>SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. https://apnews.com/article/michael-pence-donald-trump-capitol-siege-government-and-politics-4798a8617bacf27bbb576a4b805b85d9WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans on Friday blocked creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol in a show of party loyalty to former President Donald Trump, aiming to shift the political focus away from the violent insurrection by his GOP supporters.Instead, it’s now likely that questions about who should bear responsibility for the attack will continue to be filtered through a partisan lens rather than addressed by an independent panel modeled after the commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.The Senate vote was 54-35 — six short of the 60 needed to take up a House-passed bill that would have formed a 10-member commission evenly split between the two parties. It came a day after emotional appeals from police who fought with the rioters, the family of an officer who died afterward and lawmakers in both parties who fled Capitol chambers as the rioters broke in.Six Republicans voted with Democrats to move forward. Eleven senators — nine Republicans and two Democrats — missed the vote, an unusually high number of absentees for one of the highest-profile votes of the year. Some said they had scheduling conflicts.It was the first successful use of a Senate filibuster in the Biden presidency and revived talk of doing way with the time-honored procedure typically used to kill major legislation. It requires 60 votes to move ahead, rather than a simple majority in the 100-member Senate.
Though the Jan. 6 commission bill passed the House earlier this month with the support of almost three dozen Republicans, most GOP senators said they believe the commission would eventually be used against them politically. And Trump, who still has a firm hold on the party, has called it a “Democrat trap.”Speaking to his Republican colleagues, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said after the vote they were “trying to sweep the horrors of that day under the rug” out of loyalty to Trump.He left open the possibility of another vote in the future on establishing a bipartisan commission, declaring, “The events of Jan. 6 will be investigated.”Friday’s vote was emblematic of the profound mistrust between the two parties since the siege, especially among Republicans, as some in the party have downplayed the violence and defended the rioters who supported Trump and his false insistence that the election was stolen from him. ratioYoutube video thumbnailThe attack was the worst on the Capitol in 200 years and interrupted the certification of Democrat Joe Biden’s win over Trump. The protesters constructed a mock gallows in front of the Capitol and called for the hanging of Vice President Mike Pence, who was overseeing the certification of the presidential vote. Lawmakers hid on the floor of the House as they tried to break in, and senators evacuated their chamber mere minutes before it was ransacked.Four of the rioters died that day, and Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick collapsed and died afterward of what authorities said were natural causes. Dozens of police officers were wounded, some with permanent injuries, and two police officers took their own lives in the days after the riots.While initially saying he was open to the idea of the commission, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell turned firmly against it in recent days. He has said he believes the panel’s investigation would be partisan despite the even split among party members.
McConnell, who once said Trump was responsible for provoking the mob attack on the Capitol, said of Democrats, “They’d like to continue to litigate the former president, into the future.”Still, six in his caucus defied him, arguing that an independent look is needed. A seventh, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, said he missed the vote because of a family commitment but would have also voted to move forward with the legislation.Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski said Thursday evening that she needs to know more about what happened that day and why.“Truth is hard stuff, but we’ve got a responsibility to it,” she told reporters. “We just can’t pretend that nothing bad happened, or that people just got too excitable. Something bad happened. And it’s important to lay that out.”Of her colleagues opposing the commission, Murkowski said some are concerned that “we don’t want to rock the boat.”GOP opposition to the bipartisan panel has revived Democratic pressure to do away with the filibuster. With the Senate evenly split 50-50, Democrats need support of 10 Republicans to move to the commission bill.The Republicans’ political arguments over the violent siege — which is still raw for many in the Capitol, almost five months later — have frustrated not only Democrats and some of their Republican colleagues but also those who fought off the rioters. Sicknick’s mother, girlfriend and two police officers who battled the rioters alongside him went office to office and asked Republicans to support the commission.
Michael Fanone, a Metropolitan Police Department officer who responded to the attack, joined Sicknick’s family on Capitol Hill Thursday. In between meetings with Republican senators, he said a commission is “necessary for us to heal as a nation from the trauma that we all experienced that day.” Fanone has described being dragged down the Capitol steps by rioters who shocked him with a stun gun and beat him.Sandra Garza, the partner of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who collapsed and died after battling the rioters, said of the Republican senators, “You know they are here today and with their families and comfortable because of the actions of law enforcement that day.”Video of the rioting shows two men spraying Sicknick and another officer with a chemical, but the Washington medical examiner said he suffered a stroke and died from natural causes.Many Democrats are warning that if Republicans are willing to use the filibuster to stop an arguably popular measure, it shows the limits of trying to broker compromises, particularly on bills related to election reforms or other aspects of the Democrats’ agenda.For now, though, Democrats don’t have the votes to change the rule. West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, both moderate Democrats, have said they want to preserve the filibuster.Biden, asked about the commission at a stop in Cleveland, said Thursday, “I can’t imagine anyone voting against” it.
>>857298>For now, though, Democrats don’t have the votes to change the rule. West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, both moderate Democrats, have said they want to preserve the filibuster.Goddamned blue dogs ruin everything. This is the same thing that happened 10 years ago.
>>857298Dems will never do away with the filibuster because it's too convenient of an excuse to not actually do anything
>>857324Problem is the moment Republicans regain power they're going to not only axe it, but then run a Constitutional Convention to gut the constitution and turn the US into a dictatorship.Feels like Manchin and Sinema are playing both sides and ready to betray the democrats for the Republicans when that happens. Of course they'll just immediately get primaried and voted out since they aren't fringe right wing enough.
>>857392Absolutely delusional fear mongering.
>be worried the commission will be too partisan>make a list of demands to Democrats to allow the bill to move forward>Democrats meet your demands>stop the bill anyway>Pelosi now almost guaranteed to set up a special panel where Republicans will be second-class citizens So they got everything they feared, nothing they wanted, and reminded everyone that they're bad-faith negotiating partners. Is this the fabled 4D Republican chess I've heard so much about?
>>857401Everything he said is literally true. Wake up before it's too late.
>>857430So now after Pelosi sets up the Democrat controlled commission the Republicans can pretend it's a partisan witch hunt. Ironically, their base of cult zombies will slurp it up although no one else will. So it's not 4D chess, it's more like incompetent checker play that loses to a kindergartener.
>>857298Why does this need a special commission just arrest the people who trespassed
>>857441>Why does this need a special commission just arrest the people who trespassedgotta rub those puppies noses in the shit they left behind
35 known victims killed in BLM, hundreds of billions of dollars of damage across the US...free pass. One lousy demonstration to enforce constitutional rights as American voters...must hunt them down like animals. Hypocritical much?
>>857468hello mr false? yes, it's the equivalence department.
>>857436Yet more delusional fear mongering
>>857441Gotta drag McCarthy, Cruz, and Hawley in front of the panel and put the screws to them.
>>857392Republicans had power under Trump and didn't do this. Why didn't they?
>>857487At the time, they assumed Trump was just a useful idiot that would be a vessel for their will. By the time they realized just how tight a grip he had on the party they were out of total power. And now they're (mostly) out of power when he reveals himself to be an existential threat to the country.
>>857401Prove it wrong, you can't. And no one cares for your poisoning of the well attempts because the facts speak for themselves.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mark-meckler-article-five-constitutional-convention_n_6086c380e4b09cce6c143b10>>857487They did, but to force a constitutional convention you need the state legislators in 34 states to call for it. Republicans had control of 33 states when Trump took power in 2016. And their power didn't slip because of the extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression they pushed. And given they controlled the census,they can just do even more gerrymandering to ensure they reach the 34 state threshold.
>>857441Because why just arrest the patsies when you should go after the ring leaders of the terrorist attack?America didn't let Bin Laden off the hook for 9/11.Just joking Bush and the Republicans did let him off the hook and it took Obama to find and kill him.
>>857511Clinton let him off the hook first.
>>857440>pretend it literally is a witch hunt. the worst thing that came out of the speakers on Jan. 6 was Rudy calling for a metaphorical "trial by combat". smoothbrains will say it was a call to violence, anyone else will understand he was being metaphorical (battle in the courts). every elected official involved in that day is innocent, and democrats want to drag them in front of a CNN-ready commission just to make them look bad. does anyone ACTUALLY think a commission investigation would be over by Dec 31? of course not. it's just a drum to bang in the run up to the midterms, something they sorely need now that the economy is sputtering to a halt.
>>857441There are at least 30 members of Congress, both Representatives and Senators, who helped plan the insurrection, along with dozens of their staff. They violated their Oaths of Office and every single one of their security clearances to provide inside information and otherwise collaborated with the insurrectionists.A J6 Insurrection Commission would reveal these people, and the scope of their treason against the country. Given the support on the repugniQon side to cover it up, 30 members seems like a very small number who betrayed their country. It's looking like about 150 in the House and at least 30 in the Senate. Numerous staff for each of the people would also be involved, so that could easily be another 200 or even 500 people.Keep in mind, insurrection against the United States government can be punishable by death. In the past, we have executed quite a number of people for this crime. Collaborating with insurrectionists carries the same penalty as insurrection.There were a lot of inside actors in the Capitol on 06 Jan. They have all the reasons imaginable to stop any and all investigations.
>>857468You're gonna need a bigger distraction. Several of them.
>>857401They'll be "forced" to do it just to keep those crazy Marxists out of power. It'll all be for the greater good.
>>857298>rather than addressed by an independent panel modeled after the commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.lol
>>857514>helped plan the insurrectionhow so?
>>857518was a valid investigative effort this is not
>>857298>Six Republicans voted with Democrats to move forward. Eleven senators — nine Republicans and two Democrats — missed the votejesus christ, how has the two-party system ever worked? if there isnt a move toward a multi-party system, there's literally no path forward for the US. nothing useful will ever get done
>>857513so what drew the protestors there that day? what was it that drove them to bloodlust?
>>857533the fact that the Democrat-media cabal had declared Joe Biden the winner of the election over the objection of several state legislative bodies and questionable election practices. the majority of them were there to peacefully have their voices heard. a mix of fringe right wing and left wing provocateurs took the opportunity to cause trouble, but their minds were made up well before they showed up in washington, so the speakers had no impact on their decision making.
>>857471How is it a false equivalence>>857516The BLM protests were worldwide and BLM riots were nationwide. There is no better distractionHeck it even overshadowed coronavirus
>>857514>You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.
>>857468BLM never impeded the literal foundation of the country. The people destroying property and murdering should be prosecuted(by a court, not judge-jury-and-executioner cop), but they are not comparable
>>857534>but their minds were made up well before they showed up in washingtonwhat made up their minds? was it the idea of potential election fraud? who sowed those doubts of election integrity in their minds? was there anything except affidavits, from people who have no knowledge of elections, to corroborate such doubts?
>>857532The Senate doesn't always pursue such partisan legislation as listed in the OP. The common sense bills usually pass stuff like this doesn't
>>857538>BLM never impeded the literal foundation of the countryBLM says the foundation of the USA is slavery
>>857542so you dont care what caused the domestic terrorism that was an affront to our democracy? the commission could find that it really was antifa trying to hang mike pence for certifying joe biden. thats something we should try to know. if the commission is literally a 50/50 split, as was detailed in the legislation, then what is partisan about it? there's also this >>857430
>>857544>BLM impeded slaveryyou already lost a war over this
>>857542>partisan legislation as listed in the OP.The Republican charged with negotiating the Republican position on this commission got literally everything he wanted, to the point where he flat out said the legislation looked like what the House Republicans wanted, and calling out McCarthy for voting against it anyway. If anything, the Democrats didn't show enough spine to the Republicans, that's where the true partisanship lay. And now they'll see that, when Pelosi stands up the special House investigation and tells her Republican colleagues to go fuck themselves in its establishment.
>>857550>so they try to drown out other threads that call out corruption as they see ityou mean the threads that are reposting that pre-election Senate investigation into Hunter in which nothing is proven, based on a laptop whose chain of custody was fucked months ago?
>>857550two more weeks!
>>857512LOL, Clinton did a shitload wrong but the operation proposed to Clinton would been like if FDR was told what Hitler would do and the way to get him would be to have Jesse Owens run into the stands and grab Hitler in the middle of the 1936 Olympics. It was a really shitty plan that any sane president would reject. And it doesn't change the fact that 9/11 happened under the Republican's watch and they let the leaders get away so they could commit various war crimes in the middle east.
>>857544Slavery was one of the major pillars in the foundation of slavery. It was even including in the Constitution under the 3/5th's compromise.Which a Republican actually defended, because Republicans are the party of white supremacists given they are conservatives and conservatives have always been pro-slavery.
>>857534Why do you hate democracy and want to overturn the will of the people?Say it with me, Joe Biden has received more than 81 million votes — the most of any presidential candidate in U.S. history.
>>857559Biden arrested.All other Democrats expelled. Trump retakes office.Proud Boys take to the streets to execute the Communist left.America becomes the glorious theocratic republic our Founders envisioned
>>857559until the Qraken hangs mike pence to reveal that bamboo fibers form a watermark on ballots to spell out a RAID array that reorganizes the data on Hunter Biden's laptop to form the program the jewish space lasers used to cause the CA fires
>>857559>>857564ha ha ha...tee....hee
>>857570holy shit I need a quick run down on this
>>857566>voting laws shall be determined by state legislatures as they see fit >state legislatures call into question how Biden received all those votes and challenge the "laws" (judicial opinions) that allowed for them>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST QUESTION BIDEN'S WIN HE GOT 81 GORILLION VOTES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>>857578>"laws"shut the fuck up, Gaetz
>>857580>legislation from the bench = legislation Typical libtard
>>857578>Republican controlled state legislators aren't allowed to steal the election for Trump Imagine being this seething still.
>>857588>legislation from the bench = legislation But Judicial activism is what Republicans love to do. It's Scalyia's true legacy.
>>857509>prove it wrongIt is speculation about a potential future event. The exact same logic this guy is lampooning >>857517
>>857298Why wouldn't Republicans want an investigation? I mean I thought Antifa did it so they would want to look into that.
>>857597>SpeculationExcept the fact you have multiple Republicans pushing it along with their legislative think tanks.
6 months later, Trump still lives rent free in the minds of all news orgs, liberals, politicians.
why would they want to prevent the truth that the capitol siege was staged by antifa to make trump look bad from coming out??
>>857621>Trump, who represents the greatest threat to democracy and the US since Nazi Germany still has full control over one of the two major political parties and still hasn't been prosecuted for his crimes>People still talk about him given he's a looming threat.Woooow
>>857534> a mix of fringe right wing and left wing provocateurs took the opportunity to cause trouble, but their minds were made up well before they showed up in washington, so the speakers had no impact on their decision making.So you think there were secret Antifa plants at the capitol, instigating the violence? Why don't you support an investigation commission then, since we currently have literally no evidence that that's true? This would be the way to prove that there really was Antifa at the capitol!
>>857532>how has the two-party system ever workedIt's pretty rare in US history for the parties to be roughly evenly divided in terms of political power like they are now. Usually you have decades-long stretches where either the Republicans or Democrats are the clear dominant party, like 1932-1968 was for the Democrats. Under such a system the minority party is incentivized to work as much as they can with the majority if they want to get anything done. However since the 90s the two parties have been more or less evenly matched - either one has the potential to win the Presidency, House, or Senate in any given election. This means there's no real reason to try to compromise when you can just win the next election and get exactly what you want instead - in fact compromising will often actually hurt you because the majority party will generally get the credit for any bill passed with bipartisan support but also take the blame if the government is paralyzed and unable to act. McConnel realized this when he became majority leader which is why usage of the filibuster drastically increased during Obama's presidency - the filibuster was used more times during Obama's tenure than during the entirety of the 20th century combined. Democrats of course started following the same playbook when they became the minority party in 2016.>>857542It has absolute nothing to do with the bipartisanship of the legislation. Minority parties will literally filibuster bills that they then vote for just for the sake of delaying the government function. The goal of filibusters isn't to force compromise with the majority party, it's to make their governance look incompetent so you can run attack ads and then hopefully win the next election.>The common sense bills usually pass stuff like this doesn'tInvestigating an attack on our nation's capitol is as common sense as it gets.
>>857566Those votes are highly questionableHe didn't get a single person to appear at a rally in Louisiana and all YouTube videos of him have more downvotes
>>857599Republicans hate detaining their political enemiesThey feel if they did the USA would turn into a one party stateThis is why democrat administrations have less indictments because republicans doesn't persecuting political opponents
>>857654They don't want to waste money
>>857570LMAO! That's literally Joycean.
>>857734>Biden's voters aren't suicidal bio terrorists who want to get infected with and willingly spread the Trump Virus to their friends and family>So that means Trump won!To be a conservaitive means you have mental sickness.
Extremely fucking BASEDDelicious demorat tears
Tranime demcucks on suicide watch
>>857565LOL, are you a trump henchmen for the mob bos trump, you're in a cult of con man trump pushing conspiracy theory's about Hunter's dick for the russians, who are bad here, and the q-anon (ironically) conspiracy to push white supremacy, and you've been debunked, you cultist and choose to be a threat to democracy as you whine about shills as you get fact checked and are deranged. LOL
>>857534>70+ court challenges - lost>multiple audits/recounts - no change>Trump's cyber security org states most secure election in US history>Trump's AG, toady Barr, states no evidence of any fraud that would change outcome of electionYet the 2 yo toddler Trump and his sycophant henchmen, banging their fists and stamping their feet producing a discordant cacophony that led to his base attempting a coup to overthrow Democracy and crown Trump King.Lets contrast that with the 2000 election where Al Gore, who had a legitimate bitch finally losing 266-271 electoral votes, yet acted in the manner of an honorable man, unlike Trump.>The election was close, finally coming down to FL, where Bush's brother, Jeb, was Governor.>Gore had appeared to win FL by 500+ votes>Jeb stepped in and threw out those ballots so that his brother George would win.>Gore challenged it to the Supreme Court, but when they ruled against him, he acted like a man who put America, Democracy and the Constitution above himself and accepted the ruling.It's notable that as VP, Gore sat in the exact same position as Pence (who Trump claimed was a traitor and incited his mob to attempt to hang) and graciously accepted the electoral votes from every State including FL.Now I ask any of you, in all seriousness, how can you support what is obviously a solipsistic narcissist with a toddlers emotional makeup who was literally btfo in an electoral landslide who is still throwing temper tantrums when you contrast it with the behavior of Gore?
>>857700The big difference is Republicans have pushed for a scorched earth tactic where they would rather destroy the country than work with the opposition since the 1990s.
>>857734>He didn't get a single person to appear at a rally in LouisianaWhat rally? Just because Trump was an egoist who wanted to hold a rally everywhere he went doesn't mean Biden visiting Louisiana is suddenly a rally too.>YouTube videos of him have more downvotesYouTube's like ratio is not representative of the American populace. You are aware people other than Americans can like or dislike a video, right? And that the vast majority of people don't give a shit about the White House Youtube channel either way? Seething Qboomers dislike bombing videos means nothing.
>>857760>(Dead)LOL, imagine being such a faggot that a mod deletes your cancer from /news/
Sounds like another witch hunt that would inevitably end up at nothing. They could use that time to actually fixing the country, of they actually care or had a plan.
>"9/11 style commission" used in a positive connotationNope nope nope fuck off with that shit. The whole effort is tainted beyond salvation. Best to scrap it all and maybe try again in a few months without being so retarded.
>>858182I think investigating the people responsible for inciting a fucking attack on the capitol is a pretty important element of fixing the country, don't you?
>>857532>a move toward a multi-party systemwon't happen
>>858201>Try again in a few months after we destroy all the evidence Fuck off.Time the democrats start a bengzai style commission and start dragging these traitor Republicans under oath and in front of the cameras.
>>858432>Try again in a few months after we destroy all the evidenceThank God they couldn't do that with the voting machines in Maricopa county.They tried to delete a directory but did a shit job because they didn't have time to prepare
>>858443>Still pushing this lie>Just because you retards didn't understand how RAID worksYou're going to get Cotton sued for slander at this rate.
>>858309Pity is, some are quite happy for it to remain broken.
>>858490>going to get Cotton sued for slander at this rate.He already did that himself when he doubled down and still insisted the database was deleted even after Maricopa County explained to him why he couldn't access it and what he needed to do to access it. That's when he was ordered to preserve all materials for the discovery phase for the forthcoming lawsuit. What a stupid fuck.
>>858537Kinda impressive to be able to get sued for defamation from a public official considering the bar. Then again, Republicans are litigious happy.
>>858537>>858554i likea da make a sauce a firsta ana den da meatballs
>>858554>>858537>>858490>still running the old debunked "muh files weren't deleted!" narrativeNo one believes you guys
>>858614What do you gain by lying here?
>>858615>What do you gain by lying here?What do YOU gain by lying here?
>>858618I'm not the one who is lying. You are.
>>858621Given the propensity of you people to accuse others of what you are doing, you're definitely the one who's lying.
>>858624According to whom?
>>858632Lee Atwater proved how Alinsky's methods could be adapted for conservatives 40 years ago.
>>858634We're not talking about 40 years ago, we're talking about right now.
>>858637>muh ghost of Saul Alinksy>we're talking about right now???
>>858642>Democrats using tactics right now>vs conservatives 40 years agoidiot
>>858643>it's fine when my side does itGot it
>>858645>>it's fine when my side does it>Got itWhat do you think you're doing right now anon?
>>858646Whatever it is, I have little doubt what you think I'm doing is far more interesting/relevant/hilarious than what I'm actually doing
>>858649>what you think I'm doing is far more interesting/relevant/hilarious than what I'm actually doingDilating?
>>858655Not the anon you're pissing at, but why did you bring your sexual fetish into this argument? Why do Republicans always do that?
>>858657Because this board is under assault by delusional tranny men who LARP as women and pointing out the undeniable fact that YWNBAW is traumatic for people who's entire cope is willful self-delusion. Neck yourself.
>>858657Good point. Until I came to 4chan I had never heard the term dilate as an "insult" and knew it only to mean make wider or larger as in "dilated pupils" or a female vaginal opening dilating prior to birth or the reception of a Hunter style member. Yet suddenly, I saw it being used exclusively by transphobic closeted LGBT Republicans. Strange, many such cases!
>>857298Liberals are disgusting CCP Commie sympathizers and traitors to America and this headline proves it.
>>858719>phobic>closetedDecades of these semantics being pushed by leftist institutions have weathered away the moral fabric of society, but still other than Lindsey Graham there isn't a single person to point toward as an actual example to support this line of thought. Using them in an argument is literally just as pitiful and worthless as a one word "dilate" response or anything similar. It's also much more direct, genuine, and masculine to simply use the word you want to say but are too afraid, which would render the need for such verbose and inexplicit insults unnecessary.Faggot.
>>858748Except studies where they have attached electronic monitoring devices to self proclaimed heterosexual mens' penises and played explicit gay sexual videos show a statistically significant increase in arousal for virulently homophobic males compared to males who either supported gays or were indifferent to them.In short, virulently anti-lgbt Republicans are quite likely to be as gay as Lisping Lindsay Graham who when asked why he never dated women or had been married, he stated, "I've been too busy dedicating my life to serving the American people" ;^)
It is no real shock that the anime posting OP is mentally unstable.
>>858712Sure you aren't just making up enemies to fight, or worse, projecting your own problems onto /news/men who actually use this board?I'm guessing the latter given the amount of your lot that's shittng up /news/
>>858824You are not only late for your meds, but you also project your homoerotic fantasies onto others
>>858854>>858932>>859046>>858835>Redditors in full damage control>AgainWhat are normalfags like you even here projecting your deviancies?
Let's say the US does become a Fascist dictatorship. Would it be worse than North Korea?
>>859068Yes. North Korean nationalists are civilized people.
>>858835>>859046Actually it makes sense that extreme homophobes/transphobes would likely be gay. Think about it. A heterosexual should celebrate every male that was homosexual/transsexual and the more the merrier because it diminishes the number of males in the highly competitive pool of those trying to "dip their wick" in the female "heavenly cavern of delight." So when you consider it rationally, GOP homophobes are almost certainly in the same "campy" camp as Lisping Lady Lindsay Graham.
>>857563So you admit BLM are against the foundation of the USA too
>>857700>Investigating an attack on our nation's capitol is as common sense as it gets.No because it is an open and shut case people trespassed and get arrested. People protest outside all okay. There is not some greater conspiracy you buffoon
>>859241people dont just storm a capitol and shout about hanging politicians for no reason. something lead to it, and it was likely stoked by several individuals or groups. just think, it could even be the dreaded antifas like so many republicans have claimed. strange they wouldnt want to investigate antifa
>>861903The permanent government blames it on invisible foreign agents and disloyal media workers. The typical fascist excuses for an increasing loss of control.I can't say I'm overly unhappy about it. The longer the corporatist regime keeps oppressing and deriding the impoverished workers and farmers, the stronger will their reaction be. Trump was just the beginning. A harmless old grandpa with little ambition and even less courage. And yet he could give the impoverished masses hope, could show them a glimpse of what could be.Imagine a true leader, a true man of the people, in his stead. Draining the swamp with fire and fury, hanging the Bezos and Zuckerbergs on their own billboards. With the frenetic support of 150 million American workers and farmers.
>>861903>people dont just storm a capitol and shout about hanging politicians for no reason. something lead to itCorrect. And that something was Trump with the emotional makeup of a toddler who could not accept the fact he got legitimately btfo, and his enablers.Look, no one complained (after a while people were laughing about it, though) when he went through the process of filing 60+ lawsuits, multiple recounts and independent audits during the time period between the election and required date mandated by the Constitution for the electoral votes to be certified by the states and accepted by the US Congress. (Not even bringing up his conspiracy to committ election fraud when he attempted to extort Raffensperger to manufacture the 11,000+ votes he needed to win GA). After all of those legal remedies were exhausted, however, he and his enablers took it to the brink to attempt to prevent those legally certified electoral votes (remember - court challenged, audited, reaudited, counted, recounted multiple times, certified by the states) and fired up a mob to do just that violently with the kind of rhetoric he and his enablers knew would work. And unbelievably, he and his minions ARE STILL PROMOTING THE BIG LIE 7 MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION, 4 MONTHS AFTER THE INAUGURATION! Contrast that "thing" you worship with Al Gore in 2000. Which one believes in America and which one believes only in himself?
>>861939And, the 2020 election in reality wasn't even close compared to other disputed elections.
>>861903>strange they wouldnt want to investigate antifaWhy is that strange? What reason would there be to investigate something that has nothing to do with the January 6th and the Republican politicians who caused it?
If the Republicans actually cared they would propose a separate commission to investigate political violence in America that would, presumably, cover antifa as well, white nationalists, et cetera.Attempting to shove it into the January 6 investigation is dumb as shit.
>>861950The reason they did that was so they could spend their time distracting from the Jan 6 coup so their propaganda outlets would have other things to report when the commission was in session. That's why they had to kill the commission after democrats refused to concede on that even after surrendering on all the other demands by Republicans.
>>861950We now found out that Republicans would have put Gym Jordon and Greene on the committee.This is like putting members of Al Qaeda on the 9/11 commission.
>>864977I agree, this is exactly like placing non-US citizens onto a congressional commission.
Thank you faggots for turning this board into r/politics.
>>865023Blame whoever is posting these news, there's no way for it not to get political with OPs like this.
>>861943>>861939despite what you say being true, thats not a way to find common ground for support of an investigation
>>857298lol why do y'all need a fucking commission the whole thing was televised we all saw what happened xD
The (unnecessarily bipartisan) commission was the last chance to save the Bush wing of the Republican party as the 'true' representatives of the American right wing. Deal: Shove the Trump wing/far right under the bus in court and we will pretend you're legitimate and innocent. A generous offer, but a typically out of touch one by the blue dogs Biden represented for decades.McConnell and Co believe Dems will defend the honor of the Republican party elite anyway so there is nothing in it for him or his party; only downside.However, what no one wants to face is that the Democratic party is now the home of the right wing of American politics and the resurrected left will burst out of its chest sometime in the next two, four, or six years as a new and independent party in fact if not in name. This can only be obviated by accomplishing policy goals as Bismarck did to reduce tension.Biden and the corporate Dems will never do anything so sensible and backed up by historical precedent. So they are now to be considered the right wing.
>>857298>54 votes to 35.Majority wins, still loses. This is the world leader in Democracy folks!
>>865023It's literally one guy posting most of these, as you can tell by his pedo anime posts
>>865606Hi anti anime shill.
>>865606How many anime dolls do you own to use and abuse?
>>865669All of them.
>>865606Based, the pedophile is known to the police for his crimes against children. There are even links to pics of the creepy pedo on reddit and a copy of his police record.
>>865682>comes to a site full of pedophiles>thinks there is only one???
>>865686Are you trying to tell us something are you one, or isnt it that you are the one the anon is talking about, are you the one who has been made and has he pic on reddit, god you are ugly, your sad eyes look haunted. The shame! does it make you want to kill yourself?
>>865600Tyranny of the permanent minority. It's what Republicans are to turn this country into.
>>866739Better the minority gets a voice in politics than they get trampled by the uncaring majority. At least that is what civil rights used to be about.
You retards really do have your own version of reality.
This country is irreparably fucked. Two retarded fake political parties fighting nonstop over trivial bull crap while both parties are actively devouring all of humanity and completely erasing the middle class. Fuck. This. Country.
>>866760yes, it's all downhill from here.
>>866756There's a difference between having a voice and being able to permanently obstruct any and all legislation.
>>866896No, that's exactly what "having a voice in politics" means.
>>866897Wrong, a functional democracy gives the minority input in forming legislation so that it helps the most people. Republicans have opted to obstruct everything and only negotiate in bad faith.
I despise today's Rethuglicans and wish the Left would grow some ovaries. All politicians are in it for their corporations and special interest groups. Mail in ballots are needed in every state!!
>>857298>schumer hasnt killed the filibusternow THIS is cuckoldry
>>857298You get a Jan6 commission once we get a MayJunJulAug commission.
>>865600Democracy is garbage. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."