Sigh... he's definitely getting acquitted.>Kyle Rittenhouse, in a jailhouse interview, said he used stimulus money to get a gun. The first man he shot had just left a psychiatric hospital.>In a summer roiled by protests for racial justice, Kenosha, Wis., moved into the national spotlight in August after a White police officer shot a Black man named Jacob Blake seven times in the back.>Peaceful protests during the day were followed by rioting and civil unrest at night. Just before midnight on Aug. 25, tensions peaked when a 17-year-old named Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum. Moments later, Rittenhouse shot two other men, one fatally.>Rittenhouse was arrested and charged with multiple counts of homicide and weapons offenses, but right-wing groups have rallied to his cause, celebrating him as a hero who sought to protect Kenosha from destructive rioting and who fired in self-defense. The events have become a litmus test for a deeply divided nation.>A Washington Post examination of video and police records, along with other documents, sheds new light on the mindsets of the two people principally involved - one a gun enthusiast who thought of himself as a medic, the other a homeless man with a criminal record who was discharged that day from a psychiatric hospital.>The Post found that Rittenhouse, who was too young to buy a rifle, had arranged for an adult friend to buy the weapon for him using money Rittenhouse had received from a government stimulus program.>The Post interviewed Rittenhouse, who spoke publicly for the first time since his arrest. He said he did not regret that he had a gun that night. "I feel I had to protect myself," he said. "I would have died that night if I didn't."https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/11/19/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-interview/
Why did a 17 year old get a stimulus check?
>i would have died that night if I didn't have a gunNo one would have died if he just didn't fucking show up.
>>732934Sshhhhhh you're destroying the narrative
>>732931>Sigh... he's definitely getting acquitted.Yeah just like James Fields and those fat body rednecks that chased a guy down in their truck and shot him when he went for the gun they had trained on him. Definitely.
>>732932This is why America needs to ban all the guns. Disarm the military and police and abolish them.
>>732962Because 17 year olds but guns with stimulus checks? 3/10 bait
>>732934No one would have died if the rioters hadn't shown up.
>>732966Damn it you found me out. I gotta bait better. Cheers for the bait rate!
>>733010The rioters wouldn't have shown up if the police didn't shoot people in the back who were trying to break up a fight.
>>733021How many times have you spammed that parody video here, my man? 50?
>>733020I'm pretty sure the terrorists who murdered 2 Americans would have shown up anyway
I mean, I'm not in favor of the right morons, but this guy was 100% in his rights to shoot those guys. he was definitely in danger of being beaten to death (being chased down by a dude trying to cave his head in with a skateboard), and trying to say "Well he shouldn't have been there!" is retarded.if a black guy goes to protest KKK members and has to shoot one when attacked, he'll be hailed as a hero. Same principal here.
>>733020They shot him in the back because he had just wrestled free from them and walked around his car to get some mystery item from near the driver's seat. This in a town where a cop had been shot just a few weeks earlier, so it's not like it's unheard of for someone to grab a gun and fight back in the area, especially when this guy seemed intent on resisting.Even if it had happened exactly how you slanted it that wouldn't justify arson and vandalism against random businesses and cars.
>>733095Deadly force wasn't necessary.That's what makes people angry enough to riot over it. They could have tazed him or shot rubber bullets or something. There is something wrong with a police policy that says shoot first ask questions later.
>>733098>They could have tazed himThey tazed him twice while he was walking around his car. He didn't flinch. Maybe his clothes were too thick, maybe he was high out of his mind, maybe they just didn't connect right, but whatever the case was the cops did try to taze him first.
Why the fuck were the protestors even out in the middle of the night looting, trying to hurt people and screeching? The screeching is telling, they were obviously brainwashed cult members and seriously mentally ill, they just randomly decide someone is "racist" and go attack them, yet it is all socially acceptable. You shouldn't be doing this in America where people can defend themselves. Stupid stupid stupid.Obviously George Floyd was killed due to incompetence not racism, if the motive was racism it was a shitty game plan with many witnesses and 2 minority officers alongside him. It is unjust that people who can't even think properly are allowed a vote equal to ours and vote for some demagogue appealing to their emotions. What a disgusting society and disgusting world we live in. It was bad they died, kinda, I'm not shedding a tear though.
>>733104#dont vccare. i am for banning US related new here. fuck your fuckign dick contests.
>>733100They could have tazed him more, then. In other countries where guns aren't as common they would have brute force rushed him. The point is he didn't have to die simply because the police were afraid.
>>733110none cares. fuck US related news. stop spaming here you fucks.
>>733111Go back to BКoнтáктe, faggot
>>733113none cares! fuck you! stop spaming americuntz news here shlomo!
>>733115America will infect the rest of the world eventually. What happens there matters everywhere else. Most black people in Europe view themselves culturally as African American and behave the same way.
>>733110>In other countries where guns aren't as common they would have brute force rushed himHe had a knife, or these cops would have kept him on the ground where they had him to begin with. It sounds like you really don't know much about what happened here. Here are the two videos for some reason put next to each other and in-sync instead of played separately. I can't find the curb-side angle by itself right now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1uv7DU8Q2Y
>>733124Still not a valid reason for him to be executed.
>>733125We should just let people go if they have a weapon"Hey sarge, that guy's running away!""No can do son. He's got a knife. He's free now."
>>733125Is this bait? Tell me how the cops should have behaved in this situation.
>>733132he dindu nuffin RASISET
>>733098>Deadly force wasn't necessary.Yes it was, and this is what drives me up a God damn wall. You have people who know nothing about policing or firearms, who don't have the balls to be a cop, making hindsight calls like this jackass here:>>733110>tazer don't work>HURR USE MOAR TAZUR DUURRRRRRR>IN SOVIET RUSSIA WE USE BRUTE FORCEI don't care how your faggot country does things. Your faggot country also doesn't allow frivolous lawsuits to get thrown around. This is why Germany can have a cop get away with shooting someone in the leg for brandishing a knife - while stupid as fuck that officer doesn't have to worry about going to court over that decision. We do! And by the way how many fucking videos do I have to post in this thread of people being tazed and still not being stopped? Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s8oFOykyIoAt least two tazers on this guy and he still is able to run up and stab an officer who didn't shoot when she should have because she doesn't want fuckheads like you accusing her of racism. And you're all well they shoulda just use more tazer - No shut up! Just shut the fuck up!
>>732931>Sigh... he's definitely getting acquitted.u sound madwhy u mad tho
>>733125Well he wasn't executed. Blake is still alive today:https://apnews.com/article/6ce0c81bc49760736a3e923c04835a82
>>732934With the riots and gun activists showing up, I doubt his lack of presence would prevented someone from getting shot.
>>732934>you wouldn't have gotten raped if you didn't dress like a slut
>>732931>He's a fucking racist mass shooter who migrated to execute peaceful protesters with his weapon of war! The TV said so!>W-well he shouldn't have hopped states to be there like all the peaceful protesters from Portland! He should have stayed home, you know, on the nearest boarder, a few miles away from where he was attacked!>W-well he was attacked but he shouldn't have defended himself against the masked mob of armed and violent people later discovered to be pedophiles, batterers and other flavors of subhuman criminal; he had a gun, he went too far!>W-well sure several domestic terrorists were said to be armed themselves and one of them is caught on camera trying to kill Rittenhouse with his own weapon of war, but he was justified, he was a good guy with a g-! wait, no wait a second >W-well he shouldn't have loaned a adult friend the money to purchase a gun he then borrowed to defend himself! That's just a legal loophole! <------ we are here>W-well he got two years community service for gunning three people down, on camera, in public! This minor will still be raped in prison forever! Just in my head! Like usual!Kyle Rittenhouse will be armed and dealing with people like Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz again in a few years tops. With a badge and a bodycam this time, though. No more gibs for CNN and WaPo. If they need raw footage to edit for inciting riots and attacks on authority figures then they'll have to pay to play. It'll be a great way to fund the police in places where they weren't cucked or abolished because some 'democratic' socialist successfully memed the lowest common denominator into arson and shooting black cops to end black oppression from cops lmao
A retard and his open carry are loath to part.The terrorist Rittenhouse may even get off of his crime. What his terrorist accepting friends tell him and he apparently believes is an indictment on that segment of society. The JV division of SEAL Team 6 larpers should never have existed.
HE'S OUT ON BAIL NIGGAS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>>732934this lmao He went to confront people. He did. He shot some. Now he's in huuuuge trouble.You don't just go out of your way to acquire a gun you're not supposed to have, cross state lines to a place you expect there to be what you perceive to be dangerous looters in order to 'protect' private property that isn't yours without the owners permission, shoot people and expect to successfully claim self defense. The shit's laughable.
>>733404>I doubt his lack of presence would prevented someone from getting shot.Seems like a retarded thing so say considering he was literally the only one that shot anybody that night, anon. >>733430Imagine what a dipshit you have to be to compare showing up armed to a protest with the intent on harassing people with a loaded weapon and being the victim of a sexual assault.
oooohhh hes a naughty boi
>>733509Imagine what a dipshit you have to be to watch a video of a kid being chased by a fucking rapist while some other asshole fires a gun in the air behind him, with the kid being forced to shoot that pedophile in a split second life or death decision and then say well if he wasn't there nobody would have died. I hope your family meets someone like Rosenbaum.
>>733078He literally shot first.
>>733517Technically rioters were shooting the whole night so they shot first.
>>733519>Technically rioters were shooting the whole night[citation required]
>>732931they used to hang murderers back in the day, America is indeed cucked to shit
>>733523This is glass half empty thinking. Sure Grosskreutz will probably walk AND have the full lockstep support of the news media behind him all the way, but the other two won't be around to hurt children or attempt murder while being protected by journalists any more. That should be a win in anyone's book.
>>733519That's the exact opposite of a technicality.
>>733522You could watch any of the videos and hear the gunshots. The guy who fired from behind Kyle right before he turned and shot Rosenbaum admitted to it and has been charged, if you need a specific example.https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/man-charged-with-firing-handgun-in-air-before-kenosha-shootings/
A woman pushed into an incoming subway train tonight I can't imagine why anyone would live in a city in this country
>>733519Not applicable to self defense, even if true. You can't pick a fight and claim self defense
>>733538To get away from the country folk.
>>733544Good thing he didn't pick a fight then. In fact he ran away from everyone who he ended up shooting until they caught up to him and posed an immediate threat. Unless you think existing with a gun is picking a fight, in which case you'll need to argue that with the state of Wisconsin, which allows open carry.
>>732931>>732945>>732962>>733110>>733544Lmao Prepare for another Zimmerman. You believed the media circus that hyped him up into the worst person imaginable, but never actually looked into the facts of the matter to realize that he didn't actually do anything wrong.The saddest part is that it's so pervasive that it got his own family to turn on him. That's fucked up. The media can turn family members against one another by simply twisting the truth around.
>>732962Man it would be fucking awesome to have this happen and have China just roll over California the next day. I would fucking cheer, even. >>733532>full lockstep support of the news medianigga the media is painting him as Hitler right now for just posting bail, a right of all US citizens. What fucking universe do you live in?
Literally everyone involved in the shooting was a retard. I'd wager Rittenhouse walks. This is the best analysis of the shooting I've seen so far and I'd encourage everyone from every political position to read it since it has something for everyone.https://www.bullshido.net/anatomy-of-a-catastrophe/
>>733522Besides all the police radio chatter? How about this guy:>https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/man-charged-with-firing-handgun-in-air-before-kenosha-shootings/>https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/10/15/kenosha-protester-charged-firing-gun-prior-rittenhouse-shots/3667399001/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_6kdiPVL_0>>733533Whatever. People were shooting before, during, and after Kyle got his rounds off.>>733544>You can't pick a fight and claim self defense>Literally running away from every single person he had to shoot as a last resort every single time.Eureka! I've invented a new form of aggression! I call it reverse-aggression! Muhahahahahahahaha!
>>733560>nigga the media is painting him as Hitler right now for just posting bail, a right of all US citizens. What fucking universe do you live in?Grosskreutz is not Rittenhouse.
>>733559>You believed the media circus that hyped him up into the worst person imaginable, but never actually looked into the facts of the matter to realize that he didn't actually do anything wrong.My favorite part is how they tried to push the "Kyle is a white supremacist" angle a few times, by people such as our future president.>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kyle-rittenhouse-to-sue-joe-biden-for-linking-kenosha-shooter-to-white-supremacy-in-tweet/ar-BB19BEVKAnd I know this really isn't fair since it's BET but it's still hilarious how badly they got their facts wrong.>https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/08/27/-kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-white-supremacist-shooter-shooting.html#!
>>733562Your article is trash and I hope my adblocker prevented me from give you any click money.
>>733569Thanks for your criticism. What in the article did you disagree with?
>>733566Damn right Grosskreutz is not Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz is being handled with kids gloves. This guy with a criminal background caught on several cameras about to use an illegal handgun on a minor and he's STILL out of jail, at protests talking on megaphones and crying his eyes out in CNN interviews.
>>733571The preachy, arrogant attitude combined with wrong information was a real turnoff.>this shining star was given ILLEGAL(1) access to dangerous weaponsThe footnote talks about adult supervision for it to be legal, but the law does not.https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/60>Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18>(3)(c)This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593>941.28 Possession of short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.You can look through this, but no one has ever claimed his rifle was short-barreled, so he's safe.>29.304 Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of ageKyle was 17, so this doesn't apply.>29.593 Requirement for certificate of accomplishment to obtain hunting approvalHe wasn't hunting, so this doesn't apply.The article also spent some time shit-talking Rittenhouse's mother when as far as I know she's always said she didn't know he was going to the protests and that she thought he shouldn't have been there.https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-mother-kenosha-20201110-ikckkevit5epzjydc52szyog34-story.htmlThen the super witty/hip reference section titles did what ignorance alone couldn't and I quit reading.
>>733564>>Literally running away from every single person he had to shoot as a last resort every single time.He ran across state borders to run away into a crowd of people and shoot while lying he's an EMT?
>>733595Maybe they should've let the good ones live, but no, gotta drug them up and make them live in squalor.What do you mean the people we regularly pump drugs and deny education are uneducated criminal masses? How could this have ever happened. White people made this mess and are just stomping around is only contributing to the mess
>>733586Thanks for actually providing details.>He wasn't hunting, so this doesn't apply.If he doesn't have a hunting certificate, he's not in compliance with 29.593, which is an exception in underage gun laws designed only to apply _only_ to minors who are hunting. The legislative intent of the hunting provision is to _relax_ gun ownership restrictions for minors if they are hunting, not to tighten them in the cases of hunting only. He and his friend Dominick were both aware of that - it's why he purchased the gun in Ritttenhouse's name.>The article also spent some time shit-talking Rittenhouse's mother when as far as I know she's always said she didn't know he was going to the protests and that she thought he shouldn't have been there.I agree that's untrue. In its defense, the article was written the week of the shooting, and her mother didn't give any interviews until November. I haven't read it since the week of the shooting myself and remembered it because it was in the news.
>>733599Every fucking day it's something new with you people.>He ran across state borders to run away into a crowd of people and shoot while lying he's an EMT?Show me where he said he was an EMT. Protip: calling yourself a medic doesn't equal the same thing. And we've already been over the part where he was running towards police to turn himself into their protective custody when he got swarmed by a mob of retards who had to be shot again.Then had his hands up trying to turn himself in to police who apparently had better things to do and drove on by.Then decided that since the police couldn't be bothered the safest place he could have gone would be home... or would you rather he just stand there in the street and wait for the mob to try again? While by the way they're shooting randomly the whole time.And again with the state borders bullshit, as if he crossed into another country and didn't live 15 minutes away. Keep pushing this narrative.
>>733617>If he doesn't have a hunting certificate, he's not in compliance with 29.593How can he not be, when 29.593 is specifically about obtaining hunting approval? If he doesn't have invalid hunting approval then he's in compliance with 29.593. Not that I would generally trust it as a source, but the morons at wikipedia agree with my interpretation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Wisconsin>it's why he purchased the gun in Ritttenhouse's nameRittenhouse lives in Illinois, where the laws are different. If he lived in Wisconsin he may have bought it for himself, though there may be other laws regarding purchase of a firearm that are more restrictive.
>>733622So he's lied
>>733627>How can he not be, when 29.593 is specifically about obtaining hunting approval? Every carveout in 948.60 is designed to make guns easier to own for hunters, not harder. 29.593 is referring to the process of getting a certificate of accomplishment.If you read it the other way, the carveout applied would only apply to the miniscule set of people who had specifically obtained approval authorizing hunting but (somehow) cheated their way through the process without a certificate of accomplishment, which is almost nobody. It wouldn't even apply to straight up unauthorized hunters.
>>733628Show - Me - Where - He - Said - He - Was - An - E - M - T[clapping intensifies]
>>733629The law honestly doesn't seem like something an individual can fail to comply with. It reads like rules regarding when the state will grant hunting licenses. Nowhere is it mentioned that a license is required to open carry, and a distinction recognized by the state between hunting and other use is heavily implied by the title of 29.304: "Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age."Neither of us is a lawyer, so we may just have to disagree here and wait for the case to proceed to find out how a Wisconsin judge will rule on it. Regardless of that disagreement, the article only mentioned that there was no adult supervising him without a mention of the details we've been arguing, so I'd still call it a shortcoming on the author's part.
>>733110 (You)(You) and people like (You) are the reason why we can't have adult conversations about Reality. (You) lack the capability to comprehend basic facts and the basic Life Experiences to comprehend how to react in an emergency situation.
>>733120>black people in Europe view themselves culturally as African Americantrans: Europe is too retarded to take care of itself.Explain to us how anyone in Europe can consider themselves to be "American." How can any black person from Africa not understand what country they are living in? Whose fault is that?Your thesis that it's "America's fault" that black people in Europe don't know what country they are in requires extensive citations and examples. Start with what efforts European countries make to educate and integrate people migrating and immigrating into those countries ... and specifically the how and why America is supposed to be taking care of that responsibility?
>>733125It's one of the most valid reasons in all of human history to end up dead. The use of the term "executed" here is bullshit. We arm law enforcement, and train them to use those arms, VERY SPECIFICALLY to have the force required to handled armed and dangerous people threatening the public welfare.Three other points:1) non-lethal forces was attempted several times and it didn't work2) he was actively attempting to get a knife out of his vehicle3) he lived
>>733634Thanks for your honest engagement. I guess one of the downsides of ultra-hot takes is that they age really badly when anything new comes in.
>>733648>We arm law enforcement, and train them to use those arms, VERY SPECIFICALLY to have the force required to handled armed and dangerous people threatening the public welfareIts weird because in other countries police are trained to help the public. In the U.S. police are trained to combat the public. The "warrior mentality" theme to police training is what makes us one of the largest most brutal police states among first world countries. More so, police in the U.S. were not established to protect people - they were established to protect property and corporate interest. The notion that police departments train their officers the way they do for the purpose of protecting the American public is fucking laughably dumb.
>>733181Nobody cares, faggot cop. People like you should be back on Facebook/reddit.
>>733668Remember how I mentioned Germany? Polizei doesn't have to worry about little things like police brutality. They will fuck you up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feSYDx8bQZMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhTWEdiMRpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l9R5Fy9Lcc
>>732962How about just a ban on you? And a ban on bans?
>>733691>implying police don't act this way (and far worse) in the US
>>733711>non lethals first!>they deployed NL and it didnt work>let him run away!>not going to let a violent criminal just get away>5 times in the back!>because he chose to try and attempt to resist and escape>us police are the only ones doing this!>international police on camera doing the same shit>b-but us police are worse!got your goalpoasts on wheels retard?
>>733711Last time I saw a video of a US cop slapping a teen for mouthing off was a video in Syracuse and that cop was immediately fired. I've never even seen a video of two US cops wrestling with a woman and one of them decides to full on man punch a young woman in the face. And please show me a video of a teen getting kidney punched like that. Imagine the lawsuits that would follow if US police acted the same way as Polizei in those videos. Imagine the riots if they did this to a person of color.
"Blake was not charged with taking the car or money, but was charged with sexual assault and other offenses in connection with the incident. He was wanted in connection with those charges at the time of the shooting. "In a CNN Article. He was there to take her kids. Justice served for an African American mom?
>>733691Why would american police bother with hitting them if they can just shoot you?
>>733786Why would American police bother with shooting them if they weren't a threat to life or serious injury (like a knife Blake was going for)?
>>733508it's amazing when people feel the need to blame everything on one side. Like there is someone who is right. nothing is right in this situation, there will be no winners. only lessons we will probably forget about.
also is it weird that I am a leftist female who wants to groom and own the young squishy Kyle?
>>733816Well you're not the first rapist who really wanted a piece of Kyle.
If anything the US has taught us multicuturalism and diversity does not work.
This whole incident shows how disgusting and bias the modern left is and how they use the media to subvert justice and freedom.Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent and I hope that guy who got shot in the arm is imprisoned or killed for what he did at some point in the future.
Kyle did nothing wrong. A literal convicted child rapist smelled Kyle's boipussi and couldn't help but to rape so he tried to rape Kyle, Kyle shot the rapist to ward off a rape. Then a convicted domestic abuser/alleged child rapist and some black dude tried to lynch Kyle as he was running back to the cops to turn himself in. Kyle shot the domestic abuser to avoid being lynched. And then some jewish bergler pulled a gun on Kyle and tried to shoot him and Kyle disabled his jewish gun arm.All of it was justified and in self defense. If the rapist didn't try to rape he would still be alive. If the domestic abuser didn't try to lynch he would still be alive. If the burglar didn't try to shoot kyle, he would still have 2 arms.
>No one would have died if idiots weren't rioting over a dead crackhead.Ftfy
>>733844It wasn't the crackhead in Kenosha. It was a rapist, with a knife, at the house of the woman he raped.
>>733517A rioter shot into the air 20 feet behind Rittenhouse. Then Rosenbaum tried to grab the rifle. Then Rittenhouse shot.
>>733078Hahahaha! I too am also a totally random not alt-right person who just so happens to agree with all of their talking points and defends them online! We should meet up sometime and touch dicks!
>>733104Why the fuck was the Kenosha Shooter even out in the middle of the night shooting, trying to hurt people and open carrying? The shooting is telling, he is obviously a brainwashed cult member and seriously mentally ill, he just randomly decides someone is "communist" and attacks them, yet it is all socially acceptable. You shouldn't be doing this in America where unarmed protesters can't defend themselves. Stupid stupid stupid.Obviously Donald Trump was voted out due to incompetence not voter fraud, if the motive was voter fraud it was a shitty game plan with many witnesses and 2 minority officers alongside him. It is unjust that people who can't even think properly are allowed a vote equal to ours and vote for some demagogue appealing to their emotions. What a disgusting society and disgusting world we live in. It was bad 250000+ died, kinda, I'm not slidding a log though.
>>733127Unless you are a fat /pol/cel like kyle, and then you can walk away with a machine gun on your back after telling the cops you just shot someone.
>>733966Go back to Twitter, fucktard
>>733966looks like u found the astroturfer
>>733966If you can't beat talking points that you're apparently very familiar with then you should consider the possibility that you're wrong. If you can beat them then you should present your own argument instead of hiding behind sarcasm and hypocritical accusations of dogmatism.
EVERYONE INVOLVED IS AT FAULT NO SIDE CAN CLAIM THE HIGH GROUND WHEN THEY ARE ALL GUILTY PARTIES. The protestors/rioters are guilty parties for protesting and rioting and the militia faggots are guilty for "taking the law into their own hands" when they fucking crossed state lines to go into an active protest/riot that was not in their fucking neighborhood so they are just as guilty for being instigating pieces of shit. Let the cops and local government deal with the shitheads if worse came to worse they would have gotten national guard involved but because faggots like rittenhouse and his facebook militia you now went and given your option a weapon to fight back with because now you broke the fucking law by going out and larping as law enforcement. Its the old fucking adage of never interrupting your enemy when they are making a mistake the protestors were fucking rioting and destroying their own homes over some fucking criminal but now that dipshit rittenhouse got involved guess whats in the news headlines now? The retard wannabe militia guy that killed a protestor.
>>734099>implying news headlines were ever going to be about arson and vandalism at "mostly peaceful protests"After what had happened at Minneapolis, Portland, and other cities it was very obvious that no government help or media sympathy was coming for victims of these riots.
>>734100>"no government help or media sympathy was coming for victims of these riots."well guess who got sympathy for the riots in Wisconsin thanks to the shooting
>>734103Believe it or not no one's stance changed after the shooting. The people who thought the protests were riots still think they're riots and that the thugs involved assaulted a community hero. The people who thought the protests were justifiably raising awareness of police brutality still think they're justifiably raising awareness of police brutality and that a white supremecist pig gunned down peaceful protesters.Riots across the country had been happening for a few months before this, so everyone already had their prejudices prepared for the Kenosha shooting.
>>732934And no one will died in BLM people stay home forever
Kyle protected himself, he is a good person being attacked by evil people gun or not. Mobs are incredibly dangerous with or without a gun. So are any improvised weapons.
>>734099This post is pure cope and damage control.Stopping crimes from being commited is not vigilantism or "being a milita faggot" or "larping as law enforcment". It's called being a good and responsibile citizen.None of this would have happened if the rioters hadden't attacked Rittenhouse.None of this would have happened if the rioters and protesters had stayed home like they should have due to covid.Rittenhouse was only there as a response to the rioters/protesters, they started it.Any other point of view is pure cope.
>>734224>It's called being a good and responsibile citizenyeah its fine when people lynch someone. its just being a responsibile citizen. nobody has any right to their day in court. just kill em
>travelling hundreds of miles to shot someone you don't know is "self defense"Didn't know we had so many Doctors of Law around here
>>734224Terrorist drives to place he shouldn’t have been larping as seal team six. Terrorist then murders several Americans. Claimed self defense due to an American holding a plastic bag was scary. Bailed out by terrorist financier.You can continue to support terrorism or not anon, up to you.
>>734224THAT IS THE JOB OF THE POLICE. If you want to stop crime personally, become a LEO. Jesus fucking Christ, the only people stupider than the faggots LARPing as cops are the real cops egging them on, especially when they turn around and wonder why no one's buying their 'law and order' spiel anymore. Why should citizens respect the law when criminals enforce it?
>>734255>>734252>>734240This, this and this. There are concepts such as due process and justice, and the Kenosha shooting pisses on them. You cannot in good conscience claim to support 'law and order' when you support vigilantes operating outside those bounds; this goes for citizens AND the police themselves.
>>732931>Sigh... he's definitely getting acquittedOh fuck off faggot, thats good news
>>734261>faggotMost terrorist are literal faggots, like you apparently since your fascinated with it.
>>734074The major talking point for (you) is that (you) are an amerishart pussy, who needs muh guns! to feel safe in a big scary world full of evil lefties and their evil nefarious schemes like free healthcare and human rights.In the rest of the civilised world, real men use these things called fists to defend ourselves or resolve violent disputes, you should consider it instead of a fucking anti aircraft rifle or several incendiary grenades next time you get #triggered.An underage incel went to a protest armed with a deadly weapon to intimidate the people there, and then thought murdering a few of them when they tried to disarm him was a good idea. And fair enough, one of them came at him with a plastic bag.Rest assured though, the Kenosha Shooter will be raping people in prison soon enough. Raping them with his asshole. In self defence.
>>734267>Rest assured though, the Kenosha Shooter will be raping people in prison soon enough. Raping them with his asshole. In self defence.He's not in prison anymore. The Americans released him because he's white.https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-posts-bail-kenosha-shootings-20201120-oa4air35bbdsvpkaixerhyidjm-story.html
>>734272Another reason bail is worthless.
Cope, cope, cope.>>734240Way to miss the point you fucking retard, what your describing when you mention lynching, is punishment of a person, Rittenhouse wasn't there to "punish" anyone, he was there to deter and prevent the commision of crimes and engage in self defence if nessesary.>>734255This is bait, needless to say everything in your post is objectively wrong.>>734258>B-BUT TH-THAT IS THE JOB OF THE POLICE.The job of the police, under a common law anglophone system of government, as described in the Peelian Principles is to deadicate their full time to a duty that is incumbent upon all good citizens, which is the upholding of the law, they are the primary enforcers, not the exclusive enforcers. What I'm describing is not the punishing of criminals, that is the job of the courts.This system is particularly important when the police are being delibrately stood down for political reasons.>Inb4 some idiotic response that deliberately misses the point I'm making in which you say something to the effect of "hurr hurrrr does that mean I can pull other drivers over if I see dem speeding durrr".
>>734272Nah, they released him because he is a hero figure for retards, and some evil republicunt donors got him out. They will make lots of money out of wheeling him out for interviews and right wing talk shows and merchandise and shit.george zimmerman autographs bags of skittles for subhumans at signing tables etc.
>>734276>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeJust like millions of brainwashed ragheads you have been reduced to defending a literal, by definition, terrorist.You are a terrorist enabler anon.
...continued>>734259>>734276>There are concepts such as due process and justice, and the Kenosha shooting pisses on them.Yet another person deliberately missing the point, you are confusing the role of the police and the role of the courts.A vigilante is a person who attempts to take on the role of a court, and punish actual or percived criminals. What Kyle did was more aliken to the role of the police, which as I said in the other post, are the primary enforcers of the law, not the exclusive enforcers of it. Does that mean a private citizen has the same law enforcement powers of a police officer? Obviously not. However all good citizens, be they on duty police, off duty police or private citizen can, do and should have the power and authority to deter and thwart criminal acts when they see them occuring and to engage in self defence if nessesary if the perpetrators of those acts take issue with the fact that someone is trying to stop them from doing what they are doing.
>>734278>not even attempting to refute anything I said.I'll take that as an admission of defeat.
>>734281>I have lost this debate.You lost it long ago, now you just know it.
>>734277That’s pretty basedKilled some leftistsSet for lifeYou must be seething
>>734287>Set for life doing a life sentenceWhy are altards like this?I don't do too much seething personally because I live with a woman who sucks my dick regularly and likes to fuck. How about (you) anon?But then again, I don't post far right rhetoric on tanzanian foreskin restoration boards. I wonder if those two aspects of my life are connected somehow?
>>734252>>734252>Didn't know we had so many Doctors of Law around hereI suppose everyone must seem like an expert to a tribalistic 60IQ retard such as yourself.
Thank you Kyle for taking out the trash. Well done, sir!!!! You have clearly demonstrated why the radical leftists in power and on the streets want REAL Americans to be disarmed. They are concerned for THEIR safety, NOT YOURS. They are extremely angry at you for clarifying their ultimate goals....and let me know if you need ammo to replace what you used to kill off those filthy lowlife dirtbag attackersBy the way, your right to defend yourself cannot be taken away from you....and you WILL be acquitted.
>>734290I actually have regular threesomes with my gf and her female friend.Seethe more leftfag, Kyle is getting out and rolling in cash.
>>734277I agree, he's a hero figure for the whites. They cheer when a Nazi punk takes an assault rifle to a civil rights protest and massacres the protesters. You can read their opinions on white culture websites like 4chan.
>>734296><citation needed>Ask your mum.
>>734290LMAOthat’s right seethe kike
>>734297You idiot. The trash that had attacked him were WHITE felons A pair of your WHITE felon friends are dead. They got exactly what they deserved for being so stupid as to chase after an armed FREE citizen...get over it
>>734309This. Leftists on this board are next. Show up to the protests cowards try something
Be a day to celebrate when he is found not guilty. American Patriot
>>734310Leftists are loud-talking gutless cowards who get somewhat brave when they are in large groups.PROOF.. a single 17 yr old made many of those commie cockroaches scatter when they realized he wasn't going to die for their cause
>>734307>>734309>>734310>>734311>>734314Cringe. I remember being 12.
>>734314this was me>>734310I was pretending to post like one of you. Made me feel like shit. How do you live your entire life like some mad 40 year boomer from the midwest with the hat sunglasses and the beard lol fuck your feelings we are getting him reelected then lose to a child fucker>>734316and you I hate you faggots so much with your leftist gay moral outrage was r/politics to busy for your savant opinions or what?>>734314>>734316You two need to get in a room and fuck each other like the useful puppets you aregod fucking damn it all the existences and I was born an american fucking kill me God fucking damn this gay broke rich somaliafuck the democratsfuck the republicansfuck the trumpersfuck the antifasfuck you all no seriously fuck you all
>>734316Irony >>> the filthy pedo felon friend of yours that Rittenhouse rightfully put to sleep loved 12 year olds
>>734318Take your meds, Chris.
>>734323And you take your meds to, José. They will help you calm down.
>>734325PPR (piss poor response)no drugs needed by me...not even the 'recreational' shit you use
>>733098he would have sued the shit out of the city. cops shoot to kill and are like asking a high school meathead to not fuck up. tazers are borderline worthless. you have a better chance of downing someone by pegging them in the head with a rock.
>>733110(you) literally don't know how tazers work.get out
>>734326Lips the terrorist here is definitely off his meds.
>>734278>by definitionHere's the US definition of terrorism>premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agentsIt wasn't premeditated since he only fired in response to others, unless you think this was all a deviously concocted scheme.The violence, being a direct response to immediate danger, was not politically motivated, and you'd have to stretch to call standing around, putting out fires, and offering first aid politically motivated.There is likely an official definition of "noncombatant" that covers anyone not enlisted, but if it only means "not combative" then even this doesn't fit Kyle's actions.
There are leftists like Steven Bonnell who say it was self defense. There are minority members like Collins Idehen who say it was self defense. Its not just right-wing white supremacists who think Kyle is innocent. The people who say it wasn't self defense show time and time again that they don't know the facts of what occurred, frequently misrepresenting them to exaggerate or outright lie about what happened. They show that they put being a leftist ahead of anything else. To them if a leftist attacks someone, that person should lie down and die, they don't get to defend themselves. That's not a principled position, it's chauvinism, plain and simple.
>>734326>no drugs needed by meYou are a boy who spends his free time screeching batshit mad accusations at random strangers on the internet. Be honest with yourself: You are sick. Your mind is sick. Take your medicine. It will help you calm down.
>>734334I already quoted the actual relevant definition retard:> The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"Kyle terrorhouse is a terrorist, by definition.Cope.
>>734342>don't know the facts of what occurredLike that he killed a couple guys with a weapon he was not supposed to have? Yeah, that'll look awesome in court, he's totally gonna walk away from it with a slap on his wrist.
>>734357>the unlawful use of force and violenceWhat laws did he break?>>734357>to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectivesIf not setting cars and buildings on fire is a political or social objective then maybe, but good luck arguing that with any sane person.
>>734355(chuckling at the idiot who has no response other than to call people 'sick')The trash was taken out...and Kyle did it to protect himself...enjoy your meltdown, sniveling snowflake
>>734357Truth is not on your side...stupid commie. Read up, basement bitch.https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-08-26-kyle-rittenhouse-is-an-american-hero-self-defense-blm-thugs.html#
>>734357>the unlawful use of forceI'm glad we're fully agreed that, by your definition, Rittenhouse is not a terrorist.
This assessment of 'BLM' is spot on. ""BLM is not organic. BLM and antifa do have a very organized structure, they are all front groups of the Revolutionary Communist Party out of Chicago aka Revcom or RCP""Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully saved his own life when a mob of commie insurgents tried to kill him.Love it!!!!!
Friendly reminder...The globalists in power who have helped to organize and fund the 'BLM' and 'Antifa' violent protest movement fear nothing more than armed and aware citizens. They (and their violent street mobs) want a free rein. One major roadblock...2nd Amendment. Use it (as Kyle did), or lose it.
Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself, there's nothing more to it you lefties. stop balding that two crazy young gs got clapped by a person who exercises his 2a
>>732941Destroying the factual self defense narrative to perpetuate your propagandists narrative maybe.
>>733020that didn't even happen.
>>733603>niggers have a culture of drugs and degenerate behavior because of white people.even Africans hate American niggers and they live in subtle 90iq land.
>>734403>>734402>>734398The cope runs strong today.
>>733603>Blacks are so stupid and devoid of self determination that their lives are completely controlled by da white man.I love how the "woke" point of view looks down on blacks harder than racists do.
>>733020You mean a rapist who had just raped and intimidated his ex along with a violent record? Reaching for a weapon and attempting to flee and endangering the children in the car?There was no "fight" unless you're referring to the women he was actively terrorizing.
>>734465>muh invented story0% this
>>732962lmao that would do it but that would just make people more sus. Also the whole world would have to agree, we would have to become passive.
>>734454I love how CHUDs and far-right dipshits attempt to justify their racist degeneracy by trying to peddle this laughably retarded narrative that admitting racism exists is the REAL racism. I'm also struggling to decide whether you're actually so fucking stupid you don't understand what socioeconomic hierarchies and class structures are or if you're just pretending like you don't so you can make this dumb point.
>>734486ooga booga muh poor little negroes nothing is ever their fault they can never be responsible for their actions.
>>734490I'm a little comforted by your complete inability to form an argument. I worry that people like you are a product of poor education but it makes me feel better to know that its actually because you're fucking brain damaged.
>>734493There is no merit to forming argument against people whose sole politic is dishonesty. Anything brought forward is instantly dismissed with boring vague platitudes like muh socio-economic structure and muh classes. Every the word racist is a kike invention to stiffle blatant truths.
>>734496>Anything brought forward is instantly dismissed with boring vague platitudes like muh socio-economic structure and muh classesAs opposed to the well thought out argument "niggers is dum subhuman" like the right spouts?
>>734496>There is no merit to forming argument against people whose sole politic is dishonesty.Just as there is no merit to forming arguments against people who can't even articulate why their opponents are being dishonest. This "you're not worth debating so I'm not going to bother forming an argument" routine is as old as time, dipshit. You have no argument. You're dumb. All you have is vitriol and snark. If you had even a single brain cell in your head capable of developing a cohesive argument to support your positions you wouldn't be a knuckle dragging Nazi to begin with. Participating in good faith debate is an insurmountable task to someone who is retarded and insecure enough to be brainwashed into becoming a Nazi. >Anything brought forward is instantly dismissed with boring vague platitudes like muh socio-economic structure and muh classesYou know how I know you're an absolute moron of the highest order? You just tried to insult me by saying I would use the academic study of socioeconomics and class based statistical analysis to dismiss your dumb fuck points. Yes. That is how forming reasonable thoughts work. The fact that you thought accusing me of using logical thought processes to inform my opinions was some kind of slam dunk against me really just betrays how incredibly brain damaged you are.
>>734500Don't botherThese dickheads are too deep into their own prejudices to even consider that maybe their experience is not everyone's experience.Doesn't help that they think reality is a Jewish conspiracy. Trying to convince them of anything that contradicts their world view-- without them backing down to their ingrained preconceptions-- isn't the easiest thing to do
>>734099>when they fucking crossed state lines to go into an active protest/riot that was not in their fucking neighborhoodKyle lived like 20 minutes away and literally worked in Kenosha.>Let the cops and local government deal with the shitheads if worse came to worse they would have gotten national guard involvedyet none of that happened because everybody was too woke to prevent mass riots. >>732934>it's his fault for being attacked! He shouldn't have been out at night!that's what's known as victim blaming
>>734508Terrorist enablers like you will always find ways to justify your preferred terrorists. K. Terrorhouse is and was a terrorist, by definition.Cope.
What a cohencidence, 3 of the guys he shot were Jews and had a criminal record.
>>734552Genuinely, do jews ever leave your brain space? Have they used their spooky Jew mind-control powers on you to always be thinking about them?
>>734556>Genuinely, do jews ever leave your brain space?It's hard to stop thinking of Jews when they themselves are on every media outlet. Schools from k-12 push the alleged hololol to every student.So, not Jews are literally living inside my head but it is not my fault.
>>734557Damn, so that's what schizophrenia is like.I hope you manage to win the mental war. Praying you win
>>734561NOOO! you are not supposed to mention Jews!It doesn't really matter if they get caught raping childred, inciting riots, and destroying our society by yoking us with usury!They guys who mentions them on /news/ is the real issue here!
>>734515>killing terrorists in self-defense is terrorism
>>734507>These dickheads are too deep into their own prejudices to even consider that maybe their experience is not everyone's experience.(Literally) everybody's guilty of this. One of the few traits you can effectively say belongs to all sides.
>>733509>Imagine what a dipshit you have to be to compare showing up armed to a protest with the intent on harassing people with a loaded weapon and being the victim of a sexual assault.Those are comparable, though.
>>734575True. Still doesn't stop it from applying to them, with the conclusions they're coming to
>>734473It's on video, it's in the witness testimony. You're in denial
>>734223My gf and most of her friends bought the media narrative until they saw the video
>>733802because they are fat and lazy mutt americans and work too much overtime did i mention fat ?
Kyle Rittenhouse, like George Zimmerman, and Bernhard Goetz, has been demonized by the Democrat Party run 'news' media for daring to kill off some violent scumbags (typical Democrat Party supporters) who had tried to kill him. Fuck the 'news' media and fuck their gullible brainless sheep.I thank Kyle, George, and Bernhard for taking out the trash.They truly are great American heroes
>>734608...which is why the internet MUST be regulated and censored...so says the intolerant left.
>>734629This coming from the faggots that were salty about Assange and WikiLeaks.... until 2016 when they dished on Clinton?
>>734607I have watched the video anon, so it’s not on video.The kid is arrested and facing life in prison if convicted.You are truly in denial.
>>734648Why would you lie?https://www.wisn.com/article/man-charged-with-firing-protest-warning-shot-in-kenosha/34374659https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1298484404918972417
>>734648>>734654And https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view>McGinnis described the point where the defendant had reached the car. McGinnis described that the defendant had the gun in a low ready position. Meaning that he had the gun raised but pointed downward. The butt of the gun would have been at an angle downwards from the shoulder. McGinnis stated that the defendant brought the gun up. McGinnis stated that he stepped back and he thinks the defendant fired 3 rounds in rapid succession. McGinnis said when the first round went off, he thought it hit the pavement. McGinnis felt something on his leg and his first thought was wondering whether he had gotten shot. McGinnis was behind and slightly to the right of Rosenbaum, in the line of fire, when the defendant shot.>McGinnis stated that the first round went into the ground and when the second shot went off, the defendant actually had the gun aimed at Rosenbaum. McGinnis stated he did not hear the two exchange any words. McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun. Detective Cepress indicates that he asked McGinnis if Rosenbaum had his hands on the gun when the defendant shot. McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun. McGinnis stated that the defendant pulled it away and then raised it. McGinnis stated that right as they came together, the defendant fired. McGinnis said that when Rosenbaum was shot, he had leaned in (towards the defendant).
>>734410So is Antifa in the room with us right now Karen?
>>734556Well of course, he has to make some spare time to think and post about black cocks.It should be noted that black cocks are also an evil jewish conspiracy to exterminate the 'white' race through mixed race childbirth and also explain TFW incel no GF.So I guess it's a bit of a roundabout where you start with obsessing over jews, then get distracted by BBC, and wind up right back with muh jews again. JEWS.
>>734556Don't tell him about the our true rulers, that damned shadowy Hibernian cabal. He'll never get the leprechauns out of his head.
>>733622>where he said he was an EMT. Protip: calling yourself a medic doesn't equal the same thing.It is the same thing. Show me one example of it not being the same thing.Protip: Your protip is ass.
>>734673>Show me one example of it not being the same thing.I'm a medic! I watched this youtube video!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgJhE7IwNwwWell that was easy...
>>734656>greentext that does not support muh pointAnd? Sounds like you just btfo yourself.
Someone explain how Kyle is racist when it was one of the men he shot calling him 'nigger'?
>>734692The video shows that a rioter shot first into the air. The testimony shows that Rosenbaum tried to grab the gun. Right here:> McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun. Detective Cepress indicates that he asked McGinnis if Rosenbaum had his hands on the gun when the defendant shot. McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun.So this >>733926 is not "muh invented story", its what happened. You're denying the evidence, because you can't admit the whole "Kyle shot first unprovoked" narrative never fit the evidence and was pure fiction.
>>733509Imagine being as retarded as you are and still blowing air through your cheeks.Its quite comparable actually but with your inferior bait/10 youre too stupid to realize your bait is bait and you actually believe the words youre typing
>>733544Damn you just destroyed the rioters. Good job retard.
>>733603Yeah. Liberals made this mess and love thier slaves being on welfare.
>>734493You didnt have an argument. You actually think blacks are so stupid they need you to save them when its your compassion thats making it harder for them to be people.
>>734496>like muh socio-economic structure and muh classes.aww the poor little bitch wants to pretend that the rich working with the poor never happened and was never critical to the founding of this nation because "muh classes and socio-economic structure" right?
>>734496no probs but you sound dumb as dogshit m8.
>>734713You are really struggling. None of what you have quoted or wrote changes anything in favor of your narrative. All we have here is a terrorist gunning down Americans.This terrorist shares the same skin tone as you - he is still, by definition, a terrorist.Cope.
>>734825>All we have here is a hero gunning down a pedophile ad a wifebeaterFTFY, pedo defender
>>734825>You are really struggling. None of what you have quoted or wrote changes anything in favor of your narrative.Ironic
>>734825you could replaced by a bot that doesn't even use the post it's replying to as input and nobody could tell the difference
>>734825>killing terrorists in self-defense is the actual terrorismyikes!
>>734826>>734834>>734881>>734943^Triggered, very triggered, samefags. K. Terrorhouse is by definition a terrorist.Cope,
>>732934Nibodyvwoukd have died if there weren't riots you stupid fuck
>>734968Nobody would have, phone posting horribly
>>734968And there wouldn’t need to be protests if there was no systemic racism. The same forces that drew a slightly retarded 17 year old into larping as seal team six are seen in how laws, crime, and punishment is structured in the USA.
>>734968Do you think protests occur for zero reasons? Thousands of people gathered nationwide for no reason?
>>734972The protest in Kenosha occurred because Jacob Blake, a rapist, showed up at the house of someone he had raped, with a knife, and was subsequently shot by police.He should have been shot 100% and the people protesting about it were retards.
>>734973>>734972>>734970>Jacob Blakewas he also the one who tried to grab something from his car and repeatedly ignored requests to stop?
>>734973You have never read any history have you?
>>734970>>734972Protests don't require riots. Rosenbaum wasn't a BLM protestor, he was a rioter setting fires. Why does he get to be at the protest when he intends to harm others, but Kyle's presence is an affront? If the protests are peaceful, why do supporters of the protests defend the actions of the rioters that aren't peaceful?
>>734977Protests frequently lead to riots as we saw in Charlottesville with the rioting white supremacy loons and the poor boys violence after the “afewthousandMAGAmarch”.
>>734979Are you trying to say that nobody should show up to protests if they don't hold the same beliefs as the protestors, because rioters will target them? No right-wingers at BLM protests and no leftists at MAGA protests? Are we just giving up on having public discourse?
>>734976Maybe the ~true underlying causes~ of the rioting were due to the translatlantic slave trade, or the Stamp Act, or the Sack of Rome, but the immediate trigger for the protests in Kenosha was the shooting of Jacob Blake.
>>734983There's showing up and being an escalating force on purpose. Being openly armed is definitely a sign of aggression.
>>734986Had Kyle not been armed, but still showed up, do you think he would have been left alone? Because there have been unarmed people at the protests who still got attacked. You can't have a dilemma where you can either show up unarmed and get attacked, or show up armed to defend yourself, and that counts as aggression to provoke attacks. Being armed is not a sign of aggression if a person is armed to defend themselves from harm.
>>734989>do you think he would have been left alone?Far more likely. There's no such thing as certainty for human behavior, but you invite trouble if you escalate.Being armed in public is definitely a sign of aggression. Only exception would be in range or hunting party where the default activity is understood to be shooting in a controlled environment. When you brandish a weapon, you declare intent to use it.
>>734992An armed society is a polite society. You bring a gun hoping the knowledge of its presence will keep everyone civil. You'd have to have something seriously wrong with you to attack the guy with a gun, but unfortunately that's exactly the kind of person who stuck around after dark to light shit on fire for shits and giggles.
>>734992>Being armed in public is definitely a sign of aggression.Not in America it isn't. People carry guns in public, it isn't legally considered brandishing nor is it considered a sign of aggression. Just having a gun in public isn't considered a threat.>When you "brandish" a weapon, you declare intent to use it.Intent to use it in self-defense, which isn't a sign of aggression.You're paranoia about people carrying guns does not make the carrying of guns a sign of aggression. Taking precautions to protect oneself while being at a protest isn't aggressive. You even admit that he had the need to defend himself by admitting that there was a chance he would be attacked even if he were unarmed. There is no obligation to disarm oneself when there is still a need to defend oneself. It is not aggressive, the escalation of aggression falls entirely upon the attacker, Rosenbaum.
>>734998>An armed society is a polite society. You bring a gun hoping the knowledge of its presence will keep everyone civil.That's not polite, that's fucking threatening. If people are only nice to you because they are afraid of what you might do, that's just straight up oppression. It's fucking "It's a Good Life" from Twilight Zone. Everyone smiling because any disapproval will get you blammed. A polite society is one where you can get away with being different without retaliation.The fuck is wrong with you?
>>735001>Not in America it isn't. People carry guns in public, it isn't legally considered brandishing nor is it considered a sign of aggression. Just having a gun in public isn't considered a threat.But it is and that's why shit like this make the headlines. It just means that more people are openly aggressive.
>>735002>that's just straight up oppressionHe wasn't there telling everyone to declare black lives don't matter at gunpoint. He was there trying to keep a presence around businesses that had been damaged by riots and were at risk of being damaged further. You can see protesters and armed groups having conversations in plenty of videos from the night with no problem sharing their opinions. Rosenbaum is on camera getting in a guy's face shouting "shoot me nigga" earlier in the day and nothing happens.
>>735003Are you really going to ignore half my post and just double down on something that is factually untrue? Carrying a rifle in public is not brandishing it, it is not considered a threat. Maybe you feel threatened, but a threat is not just anything that anyone finds threatening, or else any action at all could be called aggression. There must be some indication that harm will be inflicted. There are legitimate reasons to carry a rifle besides threatening people, like for self-defense, which supersedes any indication of aggression that might come from mere possession of the rifle. It cannot be called a threat nor open aggression, because self-defense is neither of those.
>>735009And it happened. Because a kid who shouldn't have been armed in the first place was placed in a situation to escalate where he didn't belong.
>>735010>Carrying a rifle in public is not brandishing it, it is not considered a threat. Maybe you feel threatened, but a threat is not just anything that anyone finds threatening, or else any action at all could be called aggression. There must be some indication that harm will be inflicted.Yes, it's called brandishing a rifle. And lo and behold shots got fired with lethal consequences.
>>735012It happened because Rosenbaum attacked him. Rosenbaum always had the option to not do that. It was always on the table. Rosenbaum faced no consequences whatsoever for choosing the default option of peace. But he couldn't help himself. He was the instigator, aggressor, and pursuer throughout the interaction.>>735013>brandish:>wave or flourish (something, especially a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.Simply holding a rifle is not brandishing it by the common definition. Wisconsin law does not define brandish as a legal term, but other states that do, include that the gun must be shown in a threatening manner. The fact that a clause about a threatening manner is included means that there must be a non-threatening manner to distinguish it from. Thus people can carry guns in a non-threatening manner, and not be brandishing them. Which is why the term "open carry" exists. Your distrust of guns does not make the possession of guns an act of aggression.
>>735012FREE Americans can do that...all of u sniveling faggot commie bitches who have no issues with paid rioters attacking people and destroying property need to understand that Kyle is one of many who don't put up with the bullshit and will put the 2nd Amendment to perfect use.Your fellow lowlife scumbags are dead because they attacked a well armed FREE citizen...Yes, they're dead...they deserved the outcome...get over it
I love heartwarming stories of armed and heroic citizens (like Rittenhouse) taking out the smelly trash that had tried to attack them....and watching heartwaming videos of stupid useless felons getting put to sleep...nighty night, bitches....and i love watching video of that stupid clown 'antifa' bitch getting his arm vaporized by some 5.56. Shot placement was a little off to the left, but still....I LOVE IT.2nd Amendment...use it, or lose
Way too many idiots refuse to believe that Kyle's attackers were armed.Well, one of them was armed, now he's partially armed.BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAview, and enjoyhttps://www.conservapedia.com/images/e/ee/People%27s_Revolutionary_Movement.png
>>735013>Yes, it's called brandishing a rifle.In open-carry states, like Wisconsin, carrying a rifle is by definition not brandishing.
>>735030How is protest communist?
>>734984>I don’t like my racist past so I will ignore it today.Cope, literally, it will serve you well over time.
>>735017>It happened becauseOH no! A plastic bag was thrown!!! Shoot everyone!!!>retard defense of shooter Kid should have never been there and may end up in prison.
>>735052>OH no! A plastic bag was thrown!!!He also heard the sound of gunfire and turned to find a felon twice his size lunging at him.>Kid should have never been there and may end up in prison.Kid would have to have the world's most incompetent defense attorneys in order to lose what is a fairly cut-and-dried self-defense case.Which, to be fair, he could, since he has retained some fairly incompetent lawyers.
>>735055Is this your new cope mechanism now that long elaborate schitzoid posts about exactly how hard trump is winning the election have gone out of fashion?Maybe you can just will the Kenosha Shooter out of a long prison sentence by shitposting?Did you ever consider actually having sex anon? With another human being?TLDR Have Sex I.N.C.E.L
>>735075I have been arguing that Rittenhouse has a solid self-defense case consistently since news of the shooting was first posted on /news/ three months ago.>Maybe you can just will the Kenosha Shooter out of a long prison sentence by shitposting?I need do literally nothing to watch the Kenosha shooter avoid prison for murder, although he may serve a brief sentence for underaged firearm possession.
>>735055Or the case simply isn't a self defense case.
>>735083If Rittenhouse believed that he was about to be subject to "great bodily harm", then Wisconsin law allows him to use lethal force to defend himself. Twelve jurors must agree, without any reasonable doubt, that Rittenhouse did not fear any such harm when he opened fire.
>>735092>If Rittenhouse believed that he was about to be subject to "great bodily harm", then Wisconsin law allows him to use lethal force to defend himself. Twelve jurors must agree, without any reasonable doubt, that Rittenhouse did not fear any such harm when he opened fire.We all know those idiots would have likely killed the idiot kid if he ended up being to scared to defend himself.
>>735052>A plastic bag was thrown!!!We've been over this already in this thread.>>734654>>734656
>>735108Why would they kill him? For what purpose?
>>735092And self defense goes out the window when you willingly engage
>>735166Explain how Rittenhouse "willingly engaged" Rosenbaum prior to the shooting, which is where the nexus of the self-defense claim is.
>>735180He approached while brandishing his gun. He had no reason to be there what so ever
>>735166>trying to retreat from an aggressive violent convict who had been trying to start fights all day is "willingly engaging"are you the same one who says that defending yourself against terrorists makes you a terrorist?
>>735182He didn't approach him anon, he was chased.
>>735182>He approachedso you're still going with the fake news strategy?
He may have been emancipated from his guardians.
>>735182>brandishingI saw the clips, he wasn't brandishing his gun. Where was he waving it about and threatening with it?
Joseph Rosenbaum was convicted of sex with a minor and killed by a minor. Pottery.
>>735185Chasing terrorists is what real Americans do. You will probably learn this at some point in your life.
>>735182For all the nogunz who are confusing brandishing with open carrying: the McCloskeys were brandishing firearms, Rittenhouse was open carrying.
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>>735079That is (you) attempting to impose your retarded situational and political bias on a real world situation again.If you aggressively attend a high risk/danger situation or scenario brandishing a deadly weapon and are not a 'responder' or law enforcement agent, you are deliberately provoking a violent response and making people fear for their lives and they are fully expected to act accordingly, which they did.And instead of attempting to kill the Kenosha Shooter, they attempted to disarm him instead.By your idiotic logic, any entitled amerishart boomer or boom larper like rittentard can stroll across a live fire battlefield or into a crack den or meth lab, or anywhere they choose carrying a machine gun and expect no violence because MUH OPEN CARRY!11!!!!1 provides a magical shield of diminished responsibility that makes any conflict that occurs an act of self defence.If a stranger walks up to you and pretends to punch you in the face but keeps pulling the punches an inch from your face so no contact occurs, that is still provocation and assault.I am trying to dumb it down for you so you can understand, although no doubt you are another shill bad actor trying to larp your right wing fantasies into reality again.The Kenosha Shooter will be going to prison for a long time, regardless of your edgeposting on a Tanzanian anal hair basket weaving forum.
>>735432Is this bait or are you actually retarded? You keep ignoring what everyone has said to repeat your own bullshit. Rittenhouse was not threatening or aggressive in any way, and you haven't provided any evidence that he was other than "he had a gun" which the state of Wisconsin and most Americans agree is not a sign of aggression on its own.
>>735442>most americans agreeMost first world citizens agree that americans are generally retarted and laughably backwards
>>735432>If a stranger walks up to you and pretends to punch you in the face but keeps pulling the punches an inch from your face so no contact occurs, that is still provocation and assault.This is a good point, if you are walking around with arms and hands then you are an aggressor and people have every reason to attack you because you might punch them
>>735445Which has nothing to do with whether something is considered a sign of aggression in Kenosha. Wisconsin has already decided that open carry isn't a sign of aggression, regardless of what someone in Europe thinks.
>>735445German here, we agree, and ask ourself : does America want to repeat history?
>>735442Please present us the written agreement of 170 million or more American citizens. I bet you can't. Because you're a liar, a swindler, a Donald. Everything you say, everything you think, everything you believe is a lie, built on baseless assumptions and angry belly feelings.
>>735482Which part of history are they repeating? Clown age?
>>735482>>735513Well the worst period in German history is presumably Nazis and the Holocaust. And that was caused by mass censorship, violent mobs attacking political opponents, open and public demonization of people based on race, and of course the fact that citizens were disarmed.The modern American left checks all of those boxes and more.
>>735517>that thing that police let happen is BAD, police shouldnt be allowing protestors to camp out!if you hated it so much, why arent you protesting the police departments that let it happen on their watch and chose to do nothing about it?
>>735442>and most Americans agree...kind of an empty statement these days
>>735432>If you aggressively attend a high risk/danger situation or scenario brandishing a deadly weaponHow many millions of times must it be explained to you that in open carry states, carrying a weapon is neither brandishing nor provocation?>any entitled amerishart boomer or boom larper like rittentard can stroll across a live fire battlefield or into a crack den or meth lab, or anywhere they choose carrying a machine gun and expect no violenceIf they are legally entitled to be there, then they retain the same rights to self-defense as anyone else. If they are trespassing in someone else's a meth lab, they are not.>If a stranger walks up to you and pretends to punch you in the faceThe act of moving to punch someone in the face creates the risk of great bodily harm and entitles the recipient to use lethal force to defend himself.>I am trying to dumb it down for you so you can understandYou have dumbed it down so far you've managed to convince yourself of something completely retarded.
>>735539what is cringe? Are you saying that Nazis/Holocaust were not the worst period in German history? Then what was anon?
>>735527>protest the police because they let protestors protest the policeyou're a genius
>>735550>carry guns across statelines>entitled to be there
>>735616>thing that didn't happenBut even then, yes a person is simultaneously allowed to assemble at a protest while possessing the means to defend themselves from rioters. Those rioters however are not entitled to be there if they intend to riot and ruin everyone else's peaceful protest.
>>735185Because he approached brandishing a weapon.
>>735243When he shot openly caring the gun toward people.
>>735550>carrying a weapon is neither brandishing nor provocation?It's definitely provocation. Provocation allowed by law is still provocatuon
>>735631>It's definitely provocationIs irrational fear of guns a cultural thing? I live in Wisconsin and I have never felt provoked by someone simply carrying a gun. Maybe if I had meant to light some shit on fire and found someone with a gun there I'd be a little annoyed, but to most people the guy with a gun is the good guy in that scenario.
>Kid acquires gun illegally>"Surely making guns illegal will fix this">Only the police should have guns>This happened because da police be raycis>Abolish the policelmao retarded statists gonna statist
>>735686Only a stupid, gullible, and highly brainwashed person would fear an inanimate object such as a firearm. I don;t mind at all that those idiots remain unarmed. Big brother, and criminals, want everyone else to be such stupid sheep.
>>735686You have just become dulled. You have no reason to carry a gun unless you are planning use it. Any sensible person would be weary of anyone carrying an unnecessary weapon around.
>>735747Strange how this "having a gun = provocation" idea has no legal or historical precedent and hundreds of other people aside from Rosenbaum were not provoked to violence against the gun holders despite being around them for just as long as Rosenbaum. Even Rosenbaum himself was around other people with guns earlier and yet didn't attack anyone despite this alleged provocation. It was only after Kyle extinguished a fire set by Rosenbaum that he was "provoked" into finding, confronting, chasing, and lunging at Kyle. Rosenbaum, who has a history of violence and poor judgement, yet you think he needed provocation to attack Kyle.Since it was the extinguishing of the fire that set off Rosenbaum, apparently that "unnecessary weapon" was quite necessary after all. Had Kyle put out that fire and not been armed, Rosenbaum would have inflicted grievous harm to him, as shown by his violent past, why else would he chase him down? No matter how much you wish that Rosenbaum had been able to beat Kyle senseless without consequence, are we to believe that putting out fires is some great transgression that deserves assault?
>>735760>apparently that "unnecessary weapon" was quite necessary after all.No it wasn't. Guns cannot extinguish fires.
>>735761>Had Kyle put out that fire and not been armed, Rosenbaum would have inflicted grievous harm to himIs reading hard for you? Or are you saying self-defense is unnecessary, and that we should let guys like Rosenbaum attack us all willy-nilly?
>>735762It's not self defense if you purposefully put yourself in harm's way. Kyle had no reason to be either armed or present.
>>735764His reason to be present was to be part of the protest, just as valid a reason as every other protestor there. Being at a peaceful protest is not putting oneself in harm's way. His reason to be armed was to protect himself from people like Rosenbaum, because as long as people like that exist, arming oneself is always reasonable. However, Rosenbaum had no legitimate reason to be there, since he was a rioter looking to burn and assault. Rosenbaum put himself in harm's way by attacking a peaceful protest attendee.
>>735765>Rosenbaum put himself in harm's way by attacking a peaceful protest attendee.And he died for it.It doesn't excuse Kyle. He's the one on trial.>Being at a peaceful protest is not putting oneself in harm's way. His reason to be armed was to protect himself from people like Rosenbaum, because as long as people like that exist, arming oneself is always reasonableSo he made the protest a target for violence by escalating according to your accounts. Instead of continuing the peace of the protest, he made it dangerous with a firearm. Also, guns do not protect. They are preemptive weapon to kill.
>>735772>It doesn't excuse Kyle.Yes, it does. Rosenbaum attacking him makes Kyle's response an act of self-defense.>So he made the protest a target for violence by escalating according to your accounts. Instead of continuing the peace of the protest, he made it dangerous with a firearm. Also, guns do not protect. They are preemptive weapon to kill.No, Rosenbaum escalated. Kyle was peaceful until Rosenbaum wasn't. There were already others (on all sides) at the protest with guns anyway, so Kyle's possession of a gun isn't an escalation in any way. Guns do protect, that's what happened, Kyle protected himself. It cannot be preemptive, since Rosenbaum attacked first, not Kyle, that's reactive, not preemptive.
>>735780And again, your narrative can't decide if Kyle was in a peaceful situation or dangerous one. If it was peaceful, he disrupted the peace with multiple gunfire. If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claim for putting himself in harm's way purposefully. Kyle had no reason be in the situation he was in. He had no reason to be armed, he had no reason to approach while being armed. He didn't defend himself, he shot someone. He didn't block an attack, he preemptively put down what he percieved as a threat. He escalated lethally. Counter attack is not defense, that's a counter offensive.
>>735786>If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claim for putting himself in harm's way purposefullyNo he doesn't, pre-existing danger doesn't void self-defense rights. It was a peaceful situation until Rosenbaum escalated, but there was always the potential for danger, thus warranting bringing the rifle.>he had no reason to approach while being armedYou're just bullshitting again. Rosenbaum picked the fight. kyle never approached him, he ran away form him.>He didn't block an attackHe reacted to Rosenbaum lunging at him and trying to grab his rifle. You clearly do not understand that self-defense is not just "blocking attacks", it is any reasonable action to prevent oneself from being harmed by assault. Shooting an attacker while they are attacking you is self-defense. It doesn't matter if it escalates, lethal force to prevent an attempt to inflict grievous bodily harm is still self-defense.>Counter attack is not defense, that's a counter offensive.He wasn't on the offensive, he ran away until he couldn't because Rosenbaum was close enough to grab the rifle. It was purely defensive and purely reactive. There was no counter attack, the shooting was to end the immediate attack being perpetrated by Rosenbaum.
>>735786>If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claim for putting himself in harm's way purposefully.wrong. You lose the self defense claim if you initiate the violence. If you're the reason the situation becomes dangerous then you lose the right to self-defense.But you can't just say "well since liberals are all a bunch of violent lunatics, you lose your right to self-defense any time you voluntarily go near a group of leftists". By your logic, there is no self-defense claim in any Democrat-run city because they're all dangerous
>>735786>If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claim for putting himself in harm's way purposefully.Is that how it works?>Lady it's your fault for walking down that neighborhood at night dressed like that. Don't you know how dangerous these minority streets are? Now walk it off.
>>735442>is only there to be a medic and help people you guise!>needs a machine gun because people always attack medics at protests and rallies
>>735760Strange how this "having a gun=TFW no GF" has no legal or historical precedent and hundreds of other incels aside from Rittenshart were not provoked to violence by girlfriend holders despite being around them for just as long as Adolf Rittler.Even Rittenhaus himself was around other people with girlfriends earlier and yet didn't attack any chads despite this alleged provocation. It was only after Von Kyler got mistaken for a 12 year old boy with a popgun by the pedo protester that he was "provoked" into finding, confronting, chasing and lunging seductively at the pedoguy. Rittengruber, who has a history of dying alone and poor judgement, yet you think he needed provocation to fling himself at the pedo.
>>735923>machine gunIt wasn't, but I guess another lie from leftists is no surprise.>people always attack medics at protests and ralliesHe was attacked, so yeah. It doesn't happen always, but how can you tell someone who was attacked that they didn't need to defend themselves from the attack that happened? He wasn't the only one attacked by rioters in Kenosha, and the unarmed people got beaten severely.
>>735760So what you are saying is that young murkan conservatives are pussies, and need to be armed with military weapons to solve confrontations with irrational or agitated unarmed people.Had Kyle put out that fire and not been armed, he could have duked it out with the guy he was trying to confront and then gone home later.If he is unable to survive or manage a violent confrontation he personally provoked with another person without resorting to murder, then he shouldn't be there at all.It's incredible how versatile kyle really is, he was only there to work as an unqualified far right field medic no one asked for, but also was able to perform amazing feats as a firefighter and mass shooter.
>>735931He was attacked because he was not a medic. Medics in the most dangerous parts of the world do not carry rifles or even sidearms because that makes them combatants, increases the odds of escalation, and makes them clear targets.If he had any intentions of actually acting as a field medic, he would not have been armed, those people would not be dead and he would not be about to get buttblasted daily in prison for the next few decades or so.People who are actually dedicated to helping people in combat or unrest situations go in unarmed because they care more about helping people than risk of harm to themselves. They also don't double as amateur firefighters.Guy goes to protest with rifle to 'help' people might pass muster with mealy mouthed shill fucks like (you), but will not help much in a court of law run by adults. And this will occur long after trump is in office and able to issue a crooked pardon.
>>735932>military weaponsHe didn't have a military weapon.>he could have duked it out with the guy he was trying to confront and then gone home laterRosenbaum was the instigator, Kyle never confronted him. No one owes it to rioters to be beaten unconscious, like they did to unarmed people in Kenosha.>If he is unable to survive or manage a violent confrontation he personally provoked with another person without resorting to murder, then he shouldn't be there at all.Whether he should be there or not, according to your criteria that you pulled out of your ass, he still had the right to defend himself against assault.>It's incredible how versatile kyle really is, he was only there to work as an unqualified far right field medic no one asked for, but also was able to perform amazing feats as a firefighter and mass shooter.Shooting in self defense isn't a mass shooting, you're resorting to equivocation. And if you think a person can't do more than one thing at a protest then you're hopelessly inept.>>735940>He was attacked because he was not a medic. Medics in the most dangerous parts of the world do not carry rifles or even sidearms because that makes them combatants, increases the odds of escalation, and makes them clear targets."Not being a medic" is not a valid reason to attack someone. You ignore that another medic, Gaige Grosskreutz, was also armed, which shows that medics can carry firearms and still be medics.>If he had any intentions of actually acting as a field medic, he would not have been armed, those people would not be dead and he would not be about to get buttblasted daily in prison for the next few decades or so.Pure speculation, i.e. bullshitting from you. You don't know his intentions, but we all know he was peaceful prior to being attacked. Even after the attack, he tried to retreat at every opportunity. That shows that he wasn't looking to fight.
>>733098>They could have tazed him or shot rubber bullets or somethingyeah maybe they should pepper spray is foot. We need to be kind to our most violent criminals because it makes the other violent criminals angry
>>735940>Medics in the most dangerous parts of the world do not carry rifles or even sidearms because that makes them combatantswhat a dumb fucking statement. medics carry weapons retard. Hell my dad is a paramedic in the states and still wears a vest because he deals with methed out junkies all day and doesnt want to get shot or stabbed.
>>735950Wow! Your dad's vest is a weapon? Does it have bullet tits like that bond chick? Explain to us mere plebs the magical workings of your dad's weaponized vest!
>>733098Him running to his car to reach inside wasn't necessary. Also nobody rioted because he got shot. A white person would have been shot in the same situation, and white people have been shot for less. The riots are just because leftists hate white people and want to use fake racism as an excuse to riot over how much they hate white people. Look at this thread, you have multiple anons claiming that Kyle Rittenhouse deserved to be murdered and that it was wrong for a white boy like him to use reasonable self-defense against terrorists. That's simply hatred of white people and conservatives that's motivating that.>>733970He wasn't trying to hurt people. He was forced to defend himself.
>>735950Here retard.Geneva Convention protection.In 1864, sixteen European states adopted the first-ever Geneva Convention to save lives and alleviate the suffering of wounded and sick persons in the battlefield, as well as to protect trained medical personnel as non-combatants, in the act of rendering aid.Chapter IV, Article 25 of the Geneva Convention states that: "Members of the armed forces specially trained for employment, should the need arise, as hospital orderlies, nurses or auxiliary stretcher-bearers, in the search for or the collection, transport or treatment of the wounded and sick shall likewise be respected and protected if they are carrying out these duties at the time when they come into contact with the enemy or fall into his hands." Article 29 reads: "Members of the personnel designated in Article 25 who have fallen into the hands of the enemy, shall be prisoners of war, but shall be employed on their medical duties insofar as the need arises."According to the Geneva Convention, knowingly firing at a medic wearing clear insignia is a war crime.Vice versa, the convention also states that no medic should carry a weapon, or be seen engaged in combat.
>>735971The Geneva Convention applies to trained soldiers engaged in war, where both sides are expected to uphold certain standards. Rioters are not covered by that, they will attack unarmed medics, so carrying a gun is reasonable. The Geneva Convention is not a universal standard, the authors and signatories knew it didn't, and shouldn't, apply to conflicts between private civilians. SWAT medics carry guns, EMTs carry guns, and even medics in the military have been carrying guns since WWII, all for the same reason, to defend themselves. That carry-for-defense principle is understood and accepted internationally so long as the medic does not engage in combat on the offense. You couldn't even Google "medics with guns". That's how uniformed you are.
>>735971Okay now what does the Geneva Convention say about a violent mob of domestic terrorists intentionally causing collateral damage and civilian casualties, and then chasing down somebody who was not a threat and was trying to avoid conflict?Pretty sure faking a surrender (which the third guy did before trying to pull his gun) is also explicitly against the Geneva Convention.
>>735981Which riot are you referring to specifically that he attended? I was only aware of the murders he committed at a protest in Kenosha. You're now saying he also murdered civilians at some secret riot no one has heard about except (you)?>Rioters are not covered by that, they will attack unarmed medicsCould you provide a verified list of medics who were attacked at riots? Could you also provide verified links to this incel's certification as a medic? Apparently a 3 day first aid course and a kmart med kit along with your murder weapon qualifies for altards.>Okay now what does the Geneva Convention say about a violent mob of domestic terrorists intentionally causing collateral damage and civilian casualties, and then chasing down somebody who was not a threat and was trying to avoid conflict?I don't think the geneva convention mentions republicans specifically, but probably it should. They are one of the greatest threats to world peace in the modern era.
>>735988Are you saying that it wasn't a riot? So Rosenbaum, who set fires, picked fights, and attacked people wasn't a rioter, he was protestor? So the protestors are the ones doing those attacks and the protests aren't peaceful? So Kyle was in the midst of an angry violent mob, since there is no difference between rioters and protestors like Rosenbaum?
>>735997Are you saying that the actions of one man constitute a riot? An honest to god one man riot? If one person turns up to a protest, all people there are somehow bound by some stupid set of laws you just made up that associate them with that person?That would make all conservatives who were there that day active shooters and domestic terrorists like big bad kyle, right?
>>735999So Rosenbaum wasn't a protestor and had no reason to be there except to provoke Kyle?
>>736001Not too sure about Rosenbaum's motives, why don't you pull a Ouija board out from the same place you get your facts (your ass) and ask him?
>>736004Motives? His actions speak for themselves. A peaceful protestor doesn't start fires, get in peoples' faces shouting "shoot me!" or chase after other peaceful protestors. Notice how he wasn't wearing a mask at first, it wasn't until he decided to start being violent, that's no Covid measure that's concealing his identity. I don't think we need a ouija board to know that the man that raped 5 boys aged 9 to 11, was charged for battery, and made several assaults on staff while in prison was not justified in chasing down someone who hadn't done anything except extinguish a fire.
>>736006That's a nice larp based entirely on your feelings there snowflake, but adults don't use the feefee defence in courts of law like the alt-right does.>a peaceful protester doesn't start fires<citation needed>Why do you hate freedom anon? And toasted marshmallows?Someone who presumably wasn't a maga retard decided to wear a mask when he was going to be in close contact with a stranger due to being in a conflict, still not something you can understand huh? Gotta be an ulterior motive whenever someone wears one of those evil medical masks!Whomever he raped battered or assaulted is totally irrelevant to the murder, his killer didn't know him or anything about him. Try harder kiddo, you can do it!
>>735967hey dipshit, you know that its legal to carry concealed guns in america, right?>>735971>muh geneva conventionmeanwhile, in reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ONl8Z1s-Ac
>>736020><citation needed>dumb nigger if someone tossed a firebomb in your house that's an act of violence.
>>736020It wasn't a medical mask, it was a t-shirt. And Rosenbaum had no issue getting up in people's faces, just inches away, while not masked. That's on video, he didn't give a shit about covid. His rapes and assaults do matter, because it speaks to why he was so violent and why he chased Rittenhouse. You cannot say that he chased Rittenhouse for a good reason, there isn't a good reason to chase a peaceful person. The only reason he has is indicated by his long history of being a violent asshole, that you desperately want to ignore. You aren't defending freedom, you're defending a rapist psycho's choice to chase down and assault a peaceful protestor, because you're scared of right-wingers with guns. You want every right-winger scared to bear arms while you commit assaults and terror. In your mind we should all lie down and let you kick us to death before Gaige Grosskreutz finishes us off with a bullet, just like what Michael Reinoehl did.
>>736029Everyone with half a brain is scared of right wingers with guns, even the FBI who has named right wingers with guns as the greatest domestic terror threat to america, because of fucking retards like rittenhouse and (you).A t-shirt is a recommended makeshift medical mask if none other can be sourced in any given situation. That's an actual fact. You know, facts, those elusive things you play around with so creatively. When or how or why it occurred to someone to wear a makeshift mask is irrelevant, and entirely speculative and based on butthurt feefees like much that you say.Any crimes committed by Rosenbaum prior to his attendance at the protest are irrelevant to his murder, because the Kenosha Shooter did not appear to know him personally, or anything about him. Sadly, your feelings don't change that either.I can't say that he chased rittenhouse for a good reason because I wasn't there you fucking idiot, and I am going to assume (you) weren't either.There is no need to ask the far-right to lie down and be kicked to death, trump already asked you to do that, and you agreed wholeheartedly with tears of joy streaming down your little faces. 250000+ dead and counting so far.
>>736036Rosenbaum attacked first, no defense of his insane behavior you can offer changes that, there is no excuse to chase down a fleeing person who has done nothing to anyone.People you don't like can still be at your protests, you aren't allowed to attack them.People can own guns. People can defend themselves with guns.No one has to let you lynch them. You don't have the right to lynch people in the streets just because you think you're the good guys.Self defense is a human right even for people you hate and want dead.The Left doesn't believe in self-defense. They want free reign to attack anyone for any reason. You've repeatedly shown this to be the case.
>>736041>be a terrorist>do terrorist thing>get chased by patriot>somehow justified for another terrorist actWew lad
>>736045you are either a troll or an actual retarded person. go play with trains
>>736041Well, obviously Rosenbaum was just trying to get a good fire going so they could have a makeshift cookout right there in the field, but some little incel bootlicker kept trying to put the fire out and threatening to shoot him if he 'tried it again'It can be hard to source an uber delivery in the middle of a protest, especially with Right wing domestic terrorists brandishing guns everywhere. Most of these guys seem to feel they can murder anyone they have sad feelings about, so it can get pretty edgeladen if you are actually there on the spot.People have a right to carry cooking equipment like burning bins and you aren't allowed to interfere with that equipment or try to starve them by continuously trying to put the fire out while waving a gun around.No one has to let you take their dinner away. Fires for cooking are a human right even for people you want dead.I am pretty sure this narrative I just put forward is true and honest and will stand up in court, because it's how I feel about it, which is more important than dumb shit like laws and facts.
>>735971>Vice versa, the convention also states that no medic should carry a weaponThe convention says nothing of the sort. You invented it.>>736036>Any crimes committed by Rosenbaum prior to his attendance at the protest are irrelevant to his murderIf you told me that a tenured MIT professor was chasing someone down the street, I would expect there to be some reason for it. It would be extremely unlikely for it to happen because they wanted to start shit.If you told me that an ex-convict who spent ten years in prison for raping children was chasing someone, it becomes significantly more likely that they did it because they wanted to start some shit.
>>736020>Try harder kiddo, you can do it!Was that what Tyrone said as you tried to take his horse dick?
>>732934Exactly, this argument about Rittenhouse "defending himself" is bogus, because by the same logic, the protesters had the right to defend themselves from a fucking person waving a gun around.
>>736182He didn't wave the gun around, and in a hypothetical situation where someone did wave a gun around, then lowered the gun and ran away, people are not allowed to chase and assault that person because they are no longer defending themselves from a threat of grievous bodily harm.
>>736048>oh no I am being called out again for supporting a literal terrorist
>>736190The Left doesn't believe in self-defense. They want free reign to attack anyone for any reason. You've repeatedly shown this to be the case.
>>736187He was on the front line, during a confrontation approaching protests, with a gun. What do you expect them to think. The police are also totally responsible for this, they should not have left that happen or encouraged him.
>>736191Anon, you cannot kill people for tossing plastic bags nor for conducting a citizens arrest of a murderer.
>>736192Like this is the thing about the alt-right, you're not even effective right wingers. Trump could just say "oh violence on both sides, lets overcome this together, we are one nation lets heal this", instead he's like "DOMINATION", "LIBERATE VIRGINIA!", "STAND BACK AND STAND BY", giving his supporters the idea they can do whatever the fuck they want, get themselves in trouble and inflaming the situation even further. He's a incompetent right winger, which I think in large part is why they've gotten rid of him, because even the "deep state" is like "holy fuck this guy is literally incompetent".
>>736192>He was on the front line, during a confrontation approaching protests, with a gun.Proof? He was fine around other protestors during the night as were other people with guns. At the time of the confrontation by Rosenbaum he was walking down a road with a reporter, he wasn't approaching a protest, he was already in it, and he wasn't on any front line.>>736194You can kill people if they are in the middle of assaulting you and you are about to face grievous bodily harm, such as someone confronting you and chasing you down and grabbing your rifle while shouting "fuck you", like what Rosenbaum did. And there is a big difference between a citizen's arrest and a mob assaulting someone. Wisconsin doesn't have a statute about citizen's arrests, but in common law they cover holding someone, not beating them with blunt objects while they are on the ground. Gaige Grosskreutz has admitted that he wanted to dump his mag in Kyle, that's not someone performing an arrest but rather wanting to perform an execution.
>>736105not the retard you're debating with but in NYC there were lawyers literally delivering molotov cocktails to rioters so at this point a tenured MIT professor "peacefully protesting" by chasing someone down the street wouldn't surprise me.https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/882075310/lawyers-charged-with-seven-felonies-in-molotov-cocktail-attack-out-on-bail#:~:text=Live%20Sessions-,Molotov%20Cocktail%20Suspects%20Urooj%20Rahman%20And%20Colinford%20Mattis%20Released%20On,they're%20being%20singled%20out.
>>736200Ever since the bikelock bandit was unmasked as a university teacher of ethics, there's no way to assume anyone acts in good faith.
>>732931>Sigh...you mean thank god the justice system works and lefties deserved everything they gotthe lefties tried to bash in the skull of a kid and then got mad the kid fought them off and won. Imagine being those losers.
>>732962>disarm the militarybaitguns keep a man good. We all need guns >>732934>noooo you can't come to our places, we can go to your places and riot and kill but you can't do the same!!
>>736197You cannot murder someone for tossing a plastic bag.You can say fuck you while conducting a citizens arrest of a murder.Your ideology and legal theory of the case falls apart with barely any effort. Do continue to cope though.
>>736213You seem to have the order of events wrong. Rosenbaum said "fuck you" while grabbing the rifle after chasing Rittenhouse, before Rittenhouse had fired any shots. To suggest that Rosenbaum was arresting a murderer is absurd, no one had been shot at that time. Rosenbaum was not attempting any legitimate arrest, and since you don't even know the timeline it is clear you are ignorantly defending him simply because you are the same side that he is.
>>733110Did you know that being a cop in the US is more deadly than being a soldier? Watch this video and tell me how you don't understand how quickly things can change. It's timestamped. https://youtu.be/RGA73zw2d6Q?t=829
>>736221Did you know being a pizza delivery driver is more dangerous than being a cop in the US? >According to statistics reported to the FBI, 89 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2019. Of these, 48 officers died as a result of felonious acts, and 41 officers died in accidents. Comprehensive data tables about these incidents and brief narratives describing the fatal attacks are included in Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2019, released today.So that's 48 felony murders out of all the cops who died while on duty, 41 deaths being due to accidents.Meanwhile, there were 1004 fatal shootings by police officers in that same year. That means it's more dangerous to be pulled over by a cop than it is to be a cop, or a soldier in Afghanistan.
>>736287Cops interact with more than one person a year, so what's the per capita death toll for each?
>>735858>>If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claim for putting himself in harm's way purposefully.>Is that how it works?Yes, that's why vigilantism is illegal. Your second example is matter of consent, not self defense. Don't be retarded
>>736287Don't let them off by only listing police shootings. Amerishart cops kill plenty of people, and plenty of unarmed people every year without using any weapons. Floyd is a perfect example.Stormsharts and magachuds are such 'cucks' that they seem to forget that lots of these are unarmed 'white' people too.TFW you wilfully forget that these protests are only happening because police keep murdering unarmed citizens and pardoning themselves for it. TFW you have no face because some cop shot it off while you were licking his boots and profusely thank him for his service.
>>735786>If it's dangerous, he loses his self defense claimTurning a city into a warzone does not, in fact, cause people in that city to magically lose their rights to self-defense for "putting themselves in harms way."
>>736444>warzone<citation needed>for "putting themselves in harm's way brandishing a rifle".Fixed that for you boomcore.
>>736451There is literally nobody, no jury, no prosecutor, no judge on earth who will even remotely buy the theory that being in a dangerous area with a gun voids self-defense claims.
>>736471My sides. Just reread that sentence a few times with even a whiff or faint trace of irony enabled and try and let it sink in a bit.Murkastanis are living in a dream world.
>>736492>no argument to make>responds instead with an attempt at derision (ie: a non-argument) >think this makes you look good in the eyes of the other anons in the thread
>>736496Extremely hard to express logical statements to people with absolutely no self awareness who go around trying to convince other people that they are making total sense.You are veering into self parody and are becoming hard to even reach.When your heroes invaded Czechoslovakia in 39 that was just self defence right anon? Same with Poland. All those troops wandering into other people's sovereign nations weren't being threatening right? They were just there in a public space, and were only responding to mean people who wanted to fight them JUST because they were carrying rifles and machine guns! Muh freeedooommmz.
>>736514>still thinks derision is an effective argument>now substituting "ur a nazi!" to compensate as well You're a parody of yourself
I'm honestly having a hard time working out if the posters in this thread who are asserting that Rittenhouse wasn't justified are;1.) Very elaborate trolls.2.) Actual 60IQ retards, who haven't seen and don't care to see, the raw unedited footage of what actually happened.3.) Leftards who are salty that anyone dared to actively oppose the actions of antifa/BLM and who will think up any and every justification, no matter how absurd, to deligitimise Rittenhouses actions.4.) Paid astroturf shills.I'm not sure sure which one is worse.
>>736526>muh straw menNah.
>>736526The answer is #3. /news/ is composed almost entirely of lefties from plebbit and bunkerchan and elsewhere who come here to argue but cant handle /pol/ or /int/ or /his/ so they hide in here.
>>736516So what you are saying anon, is that you love and respect jewish people and think that black people are equal to all other races in terms of IQ quotients? You believe that women are as smart as men? That gay people are no different to straight people?Let's hear you say that you love and respect jewish people and that black people are the equal of white people. C'mon anon, I'm a parody of myself, so let's hear you prove me wrong...
Happy Thanksgiving to all REAL Americans. Especially heroes such as Kyle Rittenhouse. And don't forget we have a basic right to live, and we have the 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves with, as Kyle has proven. Use it, or lose itAs for the bitter and clinically depressed radical leftists who don't believe in American traditions...they can go fuck off, smoke their dope, shoot their heroin, snort their coke, or do whatever kind of antidepressant they choose.
>>736526It's both 2 and 3, because the 3s lie to the 2s. There are leftists who watched the footage and read the report and they agree that it was self defense. Those leftists are the liberals who believe in universal human rights, even for rightwingers. The ones who still deny that it was self defense are invariably far left or taking advantage of the far left. They NEED him to be a racist mass shooter because otherwise it would break their narrative about the right. They need all rightwingers to be Nazis, or else the left aren't always heroes.
>>736658If the footage was what it was and he wasn't carrying a rifle that he used to try to murder 3 people, it would just be another nazi larping piece of shit like (you) getting into a fight with antifa or random dipshits like some of these people.As it stands, it's another far right murder spree by a dripping pussy who is only hard with a firearm.Have any of you alt-softcocks ever heard of fists? It's what men use in other countries to solve violent disputes, they're awesome, you should try them out sometime, they stop you going to jail for decades like kyle most of the time.
>>736661Maybe fists are good tools for the wannabe-badass dipshits like yourself.In a case such as Kyle's of being highly outnumbered by people who wanted to kill him, that plan doesn't work...it doesn't work for elderly people... disabled people.. most women etc .Don't be a dumb fuck kuk. People have the right to own firearms and they should use them as needed to protect themselves.If you choose to be disarmed and live some fantasy about being in a UFC ring with the other idiots, have at it...badass.
>>736661You're not entitled to a fist-fight. People are entitled to defend themselves from your assaults, especially when you mob them, beat them with blunt objects, and repeatedly express the desire to kill them. If you don't want to get shot, stop picking fights.
>>736492If you're not an American then it's really not clear why you're running your mouth off about a legal system you don't know jack shit about.
>>733430He violated police curfew, and Wisconsin law states that one cannot plea self-defense if their illegal conduct lead up to the altercation
>>737336>939.48(2)(a) (a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.Self-defense privilege is not affected by illegal activity unless you were doing something which was likely to provoke an attack (which breaking curfew is not) and even then it only raises the bar to "feared death or great bodily harm", which is already the standard under which he was going to be judged since it is the standard for the deployment of lethal force.
>>737339You can write that up and send it to him when he gets to prison, your great words of wisdom will no doubt be really soothing in between daily buttblastings.
>>737336>and Wisconsin law states that one cannot plea self-defense if their illegal conduct
>>737339Like confronting politically opposed aligned protests while brandishing a rifle.And turning to vigilante once riot/suppression starts.Once again, brandishing his rifle he illegally straw bough just for the occasion.The key thing is that if the kid was black, he'd been damn nearly shot on sight when the crowd pointed him out. And he'd be framed as some sort of gang member.The only possible way to morally support this guy is being submerged in breitbart juice to the neck.
>>736334>Kyle Rittenhouse consented to having a convicted violent felon attack himDon't be retarded. Kenosha is also an example of self defense.>>738385he didn't confront them, he actually tried to retreat but they attacked him.>brandishingwhy do noguns like being wrong so much?>if the kid was blackOkay. Let's play this game: Thousands of violent white supremacists are setting buildings on fire. Do you think the government lets them do that? And then a black person gets attacked by a white supremacist. He tries to retreat, but is unable to and is forced to defend himself from said white supremacist. It is undisputed that the black person never instigated anything and did everything he could to avoid violence. Would you blame the black person? Would you call him a terrorist? Would you defend the bigots who attacked him UNPROVOKED? Would you claim that he should have stayed home and that merely by walking in public he deserved to be murdered?The key thing is you are a complete piece of shit whose toxic hatred of white people has blinded you.The only possible way to morally oppose this guy is being submerged in HuffPo juice to the neck.
>>736334>Your second example is matter of consent, not self defense. Don't be retarded...Wow these goalposts are all over the place. Where to begin? People consent to being attacked by pedophiles/rapists? "Vigilantes" aren't allowed to protect themselves from criminals?
>>738385>while brandishing a rifle.Now this looks familiar. Hmmm where have I seen this before? Oh yes! I remember. >>736866
>>738423Wow you are super good at remembering words!
>>738416Oh look it's another far right tard here to shill for magic and mysticism. If someone in an altercation gets attacked or killed and turns out to have a criminal past, it totally justifies everything that happened based on psychic feelings that occurred during the incident!
>>738505He went there to protect against criminals destroying property.The people he shot were criminals.
>>738508So a criminal shot a criminal. Half the job is done, now we just shoot the other and put them both under the jail, right? Right.Alright, show's over guys. Thread's closed. Aids.
the guy brought a loaded gun to a riot and someone ended up attacking him and he ended up shooting that person so this guy gets what he gets which is 10 years in jail or some s***. tough luck, dumb nuts
hope he rots in a jail cell with bubba so he gets nightly rapings
This thread is pure cancer
>>738518cry more emo patriot kid.
>>738509legitimately theres nothing wrong with this. the punishment for crime should be death. if a civillian happens to carry out the punishment before law enforcement can, they should get a get out of death free card that allows them to commit 1 crime
>>732931>Sigh... he's definitely getting acquitted.Good
>>738518Then you're not on this board often enough. /news/ threads are worse than this on a regular basis. Especially in the months leading up to the election.
>>738385>The only possible way to morally support this guy...... is by actually knowing what morality is, and realizing it's in full support of this kid.What he did, even the context and circumstances that led him to this, was morally justified in the most literal, purest sense of the word, and he did everything right, and not possible for it to be anything else. What his "victims" did, or tried to do, on the other hand, was not morally justified, and not right to do. And there's nothing that supports them but immorality, amorality, and lack of basic logic. THEY'RE in the wrong, not the kid.
>>738549Rittenhouse an ordinary murderer. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>738556If that's true, then this is one of the rare instances where murder was the moral thing to do.
>>738557Such instances exist only if you're a satanist or baptist or evangelicalist or something like that and damned to burn in hell anyway.Actual Christian morals make no exceptions for white supremacist cunts. A murderer deserves no forgiveness, their soul shall burn in hell for all eternity. Deviants who side with a murderer shall hang and burn with them. Ask any priest.
>>738549That's cute kid. Being a grown adult trying to play cops and robbers IRL with a loaded gun automatically takes away any claim to morality.Carrying a gun around people without the training and accountability that goes along with a badge and the structural organization and training behind it automatically puts you on the wrong side of morality. Even if cops in many states are often laughably trained for a short period.As kyle proved effectively, you are literally one second away from being an active shooter when you are open carrying, which is why people despise and distrust you for attempting to do so. It's also why they will go out of their way to hurt you when you do so, why should they trust you with a loaded firearm around their kids? Most people are too stupid to even operate basic appliances or vehicles safely.You will always be escalating any situation by carrying a firearm, which is exactly what he went there to achieve, and why his life is now over. Playing amateur firefighter wasn't enough to escalate the conflict, but he got there in the end.
ITT; lot of retards using feelings to deny facts of the matter, believing that if they feel hard enough about it they will overturn the rulings of the law and judicial system. I hope they rule in favor of Mr. Rittenhouse, but I highly suspect there would be a shitstorm of civil unrest and we will get to see Kenosha 2.0
>>738431And you're super good at getting shit wrong. It wasn't brandishing. Retard.
>>738505>If someone in an altercation gets attacked or killed and turns out to have a criminal past, it totally justifies everything that happened based on psychic feelings that occurred during the incident!Well it at least makes the lawyer's job that much easier to prove self defense.
>>738603>I hope they rule in favor of Mr. Rittenhouse, but I highly suspect there would be a shitstorm of civil unrest and we will get to see Kenosha 2.0So be it. We can't let these animals get their way every time they throw a temper tantrum. If one innocent life can be thrown away for convenience then none have any worth in this country. Besides we're already looking at Kenosha 2.0 with every state doing 3 week lockdowns.
>>738641It's almost like if cops stopped shooting so many unarmed civilians, none of this would need to take place.But you can carry on bootlicking from the serenity of your cosy, sheltered, middle class existence while expecting everyone else to just keep taking it and be a bootlicking blue lives dog like you are.
He and the Armed Louisville Couple are KAPUT.The Progressive Overlords will see to their liquidation.
>>7386591) Making a lot of assumptions there.and2) 99.99% of the time those shootings you chimp out over turn out to be justified, but you fucking faggots are still rioting over them even when they're clearly in the wrong. And before you even start tell me right now: Was the shooting of Dreasjon Reed justified? Yes or no?Give me a definite yes or no, or shut the fuck up.
>>738659>if cops stopped shooting so many unarmed civiliansI haven't seen any protests/riots that care about that though. All the ones we're talking about, including Kenosha, just want the black unarmed (and armed) civilians to be treated the same as white ones. Which means they would still be shot, and there would still be riots because these people just like rioting and having an excuse to hate whitey.>>738505can you show me the evidence that Kyle consented to having a violent terrorist attack him?
>>738708How can any shooting of an unarmed woman or child be justified? Of so many civilians who are clearly not armed and barely dangerous? Take a look at how less retarded police forces overseas handle crisis situations with unarmed people, they mostly manage to keep the people alive. Shoot first ask questions later policing is a fucking disgrace, as are you for defending it.>>738716That's a ridiculous disingenuous strawman argument not worthy of replying to.I can't show you any evidence of violent terrorists, sorry. But I can show you the evidence that kyle consented to being attacked by people at kenosha, he got his friend to buy the evidence for him. (It's the fucking gun again).
>>738568>Actual Christian morals...... are often the worst morals. Religion-based morality is always shit.>Ask any priest.A pedophile's opinion does not, and should not, count.
>>738759"you should go unarmed to a violent riot when you intend to clean up and keep people from destroying property" You wouldn't be crying so hard if he was killed and beaten to a pulp, but some 17 year old kid killed 2 fully grown men and disintegrated anothers arm. A man who was walking up to execute a minor had a kid clear a jam and blow his bicep apart. A man with a criminal record, all men with criminal records vs a kid who just wanted to help out his community. There's not a single way you can spin it from your side where rioters don't look like the ones in the wrong.
>>738786Nice larp. No one declared any intention of killing the kid, you just made it up in your head.No one said anything about killing him in any of the evidence, in fact the pedo said the exact opposite and dared him to kill him instead. They wanted to get the gun away from a random potential psycho, and tried non lethal means to do it.Kyle was a bit like Homer Simpson when he got his hand stuck in the vending machine because it didn't occur to him to let go of the can, if he wasn't carrying a firearm, they wouldn't have been after him.Creepy how you fetishize clearing the gun jam, licking your lips savouring the exquisite violence of a bicep blowing apart. IM FUCKING CUMMING!! OPEN CARRRRRRRRYYYYY!!!! HNNNNGGG!!
>>738759>How can any shooting of an unarmed woman or child be justified?Okay here's an easy one: Ferguson's "gentle giant", Michael Brown. You know, the guy everyone swears was on his knees with his hands up and got executed by a racist cop? Hands Up Don't Shoot? That guy? Yeah it turns out forensics is racist, because there's NO WAY that this innocent rocket scientist could go up to a cop, punch the officer and try to take his gun from him. And the fucked up thing is you people are still defending him. Darren Wilson still can't get a job as a cop because he didn't want to die that day. So there's one example of how a shooting of an unarmed 'child' can be justified. PLEASE PLEASE try to defend Brown. >Of so many civilians who are clearly not armed and barely dangerous?Such as? See you'll give a dumbass example and then I'll tell you why he had to be shot. Then you'll stick your fingers in your ears and go "Nuh uh! In Germany they would have shot him in the leg!" Who gives a fuck how they handle shit in other countries overseas? Those overseas countries play by different rules, they DON'T have to worry about being sued for every little thing, AND they don't have to worry about police brutality cases. They can, and I've posted videos of this on /news/, slap the shit out of you if you don't cooperate. Is that what you want our police to be like?
>>738817>No one declared any intention of killing the kid, you just made it up in your head.Grosskreutz himself said he regrets not magdumping the kid.
>>738828>20/20 hindsight stated as pre-emptive facts again.Why are conservatards like this?
>>738824Just admit you enjoy the idea and the reality of cops killing civilians, why twist your tiny brain into such elaborate knots?
>>738831Okay then. The guys yelling "Get his ass" and "Fuck him up" doesn't imply that they wanted to commit serious bodily harm or death? A whole crowd of people yelling this chasing after one kid running towards police for safety?
>>738836Just admit you can't counter-argue any of my points. You've got nothing.
>>738838It implies they wanted to nullify a person with a loaded firearm who kept pretending to be an authority figure. As you stated yourself, the guy had a gun he could of used to shoot at kyle all along, but didn't until the shooting started.Kyle could have ended the whole situation by giving up the gun, or not having it with him to begin with. Having stupid laws that state people are allowed to carry loaded firearms in public will never mean that people are going to accept you or allow you to go as you please when you are a threat to them.
>>738851Fuck him up is code for nullify a person. Okay.>the guy had a gun he could of used to shoot at kyle all along, but didn't until the shooting started.As if we didn't watch the video of him point a gun at Kyle.>Kyle could have ended the whole situation by giving up the gun>Being chased by an angry mob when you're 100 yards away from the police you're running towards.>Give up the gun - your only means of defense.FUCKING BRILLIANT! 10 OUT OF 10 LOGIC!
>>732931I've been trying to ignore this side show that the media has been trying to make us all focus on, but since I kinda did what Kyle did, I figure I must make some comment.Back in the Rodney King riots (yes, I am old), I went to extract a dear old friend from a nasty neighborhood, and she didn't have car. This meant driving about 50 miles, maybe three or four of which were on fire, and yes, I had my gun in my glovebox.Now, given I had gone out of my way to go into a situation where I knew there was a good chance I'd be forced to shoot someone, I believe, had I done so, I shoulda been charged with some sort of stupidity. Cuz yes, this was stupid, though my younger self severely overestimated how much danger she was in.Now, given the mitigating factor that I was doing so in defense of a young unarmed woman, while I'd expect the charge to be major (perhaps manslaughter), I'd expect the sentence to be relatively minor - maybe time served, suspended sentence, probation, community service - plus all the money for court fees and bail. (Plus, first offense and all.)Now Kyle, SFAIK, in addition to having an extensive criminal record related to this sort of behavior, had no reason to be there other than to fight darkies though, am I wrong here? Did he have some reason to go armed into a riot situation? Cuz if not, that's a bit more than young stupidity.
>>738851>It implies they wanted to nullify a person with a loaded firearm who kept pretending to be an authority figure."Nullifying" still indicates intent to bodily harm, gun or no.
>>738851>Kyle could have ended the whole situation by giving up the gunhe could've been killed for giving it up
>>738880>in addition to having an extensive criminal record related to this sort of behaviorWhat?> had no reason to be there other than to fight darkies thoughAre we still doing the 'Kyle is a white supremacist' bit? He only shot white people. You do realize this?
>>738880>Did he have some reason to go armed into a riot situation?About as much as everyone else there: to be involved with a situation (i.e.: the protests) that's seen as getting out of hand. Whether they looking to join said protests, or "defend" properties against them.>had no reason to be there other than to fight darkies thoughAccording to family, he used to be pro-BLM and civil rights, and was initially for the protests, but the consistent vandalism was what finally turned him off.
>>738840Michael Brown case is more textbook shitty policing defended by idiots such as yourself.Cop grabs a large young man by the throat from a sitting position in his car, instantly, violently escalating a non-violent situation and doing so from this sitting position where he has no purchase to get any grip or control of the situation, does not prepare himself for a fight with a potential violent offender with any non lethal means, though he has plenty as a cop.Some people have a short fuse and will fight anyone who violently assaults them, amazingly, fighting a cop is not a capital crime that carries an automatic death sentence in the US, nor is stealing cigarillos.The only means of controlling a delinquent teenager this shitty excuse for a cop had was 11 bullets. Then, after that piss poor effort he washed blood off of his hands without photographing them first, submitted his gun to evidence by himself, and they said that initial interviews of him were conducted with other personnel present and were not taped. His face injuries after the shooting are photographed by a local detective at the Fraternal Order of Police building, instead of at Ferguson Police headquarters. An investigator with the St. Louis County Medical Examiner's office testified he decided not to take measurements at the crime scene nor did he photograph the scene, instead relying on photographs taken by the St. Louis County Police DepartmentSo all that's left is mangled evidence and a bunch of different stories and you expect people to believe this idiot cop?You can't believe that no one wants to hire a guy who executed a 17 year old for shoplifting instead of being capable of arresting him?
>>738884Nope, like I said, I've been trying to ignore this bullshit where a single instance of violence suddenly becomes make it or break it for the whole nation - much as Rodney King did.Seems he was an avid "Blue Lives Matter" poster high school dropout, and the only motive he gives for driving out there that I can find is to, "To protect his people.”, which, unless he means someone he knows personally or family, sounds racist as hell, and the stories I see are that he's been charged with include operating a firearm while intoxicated, failing to obey an officer, and drug possession. So, not a first time offender.But if he was there to rescue someone, at least I could equate his stupidity with my own. Not his first offense, so I don't expect him to get off as easily as I expected to, but most likely, a mitigated sentence of one sort or another.So the question becomes, why was he there?
>>738888>needing citations for implicationsYou're retarded.
>>738886>Cop grabs a large young man by the throat from a sitting position in his car, instantly, violently escalating a non-violent situation and doing so from this sitting position where he has no purchase to get any grip or control of the situation, does not prepare himself for a fight with a potential violent offender with any non lethal means, though he has plenty as a cop.This line right here is so fucking stupid I'm not even going to bother right now with the rest of your post. I'm done. I'm taking a break. Someone else can fucking educate you on what happened in Ferguson since you can't be bothered to google shit.
>>738902>witness statements are lefty lies even when there are multiple corroborations only cops can be trusted to tell the truth-The Post
>>738902Go take your pills boomer, have a little lie down.
>>738909>witness statements = hands up don't shoot>forensic evidence = what really happened
>>738759>But I can show you the evidence that kyle consented to being attacked by people at kenosha, he got his friend to buy the evidence for him. (It's the fucking gun again).okay, then:>But I can show you the evidence that the rape victim consented to being raped. It's her fucking slutty clothes!
>>738920>such an incel he thinks unarmed womens can be compared to loaded guns
>>738922we're talking about consent and victim-blaming anon. Claiming that a man taking reasonable and necessary precautions to defend against terrorists means that he "consented" to being violently attacked is no different than saying a scantily clad woman "consented" to rape.
>>738926There's limits to that though.I mean, if a social worker goes into a rapist prison lunchroom wearing a thong bikini - yeah, you still charge all those guys with rape, but you charge her with some sorta criminal incitement/negligence/insanity as well (in addition to her obviously losing her job).Similarly, if you go into a Syrian war zone with a giant star of David painted on your back and a machine gun, you're looking for trouble.And if you go into a riot armed to bear, just to shoot people. Does he have any other motive for being there, other than to violently get his rocks off? Does he work around there? Does someone he knows live around there? ...because if it really was just for the opportunity to live out some sorta war fantasy...
>>738926>Claiming that a man taking reasonable and necessary precautions to defend against terrorists meansIt wasn't reasonable nor necessary, and it wasn't against a terrorist organization. Your loaded lies themselves are the problem
>>738933>Does he have any other motive for being there, other than to violently get his rocks off?Well there was that medkit he had and him on camera rallying people to him who needed medical attention. That and the interview he did before the incident where he said he's there to help people and the rifle is for his own protection.But fuck it, he just went there to shoot people. Just living out some sorta war fantasy... with a medkit.
>>738938>Well there was that medkit he had and him on camera rallying people to him who needed medical attentionThank you, that's the sort of thing I was looking for.Given that he ended up shooting a couple of off-white guys, I guess we can chalk this up to young stupidity at trying to play the vigilante hero then.Hopefully he just gets the proper sentence for being a young idiot roleplaying at being a vigilante EMT, rather than have the book thrown at him as an example, because the media on both sides decided to make this a rallying point.
>>738938>b-but muh medkit!Every mass shooter is going to be able to get off scott-free now using the patented alt-retard medkit defence in court now!Omar should have taken once to the pulse nightclub, maybe some free condoms to hand out!Next time I bang your mother anon, I'm taking along a medkit, and then if I wind up in divorce court with my wife, I'm gonna say I was just there to check the fat magamum for the diabeetus!
>>738943>>738938Considering his med kit was a 4th the size of his gun says what his motivations really where
>>738954>Every mass shooter is going to be able to get off scott-free now using the patented alt-retard medkit defence in court now!Don't forget to run away from everyone you want to kill. It's important active shooters remember that - make every effort to run away from the school children you want to shoot up until they knock you down on the ground. Seriously, talk about grasping at straws.>Considering his med kit was a 4th the size of his gun says what his motivations really whereReally? The medkit wasn't big enough is your argument. I'm sorry but AR-15s only come in so many sizes. Or was he supposed to use a tiny ass .22 pistol? It wouldn't of stopped a charging pedo-rapist but at least your fragile sensibilities would be checked.
>>738937>it wasn't against a terrorist organizationReal high IQ internet tough guy over here.Yeah it's not like these riots all happened at the same time, over an imagined grievance, with a common political identity, using violence as a means to seize control of local government. JFC do you think 9/11 was just some good ol' boys having a wank?
>>738955Well, even he had gone without the gun, given the lack of medical training, he probably woulda ended up doing more harm than good and gotten charged with being an idiot.But army field medic fantasy has gotta get him some brownie points.
>>738956Also remember to take a gun along for 'protection' from helping people as a medic although you are actually provoking them into a fight by putting out dumpster fires started by unstable people who might attack you.It helps if you take your gun into an area where shots are being fired so your enemies will think you are an active shooter in the confusion and attack you so you can murder them!
>>738962How old is this kid again? Much more apt to go with fantasy gone wrong than tactical genius.
>>738967This shit has been a uniquely american problem for a long time, there will be many more like him, and lots more bodies.
>>738957>Yeah it's not like these riots all happened at the same time,We live in a digital information age, gramps>over an imagined grievance,I'm sure the dead and shot people are real>with a common political identity,It's as if it's a belief shared by many people.>using violence as a means to seize control of local government.What government has been taken over? Name me any municipal government that has been taken over. I mean the mayor, secretary, the whole municipal government being replaced by violent uprising and change of seat.You are a moron at best, immoral otherwise
>>738993don't forget the ol' cities LITERALLY burned to the ground!!1!!1one!!!!1!!! trope the far right love so much
>>738993>What government has been taken over?Seattle ceded actual physical territory to these violent racists. Numerous cities INCLUDING KENOSHA effectively surrendered to the rioters, allowing them to commit crimes and do anything they wanted with impunity. > I mean the mayor, secretary, the whole municipal government being replaced by violent uprising and change of seatNo need to change the seat, if the government surrenders (which many local governments including Kenosha did) then it's the same end result.>>738937look at this idiot, he got so used to the "Antifa technically isn't an organization so you can't call them a terrorist organization!" line that he forgot to read. Nobody called them a terrorist "organization" idiot, just terrorists. Which they are.>It wasn't reasonable or necessarythe fact that he had to use it to avoid being beaten by violent felons says otherwise.>>738995What the fuck is this shit holy fucking cringe GET THE FUCK BACK TO REBBIT RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>733814GET THE FUFK OUT
>>739006So no government has been taken over. Quit with your retarded lies.
>>739006Do you think kyle will have a black or white bf to protect him and share in the joys of his asshole when he gets to max anon?Or will he even get to choose? Kyle was only there to kindly provide logistics support to BLM protesters, so I think he will probably wind up with a black man personally. Plus he's already killed a few white bois, so he can probably join the crips or the bloods if he wants, and he also enjoys drive by shootings of unsuspecting victims.
>>738887Uhhh... you do realize Kyle was enlisted in some sort of junior police program right? Doubt they would have accepted him had he had priors like what you claim. Are you sure you are not confusing this with a rap sheet of one of the other jewish sounding individuals involved here?
>>739032What is it with democrats/leftists being sexual deviants like this? Are you upset that one of your own got capped? This is like the 50th post of someone larping their fantasies on /news/. Go to /b/ and jerk off there.
>>738511They happen to rape and stab the sex offenders more often in prison, especially the ones that diddle kids. If Kyle does go to prison I guarantee he is at least getting a pat on the back, maybe a coupon for one free fuck with the prison wife on the block.
>>739038When kyle does go to prison I guarantee he is at least getting a pat on the colon, maybe a coupon to be the prison wife on the block
>>739035But my fantasy is watching evil cunts like you seethe as the republican empire crumbles and and far right and white power structures are swept away. I'll be living that dream when this murderous little coward goes to prison for murder.
>>739039Your shitpost has not ceded my ability to cope. Absolute worst case scenario Kyle goes down as a martyr for those who don't care much for antifa / blm and quite possibly a national hero to some.
>>739035Sounds like he struck a nerve
>>739045Sounds like the bar for heroics for the party of family values is quite low.
>>739047>Killing two violent terrorists and wounding a thirdThat has always been heroic you idiot
>>739035As a conservative with a BRAP fetish I take offense to the notion that deviancy has anything to do with leftism.>>739014Let's put it this way: The governments is numerous major cities supported the terrorists and we're afraid to resist them. Seattle even surrendered territory, including a police station, to them
>>739049Whew lads, they got this clown hook, line, and sinker
>>739043>and far right and white power structuresWhatever nigga.>>739046No it's just the shit is annoying. I'm here to argue politics, not listen to some fag's minor rape fantasy. >I take offense to the notion that deviancy has anything to do with leftism.What other party defends rapists so heavily? Like it never occurred to anyone in this thread that perhaps Rosenbaum deserved to die for being a piece of shit.
>>739055Oh no his feelings! ~what ever shall he do?~
>>739057Soft "r's" are cringey as all hell. Other than that I agree with you, but please either use a hard "r" or not use the term "nigger" at all. It's giving me flash backs to all the 9 year old white kids on Call of Duty trying to act up.
>>739061It was good enough for Rosenbaum.
>>739057>What other party defends rapists so heavily?You don't wanna know
>>739057Listen to whiteboi Travis posting that racial street jive talk from his shithole flyover state middle class suburban existenceThere haven't been any minor fantasies, sorry. K-hole Kyle will be a major by the time he is having his ring rearranged, and entirely legal for prison rape. It is my great pleasure to remind you that there will be no russian puppet president to pardon him by that time, and his trial will not be over before January 20.You have been informed again and again ITT that any crimes committed by any of the murder victims prior to their attendence at the Kenosha protests have no bearing on their murders because the Kenosha Shooter did not know them or anything about them when he murdered them.ps, you haven't argued politics at all ITT, just points of law and ethics, and badly, from your limited perspective and level of understanding.
>>739066>have no bearing on their murders because the Kenosha Shooter did not know them or anything about them when he murdered them.Kyle's defense team will use the fact that the people he killed were intent on doing him violence when they were shot, which will be greatly assisted by the fact that they were violent felons predisposed to violence.
>>739071And the prosecution will undoubtedly use the video of Kyle assaulting a woman hours before the protest and footage of kyle murdering people
>>739052It's as if they aren't terrorists and you are just dumb.
>>739073Which is not going to make a dent against him, even in the best case scenario.
>>739110>>739075Does sage still work? What's the reply limit?Fucking sage in all fieldssage
>>739112news/ threads last fucking forever if people keep bumping, which he will, he really needs this cope. Especially after the election.
>>739034None of the sources I glossed over specify. The one counter I see to gives it a "partial truth" by claiming that all those charges are pending, but that would also mean he was likely in violation of parole, and no one's brought that up. One would think it'd be too obvious a juicy tidbit to pass by.(Also one of those "jewish sounding" guys was a ginger, so...)Granted, a lot of junior police programs aren't particularly picky, depending on the municipality. More research than I wanna sink into something that doesn't concern me though.
>>739112Sage doesn't really "work" on 4chan, and never has. It just means your post doesn't bump the thread to the top, but it doesn't push it down either. You'll have to bump every other thread to do that.
>>739066>from his shithole flyover state middle class suburban existencelol implying I'm not posting from a blue state near an ocean. Sorry, but not everyone who disagrees with you is some sister-fucking hillbilly.
>>738568>A murderer deserves no forgiveness, their soul shall burn in hell for all eternityKek, you dont understand christian morality, gun laws, or the American legal system. Why do you choose to be exclusively wrong on everything you post about?>>738591Thats cute kid, being a grown adult trying to play revolutionary IRL with fire bombs and clubs automatically takes away any claim to not be an enemy combatant.
>>739112>WTF I downvoted you, why isn't this thread going away!?are you the redditor that was already exposed earlier or are you a new one?>>739075>It's as if the people using mass violence, threats, and destruction for the purposes of spreading fear in order to promote their hateful ideology aren't terroristsno I'm pretty sure that's not it.>dumbimagine calling somebody "dumb" when you literally didn't even know the definition of a terrorist.>>739116>copeare you the anon who doesn't know the definition of terrorist? Or the anon who claimed that Kyle consented to being violently beaten by terrorists? Or the one who is so dumb they thought that if people riot so hard that a large section of the city is dangerous, it magically removes everybody's right to self-defense?Because those are the anons coping in this thread.
>>739170>never hasDo you even remember what the word means?What's uncertain is whether it still counts as more than one reply toward thread bump limits, or if bump limits are even still in effect since the ownership change.
>>739482>>WTF I downvoted you, why isn't this thread going away!?>are you the redditor that was already exposed earlier or are you a new one?It's so easy to tell when somebody's only wound up using 4chan because they couldn't fit in on any other platform.Poor bb, hope /pol/ is comfy enough 4 u
>>739482So you think cops are terrorists. I'm glad to see that you support their restructuring
>>739615Nope, sage never did anything. It just added a post to a thread without bumping it (even pushing a thread to the top is actually doing something). It doesn't even push a thread further down, which is the popular misconception around sage. It just means contributing to a thread without sending it to the top. If you want to push a thread down, you'll have to bump every other threads instead.>What's uncertain is whether it still counts as more than one reply toward thread bump limitsIt does, but it being a saged post or not doesn't make a difference.
>>739616>making the most cringe attempt at insulting somebody because you banned them from your echo-chambersk>>739620>enforcing law and order is terrorismthis is your brain on leftism.
>>739482I'm the anon who thinks the Kenosha Shooter is going to be open carrying his colon in both hands at around knee level after his first decade or so of doing the jailhouse rock.
So, why is it the whole nation has to flip out everytime some idiot kills another idiot?Well, not every time, but it seems the media loves to repeatedly bump these sorta stupid situations, which is what lead to these riots to begin with. Then somehow try to frame in such a way that these isolated incidents of idiots killing idiots, are not only commonplace, but are grounds for civil war....and we just eat it up, every, fucking, time.WTF is wrong with us!? Why do we keep falling for this?
>>740041>I'm the anon who is obsessed 24/7 with bizarre homoerotic fantasiesoh that guy.
>>740106Why would you label kyle being turned out as homoerotic? It's only homoerotic if kyle enjoys his inevitable prison rape.Why are you calling the Greatest American Hero since George Washington gay anon? Why do you hate america?
>>739901>>enforcing law and order is terrorismMurdering civilians with no due process is not law and order, dumbass
>>740143The current score is Kyle 1, gay rapists 0, and in all likelihood it'll stay that way.
>>740236>get called to the scene of a domestic disturbance>find man with a warrant for violent felonies>try to arrest him>he fights you>try to taze him>he shakes it off>draw your gun and order him to stop>he runs to his car to grab unknown object out>social justice dipshit accuses you of "murdering civilians with no due process"The Kenosha riots were to defend a violent criminal who fought police, resisted a peaceful arrest, and gave police every reason to suspect he was about to grab a gun to shoot them.
Why are police so ineffective at accomplishing their only purpose? Why do they keep stealing my tax dollars?
>>740236>dindu nuffin>the post
>>740255Because they are regulated internally
>>740255>>740260It's because the local government owns them. And in most cities the local government is run by pro-crime Democrats. Police in cities like Seattle and Portland wanted to do their job, but Democrats told them they had to let the terrorists win.
>>740301Consoom less propaganda please
>>740304not an argument
NWO commie tactic.. focus on Kyle ignore the violent riot by commie invaders.
some part of me loves news because of its insane lefties who come here and only want agreement with eachother, pol is a better board because of all the shit flinging and memes and not self absorbed faggots
>>740417>because of its insane lefties who come here and only want agreement with eachotherEverybody does that, Anon.>pol is a better board because of all the shit flinging and memes and not self absorbed faggotsThat's exactly what they are, Anon. Just virtually everywhere else on this site.
>>732931Kyle did nothing wrong!
>>740084Because we're idiots.
>>740301>Police in cities like Seattle and Portland wanted to do their job, but Democrats told them they had to let the terrorists win.There are no terrorists. Also it's not the police's job to kill people.Only pro-crime person is you