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The supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the Capitol on Wednesday to stop the ratification of President-elect Joe Biden's election victory were attempting a violent coup that multiple European security officials said appeared to have at least tacit support from aspects of the US federal agencies responsible for securing the Capitol complex.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Insider spoke with three officials on Thursday morning: a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations involving the US, terrorism, and Russia.

They said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation. None were willing to speak on the record because of the dire nature of the subject.

While they did not furnish evidence that federal agency officials facilitated the chaos, Insider is reporting this information because it illustrates the scale and seriousness of Wednesday's events: America's international military and security allies are now willing to give serious credence to the idea that Trump deliberately tried to violently overturn an election and that some federal law-enforcement agents — by omission or otherwise — facilitated the attempt.

One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.

"The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration's members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held," the NATO intelligence official said.
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"The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.

"The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn't really tell them to stop," the official said. "Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.

"I can't believe this happened."

The French police official said they believed that an investigation would find that someone interfered with the deployment of additional federal law-enforcement officials on the perimeter of the Capitol complex; the official has direct knowledge of the proper procedures for security of the facility.

The security of Congress is entrusted to the US Capitol Police, a federal agency that answers to Congress.

It is routine for the Capitol Police to coordinate with the federal Secret Service and the Park Police and local police in Washington, DC, before large demonstrations. The National Guard, commanded by the Department of Defense, is often on standby too.

On Wednesday, however, that coordination was late or absent.

"You cannot tell me I don't know what they should have done. I can fly to Washington tomorrow and do that job, just as any police official in Washington can fly to Paris and do mine," the official said. The official directs public security in a central Paris police district filled with government buildings and tourist sites.
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"These are not subtle principles" for managing demonstrations, "and they transfer to every situation," the official said. "This is why we train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored."

The National Guard, which was deployed heavily to quell the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, did not show up to assist the police until two hours after the action started on Wednesday, according to The Associated Press.

One video appeared to show some police officers opening a barrier to allow a group of protesters to get closer to the Capitol dome. Another video showed a police officer allowing a rioter to take a selfie with him inside the Capitol while protesters milled around the building unchecked.

Kim Dine, who was the chief of the Capitol Police from 2012 to 2016, told The Washington Post that he was surprised that the Capitol Police allowed demonstrators on the steps of the Capitol. He said he was also mystified that few rioters were arrested on the spot.

Larry Schaefer, who worked for the Capitol Police for more than 30 years, told ProPublica something similar: "We have a planned, known demonstration that has a propensity for violence in the past and threats to carry weapons — why would you not prepare yourself as we have done in the past?"

The Capitol Police did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
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The French police official detailed multiple lapses they believe were systematic:

>Large crowds of protesters needed to be managed far earlier by the police, who instead controlled a scene at the first demonstration Trump addressed, then ignored the crowd as it streamed toward the Capitol.

>"It should have been surrounded, managed, and directed immediately, and that pressure never released."

>Because the crowd was not managed and directed, the official said, the protesters were able to congregate unimpeded around the Capitol, where the next major failure took place.

>"It is unthinkable there was not a strong police cordon on the outskirts of the complex. Fences and barricades are useless without strong police enforcement. This is when you start making arrests, targeting key people that appear violent, anyone who attacks an officer, anyone who breaches the barricade. You have to show that crossing the line will fail and end in arrest."

>"I cannot believe the failure to establish a proper cordon was a mistake. These are very skilled police officials, but they are federal, and that means they ultimately report to the president. This needs to be investigated."

>"When the crowd reached the steps of the building, the situation was over. The police are there to protect the building from terrorist attacks and crime, not a battalion of infantry. That had to be managed from hundreds of meters away unless the police were willing to completely open fire, and I can respect why they were not."
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The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.

"Thank God it didn't work, because I can't imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system," the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.

"The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that's why Putin doesn't mind at all that Trump lost. He's got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.

"Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air," the official said. "They won't miss Trump; they'll be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate."
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>>763566
>"Thank God it didn't work, because I can't imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system,"
Start by decoupling the global financial system from the US and then isolate them and sanction anyone who does business with them. Taking the US's playbook and throwing it back at them.
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>>763620
Would be slitting their own throats in the process. Global reserve status is not something one takes away lightly, without a detailed multi-national plan that, currently, no one can agree upon. One sufficient to deal with the $27 trillion dollar global fallout, and dealing with what the most powerful military in the world might do, when the nation that pays for it, no longer can.
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>>763561
So his half-assed failed attempt at election fraud was followed by a half-assed failed attempt at a military coup. Gee who woulda thought.
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If shooting our own foot, leads to the actual death or crippling of the US, then by all means let's do it.
They've been treating the world as if it were their buffet.
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>>763664
Issue being, that works both ways. The US is the host of the global buffet, that every other world power would very much like to replace - and the two at the top of that list of contenders, are not nearly so beholden to their guests.
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>>763642
All the different players have their plans in place and will likely expedite them as things continue getting worse. Should the US military decide to go rogue, a counter coalition would be formed to deal with it, and that would be the end of the old order. Even the US is contained with what they could do without allies willing to die for their cause.
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Fun Fact: The woman being interviewed is a descendent of the guy who penned the constitution.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UPp3ruabZ2C/
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>coup
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>>763744
>All the different players have their plans in place and will likely expedite them as things continue getting worse.
But no world wide consensus for a single plan, which would be required.

Gotta at least get Russia and the EU in the same boat for any ship to be left on the sea, maybe dragging China long in the tide. While some vague efforts have been made involving Germany in that direction, memories seem to die hard. No nation wants to commit economic suicide, no major economic power trusts any other, and, ultimately, no one really profits from this form of global genocide.
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>>763566
Why would anyone listen to so-called "officials from other nations" that are too chickenshit to stand up and speak on the record. The horseshit detector is pegged.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". Hanlon's Razor
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>>763660
I assume you mean his attempt to stop absentee ballots and then lying his ass off about the election results.

But yes, the one saving grace about Trump and his supporters are how stunningly incompetent they are given we've found out that they not only didn't mobilize law enforcement but told state national guards to stand down and ignore pleads for help from those in the capital.
The Coup forces had ample time to take over the Capitol and barricade themselves in to take hostages. Hell, it looks like they had at least one capture/kill team from images of the floor of the senate where you had several heavily armored people with zip tie cuffs.
Instead they just milled around with their thumb up their asses or just stole stuff, or outright surrendered when they did fuck around and found out.

The only thing more pathetic is right wing propaganda trying to scapegoat Antifa or pretend this wasn't a failed coup.
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>>763770
>that are too chickenshit to stand up and speak on the record
Because they want to speak the truth without the diplomatic repercussions of personally cheesing off the person who still commands the largest army in the world.
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>>763766
>A coup or coup d'état is the removal of an existing government from power, usually through violent means. Typically, it is an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a political faction, the military, or a dictator.
Yes.
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>>763770
The folks in charge, everywhere, have no issues speaking far too much of their minds on the record, these days. Kind of what is causing the confidence drop. The people will eventually find they have to live with what's behind OZ's curtain.
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>>763756
fun fact - I would not listen to anyone who calls an affidavit an "affadavid"...both of the idiots in the video do.
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>>763770
>too chickenshit to stand up and speak on the record
No one wants to be Salami'ed or Khashoggi'ed or even Assange'ed for speaking out without adequate confidentiality. Do you?
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>>763756
So am I, and? Wouldn't be the first time I've chastised a relative for letting herself used as fleshbot spam - or becoming a fleshbot spammer.
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>>763664

Absolutely. Archduke Ferdinand needs to pay for his crimes no matter what the international fallout might be.
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>>763772
you seriously think some pissy French bureaucrat is worried Trumpy and his minions are going to get him? its just more mud in the water - china must be happier than shit over all this.
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>>763775
>coup
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>>763778
oh please, now you are just being disingenuous
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>>763783
>you seriously think some pissy French bureaucrat is worried Trumpy and his minions are going to get him?
Now that he's on the way out it matters less, but if a senior French military official had shit-talked Trump in the middle of his term I doubt it would surprise anyone if he took it out on France.

>china must be happier than shit over all this.
Oh, of course. They're fucking delighted that the United States has proven itself an unreliable guarantor of international security.
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>>763785
Glowfag, tell the truth. Whistleblowers are liquidated if they are caught.
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>>763779
Is that all youve got a typo? wow the whole case will fall apart apart now.

Have you seen the clip, perhaps she mispronounced a word wrong here check it

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UPp3ruabZ2C/
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>>763790
vindman and ciaramella lost their jobs but other than that they're doing just fine

it's not actually that easy to off whistleblowers in functioning democracies
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>>763793
...you can't be serious.
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>>763795
yeah everyone who disagrees with you is just pretending to disagree with you

for anyone to actually disagree with you is a violation of the laws of physics
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>>763796
Where's Rich?
Where is Assange?
Where is Snowden?
When's the last time anyone else legitimately practiced investigative journalism?
The only "whistleblowers" who get protected are ones who make up whatever bullshit the deep state tells them to.
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>>763801
exactly - this is simply more transnational deep state kabuki theater.
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>>763801
From what ive heard, they are more worried about what Maxwells daughter is giving them, but she nice a safe tucked up in her cell.
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>>763784
Look at this cope d'etat over the fact that Trump terrorists attempted to sage a coup
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>>763801
Made worse that the ones talking on the Jan 6 coup are not American citizens. Obama already killed American citizens on foreign soil, how much easier for the US to act when it's foreign citizens on foreign soil? We don't even need to think hard, there's countless examples of this happening in public knowledge alone.

If you talk, you do it as anonymously as possible while still maintaining credibility with your contacts.
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>>763792
I really hope you are a scripted bot, and not someone reading from a response sheet. As I'd truly feel sorry for you then. If it's the latter, please think about what they've made you become, after you log out.
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>>763812
This guy isnt American. Professor Alfio D'Urso

https://postimg.cc/vcSCXfhg

Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election.

https://youtu.be/8ZGRKgfwr9U
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>>763829
Got any evidence of this "sworn testimony" from "4 November 2020" other than a random piece of paper that could have been signed by anyone?

This is supposedly Italian courtroom testimony. It leaves legal records. So where's the actual fucking legal record?
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>>763844
Its there, do you read Italian?

Or is it all another conspiracy? Do you have your Tinfoil hat on? There was a great article in your GQ all about what to wear with your pink shirt. Link below.

https://www.berrettificiodepa.com
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>>763849
>Its there, do you read Italian?
I can, actually. Post it.
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>>763766
If they got their hands on any representatives with a D under their name, they were going to hold them hostage at best, kill them at worst. It was a coup attempt that was done poorly on easy mode.
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Glad Trump reinstituted the death penalty for traitors. Would be ironic if it was used against him.
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>>763771
The one saving grace for the establishment is that they were completely and utterly incompetent despite all their advantages going into the Capitol. But the establishment shouldn't think they are off the hook since they now know what they are capable of and could improve for a future attack. It's possible that they are too mentally stunted to do any learning from this and just go back to their usual right wing terrorist activities outside of DC, but thinking that way would only show how incompetent the establishment is to threats to their power not coming from leftists.
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>>763561
>Coup Attempt Was Backed By Law Enforcement And Intelligence Agencies

i am not surprised if it was done by Bidens paws to sabotage Trumps popularity and start another "russian gate impeachment".
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>>763561
If black BLM members tried to rush the Capitol, and authorities knew their plan before hand, cops or soldiers would've been waiting behind sandbags with M61 machine-guns and shooting up any BLMers who tried to get inside.
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>If black BLM members tried to rush the Capitol, and authorities knew their plan before hand, cops or soldiers would've been waiting behind sandbags with M61 machine-guns and shooting up any BLMers who tried to get inside.
Just like a CHAZ, and countless other protests and riots across the country, amirite?
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>>766024
>CHAZ
Before they set up the zone the police were gassing and shooting them for over a week straight that they ran out of expired tear gas
If it was the US capital housing the most powerful people in the country BLM would be dead before reaching the steps
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I am confused. I thought someone said the police and national guard were told to stand down by Trump? He has no control over any of these people. He comands the army not the police or the nat guard. You are just fooling around, right?
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Sorry, just catching up here. The FRENCH said what? And you are listening to the FRENCH, ignoring the AMERICANS that were right there!? Who ARE you?
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>>763642
Crypto is on its way. US monetary hegemony will soon be history, every nation is looking to get off the US money printer
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>>763671
I think the world will be better off USA’s tit. Pain at first, but in the long run everyone is better off. Even US citizens.
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>>766245
No nation is going to take up a currency it can't control, that's why every nation runs on fiat currencies these days.

Be nice to have one as the world reserve, but alas. While I can see crypto currency entering the mainstream through a country with a giant military (like the US), it'll never be one that doesn't have a lever on it, and thus Satoshi Nakamoto's dream of financial justice will never come to pass.

>>766246
Yeah, after the power vacuum resolves and world war 3 is over, maybe the survivors will have learned something, that they didn't learn from all the previous wars.

I somehow doubt it, this shit just goes on a cycle of rinse and repeat. Certainly the US citizens, with their country's vast natural resources being locked away behind a paywall of a people who are currently too rich to be made to extract them cheaply enough to be competitive, will be reduced to cheap slave labor for the new kings of the new world order - which will likely be largely Russia and/or China.

I mean, if you think we're bad... At least for us, it's usually just business and business PR is still a thing, if barely.
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>>766230
DC's national guard is under his direct control, and other state's national guards can't come to DC unless they give approval from the Department of Defense, which Trump just recently purged and appointed lackies.
Furthermore it looks like both on the inside and out, the Capital police were understaffed and under equipped plus you had traitors in the force for assisted the coup forces.
As for why the Guard was finally called in, that was Pence going behind Trump's back to do it.

The billion dollar question is who is the military loyal too? After the letter penned by all the living DoDs for the military to not side with Trump and his coup, it begs the question of how much of the rank and file will join Trump when he attempts a second coup?
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What the Hell is WRONG with you Americans?
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>>766270
Right wing media has a massive propaganda network here to the point they've brainwash people.
Fuckers could say the sun rises in the west and they'd get people to believe i.t
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when they say donald gave them permission to come out in the open, there talking about there on citizens
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>>766270
We're stressed, afraid, angry, and overstimulated, thus blind to the core causes of our emotions and the ultimate consequences of our actions - and currently have no mechanisms in our politics or media to prevent people from profiting from this, accelerating the process in a feedback loop, to which there is no end in sight.

Which ultimately, is nothing that isn't potentially wrong with every human being on the planet, to one degree or another. We're just more intense about it, at the moment.

So, if we go down, remember us as an object lesson and omen for yourselves, as you'll also find yourselves in dire straights of conflict in short order - as we're the lid on a massive international boiler.
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>>763561
> anonymous correspondents not even from the US claim that a drunken occupation is instead a well organized coup

What a shit article: this is tin foil tier.
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>>763564
>The National Guard, which was deployed heavily to quell the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020
wtf kind of revisionist history is this? they were used in a couple states, all the places with the heaviest rioting never saw national guard
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>>766180
What's your point, they deployed tear gas and every other means available at the capitol. They never applied other-whelming lethal force to BLM - not when they burned down a police precinct, not when they occupied several city blocks and "seceded," not when they occupied government buildings - and yet you're possessed by this narrative that suggests the police would have been suddenly motivated to instigate a mass casualty event and throw away their lives if they saw a black person at the capitol despite being outnumbered 200 to 1.
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>>766180
>If it was the US capital housing the most powerful people in the country BLM would be dead before reaching the steps
In 1967, the Black Panthers invaded the capitol building with guns while the General Assembly was in session and nothing happened to them
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>>766270
We’re only concerned with winning, yet we are completely unconcerned with whether we deserve to win, or even with what we're trying to win.

Trump openly cheated, and his party kept right on cheering everything he was doing.

The Democrats don’t believe they cheated, but even if they did, most would be fine with it.

So we’re all acting like children - worse than children, really, as even kids will generally call out members of their own team for cheating.

We seem to have reached a point where it’s not enough for everyone to have the opportunity to compete - we also all have to win. We’re entitled to win. We just had a thread, where some cheerleader got kicked off her team for sending a pic of her flipping off the school to a few hundred friends - the courts said the school couldn’t do that, and half the Americans in the thread were defending that decision! As if we should all be able to have any position we want, whether we deserve to have it or not, whether we’re qualified to do the job that position demands or not.

I mean, if Trump, a city-slicker billionaire and former friends of the Clintons, once charged with pedophilia, can be head of the GOP and POTUS, anyone should be able to be anything they want, right? Blind people should be able to fly fighter jets! Highschool dropouts should be able to design nuclear reactors! It's the American way!

Seems just a bit ago, this was the nation of meritocracy, sink or swim, but now, we're just a nation of entitlement. Winning is now a right, not a privilege for those deserving of it.
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>>766316
Eh, it was the California state house, under Reagan, and half of them were arrested, then the FBI started infiltrating and hunting down BP cells, then Governor Reagan took away gun rights from everyone in the state, and ended the free university level education which was standard in California, as he felt the universities were BP recruiting grounds.

But sure, nothing happened to them.
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>>766307
>they deployed tear gas
One tear gas canister in the beginning, basically nothing. They deployed dozens to hundreds per day on the summer protests by leftists.
>every other means available
Rubber bullets? Mass flash bangs aka more than one? Police charges? Surrounding pockets of protesters to split groups and round them up? No, the police literally just let them in to wreck shit and potentially take hostages if they were fast enough. Only the vice president's and congressman's personal secret service detail had any backbone to shoot on breach and they are the final line of defense.
Stop the snowflake arguments, MAGA faggot, you were treated with kid gloves in your coup attempt from beginning to end.
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>>766270
It would take less time to ask what the hell is RIGHT with Americans since that list gets shorter every day
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>>766428
>They deployed dozens to hundreds per day on the summer protests by leftists.
Well leftists are far more violent, so that makes sense.
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>>766364
>But sure, nothing happened to them.
I think he's more referencing the fact that every leftist currently calling for fascist crackdowns, also thinks the BP doing the same thing was cool and that they were unjustly punished.

If the Capitol Rioters had firearms, I guess leftists wouldn't be so vocally opposed to it.
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>>766497
>far more violent
>than attempting kill or take the second and third in line for presidential succession hostage along with other high government officials
Today I learned that Wendy's is more important than Capitol Hill.
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>>766294
The only place that didn't see national guard was portland due to local red tape, they were pretty much everywhere else and being used pretty liberally.
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>>766514
man, you're deep into that fanfic the billion dollar corporations and the establishment is feeding you.
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>>766307
>no pepperballs
>no kettling
>barely any teargass
>shitty ranged mace
>no riot shields
they literally had to put it on easy mode for maga shits to win against police due to how badly they organize in a crowd.
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>>766514
>looting and burning down private mom & pop businesses and people's homes is less violent and more patriotic than storming the Capitol building
>muh Wendy's
Today I learned that holding the government responsible for problems it created is terrorism, and attacking innocent bystanders is patriotism
>simping for "high government officials"
Poow wittle congwess got scawed ;_;
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How the fuck does any rational person believe this was a coup?? Lol people are fucking idiots.
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>>766523
>police literally kneeling with BLM protestors
>muh easy mode for maga muhfugga, bixnood

Remember when every corporate entity signaled support for BLM/Antifa and they still thought they were the resistance?
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>>766521
You say that while defending those billion dollar corporations and elitist narratives
>>766527
>holding the government responsible
>while chanting "hang Mike Pence" down the halls of the Capitol
Nice meme
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>>766528
By and large, they don't. What you're seeing is a mass call to virtue signal to avoid getting peepee slapped
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>>766530
Don't give me that bullshit, local police have had more forceful responses to groups twenty times smaller than the DC police were able to muster with literal weeks of warning. If you think that there wasn't some sort of bias in that then you are beyond delusional, they had their hands held.
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>>766531
>still simping for congress
>still licking the boot
How dare they make congwess feew scawed >_<
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>>766528
It was not a coup. Just a failed attempt at a coup.
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>>766545
>Don't give me that bullshi
What bullshit?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=police+kneeling+with+blm

Dozens and dozens of instances of police kneeling with BLM while they burned cities all summer

>they had their hands held.
Yeah dude it's called a psyop. Welcome to the game, you're a decade+ late.
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>>763561
>minor protest
>ITS A COUP
I hope you retarded americans enjoy your dems scaring you into giving the NSA and FBI even more power to spy on you.
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>>766558
failed coup
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>>766558
No, that was already done by Bush and the Republicants with the euphemistically named, "The Patriot Act" after 9/11. They already have full carte blanche. In fact, go ahead and give them a big 'ol smile and wave of the hand, it helps brighten some grunt analyst's day!
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>>766428
>They deployed dozens to hundreds per day on the summer protests by leftists.
Yes, multi-day events wherein there was time for police to arm up and respond in force. If the protestors had not vacated by 6pm curfew, they would also have received the full force of the police and NG. Why the fuck do you people think the police not using things they didn't have, and not having fucking star trek teleporters to get the equipment to the scene instantly is a fucking conspiracy?

>Rubber bullets? Mass flash bangs aka more than one? Police charges? Surrounding pockets of protesters to split groups and round them up? No, the police literally just let them in to wreck shit and potentially take hostages if they were fast enough.
All things they neither had with them or the numbers to employ available at the time of the riot.

Here's a secret, a thing you might not be aware of: sneak attacks tend to be met with less resistance than month-long campaigns, precisely because the combination of surprise and short duration prevents the enemy from mobilizing their full power against you.
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>>766563
Bush did it, them obama made it exponentially worse, then trump made it worse, and now biden is going to supercharge it. Its what you and your retard country deserve.
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>>766566
I won't be satisfied before they get police checkpoints at every major point of interest, and armed drones patrolling the streets.
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>>766568
An anal probe at every stoplight
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>>766571
Mandatory blood test booths at every interstate exit.
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>>766565
It isn't a conspiracy. Police are statistically more likely to deploy violence against left wing protests than they are right wing protests. It's just a demonstrable, quantifiable fact. It also makes sense on an intuitive level. Left-wing protests generally meaningfully challenge authority and state power. Right-wing protests generally aim to preserve authority and state power. Why is it so difficult to believe that the police are less likely to deploy violence and extreme tactics against groups of people they ideologically align with?
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>>766565
>there was time for police to arm up and respond in force
Police knew about this for weeks. They intentionally didn't do shit since they are full of MAGA faggots too and circumvented all security measures for their cause.
You're full of bullshit.
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>>766566
How did Obama and Trump "make it worse?" It already permitted full scale, unlimited surveillance of American citizens even within the borders of the US, the ability to charge anyone, including US citizens, with being a "terrorist," seize US citizens' property w/o charging them with a crime, incarcerate them w/o due process indefinitely and torture them. How specifically, could Obama and Trump have made it worse?
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>>766565
>Here's a secret, a thing you might not be aware of: sneak attacks tend to be met with less resistance than month-long campaigns
how fucking dumb are you to think this was a "sneak attack", anyone with a functioning brain could tell a bunch of angry boomers would be willing to cause trouble because they had openly been talking about wanting violence for fucking weeks at this point.
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>>766571
Many would enjoy that.
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>>766577
>How did Obama and Trump "make it worse?
They both gave massive budget increases to the security state and ignored their ever increasing violations of the constitution and law. Biden will be no different they all hate americans and will use their secret police to oppress them.
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>>766584
Welcome to post 9/11 America. But put blame where blame is due - Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld. The subsequent leaders aren't going to give it up, even a professed Libertarian like the hypocrite Rand Paul.
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Worth while if it meant they got Piglosi's laptop and the other traitors laptops as well.

Very clever
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>>766574
What you are suggesting is a conspiracy by definition.

>Right-wing protests generally aim to preserve authority and state power.
By murdering congress, eh?

>Why is it so difficult to believe that the police are less likely to deploy violence and extreme tactics against groups of people they ideologically align with?
It might be statistically true, but that doesn't change the events of the day, or suddenly make it more reasonable to suggest police not using means and resources they didn't have available at the time the riot began is proof of white supremacy or some nebulous shit like that.

>>766576
Police don't make response decisions at the level of individual officers. The mayor and police chief do. Unless you are suggesting democrat elected officials intentionally undermanned the police that day.

>Police knew about this for weeks.
No, contrary to twitter, there was not a credible presumption this would happen before the day of. I hate to burst your bubble, but the system is not in the business of ALLOWING congressmen to be killed.

>how fucking dumb are you to think this was a "sneak attack"
Until you can prove official KNEW this would happen as it did, that's exactly what it was. Reasonable foreknowledge of protests is not the same as reasonable foreknowledge of the coup attempt.
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>>766589
>But put blame where blame is due - Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld
This is the kind of retarded shit that lets all the democrats off the hook. They were all in on it, they all voted for it, and they all continue to support it. They are all to blame for this and they should be removed.
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occupation of a government facility is not a coup
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>>766594
The entire elite class needs to go, private and public. But that's communism (MSM neolibs and MAGA faggots on damage control trying to say they were anarchists lmao) so continue sucking their dicks, okay?
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>>766599
>lets replace our authoritarian two party state with an authoritarian one party state
How does this solve or change anything?
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Yeah um those from other countries mind your weak business ! Antifa has already been facial recog proven and arrests made. Cant believe some of these posts are anons? Especially "Viking dude and Russian Sickle tat" both from BLM riots. Spec forces were mixed in and took 20 laptops. Wake up ! According to some ppls logic this wld be the worlds first Unarmed Coup hahawahahawha!
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>>766601
Went over your head. It doesn't matter if it was a anarchist utopia or an libertarian wet dream that came out of removing the elites. Americans have been trained to say any change from neoliberalism is Stalin rising from the grave to start the USSA.
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>>766592
>What you are suggesting is a conspiracy by definition.
Nope. A study conducted by Notre Dame, Stanford and University of Wisconsin analyzed more than 15,000 protests and found that police presence and escalation of violence occurred more often at protests with primarily black participants. Additionally, between 24 May and 22 August, ACLED records more than 10,600 demonstration events across the country. Over 10,100 of these, or nearly 95%, involve peaceful protesters. Fewer than 570, or approximately 5%, involve demonstrators engaging in violence

>By murdering congress, eh?
Unironically, yes. Just because their ideology is incoherent doesn't mean they weren't trying to maintain authority.

>It might be statistically true, but that doesn't change the events of the day, or suddenly make it more reasonable to suggest police not using means and resources they didn't have available at the time the riot began is proof of white supremacy or some nebulous shit like that.
I didn't make that claim. I made the claim that police are statistically less likely to use violence against right-wing protestors and it makes sense on an intuitive level because, as we've discovered, many of the participants in the capital siege were law enforcement officers. Cops and right-wingers intersect on many, many issues. If we take the empirical evidence we have of police consistently coordinating with and turning a blind eye to right-wing groups and couple it with the data we have on the police use of violence nothing I've said is even remotely unreasonable. A lot of people are very curious how a large mob of people were able to cause destruction that capital police were more than equipped to prevent and I think implying that police had some level of complicity isn't baseless.
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>>766605
>Went over your head.
You being inarticulate is not the fault of others.
>Americans have been trained to say any change from neoliberalism is Stalin rising from the grave to start the USSA.
Americans are retarded but at least now we no some of them are will to storm congress even if it is for a dumb reason. Seeing the congress scurry away from their own capital like rats was pretty neat.
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>>766607
>Americans are retarded but at least now we no some of them are will to storm congress even if it is for a dumb reason.
Big fucking nope, anon. Knowing that there's a large contingency of people willing to risk their lives to destroy democracy and install a fascist dictator is not a positive in any way, shape or form.
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>>766608
>Knowing that there's a large contingency of people willing to risk their lives to destroy democracy
Is there honestly anyone who still believes america is a democracy? Every single one of those politicians are on the same page about fucking the citizens in the ass with wars, spying, and the consolidation of the economy in the hands of their donors. Democracy, if there ever was one, has been dead for generations.
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>>766592
>there was not a credible presumption this would happen before the day of
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/fbi-nypd-told-capitol-police-about-possibility-violence-riot-senior-n1253646
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-visited-extremists-ahead-of-capitol-riots-urged-them-not-to-travel-to-dc-source
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Your tenacity to defend the coup participants and the cops that aided them makes me think you're one of them. Should the FBI pay you a visit?
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>>766607
>You being inarticulate is not the fault of others.
Just because you can't understand nuance or implications doesn't mean you should blame others for that, anon.
>Americans are retarded
Nothing new, but you wanting to send the country into chaos for the lulz says more about you than them.
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>>766608
I think you're mistaking The Fringe beliefs of a few as the beliefs of the majority
This happens much in politics.
And to be honest the big six media corporations creating their echo Chambers for their propaganda does not help. A lot of people fall for this same trap that alienates their fellow American for the benefit of the oligarchy
Anyone with a brain stopped supporting Trump in 2017
There were definitely more than one guy with a megaphone during the occupation of Capitol Hill espousing the brokenness of our system, from both sides of the aisle
Yes anon, there are idiots on both sides who want to instill flavors of autocratic societal control

I hope at some point you realize that the majority of lefties and righties all want the same thing for the US. Their ideas of the best method to achieve it may be different (I generally see these fall along the divide of equality versus equity) but the majority of all citizens share the same ideas as to what the best outcomes are for the country.

There will always be lefties who call for conservative blood. And there will always be conservatives who call for Lefty blood.
Believe it or not these people are the exception not the norm.

Please exit the echo chamber and become part of the solution.
As soon as those who consider themselves Democrats or Republicans can come together and realize that the government is not looking out for their best interests anymore then at that point the oligarchs will have lost.
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>>766606
>A study conducted by Notre Dame, Stanford and University of Wisconsin analyzed more than 15,000 protests and found that police presence and escalation of violence occurred more often at protests with primarily black participants. Additionally, between 24 May and 22 August, ACLED records more than 10,600 demonstration events across the country. Over 10,100 of these, or nearly 95%, involve peaceful protesters. Fewer than 570, or approximately 5%, involve demonstrators engaging in violence
First, post the study itself.
Second, you are getting away from the issue itself: the response on the specific day in question. I will not accept appeals to very broad statistical phenomena in place of evidence from the day itself.
Third, again, suggesting that many actors with power are conspiring in service to personal or ideological goals is, by definition, conspiracy. It's up to you that you take the label to be negative, especially since the word wasn't the point, the suggestion that failure necessarily evidenced intent was.

>A lot of people are very curious how a large mob of people were able to cause destruction that capital police were more than equipped to prevent and I think implying that police had some level of complicity isn't baseless.
Because they were not, at the time of the event itself, equipped to prevent an unpredicted, concentrated assault on the capitol building itself. Trying to retroactively use this to support claims of systemic white supremacy and complicity on part of police and US government institutions is absurd. In absence of clear evidence, ideologues are stuffing in their own narratives.

>>766613
Evidence of violence is not the same as evidence of a coup attempt, as I have already said. From your first source:
>D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee said something similar Thursday, telling reporters, "There was no intelligence that suggested there would be a breach of the U.S. Capitol."
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>>766620
>Evidence of violence is not the same as evidence of a coup attempt
That's not what you said, faggot. Taking that goal post with you to another state?
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>>766611
>Is there honestly anyone who still believes america is a democracy?
Our democracy is barely functional but any improvement requires its existence. If you think shit is bad now then wait til you see what a white nationalist dictator would do. The current state of our democracy poorly representing the people is not an argument for allowing it to be replaced with something infinitely worse.

>Every single one of those politicians are on the same page about fucking the citizens in the ass with wars, spying, and the consolidation of the economy in the hands of their donors.
Most of them, sure, but not every single one. Voting in more progressives on state and local levels have yielded some pretty positive results. I don't ever expect the U.S. to become a utopia, anon, but any change, good or bad, will be incremental. Putting in public option for healthcare, some kind of college loan forgiveness and voting reform is definitely a step in the right direction. Will it fix the fact that our system operates to serve corporations? No, but its a start. All change will hinge on the material conditions of the average american. I don't think its a waste to try to make people's lives better. Justice CAN exist in an unjust system.

>Democracy, if there ever was one, has been dead for generations.
Honestly, if you're just a "nothing matters" doomer then get out of the way and let the rest of us advocate for something better. Arguing that our country being in a bad state is a good enough reason to let fascists make it worse is dumb as fuck.
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>>766623
From my own previous post:
>Reasonable foreknowledge of protests is not the same as reasonable foreknowledge of the coup attempt
So are you trolling or just retarded?
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>>766590
>Worth while if it meant they got Piglosi's laptop and the other traitors laptops as well.
>Very clever

Bordering on genius :)
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>>766624
They will never let you have anything good anon, American "democracy is a puppet show you are watching as we head towards a neo-liberal Neo-feudalism.
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>>766629
>They will never let you have anything good anon
Then you can go lay in a corner, curl in a ball and wait to die. Your doomer shit is boring and unproductive. Meanwhile, people who have a modicum of critical thinking skills will be advocating for the millions of people in this country who actually give a shit about its future.
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>>766632
Lmao the dems ratfucked bernie by rigging the primary and they will destroy anyone who wants positive change, you are wasting your time with them.
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>>766632
>Meanwhile, people who have a modicum of critical thinking skills will be advocating for the millions of people in this country who actually give a shit about its future.
>Thats why we need to vote for more foreign wars, more regulations to crack down on small businesses, and more surveillance and an increased police state, because we're 'thinking critically'.
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>>766633
>they will destroy anyone who wants positive change, you are wasting your time with them.
I don't give a shit about the Democrat party. I give a shit about Democrat voters. The Dem party cannot be made into a positive force for change but their platform can be hijacked to a certain extent to radicalize the increasing amount of people who have grown tired of them. Bernie did it. His electorate is the only reason Biden compromised on some of his more "progressive" policies. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him to follow through on him but the fact that medicare for all is now an actual conversation in mainstream politics where it was a completely radical pipe dream 10 years ago is a pretty good thing, believe it or not.

>>766636
>Thats why we need to vote for more foreign wars, more regulations to crack down on small businesses, and more surveillance and an increased police state, because we're 'thinking critically'.
Not only is this the stupidest strawman I've ever heard, selective electoral participation is still better than your plan of action - which is to do absolutely nothing and shitpost on the internet about nothing we do matters because everything is fucked. You add nothing to discourse. Your political advocacy is of no use to anybody.
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>>766644
>His electorate is the only reason Biden compromised on some of his more "progressive" policies.
Please don't be this gullible
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>>766644
>Not only is this the stupidest strawman I've ever heard
They're literally voting for it right now you idiot. What do you think that stimulus bill went to?

>You add nothing to discourse. Your political advocacy is of no use to anybody.
I'm pretty sure posting memes on the internet does far less damage than voting for murderous neocon/neolib politicians who never agree on anything except dropping bombs on the middle east. You people always cry about needing to be realistic and you're unable to come up with a solution that doesn't enshrine and entrench the status quo even further.

You "doing something" is why we're here. The road to hell is paved with good intentions by people like you.
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>>766633
>waaah people refuse to pat me on the back only for thinking the 'correct thoughts'
just another narcissist but with a different flavor to your bullshit.
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>>766654
>excusing political corruption because you think it's the more 'mature' position
I can't wait to end up in the FEMA camp with you, I'm going to fuck your centrist asshole raw every night and take your cigarette rations
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>>766626
>they didn't know there was a chance of violence beforehand
>they did
>nonono they didn't know there would be a coup attempt thats what I originally said
How many braincells do you have left? Single digits?
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>>766661
>>nonono they didn't know there would be a coup attempt
Yes, that's literally what I said and the core point. They knew there was a possibility of violent protest in DC generally, they DID NOT KNOW that there would be a targeted assault on the capitol building.

You're complaint is like if someone was told their house was going to be robbed and they put guards all over their grounds, and the thief got in through the sewers anyway, and afterwards the owner flipped out on the guards like "WTF WHY DIDN'T YOU ALL KNOW TO WAIT IN THE SEWERS BEFORE HE GOT IN, YOU WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN."
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>>766654
lmao enjoy having biden's police state rape your ass
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>>766663
So if they knew there could be violence then why didn't they deploy more officers?
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>>766663
they went through the front door and some windows though.
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>>766693
Do we know that there were DC officers who were not deployed that day? The protests were quite widespread in DC, with a lot of property to protect from trumpet shit smears.
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>>763924
They would have had guns if they were trying to throw a coup. It was just a riot, or as CNN likes to call it a mostly peaceful protest
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>>766723
>They would have had guns if they were trying to throw a coup
They did, with explosives and other destructive devices, along with zip ties for potential hostages
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>>766663
>WAIT IN THE SEWERS
Is this another amplification of "sharting in the mart?" Americans seem to be rather preoccupied with feces lately.
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>>766723
guns molotovs and explosives were all found stashed by police
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>>766648
So you think in Biden's 40 year career he's been anything other than a centrist? One reason Obama chose him as VP was to appease moderate Dems and Independents. And Obama himself was only slightly left of center. Biden has been to respect the influence of the Bernie bros and had to accomodate some of their positions. But although the right attempts to paint him as some kind of Socialist goblin, that ain't happening.
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>>766756
i-it was a-antifa o-officer!
don't put this on my record or my boss will get mad, p-please!
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>>766364
None of them were arrested, and Reagan passed that gun bill before they did that.
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>>763771
You sound like a schizo
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>>766180
>rubber bullets on BLM
>real bullets on MAGA
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>>766785
O-officer w-we was just funnin' and Trump, h-he loves us! C-can I have "Ghoul"iani or Lin Wood as my lawyer now?
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>>766624
The progressives are all grifters for their retard simps.
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Stop saying made up shit like coup or deep state. Quoting homer simpson people are stupid that is why everyone does everything
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>>766644
Trump supporters did to the Republican establishment what Bernie supporters should have done to the Democrat establishment. Bernie and Trump supporters could have come together to work out their differences to push forward a populist agenda that covers more people. However, Americans are retarded and you let the uniparty emotionally manipulate you into crawling back into bed with your abusers.
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>>767080
The one thing both parties generally do, is defend the bottom line they both stand on, as without that, this economic house of cards falls apart, and we get bought out by foreign economic powers.

Guys like Bernie and Ron Paul, admirable and well meaning idealists though they maybe, threaten the bottom line. Guys like Trump threatening the very system that gives the public any say at all, in addition to threatening the bottom line by being more concerned about exciting optics than practical consequences.

Sadly, pragmatism has to win out over emotion, as a matter of basic survival - at the same time, allowing emotions to go unaddressed and run wild for decades at a time, jeopardizes that very survival. Both parties, blinded in their efforts to defeat each other at all costs, have lost sight of that simple fact, and it may be too late for the nation's survival to regain sight of it now.
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>>766563
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act
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>>767321
And Al Gore invented the Internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Patriot_Act

I'm sure Joe Biden, as among the most senior senators around, even then, had a say in it, as did many others. It was something the PNC and similar conservative think thanks had been pushing in various forms for decades, voted down in various forms, many times, some of those downvotes from Biden. 9/11 just finally let them get it over the top.

...and Al Gore did have a hand in writing the legislation that commercialized the Internet and created the regulatory system for ISPs.
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>>767080
Bernie supporter: I want all americans to have free or easily affordable healthcare without corporate giants like Blue Cross hamstringing doctors on what treatments they can give
Trump supporter: EXECUTE ALL ILLEGALS. EXECUTE LIBS AND EXECUTE PELOSI


yeah. so much in common. People like you are the reason magashits feel so empowered to do stuff like an insurrection. They know cucks like you will always try to raise someone up from the lib side to claim they are "just as bad" as the worst magats can do.

They tried to execute congress, and now you're pretending that proves they are "like bernie supporters"
fuck off kid
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>>767530
>They tried to execute congress
Based, more balls than leftists could ever hope to have
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>>767530
>They tried to execute congress, and now you're pretending that proves they are "like bernie supporters"
Remember that Bernie supporter that literally shot up a Congressional baseball game
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>>767321
God damn he looks like a fucking used car salesman trying to sell you on a lie that is so big he doesn't believe he's about to say it and he can't even believe that you're taking it seriously

I mean that smile though
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>>767530
It would have been an improvement if they killed Congress

But they only occupied and damaged Capitol Hill

To be frank nobody wants bloody uprisings in their country unless if it's faggots like you calling for the death of conservatives, or it's conservative fundamentalists calling for the death of progressives

truth be told the system is fucked and the occupation of Capitol Hill was too little too late.

with the Democrats fully in control now and the media wing pushing words like insurrection and coup as hard as they can it's going to be like emperor palpatine tightening his grip on the Galaxy. I promise you they won't leave as many openings for people to demonstrate against them
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>>767550
That's back when he was still (relatively) young and on the ball. It's hilarious seeing the one-party two-colors fight amongst themselves on who should get credit with setting up the big brother surveillance state.
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>>767530
A Bernie bro tried to take over an ICE facility with a gun and bombs, one physically assaulted Rand Paul at his home, one shot up Republicans at a baseball game, one made bomb threats against congress, there was a Bernie bro in the group that plotted to kidnap Whitmer and Bernie bros were in the riots that killed 30+ people over the summer, as well as placing guillotines outside of the homes of politicians to intimidate them. Are you serious?
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>>767678
Can I just say that actually the guy who shot a the ICE facility was actually a false-flagging Proud Boy? My reason for it is, I've decided I don't want to associate myself with him at the moment, therefore he is clearly a right wing agent provocateur.

Actually I'm just going to expand that to all of them - No bernie supporter has ever, in the history of the united states, ever done anything bad. Not once. If you think they did, they didn't. It was the proud boys DISGUISED as a Bernie supporter.
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>>767679
I get the /s, but it's ridiculous how much cognitive dissonance it takes for some of this selective outrage.
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>>766565
>sneak attack

What? The fucking million mom march gets better security than they had that day when it goes to DC. This was a multi level security fail that anyone actually capable of the job would have seen coming and prepared for.
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>>767723
Can't be a failure when you never tried to provide security in the first place
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>>767678
>Are you serious?
Yes, of course we are. The main distinctions here are that a) the number of violent leftist extremists pales in comparison the number of violent right-wing extremists via pretty definitive emperical data and FBI statistics and b) the left wing is infinitely more willing to be open to discussing the extremists elements in our ideology than right wingers because EVERY TIME a right-wing terrorist kills someone or burns down a synagogue you people gather around to build conspiracies which pin the blame on other people. Conservatives are constitutionally incapable of excising the cancerous, toxic, violent elements from their ideology because it IS the ideology. The number of lefties who would be willing to defend the baseball game shooting is nowhere even remotely close to the number of conservatives who support the storm on the capital or will argue about how every right-wing terrorist is actually an undercover bernie supporter.
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>>767747
>you people gather around to build conspiracies which pin the blame on other people.
No we dont. You are conflating schizos on 4chan with regular people on the right.

>Conservatives are constitutionally incapable of excising the cancerous, toxic, violent elements from their ideology because it IS the ideology
Oh, I see, you are one of said schizos.
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>>767747
bruh, u need a mirror lol
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>>767749
>You are conflating schizos on 4chan with regular people on the right.
Half of Republicans supported sacking the capitol.
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>>767792
all muricans should support it
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>>767792
>Half of Republicans supported sacking the capitol

What like the sacking of Carthage? What goes on in your head get back on the meds
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>>763561
Probably attempting to kill millenials dreams by propping up incompetent democrats at the time a national crisis and mass hysteria was created over a cough, in order to train them to associate crisis and tragedy with Democrats like pavlovian dogs.

To recreate a microcosm of the great depression 2008 gave them the notice that people became a bit more conservative, all of a sudden the CIA's autonomous branches that were trying to do Ideological Subversion have their goal in the hole. Cause as much misery as possible to re-instill discipline, true-cynicism, and self-reliance, and responsible behavior through making no place to go.

Millenials are the only ones with no desire to procreate, so focused on material possessions, which just means they'll die alone in the long run, since nobody, even neighbors, will take so much time out of their day, that it detracts to their own as much as a spouse who's livelihood, family, and quality of life is severely impacted by lack of a husband, and likewise husband spouse that cares about him. Politicians just look at them as statistics on a chart.

If Yuri Bezmenov was right, and the Soviet Union's "Active Measures are still in effect, the past several decades they've probably been trying to eradicate millennials, the contaminated down to just getting rid of them because they can't quit being retards as the contaminated.
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>>767804
Birth rates between conservatives and liberals are radically far apart.
Most likely the Liberal Millennial Eradication portion of the plan was after repeated failures, and a frustrated and dejected CIA gave up on trying to re-educate them or give them values.
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>>767810
>Birth rates between conservatives and liberals are radically far apart


Where is your proof, I ,mean you cant go around saying things like that with out proof.
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>>767813
This is old news, anon
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>>767815
Thats easy to say but harder to prove, where is your proof ?
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>>767792
Worse than that, @ 51% of Republicans believe Q is real and provides inside info about the nefarious plots against them, including to wage war on Xmas.
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>>767830
No. . . it's just as easy to prove.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=2344929&page=1
Your politicians openly talk about demographic replacement being the key to winning elections for Democrats.
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>>767810
Anyone who willfully spawns an innocent child into this absolutely dystopian hell scape that is growing immeasurably worse by the day should be charged with felony child abuse and have the spawn remanded to the custody of CPS.

Thx, Boomers!
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>>767858
The hate against Christians is very mainstream. Do you even have a word to denounce it? You have Islamophobia and Antisemitism, what is the Christian equivalent?
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As news of an international conspiracy involving the Italian government to remove President Donald Trump picks up steam, a massive blackout just hit the Vatican.

The timing of this suggests something very big is happening, especially following the release of a sworn affidavit revealing the Italian government played a huge part in the US presidential election.
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Hard to attempt a coup with no weapons
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Iran now. Probably gathering info on the election steal. interesting!

https://twitter.com/aparsi/status/1349039600254267395
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Yes its kicking off, better be quick before its gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k44oQwh5ek&feature=youtu.be
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>>767912
>https://twitter.com/aparsi/status/1349039600254267395

هم اکنون قطعی گسترده برق در #تبریز
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how utterly fucking deranged do you have to be to believe an iranian power outage means they're in conspiracy with the italian government to steal an american election
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>>767912
Yes its in Tabriz, It is the Iranian end point for the Leonardo encryption satellites used in the Election steal.
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>>767940
You know absolutely nothing you old fart fuck off back to /oldfart/?

Here is one for those actually interested in current news.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/idaho-internet-provider-to-block-facebook-twitter-over-their-trump-bans/


A North Idaho internet service provider, YourT1WIFI, is blocking access to Facebook and Twitter as a response to the censorship faced by President Donald Trump, whose accounts were suspended on both platforms.
YourT1Wifi sent out an email to its customers saying it would block Facebook, Twitter, ‘and any other website that may also be censoring.’ The provider stated that the decision to do so wasn’t of a partisan nature, but meant to represent ‘a moral high ground of fair and decent communication.’ Customers could be added to a no-block list on request.
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>>763924
>>763775
>coup
these fucking pussies
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>>767946
what an ISP from bumfuck idaho wants to do also has nothing to do with anything in this thread
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>>767873
Christians are simply the evangelical tentacle of Judaism, so hate for them conveniently falls under the umbrella of anti-Semitism.
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>>767952
not him, but this thread is retarded to began with. Calling what happened a "coup" is fucking laughable. You better run, the maga-grannies are going to get you!
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>>767955
they attempted to disrupt the electoral count so that trump could remain president. just because they're a bunch of dumb larping faggots who didn't succeed doesn't mean they didn't try.
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>>767955
lol,
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>>767941
>Yes its in Tabriz, It is the Iranian end point for the Leonardo encryption satellites used in the Election steal.


Based
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>>767946
>>>767940
>You know absolutely nothing you old fart fuck off back to /oldfart/?

Totally based, he lurks here 24/7
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>>767958
>they attempted to disrupt the electoral count so that trump could remain president.
>T-There taking PICTURES a-and SELFIES! They are trying to stop our democratic process
>OH GOD! They have SHARPIES! They are going to cross out biden! Deep State save me!

So actual american people got into coofing distance of panzy politicians means COUP!
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>>767965
Are you actually this fucking stupid or did you honestly not read a single article or watch a single piece of footage concerning what happened at the capital? You know they beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher, right?
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>>767966
>You know they beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher, right?

Who Anifa? thats disgusting lock them up and throw away the key
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>>767966
You LITERALLY have no evidence for that. Show me where a cop was beat to death. Oh that's right...NOT A SINGLE FUCKING COP DIED AT THE CAPITAL. A single cop fell over when he RETURNED to his office. These past few days of MSM makes the fucking gatewaypundit look reliable.
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>>767965
They failed to find the targets they were planning to kill, like the Vice President and the Speaker of the House.

>>767971
>A single cop fell over when he RETURNED to his office.
From an intercranial bleed he received from being hit on the head with a fire extinguisher.
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>>767973
>From an intercranial bleed he received from being hit on the head with a fire extinguisher.
Nice Source Faggot
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>>767971
Based
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Trump lost btw
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>>767973
So full of shit its laughable

/oldfart/goingmad/
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>>767971
When someone starts posting in all caps it's an admission of defeat. And we accept your concession.
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>>767983
old fart repeating words ALERT!
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>>767971
You people really do suffer from terminal brainrot. You're constitutionally incapable of engaging with reality.
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>>767986
cap locks is a sign of EMPHASIS and MALE VITALITY
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>while they did not furnish evidence that federal agency officials facilitated this chaos, it supports our narrative so we're publishing it
wow
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>>767989
You're constitutionally incapable of engaging with my arguments.
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It wasn't a coup by Trump or his supporters, it was a false flag operation by his enemies.
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>>768008
nice try commie, but we were the ones who who showed how cowardly the congressman were.
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>>767993
"OBJECTIVE REALITY DOESN'T EXIST. HERE IS A THING I JUST MADE UP" isn't an argument. I can't engage with delusion, anon. The only thing that can engage with delusion is psychotropic medication.
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>>768010
You may want to have a little pow wow with your compatriots to get your story straight. They're the ones who can't decide if they did the coup or if antifa did it.
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>>768008
probably
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>>768011
>Liberal shids and fards all over the thread with no evidence of his bullshit.

>>768008
>>768014
>>768022
>>/qa/non
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>>768027
I am going to have to ask you guys to not bully or make fun of me because I forgot a '>' on >>>/qa/non
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>>767993
that is because he is constitutionally a redditt simp who bites the pillow, worships BBC, chugs soy, and cries in his sleep for AOC to use the strappy on him.
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>>768010
Based

Ps.. he's not a commie he's a Nazi socialist , not to be confused with a fascist Socialist, they are different, but cut from the same cloth nonetheless. One worshiped Shitler and the other Mussolini. I know its splitting hairs but they take that kind of thing seriously.
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>>765983
>democrats are dum lol
>but they're also incredibly effective at creating vast conspiracies without a single weak link that the republicans are too incompetent to find a single shred of evidence of, and are able to sabotage republicans at every turn from turning the US into the perfect society that it was in the 50s
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>>768036
what a low energy post
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>>768034
>he's not a commie he's a Nazi socialist , not to be confused with a fascist Socialist, they are different, but cut from the same cloth nonetheless. One worshiped Shitler and the other Mussolini. I know its splitting hairs but they take that kind of thing seriously
You are hilariously incoherent. I'll bet you any amount of money in my wallet that you have no idea what any of the words you just said means.
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>>768011
I'll give you a piece of objective reality.
During federal election season a presidential candidate will be bolstered by the organizations that want to get something in return.
80% of all news coverage in the US is owned by just 6 businesses, and these businesses bank on the fact that they can skew what people believe

Bush gave them what they wanted
Obama gave them what they wanted
Hillary would have gave them what they wanted
And Trump was an idiot nobody thought would actually win
Once he did 4 years of the big 6 (minus 1) worked around the clock at reversing their failure
And now we have biden,who will absolutely give what they want

Your political parties are controlled opposition and the controlling forces do not care if there is a D or an R next to somebody's name. They will support any presidential candidate that will reciprocate their kindness.

Objective reality is that echo chambers have proven extremely effective to those who listen to them and anyone who is a staunch Democrat or Republican falls neatly into this bucket
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>>768036
These people aren’t democrats or republicans you dumb fuck, and yes, liberals are morons
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>>768045
Really and why is that Professor, we have all endure your total lack of historical understanding, as for your wallet LMFAO, what do think I would do with your YEN exactly? convert it in to Bitcoin. Fuck off you mug.
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>>768047
Your ARG sounds really intense
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how can you run a coup against an illegitimate government?
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>>768064
Doubt he would have enough to buy a satoshi, in his old fashioned wallet, doubt he even knows what one is, or what its worth
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>>767075
Launching a massed attack against government institutions with the aim of overthrowing the legitimate government or interfering with the peaceful transfer of power is the very definition of a coup.
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>>767965
Several people died and the shart-in-marters brought pipe bombs, molotovs and zipties.
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>>767974
https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/07/954333542/police-confirm-death-of-officer-injured-during-attack-on-capitol
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>>768115
>Launching a massed attack against government institutions with the aim of overthrowing the legitimate government or interfering with the peaceful transfer of power is the very definition of a coup.
>a protest
Stop being a disingenuous faggot, also see >>767965
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>>767989
The only cure for Trumpism is a bullet to the back of the head.
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>>768127
Tell me anon, why did the man in this picture have a bunch of zipties while looking for members of Congress and the Vice President?
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1348681941936201728
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>>768126
>>768123
>>768128

Debunked

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-capitol-police/us-capitol-police-say-reports-of-officer-death-not-accurate-idUSKBN29D00G
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>>768128
Nice boy were you your mommy's favourite or is that the problem?
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>>768132
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick
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>>768139
>At approximately 9:30 p.m. this evening (January 7, 2021), United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.

>Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries. The death of Officer Sicknick will be investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department’s Homicide Branch, the USCP, and our federal partners.

>Officer Sicknick joined the USCP in July 2008, and most recently served in the Department’s First Responder’s Unit.

>The entire USCP Department expresses its deepest sympathies to Officer Sicknick’s family and friends on their loss, and mourns the loss of a friend and colleague.

>We ask that Officer Sicknick’s family, and other USCP officers’ and their families’ privacy be respected during this time.
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>>768143
>He returned to his division office and collapsed
Ok Buddy
>>
Meanwhile the death of another officer who responded to the riot, Howard Liebengood, was confirmed to be a suicide
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/10/another-capitol-police-death-officer-dies-by-suicide-after-responding-to-pro-trump-riot/?sh=2d9ca3b170dd
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>>768145
Yes, he collapsed, was taken to a hospital and died the next day. Are you denying that he died? Was the person who died his evil twin planted by Antifa and George Soros?
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>>768131
>this one pic of this one larper proves that we took a photo of, invalidates the whole protest
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>>768153
Police also found several pipe bombs
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/statement-steven-sund-chief-police
>As these other violent events were unfolding across the Capitol Complex, the USCP officers were simultaneously responding to a report of a pipe bomb in the 300 block of First Street, SE, and a second pipe bomb in the 400 block of Canal Street, SE. A suspicious vehicle was also identified in the 300 block of First Street, SE, at this time.

>The USCP Hazardous Materials Response Team determined that both devices were, in fact, hazardous and could cause great harm to public safety. The devices were disabled and turned over to the FBI for further investigation and analysis.
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So much for "Blue Lives Matter" when those same people murder cops.
I thought Trump was the "Law and Order" president?
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/four-dead-after-pro-trump-rioters-storm-capitol.html
at least 50 cops were also savaged by the terrorists, at least the ones who weren't colluding with them.
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Also MAGA terrorists are currently planning another insurrection on the 19th
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/congress-briefing-us-capitol-threats/index.html
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>>768151
>>768156
>>768159
>>768161
>>768161
>pipe bombs not neat the capital
>a Police officer did NOT die at the capital ("died of injuries related to protest", with no autospy report)
>literally one larper with zip ties
>cops get "ruffled" up

You are literally grasping here.
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>>768166
You know at this point I kinda wish it was an actual intersection, just to hear you faggots screech, instead the MSM is literately looking at anything to make this protest look evil, even going as far as saying a cop was beaten to death.
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>>768159
weak twitter bait
>>768161
nothing burger
>>768163
they should
>>768156
actually interesting
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>>768168
>violent armed mobs storm the capitol to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power
textbook definition of an insurrection
>even going so far as saying a cop was beaten to death
Officer Sickneck was indeed beaten to death by a deranged MAGA cultist, the same party who claims that Blue Lives Matter (except when they try to stop their terrorist insurrection)
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I almost hope there is another shart-in-mart rebellion on the 19th, only this time its met in force by law enforcement and the national guard and the streets run red with terrorist blood. Trumpism is a terminal disease.
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>>768166
Unironic copium right here
lmaoing at these "larpers" all getting arrested or getting stranded in DC since now they're on the no-fly list. You think that "i-it was just a prank, your honor" is gonna bail them out in front of a judge?
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>>768171
>Officer Sickneck was indeed beaten to death by a deranged MAGA cultist, the same party who claims that Blue Lives Matter (except when they try to stop their terrorist insurrection)
None of the source you post back this up, the fact that he collapsed at his office or manage to walk to his offic to begin with disproves your point. Also blaintly attributing his death to rioters without an autopsy report and video/testemonial evidence is literary disingenuous.
>violent armed mobs storm the capitol to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power
1) they were not armed
2) they were protesting government corruption
3) it's a public building
4) No more violence than the BLM protest, thus by media standards it was peacful

I really wouldn't have cared about all this if it wasn't the double standard with the BLM riots. And the fact that you refuse to see this make you an abhorrent person.
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>>768179
Are you saying that the US Capitol Police are lying? What motive would they have for fabricating his cause of death?
>they were not armed
they were very much armed
>they were protested government corruption
no, they were attempting to overthrow the government based on lies fed to them by Trump because he's butthurt that he got btfo
>it's a public building
doesn't give armed mobs the right to invade en masse and loot the place and literally sharting inmart
>no more violence than at the BLM protest
whataboutism. I'll flip that around, if this """protest""" is okay then you don't get to complain about anything BLM does.
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https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1349198860573421568
The traitors are within the House.
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>>768168
>even going as far as saying a cop was beaten to death.

Your forgetting they used a deadly fire extinguisher.

But they need to ramp it up, they are panicking, why impeach Trump if he is going to leave on the 20th? what are they so scared of, why try to shut down peoples way of communicating? what do they think the people are saying to each other?

I dont think Trump is going anywhere I think they know that the con is falling apart and they need to get the sniffer aka the creeper aka the grifter in fast to cover up all the corruption and lies, not just his crack head son and brother taking huge bribes, Piglosi and her GEC deal, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Soros, Brennan etc all of them are terrified that Trump will declassify the doc's and drain their corrupt swamp.

They have made two huge mistakes. They thought they were untouchable they have got away with it for so long they became arrogant and dont see whats actually happened how they were set up. The other one being the military, they sure as fuck dont want Briben as the their boss and will stick with Trump as are the good intel guys. things might get a bit strange over the next few days but I think its going to be alright.

https://video.wixstatic.com/video/bcb736_d0cfe8a5c08147f089bb45aafb92418e/360p/mp4/file.mp4
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>>768183
If Pelosi had any balls she would refuse to seat any House representative who attempted to contest the certification of electoral votes.
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>>768178
>larpers
larper, faggot, just one guy with the zip ties. And them getting charged and put all no-fly is political imprisonment. They were protesting government corruption, and SURPRISE, the government is corrupt. And your only rebuttal to this is that a protest where nobody died at the capital, expect protesters.

>>768181
Are you saying that the US Capitol Police are lying? What motive would they have for fabricating his cause of death?
YES. Reason for a corrupt government to quell a protest and label it a sedition. Huh I wonder einstien.

>they were very much armed
With what? Crutches? Iphones? Why didn't anyone get stabbed or shot?

>whataboutism. I'll flip that around, if this """protest""" is okay then you don't get to complain about anything BLM does.
ABSOLUTELY! I didn't complain about them in the first place, the media said they were okay, so I assumed they were okay, Imagine my shock when another peacful protest

>doesn't give armed mobs the right to invade en masse and loot the place and literally sharting inmart
Once again they were not armed
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>>768186
Yeah that would defiantly go well for a democracy you fucking idiot
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>>768187
>h-he's just a larper!
copium
>them getting charged and put all no fly is political imprisonment
Terrorists don't get to fly on American flights, sorry
>reason for a corrupt government to quell a protest
You mean the government that Trump is still currently in control of? Okay buddy
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>>768190
Article I, Section 5 of the US Constitution:
>"Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide."

The Speaker of the House can absolutely refuse to seat members, and both houses of Congress have refused to seat members in the past.
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>>768185
>https://video.wixstatic.com/video/bcb736_d0cfe8a5c08147f089bb45aafb92418e/360p/mp4/file.mp4


The video is from Texas by the way, the one state that didnt have dominion machines, funny that huh?
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>>768185
>I dont think Trump is going anywhere
I wouldn't get your hopes up.

>>768191
>You mean the government that Trump is still currently in control of? Okay buddy
Trump is not a monarch, what the hell are you talking about. Trump control of the goverment?
>who controls the SCOTUS
>who controls the SENATE and CONGRESS
>who controls the agencies
>who controls the federal judges
>who controls the buerocracy
>who controls the RNC
>who controls the DNC
>who controls the lobbyist
>who controls the PACS

Answer NOT trump
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>>768185
>Your forgetting they used a deadly fire extinguisher.
>But they need to ramp it up, they are panicking, why impeach Trump if he is going to leave on the 20th? what are they so scared of, why try to shut down peoples way of communicating? what do they think the people are saying to each other?
>I dont think Trump is going anywhere I think they know that the con is falling apart and they need to get the sniffer aka the creeper aka the grifter in fast to cover up all the corruption and lies, not just his crack head son and brother taking huge bribes, Piglosi and her GEC deal, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Soros, Brennan etc all of them are terrified that Trump will declassify the doc's and drain their corrupt swamp.
>They have made two huge mistakes. They thought they were untouchable they have got away with it for so long they became arrogant and dont see whats actually happened how they were set up. The other one being the military, they sure as fuck dont want Briben as the their boss and will stick with Trump as are the good intel guys. things might get a bit strange over the next few days but I think its going to be alright.
>https://video.wixstatic.com/video/bcb736_d0cfe8a5c08147f089bb45aafb92418e/360p/mp4/file.mp4


oh and did I forget the exec 2018 exec order regarding foreign interference and the Italian encryption satellites, silly me.
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>>768186
They've been already seated, you can only expel them now.
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>>768185
Yes, a fire extinguisher can weigh several pounds and hitting a 50-year-old man in the head with a large metal object can certainly cause a deadly brain bleed.

>Why impeach Trump if he is going to leave on the 20th?
Impeaching him even if it concludes after he has already left office would disqualify him from several post-presidential benefits, for example a pension, yearly travel allowance and a security detail.
The vote will also force the GOP into an extremely thorny position as while many GOP lawmakers are disgusted with Trump they are still terrified of the political power of his base; forcing them to vote on record for or against Trump will be an extremely rocky moment for the GOP.

>Military sure as fuck don't want Briben
Active military do not support Trump on average, and the top military brass hates him.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/joint-chiefs-condemn-sedition/index.html
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/
Remember that Trump was a draft dodger who regularly shat on military.
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this is starting to get sad.
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>>768193
>The Speaker of the House can absolutely refuse to seat members

Powell v. McCormack, 395 U.S. 486 (1969)
>The House of Representative may not exclude a duly-elected representative for any reason unless it is mentioned in the Qualifications of Members Clause.
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>>768199
>who controls the SCOTUS
Republicans
>who controls the SENATE
Republicans
>who controls the agencies
Republicans
>who controls the federal judges
Republicans
>who controls the RNC
Republicans
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>>768209
>RNC wants trumps
Stop being dishonest
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>>768208
>Louis C. Wyman (R-New Hampshire) was declared the victor of the US Senate contest in 1974 in New Hampshire by a narrow margin on Election Day (355 votes). A first recount gave the election instead to John A. Durkin (D-New Hampshire) by ten votes, but a second recount swung the result back to Wyman by only two votes. The state of New Hampshire certified Wyman as the winner, but Durkin appealed to the Senate, which had a sixty vote Democratic majority. The Senate refused to seat Wyman while considering the matter. After a long and contentious debate in the Senate, with Republicans filibustering attempts by the Democratic majority to seat Durkin instead, a special election was held, with Durkin winning handily and becoming Senator.
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>>768207
yeah I think it's just one lefty from reddit trying to get validation.
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>>768212
They did before January 6
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>>768215
see >>768208
>>
I think we are the only friends this redditor has.
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>>768219
Yes and this happened 5 years after that
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>>768216
>noooooo my hugbox
I'm sorry your terrorist hangouts like Parler all got nuked
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>>768225
his election was contested (narrow victory, needs recount), so he doesn't count as elected
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>>768222
Trips of Truth
>>
>MAGAts only defenses are "it wasn't such a big deal" or "b-b-but BLM"
Even /pol/ is slowly realizing that they got duped for 4 years
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>>768226
>>768228
Alright I am heading to bed, I hope for your sake and for the sanity of the people around you that there is someone still around for you to sperg at. We really don't need you leaving your cave.
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>>768232
Oops, didn't mean to reply to trips of truth anon.
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>>768232
What, are you looking for more government buildings to shit in?
https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/rioters-left-feces-urine-in-hallways-and-offices-during-mobbing-of-us-capitol/
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>>768201
>>>768185
>>Your forgetting they used a deadly fire extinguisher.
>>But they need to ramp it up, they are panicking, why impeach Trump if he is going to leave on the 20th? what are they so scared of, why try to shut down peoples way of communicating? what do they think the people are saying to each other?
>>I dont think Trump is going anywhere I think they know that the con is falling apart and they need to get the sniffer aka the creeper aka the grifter in fast to cover up all the corruption and lies, not just his crack head son and brother taking huge bribes, Piglosi and her GEC deal, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Soros, Brennan etc all of them are terrified that Trump will declassify the doc's and drain their corrupt swamp.
>>They have made two huge mistakes. They thought they were untouchable they have got away with it for so long they became arrogant and dont see whats actually happened how they were set up. The other one being the military, they sure as fuck dont want Briben as the their boss and will stick with Trump as are the good intel guys. things might get a bit strange over the next few days but I think its going to be alright.
>>https://video.wixstatic.com/video/bcb736_d0cfe8a5c08147f089bb45aafb92418e/360p/mp4/file.mp4
>oh and did I forget the exec 2018 exec order regarding foreign interference and the Italian encryption satellites, silly me.


Oh and did i forget, Executive order 13959 kicked in yesterday at 9.30 AM DC time, silly me. You lot just dont get it do you. Fucking low IQ Neo Nazi Socialist pedo apologists retards. I cant be bothered to waste any more time on you. Fuck off, but have a look at the link before you do, it might open your eyes to how youve all been played.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13959
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>>768249
>here's how Trump can still win
cope
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>>763561
People are armed and have a plan in coup attempts you fucking sperg.
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>>768170
>>768179
>>768216
>Bruxing intensifies.
>>
Kill them all!!!!!!

The People's Liberation Guard will replace them.
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>>768249
>The other one being the military, they sure as fuck dont want Briben as the their boss and will stick with Trump
The military disagrees.

https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20449003-jcs-message-to-the-joint-force-jan-12-21
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>>768347
no, anon is correct. You are a pedo apologist, I have been on 4chan for a over a year and you are a creep. how do you live with yourself so much anger and frustration, were you abused as a child?
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>>768413
Newfag
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>>768413
>I have been on 4chan for a over a year
fucking lmao
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>>768047
>Once he did 4 years of the big 6 (minus 1) worked around the clock at reversing their failure
The magats have deluded themselves into believing that Trump was somehow against corporations and for the disenfranchised white "worker," when in fact he's given more of a free hand to corporations to rape and pillage the consumer, worker and environment than any President since Nixon. Despite Trump being a failure in every other way, he is a masterful con man carnival barker able to convince his zombie cult that he has done the exact opposite from the reality that is in plain view, surpassing even P.T. Barnum.

And the amount of gaslighting by his cult members itt proves it. 1st they claim they were heros and achieved their goal. Next they claimed they "dindu nuffin, it was all muh boogeymen antifa, bussed in by Soros. Finally, they resort to gaslighting, denying that anything happened at all. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a cult, period!
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>Republicans in the House are now declaring that there is no need to impeach trump after he has finally promised to peacefully transfer power
>After he opposed the transfer of power to the point it escalated to violence
Fascinating.
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>>768413
Jesus christ stfu newfag and lurk moar.
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>>768473
You are completely misinterpreting that statement because you care more about your political party than your country man. The only magat involved in our conversation is the one you let live rent free in your head
Trump was and still is definitely for corporations in big business. But only if it benefited him
He didn't play ball the way they wanted him to. He wasn't put in power because he owed many favors to the corporatocracy. He was there because a bunch of shit posters meme him into power and a bunch of Russians wanted anybody except Hillary to win
The corporatocracy wanted Hillary to win during election cycle and during their propaganda campaign they created a beef with a buffoon who took it personally
The Corporate interests wanted him to do what benefited them. And he only played ball with who he wanted to.

You totally misinterpreted that with your political bias, fag
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>>768871
But the Corpos benefitted anyway, or are you under the impression that they're poorer or weaker now in 2021 than they were in 2016?
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>>768473
I'm going to continue insulting you.

His cult members and their core belief structure are only superficially different from your own cult.
You think you've deposed a fascist dictator
No. You deposed a greedy oligarch. He doesn't give a shit about what color skin is only if he can make a buck. A true capitalist and not a role model citizen.

You've replaced him with your own flavor of cult. But instead of a personality cult this is a ideological cult.
Your media sings the praises of Biden because it is in their interest to do so. Your life has becomed politically charged because they are causing you to be such.

Yes the gas lighting by his cult members was real and so is the gas lighting by your cult.

Take an unbiased look at the last five years at the similarities.
2016 Election stolen by Russian actors or fair, depending on who was reporting
2020 Election stolen by chinese actors or fair, depending on who was reporting

2016 Rioting, vandalism and theft by terrorists/protesters depending on whom is reporting
2020 Rioting, vandalism and theft by terrorists/protesters depending on whom is reporting

2016 talk of impeachment before first day in office
2020 talk of impeachment before first day in office

2016 corrupt business dealings of president elect and/or family exposed
2020 corrupt business dealings of president elect and/or family exposed

I could go on.
Please leave your narrow worldview
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>>768876
No you're putting words in my mouth.
Yes certain corporations benefited no doubt.
Are you under the impression that Trump was backed by every corporate interest in the US and Biden is backed by none?

Because I assure you that both have their backers and their special interests

I also assure you that by nature of how these people were elected president one owes more favors than the other one does (at least to US media institutions, others are somewhat harder to discern because you can't just turn on the TV and tell who their good boy is by watching for a few minutes)
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>>768871
>He didn't play ball [with mega corporations] the way they wanted him to.
What? He did exactly what the corporate interests wanted 100% of the time. He was their lapdog.
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>>768878
>muh both sides are just as bad retardation
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>>766624
I dont get you.
> good direction is gibs by government
> becoming more dependent on a ruling caste for our livelihood will show them who is boss!
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>>768871
based

he doesnt care about the pork barrel, biden is there for it, always has been.
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>>768878
>I'm going to continue insulting you.
>His cult members and their core belief structure are only superficially different from your own cult.
>You think you've deposed a fascist dictator
>No. You deposed a greedy oligarch. He doesn't give a shit about what color skin is only if he can make a buck. A true capitalist and not a role model citizen.
>You've replaced him with your own flavor of cult. But instead of a personality cult this is a ideological cult.
>Your media sings the praises of Biden because it is in their interest to do so. Your life has becomed politically charged because they are causing you to be such.
>Yes the gas lighting by his cult members was real and so is the gas lighting by your cult.
>Take an unbiased look at the last five years at the similarities.
>2016 Election stolen by Russian actors or fair, depending on who was reporting
>2020 Election stolen by chinese actors or fair, depending on who was reporting
>2016 Rioting, vandalism and theft by terrorists/protesters depending on whom is reporting
>2020 Rioting, vandalism and theft by terrorists/protesters depending on whom is reporting
>2016 talk of impeachment before first day in office
>2020 talk of impeachment before first day in office
>2016 corrupt business dealings of president elect and/or family exposed
>2020 corrupt business dealings of president elect and/or family exposed
>I could go on.
>Please leave your narrow worldview
Thank you for taking the time and effort to totally own one of the TAI (Shareblue) shills that has been polluting 4chins since Shillary was running. Well Done.
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>>768249
>>>Your forgetting they used a deadly fire extinguisher.
>>>But they need to ramp it up, they are panicking, why impeach Trump if he is going to leave on the 20th? what are they so scared of, why try to shut down peoples way of communicating? what do they think the people are saying to each other?
>>>I dont think Trump is going anywhere I think they know that the con is falling apart and they need to get the sniffer aka the creeper aka the grifter in fast to cover up all the corruption and lies, not just his crack head son and brother taking huge bribes, Piglosi and her GEC deal, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Soros, Brennan etc all of them are terrified that Trump will declassify the doc's and drain their corrupt swamp.
>>>They have made two huge mistakes. They thought they were untouchable they have got away with it for so long they became arrogant and dont see whats actually happened how they were set up. The other one being the military, they sure as fuck dont want Briben as the their boss and will stick with Trump as are the good intel guys. things might get a bit strange over the next few days but I think its going to be alright.
>>>https://video.wixstatic.com/video/bcb736_d0cfe8a5c08147f089bb45aafb92418e/360p/mp4/file.mp4
>>oh and did I forget the exec 2018 exec order regarding foreign interference and the Italian encryption satellites, silly me.
>Oh and did i forget, Executive order 13959 kicked in yesterday at 9.30 AM DC time, silly me. You lot just dont get it do you. Fucking low IQ Neo Nazi Socialist pedo apologists retards. I cant be bothered to waste any more time on you. Fuck off, but have a look at the link before you do, it might open your eyes to how youve all been played.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13959

Oh and did I forget to ask you where is the bulk of the American fleet currently located, do you know?
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>>768166
>pipe bombs not near the capitol
pipe bombs planned for the capitol, though. You going to ignore that part?
also going to ignore the part how bombs were found at the DNC and RNC buildings? Why do you think
>there were loud, preplanned explosive distractions placed far away from where the insurrectionists' main target was
sounds like a good defense of them? This is pretty boilerplate military tactics, which makes sense when you consider half these retards are former jarheads looking to put their training to good use again.
>A police officer did NOT die at the capitol
complete cope, two died, dozens more seriously injured, apparently pretty much all present were minorly injured since the police refuse to release the exact number of wounded, saying it would
>give malicious actors too much information on normal troop deployment numbers in situations like this
meaning the injuries report is pretty much as long as the personnel report.
LAW AND ORDER! THIN BLUE LINE! LET'S ARREST EVERY FAGGOT AT THAT MARCH! ASSAULT ON POLICE CAN NEVER BE TOLERATED!
>literally one larper with zip ties
literally thousands of larpers, lmao, you think it's not larping to show in in-person to a planned "war" that you and your buddies have been chatting about online for a few months to kick out the other guys and keep your based president in power? Every person there was a larper of the first order. Which you should know, because you're a larper who has been larping with them online for the past few months. You've seen all the posts, about how the election was rigged and there was a "storm coming", that real patriots would have to rise up and take back their country, by force if necessary. Trumpers have been screaming
>CROSS THE RUBICON, DON!
literally nonstop since the election results came in. Do you not know what that is a reference to? Did you think they were joking/trolling? Nah, they're retards, they really do think like that.
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>>768878
There is no cult surrounding Biden and every Democrat recognises he is the poster boy for centrism. It's only the extreme right wingers who attempt to pretend he's a communist or socialist. Sure, he's had to appear to be somewhat accomodating the Progressive wing of the Democrat party, but he knows full well it won't go very far. In short, no one in the Democrat party is exhibiting any kind of cult behavior remotely approaching that of the typical magat. And one reason the Lincoln Project became such a force was many Republicans were appalled by the way Trump set himself up as a Dear Leader and gained a rabid cult following

In short, many Independents, Republicans, and all Democrats voted for Biden, partly because of his abject failure in even attempting to mitigate the economic and pandemic crises, but also because 4 more years of a Dear Leader with a cult as loyal as North Korea's Kim's followers was unthinkable. And you know what? 1/6 proved us correct beyond doubt.
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>>769214
>In short, no one in the Democrat party is exhibiting any kind of cult behavior remotely approaching that of the typical magat.
Well, they are in the sense that their hatred for him and the GOP is so all consuming, they fail to realize they aren't one in the same.

Not all of them, of course, anymore than all the GOP are MAGA, but enough to work in Trump's favor - which is why he hasn't stepped down. He won't, until one party or the other proves it can leave its play book, and can react like a human being to a human situation, rather than machines that can't think for themselves, which exist only as tools for humans to rally humans to dominate other humans.
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Story is trying to rewrite the narrative against trump. Antifa in Maga or weirdo clothes were let in by security.
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>>769229
MAGAts don't get to call anyone else cultists when they just got conned into invading the Capitol by a con artist who is now throwing throwing them under the bus because this time he might actually get impeached and convicted.
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>>769292
Didn't say they should be able to - just saying beware that they aren't the only ones being fooled into walking into a trap.
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>>769214
>There is no cult surrounding Biden

Really you sure about that? Type ANTIFA.com in your browser and see where it takes you.

No cult huh? go and check you naïve fool
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>>769384
Are you really such a naïve fool as to not realize anyone can buy and redirect any domain?

Antifa in America, for the most part, is about as organized as stupidity, with much less support - more a flag that people pick up in a moment of rage than a functioning group. ...And to get that many white people to raid the capital on the 6th, they pretty much would have had to get every white man ever to take up their flag there, all at once.





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