After telling a bunch of lies, Israel is trying to understand why people aren't trusting them on the world stagehttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/information-missteps-led-questions-israels-credibility-rcna125723Information missteps have led to questions about Israel’s credibilityIsrael has released several pieces of incorrect or disputed information, leading to weakened credibility and online ridicule.Israel’s public-relations machine has gone into overdrive in recent weeks to make the case that its pummeling of Gaza has been necessary and conducted in a way meant to minimize civilian deaths. It has allowed journalists, including those from NBC News, to embed with its soldiers in Gaza, maintained a steady drumbeat of social media posts, and made Israeli representatives available for TV appearances.But in its recent outreach to global allies, Israel has released several pieces of inaccurate or disputed information including claiming that an Arabic calendar was a shift schedule for Hamas kidnappers, and using curtains as evidence that hostage videos had been filmed in a hospital.The widespread reaction calling out these questionable pieces of evidence has weakened Israel’s credibility, according to some experts, and could lead to a boy-who-cried-wolf situation unless concrete evidence for a Hamas headquarters is found beneath Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospital, one of Israel’s key contentions at this stage of the warIsrael knows the international debate matters. While the White House backs Israel’s stated goal to destroy Hamas in response to its Oct. 7 attack that killed some 1,200 people, Biden administration officials have privately expressed concerns that the Israel Defense Forces are not doing enough to avoid civilian deaths, of which there have been more than 12,000, over half of whom were women and children, according to Palestinian health officials.
A mistaken calendar and curtains lead to ridiculeMuch of Israel’s PR effort has centered on hospitals, where IDF strikes have contributed to a soaring Palestinian death toll. Israel has maintained that Hamas uses the facilities as military bases, making them legitimate targets. Hamas has denied those claims.The Israeli military says at Al-Shifa it has found one tunnel shaft, a vehicle containing weapons and other caches of guns and ammo. Nearby, Israel said its soldiers found the bodies of Yehudit Weiss, a civilian hostage, and Noa Marciano, a 19-year-old soldier, who were both taken by Hamas on Oct. 7.But efforts to prove its case have at times hurt Israel’s cause.Most notably, IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari showed what he said was evidence that the Al-Rantisi hospital had been used by Hamas to detain hostages. He pointed to a piece of paper, saying that it showed a rota for guarding the captives. “Every terrorist has his own shift,” he said.
Written above the document in pen was “Al-Aqsa Flood,” Hamas’ name for its Oct. 7 assault. But Arabic speakers pointed out that the rest of the paper merely showed days of the week, with no trace of the Hamas captors’ names described by Hagari.Elsewhere in the hospital, he pointed out curtains had been hung on a wall with no window. There was “no reason” to do this “unless you want to film hostages and deliver movies,” Hagari said.Some people from the region pointed out that this is a common interior decor theme among Palestinian households.In response, the IDF told NBC News that it had issued a “prompt correction” to Hagari’s calendar comment, and that any “suggestions that the IDF is manipulating the media are incorrect.”“We are taking all necessary precautions to report as much information as we can,” it said in a statement, “whilst maintaining the safety of our troops and retaining our operational readiness.”Nevertheless, ridicule soon followed. Videos on social media have lampooned increasingly ridiculous and mundane objects held up as “IDF evidence.”
Israel has been accused of spreading misinformation before. Last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesperson for Arab media, Ofir Gendelman, posted to X a video that he claimed showed Gazans faking their injuries with makeup. Despite countless people correcting him that the footage was in fact from a Lebanese film, it had not been deleted as of Friday.Attacking a hospital is a war crime unless a military or militant group is using it for operations, according to the International Committee of the Red Cross. Even then, doctors and patients must be warned, with extra care taken not to harm those who stay.Israel says it has warned doctors and patients at hospitals it says are being used by Hamas. But many doctors say they are unable to transfer critical patients and unwilling to leave them behind. Doctors at Al-Shifa have vehemently denied it is being used as a militant base.
>>1237441Who else besides the US and the UK are still defending Israel on the world stage?
Jews lying? Nuh-uh. I can't even believe it!
>>1237446Boomers in the US still defend them. Republican and Democrat
>>1237441Chuck Schumer stands with Israel 110%!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFVNsrSdZtANever again He shouts.....as the Palestinian babies bleed
>>1237564Chuck Schumer is a jew so it makes sense.
>>1237441>unless concrete evidence for a Hamas headquarters is found beneath Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospitalso if they just fabricate a "enemy headquarters" after the fact it justifies all of israel's war crimes, good to know, NBCnormally one would confirm the existence of a headquarters BEFORE dropping bombs on hospitals but that doesnt apply to god's chosen peoplethey definitely didnt do it to clear the way for israeli settlers in gaza by completely eliminating the palestinian people in palestinethese zionists, who will not let you forget about the genocide of jews during the holocaust, are right now subjecting others to genocidei have even heard arguments that it cant be considered genocide because there are so many other muslims in the world
>>1237571Every single time there's a conflict in the region, Israel bombs a hospital and calls it a base.There's no basis for believing it this time since it's always proven false.Additionally, jews are the chosen people according to themselves and non-jews are as low as animals to them. So they will complain about a supposed genocide, but that doesn't mean they are able to gain compassion for non-jews by studying an event of genocide.
>be minding your own business>suddenly attacked by a foreign adversary, thousands of your citizens turned into mulch by a bunch of goatfuckers>retaliate by embargoing and indiscriminately bombing the offending country, killing thousands of civilians in the first month>when called out by your allies you immediately claim victim status and accuse anybody who is against your interests, or even neutral, is an existential threat to your existence>go retard^2 and start doxxing American citizens who protesting the indiscriminate bombings, send activist groups after them and ruin their lives in the name of 'self defense'>entire operation is actually a front for expanding your territory and solidifying your presence in the middle-east>tfw United States of America
>>1237573are you being paid to respond to me?you added absolutely nothing to the conversationif your handlers wanted you to radicalize people online they should fire you immediately
>>1237575Whoa, look at the copetard.Your post was already radicalized, anti-semite.
>>1237576>if you question a certain country that breaks international law you are an anti-semiteyou may think that by silencing me you are avoiding critique of your actions but i assure you more critics will arise and they will be younger and even harshereliminating your critics isnt the way to improvement or redemption
>>1237577Well, tardo, I wasn't attempting to silence you nor was I arguing with your initial post.I was saying bombing hospitals is pattern of behavior from Israel.Additionally, I'm simply stating the jewish religion's beliefs which you believe makes me a radical.You have no problem when I complain about Christians or Muslims and their religious beliefs though I'd assume.
>>1237578>I wasn't attempting to silence youyou are doing it right now when you radicalize people onlineyou want people to make themselves targets for eliminationi dont think you realize the future you are creating for yourself
>>1237580What the fuck are you talking about?
>>1237580>t. autistic mongoloid
>>1237582It's called "pilpul".Look it up.
Neighborhood dope fiends have more credibility
>>1237624Ahh yes, the /pol/ buzzword of the year for 2015, I know it well
What are the odds the Jews level the hospital once they clear it out? 1000%?
>>1237695It's the only way to deal with the massive tunnel complex beneath it. Going in would be too dangerous.
>>1237695Sure they will, they need to clear out a bunch of infants first tho, I'm fairly certain there are a few toddlers there who are hamas commanders using the other toddlers as human shields
>>1237703Like that time they blew up the media building because it too was a secret Hamas base. No proof of course, but luckily doubt is antisemitic.
>>1237709Don't forget the children's bedroom they claimed was a Hamas outpost that also had a copy of mein kampf just lying on the bed annotated and in pristine condition
>>1237714I know right. Did they put Zoomers are in charge of jewish propaganda these days?
>>1237714>>1237709People actually believe this bs tho.There is an applicable lack of people who think for themselves and would rather blindly trust what the media personalities tell them
>>1237576Do you get paid for repeating whatever the recent national buzzwords are?Or your you so retarded you do it unintentionally for free
>ITT: antisemitism and racismGazans hate you and would bomb the US given the chance, open your eyes
>>1237766You are a joke
>>1237766Gazans wouldn't get the chance and wanting people dead for hating you just makes you a bitch that deserves to be hated.
>>1237781>>1237826>>1237838i guess the way to get white supremacists to be nice to brown people is to get zionists to be threatened by them
>>1237766Thanks for your input, rabbi
>>1237839You don't need to be a white supremacist to recognize that the Israeli "government" is a terrorist organization.
>>1237441Hamas tunnels found under that one hospital.https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html
>>1238033The title of the article is "near" hospital.Look at the pictures. It's outside.
>>1238033Let me know when you find out what these tunnels are used for, because nothing in the article says it's a command and control center, only simply that it's a tunnel nearby the hospital >"We need to demolish the underground facility that we found"...oh, how convenient
>>1238060>>1238062The cope has already started
>>1238068Ah yes, the cope for the tunnels not being found in the hospital at all, but outside somewhere
>>1238062>Hamas didn't bomb their own hospital with a rocket! That was an Israeli strike!>Okay so they did bomb their own hospital. But there weren't hamas terrorists in there!>Okay they have video footage of them taking hostages in there, and the IDF found weapons, grenades, and ammo. But there aren't any tunnels!>Okay they found tunnels, but they didn't find a command center!Can't wait to see what next week's cope is.
>>1238143Nigga, Israel shot the rocket at the hospital, and the tunnels were found outside of the hospital, and have been unused since the 80sYeah they found a few rusty aks, a laptop and a walkie talkie, and they murdered thousands of civilians to recover themIsrael are clearly the bad guys here
>>1238149Wrong, it was a hamas rocket. Secondly it's a hospital complex, it's not just one big building. And thirdly, cope harder lol, just a few measily weapons of war, some grenades, and ammo "whats duh big deal?"
>>1238154See, it's hard to deny the jewish custom of treating every non-jew as lower than them when you makes posts like this.
>>1238154>lol, just a few measily weapons of war, some grenades, and ammo "whats duh big deal?"They came at the cost of like a hundred civilian lives you fascist.Israel literally murdered infants to recover a couple aks, a walki talki, and a laptop.The tunnels they found weren't even in the hospital.. they were outside. This entire siege undertaken by Israel on a civilian hospital was entirely unnecessary
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>>1238167>>1238156Israel didn't recover shit.They threw some aks next to an MRI machine and took a photo so that they could justify their actions to the international community
>>1237574>be minding your own business>suddenly attackedYeah, right.
>>1238154>cope harder lolThat's what you're are doing you knob.
>>1238167Maybe hamas should have thought about that before they slaughtered over 1000 civilians and took 240 hostages.
>>1238167>The tunnels they found weren't even in the hospital.. they were outside. This entire siege undertaken by Israel on a civilian hospital was entirely unnecessaryDo you not understand what a hospital complex is?
>>1238182>Kills a bunch of civilians>We're the real victims here>See there's 4 AK-47s with 8 magazines!!!This is why the jewish peoples must be marginalized for all time.There's a good reason God sent you fuckers to wander in that desert. You need to go back.
>>1238187if you want to convince people that you're not biased regarding israel, try not to say blatantly antisemitic things
>>1238187Yeah if hamas really cared about civilians they wouldn't be using them as human shields.
>>1238189The answer to human shields isn't to kill the human shields.
>>1238183Is the word pathetic the only thing you're going to reply with? I suppose who wouldn't give up after spewing a load of bullshit.
>>1238192Oh well golly you should go join the IDF since you're such a strategic genius!
>>1238193It's all you deserve
>>1238213Or maybe you're tired from doing mental gymnastics to defend a state that clearly commits war crimes.
>>1238184do you? lots of hospital complexes utilize tunnels
>>1238221I'm wondering cause you seem to think that a tunnel in the complex courtyard right next to the hospital building is somehow okay
>>1238236Because they need shelters for when Israel bombs hospitals again.
>>1238292Yeah hamas should stop using hospitals and civilians as shields I agree