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WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection and Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election opened Thursday’s prime-time hearing declaring the lies that led to the deadly attack put “two and half centuries of constitutional democracy at risk.”

Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said “the world is watching” the U.S. response to the panel’s yearlong investigation into the Capitol riot and the defeated president’s extraordinary effort to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s election victory.

“America has long been expected to be a shining city on a hill. A beacon of hope and freedom,” Thompson said. “How can we play that role when our own house is in such disorder? We must confront the truth with candor, resolve and determination.”

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The committee was presenting never-before-seen video and a mass of other evidence, aiming to show the “harrowing story” of the deadly violence that day and also a chilling backstory as Trump, the defeated president, tried to overturn Biden’s election victory.

Thursday night’s hearing was providing eyewitness testimony from the first police officer pummeled in the mob riot and from a documentary filmmaker who tracked the extremist Proud Boys as they prepared to fight for Trump immediately after the election and then led the storming of the Capitol.

The hearing also featured accounts from Trump aides and family members, interviewed behind closed doors.

“When you hear and understand the wide-reaching conspiracy and the effort to try to corrupt every lever and agency of government involved in this, you know, the hair on the back of your neck should stand up,” Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., a member of the 1/6 committee, said in a pre-hearing interview.
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The 1/6 panel’s findings aim to show that America’s tradition of a peaceful transfer of presidential power came close to slipping away. They reconstruct how Trump refused to concede the 2020 election, spread false claims of voter fraud and orchestrated an unprecedented public and private campaign to overturn Biden’s victory.

Biden, in Los Angeles for the Summit of the Americas, said many viewers were “going to be seeing for the first time a lot of the detail that occurred.”

“I think it was a clear, flagrant violation of the Constitution,” he said.

Trump, unapologetic, dismissed the investigation anew — and even declared on social media that Jan. 6 “represented the greatest movement in the history of our country.”

The result of the coming weeks of public hearings may not change hearts or minds in politically polarized America. But the committee’s investigation with 1,000 interviews is intended to stand as a public record for history. A final report aims to provide an accounting of the most violent attack on the Capitol since the British set fire to it in 1814, and to ensure such an attack never happens again.

The riot left more than 100 police officers injured, many beaten and bloodied, as the crowd of pro-Trump rioters, some armed with pipes, bats and bear spray, charged into the Capitol. At least nine people who were there died during and after the rioting, including a woman who was shot and killed by police.

Emotions are still raw at the Capitol, and security will be tight for the hearings. Law enforcement officials are reporting a spike in violent threats against members of Congress.

Against this backdrop, the committee is speaking to a divided America, ahead of the fall midterm elections when voters decide which party controls Congress. Most TV networks were carrying the hearing live, but Fox News Channel was not.
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The committee chairman, civil rights leader Thompson, and vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, outlined what the committee has learned about the events leading up to that brisk January day when Trump sent his supporters to Congress to “fight like hell” for his presidency as lawmakers undertook the typically routine job of certifying the previous November’s results.

One witness scheduled Thursday was documentary maker Nick Quested, who filmed the Proud Boys storming the Capitol — along with a pivotal meeting between the group’s then-chairman Henry “Enrique” Tarrio and another extremist group, the Oath Keepers, the night before in nearby parking garage.

Court documents show that members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were discussing as early as November a need to fight to keep Trump in office. Leaders both groups and some members have since been indicted on rare sedition charges over the military-style attack.

Information from Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, who urged her father to call off the rioters, was likely to be shared from her private appearance before the committee.

In the weeks ahead, the panel is expected to detail Trump’s public campaign to “Stop the Steal” and the private pressure he put on the Justice Department to reverse his election loss — despite dozens of failed court cases and his own attorney general attesting there was no fraud on a scale that could have tipped the results in his favor.

The panel faced obstacles from its start. Republicans blocked the formation of an independent body that could have investigated the Jan. 6 assault the way the 9/11 Commission probed the 2001 terror attack.
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Instead, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ushered the creation of the 1/6 panel through Congress over the objections of Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. She rejected Republican-appointed lawmakers who had voted on Jan. 6 against certifying the election results, eventually naming seven Democrats and two Republicans.

House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy, who has been caught up in the probe and has defied the committee’s subpoena for an interview, echoed Trump on Thursday. He called the panel a “scam” and labeled the investigation a political “smokescreen” for Democrats’ priorities.

The hearings are expected to introduce Americans to a cast of characters, some well known, others elusive, and to what they said and did as Trump and his allies tried to reverse the election outcome.

The public will learn about the actions of Mark Meadows, the president’s chief of staff, whose 2,000-plus text messages provided the committee with a snapshot of the real-time scramble to keep Trump in office. Of John Eastman, the conservative law professor who was the architect of the unsuccessful scheme to persuade Vice President Mike Pence to halt the certification on Jan. 6. Of the Justice Department officials who threatened to resign rather than go along with Trump’s proposals.

The Justice Department has arrested and charged more than 800 people for the violence that day, the biggest dragnet in its history.
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>>1056014
It was because of the riots. And to remind those geriatric out of touch retards that there are people who can still reach them so they need to do their fucking jobs.
I'm not surprised we are where we are as a society and country when this is the spin on that. Co-opted by some tacticool jackasses, most likely orchestrated by some alphabet. Amazing.
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>>1056034
Conservatives trying to gaslight the purpose of the riot that day is cute. It was because people were upset Trump lost and because they were fed lies by conservative politicians and media that the election was stolen. It's pretty simple. Conservatives should own up to their mistakes, but we all know they're not emotionally or mentally mature enough to do so.
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>>1056042
No.
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>Tune in
>It's them whining about white people
>AND WHITE PEOPLE ORGANIZED
>AND WHITE PEOPLE WERE
>WALKING
>AND THROWING CONES
>and were let in by law enforcement don't mention that

>AND A BROKEN WINDOW, WHITE PEOPLE, BREAKING WINDOWS
>WHITE
>PEOPLE
Wow I can't believe white people exist. Hey Dems, why are you poised to get fucked in the midterms again? It's not because you keep doing this every time the ball is in your court instead of making something resembling a valid point besides "I hate all white people kill white people don't let them organize that's white people terrorism."
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>>1056042
>Conservatives trying to gaslight the purpose of the riot that day is cute.
You can't convict people on the voices in your head or what shit you've been filled to the brim with to believe they were 'going' to do, that's why almost all of them are being held without any charges applied. You're not a fucking mindreader and this "hearing" is just proving that you don't have any real proof they were intending to do anything other than be white and loud someplace where democrats could hear them. Fuck you and your disdain for literally everyone who isn't a insider-trading millionaire.
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>>1056034
>It was because of the riots
The ones that lasted a whole summer?
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>>1056042
>Conservatives trying to gaslight the purpose of the riot that day is cute. It was because people were upset Trump lost and because they were fed lies by conservative politicians and media that the election was stolen. It's pretty simple.
Even assuming any of this is true, none of that is an actionable offense and shouldn't be.
All this has proven is that Dems are mortally terrified that they don't control the narrative and feel they should be able to arrest dissidents without charges like it's Maoist China. And shitbrains like you and breadtube are fine with them getting away with it because "at least they're on my side".
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>>1056049
The problem is the right wing propaganda machine feeding them lies.
The fact that Fox 'news' is acting as counter programing to the panel is all you need to know.
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>>1056052
Yeah the people shouting "Hang Mike Pence" and searching for politicians just wanted to "talk to them."
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>>1056014
Thanks for posting, forgot about this
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just calling it a failed coup is disinformation
this whole event is crybabies pissing and shitting themselves because they couldn't even impeach Trump over it
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>>1056087
Cope. Seethe. Repeat.
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>>1056088
the whole world is watching the committee cope and seethe live on air
imagine being proud of destroying your own careers lol
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>>1056094
>the whole world is watching the committee cope and seethe live on air
I can guarantee you the committee is nowhere near as perpetually assmad as you /pol/lacks.
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>>1056097
there is nothing more cope and seethe than throwing a worthless hail mary tier tantrum over people walking into the capitol
you couldn't impeach trump, and this committee is going to see how stupid they are in november
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>>1056104
>walking into
Yeah, sure. That's totally what happened. They just gently and politely walked into the capitol.
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>>1056104
>there is nothing more cope and seethe than throwing a worthless hail mary tier tantrum
Just wait until the Hunter Biden hearings begin after the midterms. That will be a real tantrum over Trump losing.
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>>1056111
>implying they didn't
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>>1056104
>people walking into the capitol
I think the most amazing part of this whole ordeal is the lengths you people go to in order to gaslight people into somehow believing that the videos of people smashing windows, beating and macing police officers and kicking down doors isn't real. You know we have the internet and know you're lying, right? We can all see with our eyeballs that they didn't just "walk into the capital". The videos are publicly available. I have a hard time believing whether or not you actually think what you're saying is true. Or maybe you think that if you just repeat this bullshit line over and over that people will eventually forget what actually happened and accept your alternate version.
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>>1056117
>a zillion CNN cameras focusing on 3 people breaking a window
vs
>grandmas and other randos walking in between velvet ropes
by the way, broken windows and feet on Pelosi's desk doesn't mean you can just shit and piss yourself and be taken seriously
you are the one gaslighting, yes the videos are available and yes people walked in
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>>1056075
Yeah they were really searching for politicians alright, as slowly as possible. Maybe they wanted to take another dozen selfies with them.
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>>1056117
>into the capitol
I think the most amazing part of this whole ordeal is the lengths you people go to in order to gaslight people
This is the same argument the republicans used when the democrats downplayed the blm "pacific manifestarions".
Literally zero original toughts.
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>>1056120
Yeah, again, we all have eyeballs. We all saw the cellphone footage of what happened. I have no idea why you think you can convince people what they all saw didn't happen.

>>1056122
>This is the same argument the republicans used when the democrats downplayed the blm "pacific manifestarions".
How did I know you were going to pivot to BLM. Classic whataboutism.

>Literally zero original toughts.
You can't engage with a single thing I said.
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>>1056124
>I have no idea why you think you can convince people what they all saw didn't happen.
you'll notice I never said no one broke windows, yet you're claiming no one just walked in
who is being disingenuous here? who's gaslighting?
you clowns are liars by omission and no one is fooled by this shit or the committee

if they were, you would have had Trump by now, and you don't
weird how that works

all these criminals can do is put blame on random people and make tiny victories on technicalities that change fucking nothing other than to make more people pissed off at them
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>>1056128
>yet you're claiming no one just walked in
You don't just "walk into" a capitol building uninvited. You trying to downplay the context of the situation and just boiling everything down to the physical actions taken by people involved is what's disingenuous. It's like saying a couple of gang members who were involved in a killing don't deserve jail time because they just stood around and watched it happened instead actively committing violence. That's not how this shit works.
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>>1056133
>muh context
1 you're still trying to say something with video evidence didn't happen
and
2 your "context" is a baseless assertion that the rioters were trying to kill people, because that is literally the only thing you can say to justify shooting one of the protestors
the only person who died on the scene
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>>1056137
>2 your "context" is a baseless assertion that the rioters were trying to kill people
What "baseless assertion"? People were literally yelling "Hang Mike Pence!" and pipe bombs were sent to the RNC and DNC buildings. You're so full of shit.
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>>1056128
>yet you're claiming no one just walked in
Wrong. Read back the posts. The initial claim was that people where hysterical and throwing tantrums over people "just walking into the capitol". You and I both know that's dishonest as fuck. Clearly, the people breaking into the building, assaulting police officers and kicking office doors down in the capitol building are what people are focused on, not the people who were just walking around.

>who is being disingenuous here? who's gaslighting?
You. 100%. Its the only tool you have when trying to downplay what happened.

>>1056137
>you're still trying to say something with video evidence didn't happen
Honest question - do you actually think that anybody in this thread is making the claim that not a single person walked into the capitol building? More importantly, is that what you think the conversation is about? The people who walked in and not the people rioting? I'm genuinely curious if you're this retarded or you're just being purposefully obtuse.
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>>1056034
>>1056045
>>1056049
Fucking cope faggots AHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1056087
Except it was a coup and all you've done is project.
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>>1056140
>The initial claim was that people where hysterical and throwing tantrums over people "just walking into the capitol"
well, they are
if the event was so serious why did this even happen?
again, focusing only on some thugs breaking windows is making you look like fools
>trying to downplay what happened.
and you're trying to play up the event by omitting key facts

>do you actually think that anybody in this thread is making the claim that not a single person walked into the capitol building?
"You don't just walk in" is pretty clear

>>1056138
>People were literally yelling "Hang Mike Pence!"
I bet you believe they were actually going to do it on that flimsy prop gallows, too
>and pipe bombs were sent to the RNC and DNC buildings.
not sure bombs placed the night before had anything to do with the riot, and they still don't even know who did it
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>>1056014
Jan 6th wasn't a riot, feds groom mass shooters, the so called vax is the elites cattle herding sterilizer and I hate lefty libtard commies
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>>1056178
Get help
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>>1056177
I'd like proof of your claims since the Jan 6th committee is showing footage, especially of domestic terrorists groups like the Proud boys and oath Keepers looking extremely organized in their attack on the capitol.
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Cops lives matter! Protect the Police! then you fucking conservatives try to kill police as you invade the capitol building... Everyone knows this happened we have video. The craziest is you willful ignorant idiots who scream about " the cops let us in!" No man, you attacked the police and beat them with Trump flags on video.
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>>1056264
inb4 boomers call you brainwashed and blame corporate media
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>>1056264
Only person who died was a protester killed by a cop.
Cope and seethe moar though faggot, it's funny.
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>>1056269
Insurrectionists are not protesters
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>>1056269
u white, she dindu nuffin
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old news, it happened over a year ago
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>>1056275
the hearings happened 12 hours ago
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>>1056269
“We didn’t even get to kill a cop!!!!!” Fucking cope more hate monger.
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>>1056014
Ah yes, bread and circus for the 65+ voting block
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>>1056319
Ah yes, the self-hating boomer returns.
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>>1056049
>See some guy walk up to a house with a gas can
>See him pull out a layout of the house
>Watch him pour gasoline all around the exterior of the house, then go inside and pour some more out
>Pours a trail leading about 30 feet away and pulls out a lighter
>Call the cops on him, they arrest him for attempted arson
>"Wtf you can't be a mind reader, you didn't know for sure I was gonna burn the house down!! This is some CIA op to frame me!!!!"

That's what you sound like right now, and your deflections won't change that
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>>1056014
>ITS A FRIGGIN ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!1!!!
shouldn't have changed voting laws to make ballots unverifiable.. was really odd when tens of thousands of ballots shows up at 4am vast exclusively for Joe Biden in key districts because of these new laws
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>>1056371
>REEEEE YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THE TV REEEEEE

>>1056372
Baseless analogy is baseless, cope seethe and dilate
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>>1056045
Did they say any of that, or are you angry that they showed white people being nearly as violent as black people were all summer? The right word is traitor btw, not terrorist
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>>1056374
>idiot still going on about ballot stuff.
Its almost like a group of disingenuous lawmakers put in restrictions about not counting mail in ballots until voting was over to manufacture this talking point
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>>1056397
you can count the number of black people tearing up kenosha on one hand. most BLM protesters last summer were white, affluent progressives
it's your TV that made it seem like most of the damage was being caused by blacks, and they used it as justification. as in "well could you blame them?"
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>>1056399
so the lawmakers are """disingenuous""" after they've changed the laws to make election interference easier, not before? several of those law changes were deemed unconstitutional after the fact, btw
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>>1056269
>only person who died was a traitor killed by a cop
Ftfy
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>>1056402
Remember when trump's appointee to the USPS scrapped tens of thousands of mail sorters a few months month before the election? After he knew that he would be losing on the mail in ballot count? I remember

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/20/postal-service-mail-sorters-removals/
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>>1056404
yeah! pigs only kill traitors!
>*slurps boot*
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>>1056400
>you can count the number of black people tearing up Kenosha on one hand
You got some big fuckin hands, anon. I will give you that it's pretty telling that, in the Rittenhouse case; all those guys were white
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>>1056406
quite a conspiracy theory you've got there
maybe not doing unconstitutional unverified universal mail in ballots would have solved this issue for everyone. but instead you boomer faggots want to insist upon making it about democrats and republicans without considering that maybe they both fucking cheat and have been doing it your entire life
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>>1056409
>breaking into the capitol because your team didn't win doesn't make you a traitor
They're traitors, faggot. Cope and seethe
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>>1056412
>ohhh nooo muh traitors to my wonderful fascist nation! please oh please cops, politicians, and corporations, do something about the traitors!
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>>1056411
>vote by mail unconstitutional
You must live in a shithole state.
We've had mail in voting here in AZ for decades.
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>>1056414
you must have missed the words "unverified" and "universal", that were ruled unconstitutional
way to ignore the real argument though so you can keep crying like a little bitch about the mean old orange man
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>>1056415
lol keep projecting
You can tell all these trumpbots are in a tizzy today
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>>1056413
>overturning a democratic election to keep "our guy" in office isn't fascism
I thought it was the left's job to call whatever they don't like fascism
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>>1056411
So you don't have an answer for why the person in charge of the USPS destroyed perfectly functional machines months ahead of what was to be one of the biggest surges of mail in history? Okay then
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>>1056418
I don't see any Nazi's at democrats rallies.
They're in the back of most Republican rallies, flying a literal Nazi flag.
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>>1056417
>projecting
its like you dumbfucks don't know how to deal with people that dont give a shit about trump when they call out democrats on their bullshit
you retards can't think in any terms but 1's and 0's and change the subject to misusing words that you clearly have no idea what they fucking mean
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>>1056406
Almost like the USPS was covering up voting fraud
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>>1056418
>>1056421
I'm not right wing you fucking moron. fascism is a socialist concept of merging of the state and private industry, such as the american healthcare, media, financial, energy, and tech industries. the US is objectively fascist and has been since 1913. All cops are criminals, and I applaud anyone that contributes to the deterioration of the fascist dictatorship we currently live under, irrespective of whether it comes from the "left or the "right".
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>>1056421
nazis = national socialism
the nationalization of industry
i.e. fascism
would you say its the democrats that want more market control through regulation, censorship, and oversight or republicans?
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>>1056426
To a socialist in a socialist country, things are built by the workers' hands, not bought by multinational corporations and banks, but through the combination of labor and raw materials
To a German national socialist, things are built by German hands. Not bought with Jewish money

You see the difference? For socialists, it's all about workers owning the means of production through the government. For national socialists, it's about [insert nationality here] owning it, and fuck everyone else
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>>1056425
>the US is fascist
OK, retard
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>>1056425
These traitors are still fascists
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>>1056435
>>1056436
>samefag
its like you don't actually read or have any sense of objective thought or comprehension, you just have a worldview based on the repetition of your selected authority figures. literally subhuman.
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>>1056438
>samefag
Yes. I had more to add in the second post
>words words words
It takes more than government getting involved in the economy for it to be a fascist dictatorship outside of /pol/, smoothbrain. We have a republic. A corrupt one with a shit load of issues, but a republic nonetheless. Anyone storming the capitol to overturn the results of an election their guy lost is a fascist. The irony is that a lot of these faggots probably have don't tread on me, and back the blue bumper stickers while killing a cop to keep their demagogue in power
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>>1056434
>You see the difference?
actually, no. the system has the same disastrous economic outcomes and requires the same degree of collectivism through authoritarian measures
the primary point of merging business and govt is to establish and dictate a culture that puts the nation/state above all else, regardless of whether you are persecuting jews, blacks, or whites.
nation/race/orientation are the basis of the collective that supersedes the individual
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>>1056439
>doesnt know what fascism is
back to your failure of a public school, little boy
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>>1056411
>quite a conspiracy theory you've got there
Trump admitted it in public
>>673975
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>>1056441
It isn't just whatever you decide it is, retard
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>>1056440
The motive, or motivation for founding a fascist nation state is different than founding a socialist one, and the socialist nation state can be democratic. Fascism is uniquely authoritarian
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>>1056447
>The motive, or motivation for founding a fascist nation state is different than founding a socialist one
no it isn't. the state must determine what is best for the populous that operates as a collective. anyone that does not fit the identity of the collective is to be purged or in some way "educated" to participate
>and the socialist nation state can be democratic
no it can't, because dissent disrupts the goals of the collective. if there are 5 people voting on where to go eat, and 3 of those people always agree, the other 2 at some point will be disposed
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>>1056445
I agree with you, it isn't just whatever you decide or what your favorite gay ass TV show told you. you are clearly uneducated on the topic, yet you insist upon embarrassing yourself by continuing
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>>1056447
>Fascism is uniquely authoritarian
And don't forget conservatism's end game is always some sort of authoritarian regime.
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>>1056453
the democrats are more conservative than the republicans right now. they are desperately trying to preserve a system that is falling apart, and they can't. it's over, boomer.
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>>1056451
>it isn't just whatever your favorite gay ass TV show tells you it is
Says the one clearly watching Carlson, and Kirk every night. Name one Fascist dictatorship in history that had free elections and more than one political party. The United States government is corrupt, corporations have far too much power over it, but it is still a republic. These traitors you simp for are fascists
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Hannity and Tucker being run commerical free during the thing is hilariously telling.
People may switch over to the actual testimony during a commercial break, so they literally gave up money to protect it
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>>1056453
>And don't forget conservatism's end game is always some sort of authoritarian regime.

It isn't. There is nothing wrong with being conservative, or having conservative views. Nobody is saying this except for two groups of people: extreme leftoids who are >1% of the voting population; and the conservative talk show hosts (note that these are not news anchors presenting facts, but mere """"opinion"""" """"journalists"""") telling you that those people are the literal devil and that you should therefore be afraid of everyone who is liberal or has a liberal view.

Fuck, I used to consider myself more conservative, but Trump's twisting of the republican party into his personal fascist simp brigade forces me to vote blue down the line
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>>1056464
It's really amazing isn't it? The sad thing is, most of Fox's viewers don't even understand what the network is doing. I had to basically spell it out for my dad exactly why Fox is not broadcasting the hearings, before he eventually narrowed his eyes and said "So it's just for propaganda then, isn't it?" Yes dad, it is.
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>>1056465
That anon is referring to the big C Conservative movement, coordinating around Roger Ailes and Fox vowing to control the narrative the next time a Nixonian fuck up happened.
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>>1056467
Make sure to tell him that you expect them to keep up the 'No commercials' thing. It may get him to click over when he notices.
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>>1056456
Good post, actually.
There's been a huge paradigm shift lately. Democrats are desperate to preserve the crony capitalism structure of the US, and Republicans are taking at large a populist approach to things.
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>>1056456
Other way around given it's Republicans using election fraud, voter suppression and gerrymandering to turn the country into an a shame democracy like Hungry, who they are looking to for guidance.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/23/that-american-right-hopes-emulate-hungary-is-telling/
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>>1056471
>difficulty: Republicans deepthroating crony capitalism
Their only policy is cutting corporate taxes.
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>>1056468
I would be equally angry if democrats made a Nixon/Trump level fuckup too. Because it's about ethics, morals, and the rule of law. Inb4 butthurt Conservative damage controllers whine about BLM protests and riots. Riots were >5% of the social unrest that occurred in 2020. Remember when peaceful protestors were gassed and beaten to make sure Trump could have a nice photo of himself holding a bible upside down?
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>>1056474
Also doing everything to stop worker empowerment and helping corporations and the rich.
Remember Republicans and Trump added more to the debt than Bush and Obama because of their failed economic polices.
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>>1056471
That's because the democratic party is a center right party run by the conservative faction, which has always been the case since Clinton and the DLC took over in the early 1990s.
Republicans have matched them by moving to the fringe right wing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/trump-tax-cuts-beat-gilti.html
https://www.citizen.org/news/trumps-deregulation-push-is-setting-the-stage-for-major-national-disasters/
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>PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!
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>PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!
PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!
>PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!
PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!
>PRIMETIME SHOW TRIALS!!!

A case of soylent, a big black anal dildo, and primetime show trials. Is anything better?
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>>1056483
biden has 66% disapproval among independent voters yet somehow you see everyone else in society as being fringe right wing. what do you think those 66% of people see you as?
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>>1056487
You realize it's part of a trend that applies to all branches of government right? And that just because people don't like Biden doesn't mean they want Trumpicans
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>>1056491
someday you'll realize that only a small group of old people suffer from TDS like you
I personally prefer desantis but I'd easily vote for trump over any democrat they put in the field. and guess what? I'm still registered as a democrat
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>>1056494
I registered to vote in ca about 8 years ago as an independent, somehow they reregistered me as a democrat voter somehow.
I had moved out of state, and then came back right after the motor voter program, and re registered, and then a couple years later got notices from the DNC thinking I was a registered Democrat
I suspect it had something to do with this:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article238302243.html
Which reports that "at least 600 people were affected", as counted by the number of people that called in and complained but says that over 100k are potentially affected.
Pretty sure I'm in that bucket of 100k "potentially affected" who was actually affected
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>>1056487
Because he's not playing hard ball and getting shit done since he's being obstructed by the Republicans and the few Republicans who caucus as democrats.
You can't just drill a hole in the gas tank of a car and then tell everyone its the driver's fault.
People are pissed at Biden for not punching the person who fucked up the gas tank and doing more to fix the problems.
Biden could pull a page from Trump and just threaten companies over their price gouging and set the narrative that it's the price gouging that's causing the high costs given Corporations are still enjoying record profits even with the 'inflation'.
But he's too much of a pussy to do that so everyone is pissed at him.
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>>1056494
Nice try.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/trump-approval-rating-by-state
Not a single state saw his approval increase, even in the blood of children killed by second amendment activists red states
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>>1056487
Maybe Biden should act like a liberal and take the scalps of Big Oil and the corporate media. Bet the Independents won't give a shit how he does it if he lowered gas prices no matter how much the right wing would howl.
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>>1056483
>That's because the democratic party is a center right party run by the conservative faction
>Republicans have matched them by moving to the fringe right wing.
put the crack pipe down anon
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>>1056050
The ones that shut down cities, destroyed businesses, and were plastered wall to wall over every media while we stayed home because a druggy killed himself while a cop was touching him.
And when white men dare to stand they are criminals. People were very tired of it. It makes me progressive levels of smug glee to imagine how they feel now and what they're waiting for.
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>>1056094
Their careers are fine. They're on the """side of good""" and will see no consequences and to suggest any would be whataboutism.
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>>1056553
Damn buddy, you working overtime with that willful ignorance, careful crossing the street with your fingers jammed so far into your ears. Might not hear the cars honking before you get run down.
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>>1056560
Oh. Are we pretending there are consequences for shitting on white, male, or right now? Sorry, I don't track this stuff that closely.
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>>1056014
I love how AOC wasn't there but is crying about re-living that event. This whole trial is bullshit.
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>>1056563
She had to HIDE in a BATHROOM in ANOTHER BUILDING and an ANGRY MAN spoke to her through a CLOSED DOOR. Do you have no sympathy?
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>>1056014
lmao no one care

No one is forgetting about Bidenflation or the gas prices. You are going to get raped in midterms and no amount of this shit is going to change it.
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>>1056586
Keep telling yourself that
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>>1056042
Lefty faggtos trying to gaslight the purpose of the riot that day is cute. It was because people were upset the election was subverted and stolen and because they were fed lies by democrat politicians and media the election was secure. It's pretty simple. Democrats should own up to their mistakes, but we all know they're not emotionally or mentally mature enough to do so.
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>>1056176
Biden and the democrats are the coup. It's blatantly evident by their actions. They're so desperate for power and all they've done is destroy the country.
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>>1056178
Based.
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>>1056404
>an unarmed woman walking into a building she owns as a taxpayer to peacefully protest a rigged election is a traitor
You've gone full Stalin. You're a permanently brainwashed sheep for the state. You'll never question your propaganda or the taste of leather you're so accustomed to.
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>>1056413
This. They'll never see the irony.
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>>1056014
jan 6 doesnt matter until democrat promoted antifa violence, democrat promoted blm riot violence, democrat promoted chaz violence, anti asian violence, waukesha black supremacists terrorist violence, Brooklyn subway black supremacist terrorist violence, matters.

Eat shit democrat shills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh2UoX1b0MY
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>>1056417
Your firmware just got uploaded with Jan 6th propaganda and you're here to cover your cope with poorly thought out non believable smugness. You're not trying to convince us, you're trying to convince yourself. Can't wait to see what you faggots will be outraged about next week.
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>>1056421
Lol are these nazi flags in the room with you now? Show me who's holding the nazi flags and at the same time isn't a glowie.
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>>1056422
They're so conditioned by propaganda to the point where they can't form real original thoughts. They are already loaded with what to think and how to think. They'll never understand reality for what it is. If they were forced to acknowledge the truth they'd probably commit suicide because they're that weak.
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>>1056763
>walking into a building
She was very clearly trying to get past a police barricade when shot. Some of the police seemed to just let them in, but some did their jobs, and one died. Not all of them just "walked in" to the capitol building
>she owns as a taxpayer to peacefully protest a rigged election
If that were true, I wouldn't give a shit. This wasn't a "peaceful protest", though, and she wasn't trying to protest. They were all trying to overturn the election. If the capitol police hadn't finally done their job, and held them back where they did, Trump may still be President, or we'd be at war with ourselves
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>>1056436
Same NPC response. You can't even explain how anyone's a traitor. You can't even explain what a fascist is. You're just doubling down on how much you hate your political opponents without thinking about why because truthfully you're just a weak faggot degenerate who doesn't want the responsibility of reason and self governance. That's why you rely on propaganda to do your thinking for you and that's why you rely on daddy government to run your life.
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>>1056768
Can you people not accept that there are crazy, more radical elements of your "team"? That there are Nazis who vote Republican? Because there are definitely Communists and Anarchists that vote Democrat
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>>1056456
>they are desperately trying to preserve a system that is falling apart
Yes. The corrupt system they've always had for generations where they pit the people against each other, launder money to themselves, cover up their crimes, wield the feds against their political opposition, and brainwash the people with their own propaganda networks. You're right. They can't preserve it. We're catching onto them. People are waking up. That's why the left is dialing the propaganda knob up to 11 while trying desperately to distract us from everything they're doing. That's why they're blatantly trying to disarm everyone. They know the only course of action is to make their uniparty while they have the chance. Because the endgame is the destruction of the west and the implementation of a new world order.
T. World economic forum
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>>1056461
I like how the only people you can reference is Tucker Carleson and Charlie kirk. Lol you know even people like Joe rogan don't agree with you retards and can see what's going on right? And he has a larger audience than all of your NPC networks combined. That's just one example of how your lies are not mainstream thought. Cope.
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>>1056464
Holy fucking stretch are you serious?? Nobody would have thought of such a retarded cope as this. You're literally making up conspiracies about commercial breaks because nobody decided to tune into your NPC media clown show?? Lmao you watch more fox than actual republicans do
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>>1056467
>oh no fox News isn't broadcasting my nothingburger clown show
Your dad knows your a faggot. And he probably regrets having you
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>>1056473
Election fraud is real and always has been
And illegal non citizens should not vote.
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>>1056771
>can't even explain how anyone's a traitor
I think I have plenty of times this thread. Anyone who tried to overturn the election to keep "their" guy in power is a fascist, and a traitor to this Republic. Here's Here's definition for you if that's too much to grasp, though: "a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc". Republicans put party over country, plain and simple
>can't explain what a fascist is
Someone who wants a dictatorship with no opposition, smoothbrain. Overturning a democratic election to keep "your" guy in power through force and political shenanigans is fascist
>doubling down on how much you hate your political opponents
I have family and friends who I disagree with. I love em, and even find common ground sometimes. I don't hate them. I hate fascists
>weak faggot degenerate
I can't think of anyone more weak minded than fucking fascists. Stupid, boot licking cucks willing to give up their personal freedoms just to feel a little safer, and somewhat superior. Fuck em
>rely on propaganda
You say this, but regurgitate the same points every right wing pundit makes at the same time
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>>1056474
>Their only policy is cutting corporate taxes
>muh corporations bad
Funny how it's Biden who has inflated the shit out of the country yet still has managed to give corporations all time high profits by doing so. Funny how you'll suit on corporations while believing everything they tell you to believe and buy everything they sell.
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>>1056476
Holy fucking cope. Trump created the most economic prosperity the country has ever had. The minute Biden got in office he undid all of it. You're dealing with the highest inflation, highest gas prices, worst border, worst markets, and least stability you've ever had in your life and all you can say is Trump is bad. Amazing.
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>>1056507
Biden created this mess on purpose you idiot. That was his job all along. That's why they installed him.
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>>1056560
>I'm going to depict my opposition as silly rather than refuting anything they say
You're the fucking shit for brains here, bud. Learn that truth.
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>>1056776
There are a lot of others besides those two that spout the same bullshit. I don’t know all their names because I don't tune into right wing propaganda. Joe Rogan is probably a smart guy, but I would take whatever he says about anything unrelated to fighting, physical fitness, etc with a grain of salt. Am I supposed to admit defeat because a retired UFC fighter, or whatever maybe agrees with you? Fuck off, faggot. If you're not gonna put up an actual argument, engage with what I said, or keep denying that overturning a democratic election is a move out of the fascist playbook; then let's both just move the fuck on lmao
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>>1056770
>She was very clearly trying to get past a police barricade when shot
A literal policeman with an ar15 was right beside her escorting her peacefully you retard. You obviously don't know shit and haven't seen anything outside of your carefully edited propaganda. Why the fuck is the building barricaded when the building belongs to the taxpayer? And MANY police let the people in. There's footage of the cops waving people in.
>They were all trying to overturn the election
Then it would have been much more violent and the protestors would have all brought guns and it would have been a literal bloodbath you idiot. It was not an insurrection. But it should have been
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>>1056772
There are far more actual communists in the US than actual nazis. Nazis are a sliver of a sliver of the population, whereas commies are being created every day in college campuses. And the feds have been proven to use nazi symbolism to create false flags. They never use commie symbolism. Pay the fuck attention retard.
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>>1056780
>Someone who wants a dictatorship with no opposition
That's literally you fuckwit
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>>1056780
>Stupid, boot licking cucks willing to give up their personal freedoms just to feel a little safer
Again this is literally you
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>>1056780
>Republicans put party over country, plain and simple
That's literally what the democrats did when they stole the election
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>>1056787
>a policeman was right beside her escorting her peacefully
And then just shot her out of nowhere? Sounds like bullshit. I haven't seen the video for a while, but I don't think she got shot for nothing
>why the fuck is the building barricaded
Probably to keep retards out while trying to certify an election
>they weren't trying to overturn the election
Okay so let's say there were no cops. That these people were allowed to go anywhere in the building they wanted, even the floor of the House, or wherever the election was being certified. What do you think at least a thousand pissed off right wingers would do in a room with 535 people trying to certify an election they've deemed rigged?
>none of them had guns
I don't think any of them went to the pep rally outside the capitol honestly expecting they'd be in the capitol building later that day. It sure surprised the shit out of me when it happened
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>>1056786
Lemme break it down so the retard (you) can understand. Joe rogan has an enormously large platform, much more so than your NPC media that's been proven to be liars. Because Joe rogan encourages open and unbiased dialogue. And he has a lot of people on there from all different walks of life and most of them who aren't even conservative don't reflect your levels of retarded beliefs. In fact, he's been labeled right wing just because he's not die hard left. You faggots can't cope with the fact your mental illness isn't mainstream thought.
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>>1056792
You obviously have no idea what happened. She was being escorted by a bike cop with an ar15. She attempted to climb over the barricade and then got shot in the neck from the other side of the barricade. The bike cop then shouldered his rifle and looked to see who was doing the shooting.
>What do you think at least a thousand pissed off right wingers would do in a room with 535 people trying to certify an election they've deemed rigged?
Literally the same fucking thing all protesters without weapons do. Yell and scream and demand justice and make a bunch of fucking noise and annoy the fuck out of everyone. If they were all there to kill and actually perform a coup, they would have.
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>>1056788
>there are far more actual communists in this country than actual Nazis
I think there are very few of each, and a lot of people who call themselves commies and Nazis to be edgy, or fit in with a particular group
>commies are being created every day in colleges
Lots of limp wristed, two tone hair, latte sippin faggots, more like. Same way the internet, /pol/ in particular radicalizes young people for the far right
>the feds
Is this the new cope for right wing extremism? It isn't that young, stupid, impressionable people are going on 4chan, becoming radicalized, and then getting themselves on the news; it's just the feds?
>>1056789
>Anyone left of center is supportive of a dictatorship
Musk owns Twitter now, so rest easy, anon. Should be able to say the n word outside of 4chan again soon
>>1056790
I'll give you that Democrats going after guns is an attack on personal liberty, but going after gay and trans people because right wing propaganda has you so scared of them isn't much better
>>1056791
>democrats stole the election
They didn't. Republicans started saying they would well before the election, sowing doubt among their base so that when they lost, and they did; they could claim it was rigged and try to overturn the election
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>>1056793
Again, am I supposed to agree with you because UFC man does? Yes he's popular. Yes he has lots of people from different walks of life, and with different views on his show. That's great. What the fuck does that have to do with how valid a source Joe Rogan is in this context? I'd be more interested in hearing what he has to say about whether drinking chocolate milk after a workout is actually good for you or not
>she attempted to climb over the barricade
So she chimped out, and tried to go over the barricade, then got shot? I'll have to watch it again later
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>>1056800
Second part is for
>>1056795
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>>1056631
It’s objectively correct, keep seething, and enjoy getting your asshole gaped in November.
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>>1056044
There's that mental immaturity
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>failed coup
>no military involvement
>coup
kek
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>>1056853
>Single word instead of the shit-flinging, baiting, memeimg, bickering, and dick waiving the thread has become.
Thank you for noticing. I attempted to lead by example. It apparently didn't work. But that's why I left this meaningless shit behind. You guys just sound like Israel politics and we havn't even collapsed yet.
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>>1056785
Racist
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>>1056049
>Conservatives, right here on 4channel.org, the day of: CROSS THE RUBICON BRAVE PATRIOTS! TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!
>conservatives, right here on 4channel.org, current day: ummm akshually you don't know for sure what they were planning so they're innocent of all wrongdoing and definitely were not planning to take over
Do you know what "crossing the Rubicon" means, and what the historical context of it is?
Why were you all using that as your rallying cry the day of if you didn't want a Caesarian-style takeover and dictatorship?
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>>1056782
>Trump created the most economic prosperity the country has ever had.
Only for the billionaires and wall street, everyone else got screwed
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/trumps-economic-legacy/story?id=74760051
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>>1056761
>Trump and the Republicans are the coup. It's blatantly evident by their actions. They're so desperate for power and all they've done is destroy the country.
Fixed
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>>1056014
Are you fags still trying to say it was a Coup attempt?
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>>1056870
I did fine. Everyone I knew did fine. I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination either.
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>>1056867
Didn't happen, take your meds.
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>>1056870
>everyone else got screwed
Right? It's not like consumer confidence and spending wasn't higher during the Trump admin or anything, pre-covid
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/10/americans-feel-good-economy/
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>>1056958
Helps when the conservatively biased media tows what ever the Republicans want.
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>>1056960
>conservatively biased media
Meds. Now.
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>>1056972
Um? Fox News refused to even show the hearings, but their talking heads all were still there, because there text messages begging Trump not to do a coop have all been revealed. Tuck and Ingraham and the whole lot knew Trump was trying to steal the election and begged him to stop.

And now they won’t even show the hearings, so yes, conservative bias media. Sorry to break up that echo chamber.
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>>1056992
Meds. Double dose.
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>>1057202
>>1056972
We get it, you need to take your meds
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>>1057389
>no u
Reddits finest, I see.
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>>1057202
>>1057415
Typical conservative response. Facts are pointed out that contradict their lies >>1056992

They respond with a dismissive insult, because conservatives can not engage a conversation on the issues. All they have are their tender fee fees.
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>>1056992
>>1057436
How does to feel to know that no one under 65 believes you or even cares?
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>>1057441
I like how you sound like you know these things for certain.
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How convenient that Stepien has a family emergency the day before his testimony, maybe he'll even have a doctors note ready by the time he actually shows up.

This shit doesn't fly for 18 year old college freshmen, what the fuck.
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>>1057442
The polls don't lie anon, the hearings are boomer nighttime entertainment
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>>1057448
>The polls don't lie
>polls were wrong in 2020, 2016, 2012, 2010, 2008, 2006, etc..
You're retarded.
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>>1057450
>strawman
Are you saying the polls are now, in fact, lying?
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>>1057451
The real question is why aren't you the one saying that? Are you saying you trust the polls?
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>>1057453
>trying to pin your shitty strawman on me
Are the polls lying or not anon?
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>>1057454
Why would you suddenly start to believe polls? What has changed in the last few years?
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>>1057455
Answer the question anon, are the polls lying or not?
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>>1057457
NO U answer the question. Why should you be so concerned with polls when you were discredited them for so long?
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>>1057461
>>1057457
The same polls which said Hillary would win, are generally biased in favor of Democrats, and for them to show such low approval of Biden suggests his actual approval is below abysmal
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>>1057463
So?
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For anyone curious as to why there's so much focus on if Trump and Co actually considered the election stolen, it's because if they knew it was legitimate before 1/6 and still spread lies saying that it was stolen, it proves they were trying to keep Trump in power despite losing by using 1/6 to try and override the results.
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>>1057436
You’ve already been BTFO by the actual data. No one cares. Screeching here doesn’t change that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CACKzSYpOE
Day 2.
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>>1057465
>it's because if they knew it was legitimate before 1/6
Weren't they filing like dozens of lawsuits the entire year leading up to this tho pretty much claiming that the voting law changes were being done in order to rig the election?
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>>1057483
>Weren't they filing like dozens of lawsuits the entire year leading up to this
No, Trump was actively sabotaging the US postal service and Republican states passed laws prohibiting mail votes from being counted early to feed into the lie that Trump won on election night.
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>>1057489
Didn’t happen.
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>>1057491
La la la la did t happen no no no I don’t hear you La la la la
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>>1057489
I just checked, and yes, the trump campaign filed many lawsuits before the election against states alleging that their new voting laws were going to be used to rig their states elections
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>>1057495
>schizophrenic becomes enraged people don’t believe his revisionist history
Many such cases.
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>>1056014
Dems & GOP give us bread & circuses rather than housing
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>>1056055
The only acceptable propaganda machine is coming from the left.
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>>1056111
It was so bad they stayed behind the velvet ropes on their unguided tour
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>>1057574
So just blatant willful ignorance then? I mean there are videos right now you could watch that clearly show you are lying.

Just don’t want to see that fact? Or don’t care that you are lying and are hear to spread that lie?
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>>1057491
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-ap-top-news-elections-politics-14a2ceda724623604cc8d8e5ab9890ed
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx
This is where you poison the well or engage in a whataboutism.
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>>1057594
>I mean there are videos right now you could watch that clearly show you are lying.
Just like there were videos of them carrying firearms into the building

Still waiting on those, btw
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>>1057690
Fake news
Kill yourself demorat
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>>1057736
Cope and seethe /pol/ppet
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Day 3 hearings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkZHb2kA2c
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>>1057594
The only thing spreading here is your AIDS infested butthole.

We’re there people in there illegally, yes. We’re there a few bad actors instigating the mob, yes.

Let’s remind everyone how security stood by doing nothing, let’s remind everyone how the “mob” was waiting patiently behind barricades and were let in by security, let’s remind everyone of the selfies security was taking with the “mob”.

Look faggot, if you believe this was a coup then you’re going to be really surprised when one actually takes place.
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>>1058932
Why do you lie?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ONC-qQEcfg
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>>1058935
Because lying is one of the core tenets of fascism; the people cannot be trusted with power, only a single individual can. The people are meant to shield.tje individual so they can wield power with absolute discretion. To that end, lying is acceptable because of the leader says a thing is, it is.
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The Committee is essentially shutting off all of Trump's planned escape hatches for being prosecuted for staging the coup by going through all this since he would have used three excuses if brought to trial.

>I didn't know it was illegal
>No one tried to stop me
>Plausible deniability

All the information released shows Trump was told multiple times that his plan to steal the election was so against the constitution, not even the packed Republican supreme court would rule in his favor and only the biggest traitors like Eastman tried pushing for it. Everyone else was telling Trump he lost, and his plan to get Pence to reject the results and install Trump as leader was unconstitutional
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>>1058993
This
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We'll need another thread
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-capitol-siege-biden-donald-trump-presidential-70b3fad9f2b3d990c2e097c3d1143f1a
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-2022-midterm-elections-georgia-election-recounts-5cffe294a372eb32dc68588784202314
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>>1058993
>>1059394
2 more weeks
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>>1060916
2 more weeks of hearings
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/1106762904/jan-6-hearings-july
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Gonna be hilarious when people still care much more about Bidenflation and gas prices than this shit and you still get raped during midterms.
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>>1058993
If that were true, they would just arrest him already.

They have nothing.
And you know it.
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>>1061263
This argument is disingenuous because he knows, as everyone else does, that if they just walked over to Mar a Lago and arrested Donald it would be a huge shitshow. People like the person I'm responding to would scream to the high heavens that the arrest wasn't justified and that r/the_donald is innocent, in spite of the evidence which is literally being compiled in front of their very eyes.

What would convince you that it was real? Would hundreds of interviews illustrating the coup be enough? What about videos of violent insurrectionists breaking through windows and doors chanting "Hang Mike Pence"? Or the confirmed elections, having been counted and recounted, and in some states even re-audited, in the various states that you claim are irregular? Is there anything besides the former president himself standing up and saying "Yeah, I attempted a coup"? Would that even?
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>>1061263
>Ignoring the fact Trump's allies in congress have been impeding any official charges towards him for 5 years straight.
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>>1061263
Based and true.
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>>1061263
>>1061768
Can I ask who "they" are in terms of who is supposed to arrest Donald? Do you take the fact that the committee (which does not have the power to bring charges) has yet to arrest the former president as evidence that they do not have the evidence? That's like walking into a pizza parlor and expecting them to serve you Chinese food. That's just now how it works. I personally think the DOJ should just arrest Donald at this point to shut morons like you up. Because you don't know how it works, and you sow confusion amongst those who want to know and are acting in good faith.
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>>1061778
>we have SOOOOOO much criminal evidence that we just can’t arrest him
It’s all so tiresome.
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>>1061786
>Ignoring the fact he would've been in prison and removed from office if the same people who would've been guilty with him weren't the same people who had to decide his guilt

Also, like anon said, a hearing itself doesn't have the ability to arrest someone. There still needs to be a full criminal trial, which Trump and co have been taking every step to oppose.

This is like arguing Al Capone is innocent of murder.
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>>1061786
Who is they? Answer the question and I'll give you an answer
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>>1061790
>who would've been guilty with him weren't the same people who had to decide his guilt
Oh, a conspiracy theorist.

>>1061791
I don’t need to. Cope. It’s fun to see people claiming someone is guilty but can’t be arrested because reasons.
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>>1061793
This isn't even a theory; if Trump was removed from office for his role in 1/6, his buddies in congress who were supporting it (Greene, Cruz, etc) would've also been guilty of the same charges.

Also, again, your argument would mean we never should've arrested Al Capone or any other mob boss with any legitimate front. Powerful people can evade punishment, but that doesn't mean they're innocent.
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>>1061798
You repeating a literal conspiracy theory doesn’t make it any less of a conspiracy theory, Anon.
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>>1061802
How is it a conspiracy theory?
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>>1061793
>I don’t need to. Cope. It’s fun to see people claiming someone is guilty but can’t be arrested because reasons.

Okay so you don't know how making an arrest is actually done then. Just so you know, the committee itself (being a part of the legislative branch) can't just go out and arrest people. The power to enforce the laws of the United States rests at the feet of the President, which is delegated to the Department of Justice. Due to the high possibility of political interference in investigations, the DOJ is as separate from the President as it can be. Therefore, it is the role of the DOJ to arrest and bring charges against the former president. But, the current attorney general has yet to make an arrest because an arrest made before all evidence is properly compiled and a convincing argument is made is likely to be thrown out. Which is why we are seeing the committee do it's work.
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>>1061803
Are you genuinely asking how claiming there was a large conspiracy to overthrow the government is a conspiracy theory?
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>>1061804
Okay so you don’t know how the dog and pony show is done then.

This is going to be just like muh Mueller, where we waste millions of dollars and come away with hurt feefees and nothing substantive. Trump will walk and you will seethe.
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>>1061805
It's not a theory, it's literally a fact. The hearing going on right now shows exactly that.

Trump and his allies wanted to ignore the results of election to keep him in power. This isn't a theory, this is a fact.

They coordinated with the leaders of the rally on 1/6. This isn't a theory, this is a fact.

They intended to submit an alternate slate of electors who would ensure Trump would remain in power. This isn't a theory, this is a fact.
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>>1061809
Repeating the latest phrase that you downloaded from CNN doesn’t change reality. I wish you the best of luck on your two more weeks.
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>>1061806
Its funny that you bring up Mueller, because dozens of people were arrested and are now serving prison time for committing crimes as a result of that probe. Which were brought by the DOJ after and during the evidence collection phase. But that's besides the point.

I'm fine with "wasting" millions of dollars on an investigation into the 1/6 coup, just like I was fine with wasting millions of dollars on the Durham probe, even though I didn't think they would find anything (they didn't), and even though it turned out to be actually useless. So I'll ask again, why do you have a problem with the fact that the committee itself has not arrested the president? It literally does not have the power to do so.
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>>1061810
Not that anon, but if you hate CNN so much you should listen to the hearings on public radio. They play the raw hearings, with no commentary or distracting banners. That way you can hear the evidence the committee has compiled directly with no media filter
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>>1061812
Why would I listen to a show trial?
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>>1061813
To hear evidence and decide for yourself if it's valid, like a rational human being instead of a brainwashed fox news drone
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>>1061814
Why would I listen to Fox? Projecting a stereotype onto me isn’t going to make your argument more compelling. I don’t want news because there isn’t any reason to do so.
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>>1061815
*watch
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>>1061815
You just projected your stereotype on me. I dont watch CNN, MSNBC, or any of the big media conglomerates. The only source of news I somewhat trust is NPR, when they are reporting direct facts C-SPAN style. What news do you consume then? How do you even know the hearings are being held?
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>>1056042
leftists losers still rioting in the capital through their hero steven colbert. no charges ofc
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>>1061815
>I don’t want news because there isn’t any reason to do so.
>I don't care a former President tried to overthrow democracy

If that isn't a reason to at least hear it a little bit I don't know what is. Also if you don't care, why the fuck are you covering for him and saying "Oh Trump is innocent".
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>>1061817
I have listened to NPR in the past (particularly during gun arguments), and pretending they don’t have an obvious bias is laughable.

>what news do you consume
If something is relevant enough, it simply filters its way towards me even via real life or 4chan. Amazing, once you stop listening to propagandists your stop hearing about how ice cream is racist now, how cell phone chargers are sexist, why twerking is an affront to Judaism, and many other retarded “news” claims.
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>>1061821
I never said it didn't have a bias. I said I listen to NPR for C-SPAN style streams, like the committee hearing right now.

>simply filters its way towards me even via real life
Where do you think those people are getting their news?
> or 4chan
Biggest oof imaginable. "Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

>an affront to Judaism,
Ah it all makes much more sense now
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>>1061824
If they have a bias, why listen to them?

>where are they getting it
They likely get it from one of the NPC channels. The difference is it has to have enough of an effect on their life to communicate it to me, which, again, weeds out a lot of retarded bullshit.

>bit oof
Did I say I believed everything I read?

>le ebin nazi
I figured you would try to spin that. Conservatives are the biggest defenders of Judaism around and that was an allusion to them. Don’t go full NPC and pretend it’s something it isn’t.
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>>1061825
Because every news has bias and I choose the one with the least egregious bias. Not rocket surgery

>Did I say I believed everything I read?
Your only two cited sources are 4chan word of mouth. Do you have an answer for where your friends get their news from?

>Nazis
I mean, look at where we are. This site almost got mountain dew to name a flavor "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong". So you being a Nazi isn't exactly far fetched, especially while espousing extreme right wing views which many neo-Nazis ascribe to
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>>1061830
I already answered where they get their news from.

What “extreme right wing views” have i espoused?

I might as well call you a Stalinist tranny if we are going off stereotypical /news/ inhabitants.
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>>1061832
So you believe the media conglomerates if it's filtered through your friends first then? By that line of thinking you do, in fact, believe the big news media then.

I would consider anyone at this point complaining about the "stolen election" or the select committee doing their job to be a right wing extremist. Because any rational person would know that the committee is conducting an investigation to decide whether to make a recommendation to arrest Donald of attempting a coup, and that this committee's existence is justified given the events of 1/6.
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>>1061835
>any rational person agrees with me
Yep, there we go. You’re an NPC. Nice job though, I almost mistook you as reasonable.
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>>1061836
I encourage you to listen to the select committee's hearings. Your opinions might change.
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>>1061836
>Refuses to listen to evidence
>"You're such an NPC for thinking that"
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>its a fake trial!
All that documentary footage that Trump fucked himself with Tiger King footage is going to be dismissed the same way.
You can't force these retards to accept evidence. They have their narrative and they're going to stick to it.
Its why RINOs are a thing. They can only operate if everyone is working in lockstep to advance their bullshit
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>... the committee stands adjourned.
what were you doing, this June 23rd, during the hearings?
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>>1061825
Conservatives defend Israel, not Judaism. There is a pretty significant distinction.
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>>1061851
Is the phrase “Judeo-Christian values” etc defending Israel, or defending Judaism?
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>>1058217
Get vaxxed subhuman commie
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>>1061793
The title of conspiracy theorist is a badge of honor these days. If anything the news media calling you one means you're actually right and they want to prevent you from knowing the truth.
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>>1061818
>Source: my ass
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>>1061263
If Trump didn't commit any crimes, why did the people who commit crimes for him ask for pardons?
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>>1061887
If leftists don’t groom kids, why do they get so upset when you ban grooming?
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>>1061890
Only Republicans are groomers, why do you think Trump killed Epstein?
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>>1061892
Israelis probably killed Epstein. He was an Israeli intelligence asset
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>>1061896
>Probably
No, it was Trump, he controlled the prison and Barr went to speak with Epstein the night before he was murdered
>B-b-but the witness recanted
Yeah, because he didn't want to get murdered by Trump next.
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>>1061887
Because that was the only play to avoid legal repercussions. Why would randos trying to avoid jail asking for pardons implicate the person who could potentially pardon them?
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>>1061899
>No, it was Trump, he controlled the prison and Barr went to speak with Epstein the night before he was murdered
Citation needed, and one must ask, why do you claim it was Trump?
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>>1061944
Because they were afraid of going to jail? Idk it's not hard to figure out



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