.Real easy to prove tbh. So why dont they?
>>864774No serious person thinks they did it on purpose, but still. Even if an accident, the world deserves to know and the WHO needs to know to better act the next time something happens.
>>864788Claiming a lab leak as a surety because of a few workers with flu-like symptoms is like claiming you're certain your neighbour is committing child abuse because their kid's got a broken arm. It's possibly evidence, but we don't know nearly enough to start making accusations. Even the intelligence agencies who vetted the report admitted they don't know any specifics and require more data before making any conclusions.
>>865128>all we need is a sample>real easy to proveAre you aware that it took 15 YEARS to establish the precise animal origin for the first SARS epidemic, and about a CENTURY to discover HIV transferred to humans from chimpanzees?
Its not a theory its a scientific fact that the virus was created in a lab in Wuhan. Fauci funded it is also a fact.
>>865138Yes, welcome to the Dark Ages. It's also a "fact" the sun revolves around the earth and the earth is flat. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the world according to the GOP!
>>865141of course the worlds top scientists and experts are not as clever as this low IQ paid Neo Nazi Socialist shill but here is what they think. Rare' genome sequencing almost certainly proves COVID WAS deliberately made in a Chinese lab before it leaked to the world: Another expert study makes bombshell claim COVID-19 has the genome sequencing combination of 'CGG-CGG' Two US experts say that no naturally occurring coronavirus has ever had that combination The 'CGG-CGG' combination is extremely rare, except when it used by scientists doing 'gain-of-function' in laboratories The experts conclude that it is more likely than not that the virus was therefore created in a lab In recent weeks, many of the world's top scientists have pushed to determine whether the virus was leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
>>865137Im not saying they need to find it this decade, im saying they are actively sabotaging the search, why?
>>864908I love this self-satisfied fan-wank. It's so myopically retarded, since literally every shock to markets or global hegemony has had the rest of the world cleave harder to the US. Look at the covid vaccine. Look how quickly european countries went from 'Haha stupid americans' to 'REeee America why you know give us vaccine for free NOW'. Other countries know an uncaring US is better for their bottom line than an aggressive CHina that's been nothing but belligerent for forty years. We had four years of a retarded game show host as president and China gained a net zero fucking allies. Its neighbors hate it, the international community hates it, and it only exists by dint of being a dumping ground-cum-market for exported goods. China is a loser and will continue to be a loser for the next century. It's already scrambling as its economy starts to be undercut from manufacturing shifting to smaller, more globally spread bases.
>>865138>>fauci funded itYou mean the US gave medical facilities world-over money, which they do everywhere. Because we've learned that giving people money solves a shit ton of problems. The Lab is part of a connected university system that the US itself fucking funded after the Boxer rebellion and funds on the regular.
>>864765So the theory of zoonotic transmission via bat molestation is less racist?
>>864873Not Chang, but the US's GDP is about to be overtaken by China in the next few years and militarily we will be behind China shortly after that. We can thank our upstanding friends on wall street for that. They didn't want to pay American wages or build fractious that don't poison the locals, so here we are, a crumbling empire that stabbed itself in the dick so a few wealthy assholes could pocket more money they didn't need. Don't worry though, I'm sure when the orange buffoon is reinstated he'll return America to its global dominance... that standup guy is an altruist that just can't be bought.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-fauci-wuhan-lan-leak/2021/06/05/8469f022-c55b-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html?itid=sf_politics>Trump and his allies try to rewrite, distort history of pandemic while casting Fauci as public enemy No. 1
>>864921Sounds just like 4chan
>>865053>we will stop buying stuff on Amazon and Walmart unless US madeWew lad... that fanfic is worthy of its own anime series!
>>865128>If it came from a lab, there wont be a pre-jump sample to find>much its so easy to prove a negative
>>865163Why is the US actively sabotaging China's investigation into the events of 1/6?
>>865301Actually way worse in almost all aspects and yet is still publicly listed on the app stores while 4chan is not. Also 4chan somehow does a much better job removing illegal content. Bottom line though, if you are on 4chan, liveleak, bestgore, etc. you know what you are in for. Tiktok not so much and while we could argue that the parents who allow kids to use it unsupervised are at least partially to blame we shouldn't overlook the people who are using the platform to groom/traumatize children.
>>865326>Tiktok not so much and while we could argue that the parents who allow kids to use it unsupervised are at least partially to blame we shouldn't overlook the people who are using the platform to groom/traumatize children.The fact that adults let their children onto the Internet unsupervised...
This isn't the first time something like this has happened. It's not unreasonable to think it could happen again. Don't be so naive.https://www.businessinsider.com/5-terrifying-times-pandemics-escaped-from-laboratories-2014-7
>>865351Again, I don't disagree with you but we shouldn't excuse the fact that there are people actively trying to groom children online either.
>>865143>claims it is a fact that it was developed in a lab>writes a couple of paragraphs, ofc w/o a link to a source, that still states it is not conclusively proven.And here is a Nobel winner who has been quoted as claiming the furin structure is a "smoking gun" showing lab origination but that was taken out of context and additionally clearly states that neither the lab or natural hypotheses are conclusive and need more evidence to reach a definitive conclusion.https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-06-08/nobel-laureate-baltimore-smoking-gun-for-the-covid-lab-leak-theory
>>865351Yes, and they always will.Sorry, your bullshit fear-mongering won't limit their freedom to information.
>>865308what the fuck happened 1 / 6?
>>865356>It's not unreasonable to think it could happen again.Actually it is, because the evidence points to the opposite conclusion.
UH OH: New DNA evidence emerges, points to COVID originating in a labThere goes the paid neo nazi socialist shills conspiracy theory. A rare sequence of genomes unseen in nature but found by scientists in the Covid-19 coronavirus almost certainly proves that it came from a lab, according to a long-anticipated report by two leading experts in the field.Imagine being in the 1% of people that think the following is not true, imagine being that naive. According to the research by Drs Stephen Quay, CEO of biopharmaceutical company Atossa Therapeutics Inc, and Richard Muller, a physics professor at the University of California Berkeley, an analysis of the coronavirus’s DNA found a segment sequence known as CGG-CGG which has never been found naturally in any other coronavirus.
>>864765the same people which tried convince everyone the last year how harmless covid19 is ("nobody died, just the flu, empty hospitals" etc) have updated their version to deadly bio-weapon conspiracy.which makes you wonder would that mean the were actually Chinese agents trying to get western people killed?
>>865694>makes you wonder would that mean the were actually Chinese agents trying to get western people killedI hope for your sake you're joking.
>>865694>updated their version to deadly bio-weapon conspiracy.No one called it a bioweapon. Anyone who isnt a subhuman moron was eyeballing that lab since December 2019.
I guess I live under a rock but never have I ever thought of a chinese person as a harbinger of pestilence and disease. They have chinatown, are affluent and either pressure their kids to be doctors or have businesses of their own. Chinese people don't bother me so I never thought of them that way. If anything I came to realize that white dudes have a thing for asians. I get it, asian people are being unjustly targeted and attacked and that is terrible but come on.
just stop eating bats and tiger testicles and shit
>>864765(((The USA)))Yes, the kikes are literally trying to get us to fight each other so they can make money and not have to wait so long in traffic. The trick is to ignore that shit entirely and go to war with them instead.
>>864777>But, China better learn it;s place in the food chain. USA won't run from a fight when you're stupid enough to bring one to us.Imagine saying this while you become majority-minority.
>>864765Either they released it on purpose and are terrorist, or it escaped due to neglince and they are idiots.In both cases I say, glass it from orbit.
>lab leak conspiracy theory = racismthis is some Newspeak shit
>>8651860/10You're trying too hard. Consider being more subtle next time.
>>864765>anti-Chinese racismChinese are an asian race people, like mongolians, koreans and japanese people. I don't hate those. I hate chinks. You heard it, it's not racist to hate chinks. Kys chang.
>>865141>no argument, just fallacies
>>864765>The lab leak theory is a war-mongering conspiracy theoryOp is a retard, think its 2020 and that he still has to shill no Bio Lab in Wuhan, No Lab made Virus.... Bat made virus! someone should tell the cretin even the MSM are now saying it 'might' have come from a Bio Lab in Wuhan, that just happened to be funded by Fauci, For fucks sake OP you are a fucking retard! Its 2021 now.
>>864765The fact that you posted this crap means you have a real mental problem.. You are probably beyond help but you should at least give it a chance.. I would bet a thousand bucks you have a bunch of other crazy bouncing around in your head..