https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-should-be-criminally-charged-jan-6-58-americans-poll-2022-6>In an Ipsos/ABC News poll, 58% of respondents said Trump should be criminally charged for the January 6 riot.>Poll respondents said Trump "bears a good or great amount of responsibility for the events of Jan 6.">It comes amid the Jan. 6 House committee's public hearings about its investigation into the Capitol siege. A majority of Americans say that former President Donald Trump should be criminally charged for his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, an Ipsos/ABC News poll finds. Fifty-eight percent of poll respondents "believe that Trump bears a good or great amount of responsibility for the events of Jan 6 and that he should be charged with a crime."The survey comes as the Jan. 6 House committee continues to hold its public hearings about its investigation into the Capitol siege. The percentage favoring criminal charges for the former president has risen since the attack unfolded in January 2021, when 54% of respondents to a January ABC News/Washington Post poll said Trump should be charged with inciting a riot. In an April survey posing a similar question, 52% of respondents said Trump should be charged with a crime. In the committee's third public hearing on Thursday, they detailed the pressure on Vice President Mike Pence to obstruct the electoral count on January 6, Insider's Grace Panetta reported.Greg Jacob, Pence's former chief counsel, and retired Judge J. Michael Luttig testified that they advised Pence as he denied Trump and his attorney's efforts to get him to intervene in the electoral process. Luttig said during the hearing that unduly declaring Trump the winner of the election would have "been tantamount to a revolution within a constitutional crisis in America."
He also warned that Trump and his allies may attempt an election coup in the future and "succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020.""The former president and his allies are executing that blueprint for 2024 in open and plain view of the American public," Luttig said.
>>1060278>majoritynobody cares what a bunch of retards in LA and new york think except retards in LA and new yorkalso>business insiderngmi
>>1060278LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!
>>1060283>nooo you asked the wrong people you were supposed to ask the pee/pol/ and confirm MY beliefs. ahhhhhhh reality is shattering!
>>1060289lol wtf are you talking about? polling always favors democrats because they poll primarily in LA and NYC. that's why they always favor democrats and why they're always wrong.
>>1060290haha, this retarddon't you need to create another 'Biden polling low' thread so you can pretend the opposite over there?
>>1060293Not him, but even most of the "Biden polling low" polls show a democrat-heavy sample, and he's still polling low despite this sample bias
>>1060290i know you read this about the poll:>The data were weighted to adjust for gender by age, race/ethnicity, education, Census region, metropolitan status, household income, and party identification. but you just typed:>nooo you asked the wrong people you were supposed to ask the pee/pol/ and confirm MY beliefs. ahhhhhhh reality is shattering!for the second time. why?
>>1060295Libtards aren't people, so this is 60% of Conservatives saying Trump needs to be locked upRAND PAUL 2024
>>1060293if you actually went outside and had friends, you would realize that the synthetic fantasyland you see on TV is not the irl reality
>>1060297I would be ok with locking trump up so long as it also meant a tribunal for bush, obama, biden, and every living person in congress that have supported the expansion of the administrative state and international war crimes
>>1060301Don't threaten me with a good time
>>1060301>Locking up every conservative in the government including the supreme court, and leaving the government to Bernie and AOCSounds like a Bargain.
>>1060305Bernie and AOC are both establishment shills guilty of expanding the administrative state. maybe stop believing retarded faggots like hasan piker and agent kochinski
>>1060301IRK?I'm fine throwing Trump in jail, so long as Biden, Pelosi, Clinton, all the others who supported BLM violence and the rest of their ilk get jail time for all of their crimes. No more of this special treatment for the elite. Fuck em all. No special treatment for any party. Jail time for all the law violators and violence instigators. Then we'd back away from the civil war we keep teetering towards.
>>1060305Nope, jail time for both of those fuckers too.Sanders is a Russian asset and AOC pushed for BLM violence. Jail time for both.
>we lost the poll so lets shit the thread up
>>1060326you can post this as many times as you want, samefag. astroturfing is all you retards can do to pretend a consensus exists where there isn't any. it's literal delusion driven by your cultish mental illness.
>>1060309>>1060323Nope, they get to run a better America, should have worded your deal better.
>>1060331you should look into their voting records before embarrassing yourself any further, kiddo
>>1060309“The administrative state” you mean social programs that help the worse off among us, then yes.If you are concerned about the “administrative state” you must really be upset with the Republicans for their stealing of peoples rights with their Abortion attacks, and you must really hate all the anti-book shit conservatives are doing in schools. All the anti-CRT bullshit must make you really mad, right? All those things are crazy government control over people. You must hate conservatives for all their attempts at expanding government control of citizens. Otherwise you would just be a stupid fucking hypocrite, that ain’t you, right buddy?
>>1060339lol baby's first politic. here, I'll take it slow for you, little man>“The administrative state” you mean social programs that help the worse off among us, then yes.the administrative state is that which drives policy but is held to no account by the voter. it is corrupt, persistent across administrations, and is the antithesis of the democratic process>you must really be upset with the Republicans for their stealing of peoples rights with their Abortion attacksyes, I hate the federal government and think the states should decide for themselves what laws to enforce based on the will of the people who vote for what they want. you want to compel mask usage in your shithole state? fine, go vote for it.>you must really hate all the anti-book shit conservatives are doing in schoolsschools are federal institutions, not private institutions. it's the one place where the government does have reach when it comes to censorship relative to cultural norms. if you don't like it, you must be an advocate for school choice in which the school is out of the reach of the federal govt completely. I would agree with that.>All the anti-CRT bullshit must make you really mad, right? anti-CRT is anti-fascism. I don't believe in the enforcement of race-based discrimination and I don't believe the white supremacist doctrine espoused by CRT advocates that claims everyone but white people are too stupid to live up the standards of western values>You must hate conservatives for all their attempts at expanding government control of citizensthe less power the federal government has and the more power the people have through the democratic process at the state level, the better. Ideally, there'd be no federal government at all and people like AOC and Ted Cruz would both be out of jobs. But baby steps.
If not because of couruption, the because of tax evasion
>>1060299You watch Tucker Carlson and said this, LOL. Typical Republican hypocrite
>>1060278>democrats wins elections by planting overnight votes in swing states>proceed to arrest their opposition's presidenceI encourage it. Your country is already lost, all you'd do with arresting Trump is accelerating its collapse.
>>1060278Always get a chuckle out of /news/ posts. You faggot plebbitors couldn't sell your nonsense on other boards so you went to the one board where literally no one posts. LMAO.Go back to your echo chamber.>>>/plebbit/
>>1060402I saw a post once that said all the boomers that used to argue with each other in the comments section of local news sites migrated here after those sites took the comments sections awayI think that's incredibly plausible. most people on this board are insufferable old normalfags
u guys not cool nuff 2 hang here get off my lawn normies reeeeeee imma stuff you inna locka LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UPalso im not looking to create my own echo chamber by gatekeeping this board.... YOURE the echo chamber loving faggots *sniffle* *sob* *cry*
>>1060338Art of the deal
>>1060403I suppose you think /pol/ isn't completely populated by boomer normalfags.
>>1060413>defeat fascist authoritarianism by voting in support of fascist authoritarianismcome back when you're ready to end the fed, bootlicker
>>1060417Every other board on 4chan knows the userbase on /pol/ was replaced by /r/the_Donald boomers from reddit in 2016. You people don't even know what site you're posting on. Compared to most traditional 4chan boards from >>>/a/ to >>>/d/ to >>>/y/ the users of /pol/ are archetypal normalfags.
>>1060419lmao you sound like a millennial that is starting to realize how old and out of touch you are
>>1060278>Fifty-eight percent of poll respondents "believe that Trump bears a good or great amount of responsibility for the events of Jan 6 and that he should be charged with a crime."Cool yeah. Trump told them to be there, after all. So, yeah.
>>1060414/pol/ is full of shills and bots.
>>1060338Only because the corrupt Republicans and conservatives who run the democratic party have blocked any pro-worker legislation. Get rid of those first and also implement much needed judicial reform to fix the problems.
>>1060430you what will fix the government getting involved in the market and causing extreme wealth disparity? the government getting more involved in the market and causing even more extreme wealth disparity.you authoritarian retards keep demanding the government to save you by creating more laws when they're the ones responsible for fucking everything up in the first place with their stupid fucking laws
>>1060439>My perfect form of free market has not been tried yetJust as terrible as the commies, only you're still doubling down and shitting up the country.
>>1060440the US has been a confluence of fascism and communism since 1913. you're just a moron that doesn't know shit about history nor economics
>>1060439>>1060440>>1060443Honestly I don't think pure communism, socialism or free market capitalism is a good answer.Pure ideologies are generally destructive in any form.Ideally, a system should draw from the strengths of several market paradigms to overcome the weaknesses of other market paradigms
>>1060443Just accept that the free market is a failure and Republicans have proven that time and again with their trickle down economic polices.
>>1060445>pure ideologieseconomics in the austrian school of thought isn't ideology, it's the reality of supply and demandfree market systems are inconvenient to politicians because its the only thing that keeps them from having an open checkbook, which means they have to resort to politically inexpedient measures like raising taxes
>>1060446you don't know what you're talking about, evidenced by the fact that you see everything through the lens of fucking democrat and republican. you are a boomer retard and I'm looking forward to all of you dying off completely
>>1060450Not an argument redditor.
>>1060451argument for what? the fact that neither democrats or republicans can't fix keyensian fascio-communism without abolishing the federal reserve that prints them endless cash to bomb children and take 10% off the top of the profits? you are useless, boomer. and I take joy in knowing how scared you are. you should be scared, because you're a fucking loser and we are coming for your entitlements.
>>1060453>Now resorting to random buzzwordsFree market has always been a failure and just a means for feeding money to the rich as proven by 40 years of conservative economic polices. You stamping your feet and demanding we triple down on the failed ideology of the free market doesn't change that.
>>1060454>impotent rageyou aren't actually saying anything. you're just crying about republican-bad. ok, republican bad. now what, you old retarded fuck?
>>1060346>white supremacist doctrine espoused by CRT advocates that claims everyone but white people are too stupid to live up the standards of western valuesExcept, no, it doesn't claim that. I think you might be projecting here, anon.
>>1060492>wealth and education is a standard of whiteness>unattainable to most black and brown peopleholy shit
>>1060456All you've said is.>My perfect form of free market has not been tried yetAnd it just shows you're a shill for the billionaires.
>>1060518>shilling for billionairesthe richest people in the world are the people who run the corporate media that gave you TDS through their government-sanctioned monopoly
>>1060521The Corporate Media is stilling for Trump and Republicans for 'access'.If they weren't biased they used the term 'steal' instead of 'overturn' for Trump's attempts to steal the election. So break up all the big media companies like Sinclair and return their stations to local ownership.Same with newspapers where vulture capitalism should be outlawed.
>>1060536>Sinclair is a threatIgnoring Comcast and all the others?It's Sinclair that's the problem, despite being no where near as big an entangled with the government and government contracts.Nice try.
>>1060540>Whatabout...Call me when they do what Sinclair did.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSoAlso, we should nationalize the telecom, energy and health care system, for starters. So if you're going to want to break up things, don't just stick to the groups in a system you've been programmed to hate, go for the entire system.
>>1060545They don't have to do that. They are national. Duh.
>>1060545>Also, we should nationalize the telecom, energy and health care systemNo. Die commie. I already don't trust the government with anything, but you want to give them everything. Are you retarded and crazy?
>>1060546So they don't force local news groups to read their political talking points like Sinclair does?
>>1060547>nationalizing infrastructure built by taxpayer investment is communism now
>>1060550Remove the subsidies for this shit. People have been saying this for decades but the subsidies and government contracts keep rolling in.The same would work for fixing healthcare.
>>1060293He right, you knob.
>>1060564No he isn't you moron.
>>1060559Nah, we should just nationalize the system and make them all non profit. Also add the death penalty to anyone who tries to embezzle money from the new government run companies to crack down on corruption. An even better idea is a public execution through blood letting so all their organs can be harvested and given to those in need. And no religious exemption.
>>1060576They're already nationalized.
>>1060601lol yes. They're just not nationalized in the commie way you think would be beneficial.
>>1060604Stop making shit up.
>>1060606I'm not. Quit being oblivious to shit.
>>1060619Fine then, don't notice. I don't care.
>>1060621>Doesn't care that he's lyingThis is why you're the bad guys.
>>1060624I'm not lying just because of your lack of knowledge.Try something else. This isn't working.Captcha: HRDPP
>>1060628Nah, you're lying and you can't back up your claims.
>>1060629No. You're just a retard.
>>1060632Nah, you're just lying still.
>>1060635If I were lying you would've been able to prove me wrong easily.I'll take your lack of an attempt at a counter argument as my win. Thanks.
>>1060283oh nooooo ur fellow psychopath is being targeted quick shill for him!!! retard retard retard retard
>>1060301No, just Trump.
>>1060278Lying wont change reality, trump actually got more popular since the hearings began lol stupid democrat lies, propaganda and circus backfired on themFact every single democrat should be looked up or shoot for treason for their election rigging/destruction of democracy, support of anarchists taking over with chaz and for their support and bailing out of blm rioters and murderers.
>>1060672Does Trump pay you to simp for him or do you get a free MAGA hat out of it?
>>1060673dont care, didnt ask plus you are a big business democrat bootlicking brainwashed useful idiot
>>1060673>Thinking Trump would even give them a hat
777 lock him up
>>1060777It's finally over.
>>1060777Can't argue with lucky number 7s.
>>1060672Trumpists squirming desperately.
>>1060278Bullshit. The majority of Americans didn't partake in this poll. The only ones that did are the type of people that still gobble up everything MSM tells them. Definition of bias.
>>1060813don't you have a flat earth society meeting to be at
>>1060813Fuck your feelings.
>>1060278I'll be waiting for Colbert to face the exact same music for attempting the EXACT same "coup" that Trump allegedly attempted. Of course we all know that won't happen, his team has already been let go in an outstanding display of hypocrisy. Don't you know you are supposed to hold insurrectionists for 12 mo without charges and bail? Fortunately, Colbert showed the world how big of a fucking joke this Jan 6 shit is. Plus if Democrats can get away scott free with inciting all the BLM/Antifa riots, only a bribed judge and loaded court can convict Trump.
>>1060855When did you first become a simp for a corrupt billionaire?
>>1060855Fuck off Cucker
Eastman is the only one fucking retarded enough to put his crime in writing
>>1060898He used a university e-mail to ask Trump for a pardon too. We might as well burn the constitution if Trump is able to get away with this. Which is a good possibility.
>>1060278>Failed Trump CoupHow do you get charged for something that didn't happen. Taking selfies and trespassing is what it is. In order to have a coup there has to be an organized attempt to have one. In other words 'A Plan' and there was no plan or attempt.
>>1060902There is literally an entire televised trial going on right now showing that there was, in fact, a plan.
>>1060907>an entire televised trialA trial? I think you mean the side show distraction for those dumb enough to fall for it.
>>1060907>trialLast I checked, trials don't involve teleprompters
>>1060907Are you talking about the DNC political ad currently running on the networks that's being paid for by taxpayer dollars and starring a mix of Democrats and Never-Trumpers? Because that's not a trial. If it were a trial, it would have been dismissed with prejudice shortly after the doctored videos were played.
>>1060921>>1060910>>1060917>No no the videos are fake>The testimonies from Trump's former allies are lies>The recordings were taken out of context>The messages aren't real>The trial isn't actually going to convictYeah yeah keep coping.
>>1060928It's not a trial anon, it's not even a grand jury. It's a "hearing"Also,>teleprompters
>>1060930So? Doesn't mean any of the evidence they're finding is fake.
>>1060932>not fake>literally reading from a scriptAnon...
>>1060934Do you have anything to disprove the testimonies? The video tapes of 1/6? The found messages between Trump, his cohorts, and the Proud Boy leaders? The calls Trump made to state officials where he literally asks them to accept an alternate group of electors?
>>1060902Last I checked, the violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power to install an unelected official as head of state and betray the constitution is a coup no matter how much your want to cope about it.
>>1060339>you must be 18 to post here>you must NOT be a MSNBC NPC to post here as wellliteral talking points going back years that have no basis in truth whatsoever. so easy to point out the kids, headline readers and NPCs. You're parents still fucking other people behind each other's back? hmm?>YWNBAW
>>1060940>>1060954>muh scriptBe sure to keep practicing your outrage anon, one of these days it'll be believable. Maybe.
>>1060954While it's bad there was violence at the capital there was no coup attempt or even a thought of it. They were there to show they are unhappy with a corrupt govt. And they know many underhanded things went down for O'Biden to win. Lets see your smug shitty grin after democrats get shit on next Nov.
>>1060287>>1060289>>1060293>>1060301>>1060321>>1060390>>1060414Shut up libtard commie jews. Trump won and the WEF shadow cabal will have their heads on a pike
>>1061022>there was no coup attemptExcept for the coup Trump staged.
>>1060967Now THIS is cope
>>1061024Trump fucked little girls while Epstein watched btw
>>1060993So you have nothing and are just trying to downplay 1/6. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>1061108Record high gas.Record high inflation.Growing border crisis.Rising drug addiction and fentanyl crisis.Rising suicide rate.Rising homelessness.And you're obsessed with the orange fatass and a faux insurrection that happened two years ago.You were born a loser. You will die a loser. Leftcels don't care about the working class.
>>1061105And then murdered Epstein too.
This was decent bait
>>1061166Saying it wasn't a coup is not even bait, it's just lazy denial of reality.
>>1060278>Majority of Americans say Trump should be criminallyLol where? I live in NJ and not even blacks say this. You upper middle class liberals need to get out your parents house and have sex.You are not the "workers of the world"
>>1060278Thankfully opinion polls don’t dictate whether or not people did anything wrong: just ask Rittenhouse.You WILL waste millions.You WILL cry.You WILL put it on tv.You WILL seethe when people don’t tune in.You WILL whine when people care more about gas.You WILL lose the midterms horribly.And then you WILL cope.
>>1061215This is a lot of cope, please proceed.
>>1061215Rittenhouse actually had a valid self defense claim, even though I still think his reasons for being there were retarded.What exactly is Trump's defense here?
>>1061340>What exactly is Trump's defense here?That would obviously depend on what the actual charge is. Since none has been brought, it's a bit difficult to say what the defense against it would be.
>they're this terrified of Trump running for president againlol it's really not going very well, is it?
>>1060301>>1060321not gonna happen. the only reason they're making such a big stink out of a few trash cans getting knocked over is that they're absolutely terrified of trump winning again in 2024. it's either they get him locked up by grossly exagerating the hicks going on an unguided tour or both parties are going to be his bitch because of his bizarre cult of personality. i, too, though, wish for a dream world where we just hang corrupt politicians regardless of timing or affiliation.
>>1061398This is what Trump cultists tell themselves so they can sleep at night.
>>1061400never voted in my life and never will because both of your sports teams are made up of cultists that will doom our civilization, but nice try.
>>1061433That's a retarded take. Most voting is for local candidates and issues that aren't politically partisan.
>>1061380Regardless what the charge is, Trump's defense is going to be he's such a pathological lair that he didn't know it was illegal, and because he's part of the rich, that might actually get him off the hook.However, the Jan 6th panel has been going through painstaking steps to prove Trump was told by multiple people his plans to steal the election through fake electors was illegal to shut down this defense he'd use.
>>1061433Anon, you should at least vote on local elections. The presidential election is only one of many and is probably the least important one since we've seen that the popular vote is mostly irrelevant. Don't let that dissuade you from voting on local ordinances, offices, etc. If you want to change our system, start voting for state politicians that want voting reform (ranked choice, etc). It's already happened in at least one stage, so the precedent exists. If you don't have anyone running with reform in mind, then you could run. Any retard can run and win, just look at our elections here in GA (MTG, Herschel Walker, Kemp, etc)
>>1061447>However, the Jan 6th panel has been reading from scripts on telepromptersFTFYHearings in the Soviet union were more honest than this sad excuse for bread and circus
>>1061458>Reading Fox 'news' damage control.I see you're going to be arguing in bad faith.
>>1061469>muh FoxAnon, they're reading off of teleprompters. You can see them doing it live on TV. It's scripted.
>>1061473Don’t ruin his telenovela for him.
>>1061473>>1061486Again anon, is any of the information being shown untrue?
>>1061608I haven’t watched it. Is AOC still pretending she was gonna get raped?
>>1061614>I haven’t watched it.And there you go. Maybe if you actually saw what was being presented you'd realize "Oh shit, this was actually an attempted insurrection".
>>1061627Why would I willingly watch propaganda? I’m more concerned about real world issues, like Biden’s gas prices.
>>1061631>the health of the democratic government you live in daily is not important compared to run of the mill price gouging which is completely outside the control of the President the Republic is doomed
>>1061631>i dun care bout da crimes i care bout muh trux
>>1061631caring about gas companies getting record profits during times of abnormally high gas prices, apparently not important I want to become as stupid and carefree as you seem to be. What items under my sink should I huff to get that retarded?
>>1061730>>1061754>>1061756Sorry, shills, but Biden openly admitted the gas prices were a result of his policy yesterday. >>1061315
>>1061774>We should've just kept funding Russia's illegal invasion and human rights violations
>>1061774Not him, but what does this have to do with Trump's failed coup attempt and the fact you're doing everything to deflect from it?
>>1061774you typed:>i dun care bout da crimes i care bout muh truxagain
>>1061775Goalpost. Concession accepted.>>1061776I’m not sure why you consider it a deflection to point out that Americans care more about Biden’s policy failures than a nonexistent coup attempt. This is a song and dance meant to distract from the disastrous Biden regime and it just isn’t working. No one cares.
>>1061776Because his argument is "Biden bad so Trump trying to illegally disqualify the election he lost good, and good means not breakin the law."
>>1061779Thank you for acknowledging Biden has increased gas prices via his policy. Please pass this knowledge onto your fellow shills.
>>1061780The blame for higher gas prices is on Putin for declaring war and committing war crimes. What about that was Biden's fault?
>>1061780I'll ask again, what does this have to do with Trump's failed coup attempt and the fact you're doing everything to deflect from it?
>>1061784The blame for higher gas prices is on Biden for stopping Russian imports. He said it himself. Is Biden so senile he doesn’t understand his own policy, or are you just lying?>>1061785I’ll ask again, why do you consider it a deflection to point out that people are more concerned with real world issues, like Biden policy making gas more expensive?
>>1061781>>1061784>>1061785Hes just arguing in bad faith anons. He is just using gas prices to deflect from the reality that Trump lost, and tried to inspire a coup to stay in power
>>1061788Cope. Biden increased gas prices per his own admission.
>>1061789your deflection is coping lmaooo
>>1061794Kek, Bidenites always get assblasted when they lose the gas argument. See you in November.
>>1061789Did Donald Trump incite an insurrection? If your answer is yes, what do gas prices have to do with it then?
>>1061789And this has what to do with Trump's crimes?This is like arguing the police shouldn't investigate a robbery because there's been a murder.
Trump is an American traitor. Most Republicans in Congress are white supremacists, ignorant jackasses, and Trump kiss asses.
>>1061795Why do you keep talking about Biden as if he is President?
>>1061879White Supremacist US President Thomas Jefferson built US Navy to bomb Tripoli to end the enslavement of White Supremacists by the Islamic States. English and French white supremacists invaded colonized other places to abolish slavery of whites and blacks. Before White Supremacy, the Antiracist Caliph of Baghdad OWNED 4000 CASTRATED White Supremacists and 3000 black eunuchs. And similar White Supremacist President Trump bombed the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, also to free the enslaved white Yazidi sex slaves. Trump deprived thousands of Islamic POCs of their white slaves. If there never was any white supremacists, then holy Antiracist Islamic slavery would still be practiced, on a global scale! Islam, holy Antiracist Islamic slavery, is the only form of government that is proven to make blacks equal to whites. This is why we must end white supremacy (and white supremacists like Trump) so that abolition of holy Antiracist Islamic slavery can be reversed. Demographic data in Europe shows that in 50 years, Islamic states will form in former white supremacists homelands?, and have all the NATO weapons. so. It is Only a matter of time before US Kufr infidels like you will face Islamic Justice.
>>1061894Good point. He's no more than a puppet
>>1061787I'll ask again, what does this have to do with Trump's failed coup attempt and the fact you're doing everything to deflect from it?
>>1061879This, the fact they personally hate Trump but will still publicly support them make them vichy france, to Trump's nazi germany.