[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip / qa] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/news/ - Current News

[Advertise on 4chan]

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.
  • There are 37 posters in this thread.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor applications are now closed. Thank you to everyone who applied!

New board added: /xs/ - Extreme Sports

Self-serve ads are available again! Check out our new advertising page here.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: newsom and porky.png (625 KB, 992x662)
625 KB
625 KB PNG
The effort to recall Gov. Newsom of California has collected the necessary number of signatures to appear on the ballot. A few hundred thousand more are expected to be collected

It is expected that the State Secretary will consider to be invalid a total sum of signatures such that it will not meet the minimum threshold.

https://mercedcountytimes.com/recall-gov-newsom-effort-meets-minimum-threshold-1-5-million-signatures/

fter one year of massive volunteer efforts, Recall Gavin 2020 reached a milestone on Feb. 11 — 1.5 million signatures attached to recall petitions which is the minimum threshold to trigger a special election.

Will the recall effort be successful?

“We’re operational in every county,” said Anne Dunsmore, campaign manager of Rescue California, an auxiliary organization supporting the statewide effort. “Recall Gavin 2020 is the original Petitioner, and they turn in the signatures weekly to each county’s Registrar of Voters. It started a year ago. We’re at 1.5 million signatures [as of Feb. 11], and we need 1.8 million at a minimum because at least 1.5 million have to be 100 percent valid.

“We have until March 17 to do it.

“We’ll probably have them turned in a week before that.

“Our goal is 2 million because that way, we’ll be sure to get at least 1.5 million valid signatures.

“There are issues like you have to be a registered voter; if you don’t sign in blue or black ink, it’s not valid; and if you put a different address than your address as a registered voter, it’s not valid. if you don't vote democrat, its not valid. If you write too messy, its not valid. If you share a name with someone else in the state, its not valid."
>>
Local efforts picking up steam

Volunteers in the Merced area are holding “Recall Governor Gavin Newsom” signature-gathering events every Tuesday and Saturday from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. in Merced.

At a table set up in the Walgreens parking lot at the corner of G Street and Olive Avenue in Merced, volunteers handed out a two-page list of the reasons why people wish to recall Governor Newsom.

On the list were things such as mandatory mail-in voting, ongoing shutdowns, loss of small businesses, loss of jobs, highest homeless rate in our nation, highest poverty rate in the nation, countless gun and ammo laws, teachers can no longer discipline disruptive students, government overreach, forced lockdowns preventing the right to worship and sing in church, fighting to stop Central Valley farmers from getting the water they need, highest state income tax in our nation, and many more.

Many investors relocating from Silicon Valley are moving to states that don’t tax personal income, like Florida, Texas and Washington.

Hewlett Packard Enterprise announced in December 2020 it was moving its headquarters to Houston, following in the footsteps of Oracle and Tesla, which are moving some operations to Austin. Tesla CEO Elon Musk revealed he had personally moved to Texas after becoming disillusioned with California.

Vicki Graham, a key local volunteer, greeted citizens interested in signing the recall petition.

She told the Times, “We have been doing this since July, but not steadily. My top reasons for the recall are Governor Newsom has driven businesses out of the state due to regulations and high taxes, and he has killed jobs when the businesses left the state and the workers had no jobs.

“This is a citizen thing, not a party thing.”

“We have gotten about 2,000 signatures in all. March 10 is the last day we can turn in the recall petitions to the county. The county verifies the signatures and sends in the count to the California Secretary of State.
>>
How did the recall effort start?

Dunsmore informed the Times, “It started with Governor Newsom’s support for issues that didn’t really reflect the views of the voters, such as closing 20 prisons and letting prisoners out while the crime rates are going up. He limited Thanksgiving celebrations to no more than two households under one roof and said you should wear your masks between bites, and then there were pictures of Gavin Newsom eating dinner at the French Laundry in Napa shoulder to shoulder with a group of people, wearing no masks; he basically said he was outside, and then another person took pictures and he was not outside. He got caught in his hypocrisy.

“The jobless rates, homeless rates and vaccine roll out are the worst in the country. This isn’t acceptable for the governor of the 10th largest economy in the world and the largest state in the country.

“Taking on a recall is a big job, especially of the governor. This is the third effort; the first two did not do well, but they learned a lot. A lot of the people who are running the show now are veterans of the first two efforts, and they put together an impressive operation with volunteers. It will probably go down in history as the largest volunteer signature gathering effort in the history of the United States.

“They’re getting bullied and profiled, but the movement has 2 million signers and there’s no label you can wrap around all of them.

“The people doing this are a broad spectrum of folks.

“They might have lost their jobs, their taxes were too high, and a number of things fueled the fire, and there are a massive number of people who care very much about these things and are not going to take it any more.

“A number of retired people wanted to be near their children, and they’re going to have to uproot and move to Arizona.
>>
“You have a governor saying your home burned down because of climate issues, but he didn’t engage in forest management. Don’t tell me the largest wildfires in history are because of climate change.
>You have a governor saying your home burned down because of climate issues when the utility company managed by the state is currently getting sued for nearly 100 deaths and burning down an entire fucking town

“He does not know what the citizens of this State are suffering through. He is completely out of touch with it. By throwing political rhetoric on it, it’s like throwing salt on an open wound.

“One thing that happened is $31 billion out of $155 billion of job benefits for 2021 were absorbed by fraudulent claims, which is 20 percent. This money was lost last year. There were crime rings that started in prison, and $1,700 of claims were paid to people at the same address.”
>>
>>794711
>“One thing that happened is $31 billion out of $155 billion of job benefits for 2021 were absorbed by fraudulent claims,
>“One thing that happened is $31 billion out of $155 billion of job benefits for 2021 were absorbed by fraudulent claims,
>“One thing that happened is $31 billion out of $155 billion of job benefits for 2021 were absorbed by fraudulent claims

Who will run for governor of California if the recall is successful?

“Candidates have already been declared. There are going to be two things on the ballot, the re-call and the replacement. So far, those on the ballot are Kevin Faulconer, Republican, former mayor of San Francisco, and John Cox, the Republican candidate in the election that Newsom won.”

Republicans haven’t won a statewide election in California since 2006 when Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was re-elected.
>>
>>794704
Nice image.
>>794712
It sounded like you were asking a question. I see that you are not.

Anyways, I highly doubt the state will let this happen.
The state secretary is not a fair gamer
>>
Didn’t this guy campaign against a rent control bill despite his state being massively expensive to live in
>>
So how many billions will be wasted because of what the Republicans demanding a scalp?
>>
4$ a gallon for gas. None of it will ever go to fixing roads or homeless issues in sf bay and LA. Atleast gavins winery is doing fantastic and getting millions in aid because they’re essential
>>
>>794731
>>794764
Hence, newsom in porky's lapdog
This is what you get when an area I controlled by a single political power for so long.
Corruption and leaders that don't work for people
>>794748
Chang, work on your English, it's poor
Ask emperor xi to give you a raise
>>
>>794764
worst homeless pop in the US, and worst cost of building roads. the money lines the politicians pockets
>>
>>794764
where? in LA Im paying 3.09.

idk much about Newsom, though. we could probably use someone else to run the show
>>
>>794764
Alcohol is literally poison, how can it be considered essential?
>>
>>794879
California's leadership lining their pockets.
Quite normal in this state
>>
Mention partisan politics and you lose, you overgrown fanboys

Why does Newsom need to be recalled? Given that every single state has failed Corona containment procedures, what has he done that is especially horrible, so much so that we can not wait until his re-election?
>>
>On the list were things such as mandatory mail-in voting, ongoing shutdowns, loss of small businesses, loss of jobs, highest homeless rate in our nation, highest poverty rate in the nation, countless gun and ammo laws, teachers can no longer discipline disruptive students, government overreach, forced lockdowns preventing the right to worship and sing in church, fighting to stop Central Valley farmers from getting the water they need, highest state income tax in our nation, and many more.

These are bullshit, middle American-Mom reasons. Half of these reasons existed before Newsom was even governor. This is just butt hurt republicans who want to install a Republican in office because they secretly want to be autocrats like the Russians
>>
>>794873
I'm in norcal, paying a little less here, ~$3.00
But yeah, I agree. I visited Denver not too long ago and holy shit, that state was managed 100x better than California was for covid
I mean shit bro, I dunno what it's like down there but I'd say 2/3 of businesses are still closed up here or permanently out of business due to the riots back in march
>>
>>794885
Horribly mismanaged the state for covid.
Period.
Every state I've visited (5) since covid are in a million times better shape.

He's changed his covid policy 3x, they sucked and its somewhat better but still sucks.

I believed he moved onto a color system and then finally a color system based upon percentage of open hospital beds (a solid metric) rather than his gut instinct, which the first few tries were and those failed horribly

Why are you so Bútthürt? Mention politics and you lose, you overprogrammed shill masquerading as a thinking human
>>
>>794890
how far north? in Humboldt I could see places not surviving any shutdown due to low traffic to begin with, or in SF not surviving due to incredibly high cost of real estate. Idk which places had big riots that might cause closures like that though
>>
>>794893
Im mentioning politics because I don't see democrats clamouring to get him removed from office. I'm concerned that the Republicans in this state woild gave demanded that ANY democratic governor be recalled, and woild make up any reason why. Before you start assuming and name calling like a paid shill yourself, of he to be recalled, Id ssume there will be some and independents that are against him, in the same way that there are some republicans who are against trump (who was nearly removed himself.) I don't see any one specific acttion done by Newsom that hasn't also been done by any given governor in any other state.

What I'm trying to ask before your low t makes you spend out again, does his covid response warrant him to be removed from office? He definitely flip flopped, but if he deserved to be recalled, than don't half of the other governors in the state as well?
>>
>>794902
>Im mentioning politics because I don't see democrats clamouring to get him removed from office.
well, thats politics my friendo
> I'm concerned that the Republicans in this state woild gave demanded that ANY democratic governor be recalled, and woild make up any reason why
once again thats politics
>Before you start assuming and name calling like a paid shill yourself, of he to be recalled, Id ssume there will be some and independents that are against him, in the same way that there are some republicans who are against trump (who was nearly removed himself.)
I'm not sure we get insight into the demographics of the signatories.
*but*
I am independant myself. didnt mind our last Gov, Brown. Didnt mind Schwarzenegger (sp?)
I dont belive that Newsom has done a good job at all during covid, and I am reinforced in my belief after traveling to other post-covid states.

>does his covid response warrant him to be removed from office?
I absolutely believe so.
> He definitely flip flopped, but if he deserved to be recalled, than don't half of the other governors in the state as well?
states only have one governor.
other states, yeah probably.

Also, the recall only forces a vote by the populace. I am somewhat skeptical as to the outcome of this vote.
But, last time this happened in 06 or so it was successful
>>
>>794879
They argued that giving alcoholics access to alcohol reduces domestic abuse.
>>
I know you fuckers here at News aren't as adept at handling political issues than the experts, but I'll lay things out for you with the best data available.

>>794885
>Why?
According to the voters,
Covid response. 31 percent approval.
Jobs/Economy. 23 percent approval.
Balancing public health with workers/economy. 27 percent approval.

>>794902
>Im mentioning politics because I don't see democrats clamouring to get him removed from office.
He's from one of the most powerful political families in the entire country. Challenging him openly would be suicidal. He still has strong democrat approval.

Keep in mind this street goes both ways. He actively sought out policies that were extremely unpopular with small biz owners, rural people, and other generally republican groups.

Other democrats, like say, Senator Padilla, have a much higher rating across the board.

>>794887
There is a political partisan aspect, but it's not just the R's. You don't get to a 46 percent approval rating without a bunch of the D's along for the ride as well. Also keep in mind the super far left is a risk to Newsome as well.

>>794873
That's cheaper than costco here at 3.12. The name brand regular is 3.70 or more. Between LB and LA. here.

Prices are depressed because of Covid, but regardless, it's routinely competing for the highest prices in the contiguous US.
>>
>>794798
So you admit Republicans are wasting billions of dollars in subverting the will of the people.
>>
>>794985
LOL. How the FUCK did you come up with that conclusion?
>>
>>794985
Well, millions. Don't think recall elections cost billions, even in Commiefornia.

Really surprised Cali didn't get rid of this process after it fucked the state so hard the last time.

Anyone know if the elections end of it changed? Or are they going to end up with every old Hollywood and sitcom star running against each other again, only to have a killer time traveling cyborg deliberately bankrupt to state under a "you must crash the car before you can fix it" philosophy?

>>794798
>Hence, newsom in porky's lapdog
As is the state, the nation, and the guy who started the recall, what's your point?
>>
>>794979
>>794988
These people I swear are 5 cent party changposters
It's not that they are liberal, it's that they are posting negatively against who dictator Xi tells them to post negatively about.
Many times their shit doesn't make sense. At all. It's just a left field attack on conservatives.

It's either that or they are overprogrammed NPC's, because I refuse to believe that we have that many idiots in this country
>>
>>794997
>Really surprised Cali didn't get rid of this process after it fucked the state so hard the last time.
Any lawmaker that even THOUGHT about removing the recall, would be recalled.
>>
>>795000
>Any lawmaker that even THOUGHT about removing the recall, would be recalled.
I'm California?
Maybe at one time.
But now?
I'm skeptical
>>
>>795000
I do recall some talking about it, so no...

But one would think they'd at least make it require more than 5% of the population.

Commiefornia has long had a problem with its democracy being far too easy to externally fuck with - but Utah's effort in that regard is why we have nation wide gay marriage now, so I guess sometimes it works out to the blue's advantage, in the long run.

Plus that fubar the governorator did, when he deliberately bankrupted the state, and admitted to it, pretty much guaranteed no one would ever vote for a red governor in Cali again, despite once being ruled over by both Reagan and Pete Wilson.
>>
>>795008
>Commiefornia has long had a problem with its democracy being far too easy to externally fuck with -
Better the state just stop allowing people to vote altogether, really
>>
>>794997
Last recall cost 40 mill. Election rules haven't changed. A big part of the recall procedures was to give a gigantic middle finger to the political parties that control the primary system.

It's quite hard to get 12 percent of the entire voting population to get off their asses and sign up for this thing. You need to actively piss off significant parts of the electorate. After all, there's a very real risk that whoever comes next would be worse for them.

He could get pinched on the left by his own campaign promises, for another.

>>795008
>But one would think they'd at least make it require more than 5% of the population.
Short sighted thinking from people who have institutional control and think they'll never lose it.

>Commiefornia has long had a problem with its democracy being far too easy to externally fuck with - but Utah's effort in that regard is why we have nation wide gay marriage now, so I guess sometimes it works out to the blue's advantage, in the long run.
CA wants lots of ways to participate.

>Plus that fubar the governorator did, when he deliberately bankrupted the state, and admitted to it,
What? The governor doesn't set the state budget. That's legislative.

>pretty much guaranteed no one would ever vote for a red governor in Cali again, despite once being ruled over by both Reagan and Pete Wilson.
I would posit that Reagan's amnesty probably had more to do with the current shift.

But more importantly, it's a mistake to get caught up in team blue/team red games. We're in a very volatile time, and I suspect things may shift in a hurry in unexpected ways.
>>
Newsom is dogshit, but some of the Republicans cheerleading this recall the loudest are even more dogshit than him, so I don't know how I'm going to vote on this one.
>>
>>795032
My calculus. Is a random democrat better than newsome? I like my odds.
>>
>>795023
>What? The governor doesn't set the state budget. That's legislative.
He can veto budgets. What happened, is that under a system that favored states that gave more federal dollars than they took, the Feds said if California had a balanced budget by Date X, they'd give California $45 billion towards meeting it. So, Arnold vetoed budget after budget, until the date passed - then the Feds gave Cal an extension, and he vetoed it until that date passed. Then, after the finally Fed's said, "Well, yer fucked." He took the first budget he vetoed, line-item vetoed two items on it, and passed that.

He later wrote in an autobiography, "I had to let the car crash to fix it." - the sort of legal treason we see from a lot of politicians.

Granted, the next governor managed to give Cali a surplus again, but it hemorrhaged a lot of jobs and gave PG&E a whole lot more power in the process - and I'm sure you remember how PG&E worked for California.

>it's a mistake to get caught up in team blue/team red games
Fair enough. My problem with Arnold wasn't that he was red, so much as he had no idea what he was doing (and the next runner up was Gary Coleman). Hollywood stars only know how to win Hollywood popularity contests, but actual politicians stand no chance against them in such games.

He could have been worse though. He listened to many of his more veteran peers and experts (if not on that topic), which is more than I can say for some other Hollywood stars freshly finding themselves in politics.
>>
>>795036
You're more apt to get Paris Hilton than anyone that knows what they are actually doing.

Say what you will about Newsom, he knows what he's doing. I do think he's scum, pushing that damned bullet train cash pot that neither end of it wants, just as he did back when last he served, but at least he doesn't break anything more than it's already broken. Right now would be a very bad time to break something.
>>
>>795039
>Right now would be a very bad time to break something.
Exactly what the group pushing for the recall is hoping for. They just want to damage the state and its people as much as they can, because it's blue.
>>
>>795032
Random demo is better than this guy.
Tbqh I want a conservo in office here for the simple fact that it ruins the single party monopolization that allowed this shit bag in the first place
>>
GUYS WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON TEXAS AND HOW THEIR UTILITY COMPANIES WERE UNABLE TO HANDLE A SEVERE WEATHER EVENT
>>
>>795039
If the Democratic Party has failed to learn from the previous recall and loses to Gary Coleman again in a jungle vote, they deserve it. Their approach was idiotic.

>>795205
Calm your ass down. There’s what, 4 fucking threads in the catalog. Jesus Christ what a noob.
>>
795040
You are a parody of a shitposter.
>>
>>795205
Further proof the pearl clutching over Texas is a smokescreen to cover up Dem crimes in CA and NY: the post
>>
>>795205
100% proof that DNC shills are sliding threads and spamming stories on Texas to qover up the qrimes and failings of leftist Politiqal Elite
>>
>>795219
>>795234
>>795244
I'm not sure if these responses to satire are satirical anymore.

Think I'm gonna go watch Starship Troopers again, or something.
>>
>>795256
>How many layers of satire are you on?

That's 4chan and channel baby. The asian supermacists are white, the white supremacists are black. The black nationalists are mexican. And the only thing more dangerous than the KKK are My Little Pony fans.
>>
>>795300
>My Little Pony fans.
These people are the real fascists
>>
>>795040
Yes exactly!
This is all a republican conspiracy!
The Facts™ don't lie! Newsom did an amazing job I couldn't be happier with 1/2 of the businesses in the states capitol being boarded up with plywood
>>
Neusom.. workin' for Silicon Valley Girls? shipping jobs to China?
>>
>>795008
You really do support dictatorship don't you
>>
>>795023
>But more importantly, it's a mistake to get caught up in team blue/team red games. We're in a very volatile time, and I suspect things may shift in a hurry in unexpected ways.
Words of wisdom from one with something to say, spoken amongst deaf fools who feel they have to say something
>>
>>794704
Signatures not being accepted? Literal vote suppression toward marginalized minorities.
>>
>>795040
Only 5 of the 50 governors in the US thought it was a good idea to shove COVID positive patients into nursing homes, Newsome was one of them
>>
>>795555
BAM!!
>>795465
Funny isn't it? The state won't do ONE DAMN THING to validate a vote, but they will FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL to invalidate literal public signatures
The state is ran by Porky
>>
>>795358
No, he did a half-assed job at best, but better than any random Hollywood star we're likely to get into power due to tis recall.

And the GOP hating California is not exactly a "conspiracy theory", anymore than the existence of the party itself is.
>>
>>795463
I support some degree of stable government - being able to knock off the head of said with 5% of the population, in a nation where 30% will knock off anyone of the opposing party, is problematic.

20% would be more reasonable. Some more official recourses for opposing government officials to oust him would be nice (maybe 15% of the state house with 5% of his party in agreement), and more limited terms, I'm all for.

But if all it takes to replace the governor with Paris Hilton is 5% of the populous, when 25% to 50% of it always wants any red or blue governor gone by default, just because of the color of his tie, fuck that shit.
>>
>>794887
>Half of these reasons existed before Newsom was even governor
So then why didn't he fix them?
>>
>>795638
Its not so much the GOP hating California as much as it is California hating middle America and getting hate back in response.
>>
oh man, if this works out they'll do the same thing to cruz so hard...
>>
>>795701
I don't think California even thinks about middle America. On the other hand, you have Utah messing with California elections to thank for gay marriage, so maybe in that respect.
>>
>>795739
Unlike California, Texas isn't insane enough to allow a recall with such a small portion of the population.
>>
>>795750
I wouldn't put money on that:
https://news.yahoo.com/recall-gov-newsom-campaign-nears-103939964.html
>>
>>795638
See>>795555
any rando would have done a better job
>>
>>795638
Yeah I know every time a Party©™ official makes does a poor job you people blame your conservative boogey men
Newsoms is a shit governor deal with it
>>
>>795750
Why recall at all.
Just let one party dictate the entire system for all eternity.
Fuck the state residents if they don't like it. Why would anyone disagree with a democrat governor unless if there were some grand republican conspiracy at work
>>
>>795750
Do you realize that it still requires a vote?
>>
>>794731
Dude is a horrible governor his response to covid literally handicapped the state.
I've been to many others that fared 10x better
>>794748
Yes, it's a republican conspiracy just like Chicago's murder rate
>>
>>795023
>It's quite hard to get 12 percent of the entire voting population to get off their asses and sign up for this thing.
Considering the only thing Republicans have going for them is spite given 40% of them want to engage in terrorism, it couldn't be that hard to find that many Republicans to sign on.
Trump's message was almost entirely selfishness and hate, on the fiery pile of the Obama economy he wrecked and the country being ravaged by the virus he did nothing to contain, and he still had that many people vote for him.
>>
>>795966
>given 40% of them want to engage in protecting democracy from a voting process that has been obviously altered and rigged within the last three or four years such that it's nearly impossible now to verify a voters eligibility and actually tie the vote to the voter
>>
Noooooooooooo but hes a democrat and democrats are the good guys, the HAS to be the russians and the KGB doing this.
>>
>>796891
No, they actually blame it on a republican conspiracy, not the shitpoor covid response or 11 billion in money that disappeared due to fraud this last year
>>
>>796904
Yeah there's a lot of California pissed about this and a lot of demos with their porky pals running interference blaming it on some grand republican conspiracy, as they always do
>>
>>794721
>The state secretary is not a fair gamer
He's rigged the system to high hell.
They register illegals and then vote for them
>>
>>794879
It's also a legal drug, and it that happens to be one of the few drugs where the withdrawal can kill serious addicts. Chronic alcoholics have to taper off slowly or they will actually die, and there are far more of them than most people realize. With booze being kind of state sponsored drug racket, closing liquor stores with no alternatives to access is a literal death sentence for people in that position. You can certainly about poor choices of individuals, but it's the choices of the state that is directly killing people here no matter which way you spin it.
>>
>>794879
The last thing you want, is a populous suffering from both cabin fever, and withdrawals.
>>
>>794879
Because the governor owns it
>>
>>797129
>Chronic alcoholics have to taper off slowly or they will actually die
People don't realize that because they think it's legal so no big deal. Alc w/d is significantly more dangerous than even narcotic w/d from morphine or heroin.
>>
>>797260
What does w/d mean
>>
>>797862
withdrawal
>>
>>797904
Oh
>>
>>794705
>We have gotten about 2,000 signatures in all. March 10 is the last day we can turn in the recall petitions to the county. The county verifies the signatures and sends in the count to the California Secretary of State.
This has def passed the signature phase.
Next week are on to the "let the people vote while career democrats call it a conservative conspiracy from Utah"
>>
>>798543
>BAH GAWD, HE'S GOT THUH NARRATIVE! YEAAARGH!
Look, I'm not saying a recall would hurt anything, but who do you think would be next? What's the fucking line, here?
>>
>>797862
Washer and dryer
>w/d hookups available
Etc.
>>
>>798565
It's happened before like 10-15 years ago you idiot.
When the state is controlled by a single party, red or blue, for decades you get shit people in office occasionally
>>
California
12% of the total U.S. population
34% of the nation’s welfare recipients.

Get that fool out of there
>>
>>795038
>>795008
The governorator was the hero you both needed and deserved. Too bad he will forever be remembered as a villain for doing what needed to be done.
>>
>>795039
It's unironically better to have politicians who legitimately don't know what they're doing. It's less damaging than the competent ones who know how to line their own pockets and get away with it.
>>
>>799072
Well ...
I can't argue with that.
Although ideally I'd much rather have one who has to work for their votes and compete against rivals rather than just be handed positions by their party in mock elections
>>
>>799070
Having an affair with his maid?
>>
>>798795
>idiot
Calm down, fucker. Unless you're just replying to the wrong comment, you aren't making any fucking sense.
What's the fucking line? Who the fuck else, out of all the politicians bouncing their dicks and fat clits around Spokane, are gonna be any better as a governor? Is there even a conservative that would stand a chance?
>>
>>799070
By setting back the economy 10 years? You do realize its ultimately the people who have to make up for that, yes?

I mean, yeah, it is true, nearly all of California's, and indeed, the nation's and most of the world's evils, are the result of an overheated economy. All that injustice of the wealth divide, is inevitable, so long as the economy continues to grow, as is required for its survival.

The government, and its various arms, however, is the only tool in the box we have that can ever be used to mitigate that damage. It can, just as easily, be used to make it worse, and part of its job, is to keep that economy growing, smoothly as possible.

The government is the economy's nuke. It can keep the peace among a populous that is at constant war by law of economics and identity, or it can destroy the world - all just a matter of how you use it. Not something good or evil in and of itself, but a tool of power, subject only to the level of responsibility in which it is deployed by whoever wears its mask at any given moment.

California's is the most powerful economy in the nation, by far. It is a portent of things to come. Learn from its mistakes well, but also its successes.
>>
>>796904
Lololol https:www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-23/recall-newsom-effort-qanon-antivaxxer-extremist-ties
>>
>>800126
Yawn, literal fake news
>>
>>800179
>Yawn, literal fake news

ok q anon
>>
>>800179
>latimes is fake news
Sorry cultist, no.
>>
>>800252
>>800315
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness
>YWNBAW
>>
>>800317
Only as bad as any other denial of reality.
>>
>>794748
and how many billions were wasted going after Drumpf?
>>
>>801558
Not as many as wasted promoting him, and cleaning up his mess.

Though the Democrats still don't seem to understand, one contributed to the other.





Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.