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>President-elect Joe Biden will roll out a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws the day he is inaugurated, including an eight-year pathway to citizenship for immigrants without legal status and an expansion of refugee admissions, along with an enforcement plan that deploys technology to patrol the border.

>Biden’s legislative proposal, which will be sent to Congress on Wednesday, also includes a heavy focus on addressing the root causes of migration from Central America, a key part of Biden’s foreign policy portfolio when he served as vice president.

>The centerpiece of the plan from Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris is the eight-year pathway, which would put millions of qualifying immigrants in a temporary status for five years and then grant them a green card once they meet certain requirements such as a background check and payment of taxes. They would be able to apply for citizenship three years later.

>Biden’s bill will have three overarching pillars, the transition officials said: provisions to address the causes of migration, border management and a path to citizenship.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-immigration-plan/2021/01/18/f0526824-59a8-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

Biden is going to propose the most sweeping and progressive immigration bill in the last 50+ years. Basically, people like those with DACA and other temporary protected statuses will have a path to citizenship within years.

How do you all feel about this?

I have one friend in particular who has DACA, isn't hispanic or has any criminal background, has a STEM bachelor's and has been here since he's been a month old. I know he feels happy as shit about this.

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>>773470
Because criminals dont get citizenship for just being here for a long time
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>>773471
in his entire lifetime he could have legally gained citizenship but he didn't, and this is good apparently
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>>773472
Yea, he should be deported because he is a criminal
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>>773462
Not the evidence but the erroneous conclusion you have drawn from it.

>>773465
Yes, I'm furiously pounding my desk in anger and frustration because illegal aliens exist. Oh wait, no that's you.
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>>773475
The conclusion that because there are photos and documented accounts of blacks protesting apollo that blacks protested apollo?

https://www.oann.com/project-veritas-twitter-plans-to-erode-free-speech-worldwide/
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Companies have the right to do whatever they want with their product. Deal with it. You decided this when you said companies could refuse to make cakes for faggots. Here is the grave you dug, now lie in it.
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>>773327
You don't have to be retarded to see how you stick out like a sore thumb..
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>>773365
the major networks are on the same level
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>>773473
According to whom?
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>>773477
anyone with eyes and a 2 brain cells to knock around in their skull

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/19/parler-website-partially-returns-with-support-from-russian-owned-technology-firm

P a r l e r, the social network popular with Donald Trump supporters, has partially returned online with the help of a R u s s i a n-owned technology company.

The network vanished from the internet after it was dropped by Amazon’s hosting arm and other partners over a lack of moderation after its users called for violence and posted videos glorifying the attack on the US Capitol on 6 January.

On Monday, P a r l e r’s website was reachable again, though only with a message from its chief executive, John "Lev" Matze, saying he was working to restore functionality.

DDoS-Guard’s other clients include the Russian ministry of defense, as well as media org in Moscow. Until recently, it offered 8 k u n – which was previously known as 8 c h a n – protection from DDoS. Last week, DDoS-Guard became the latest company to cut ties with 8 k u n’s hosting company, V a n w a T e c h, following inquiries from the Guardian.
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>>773383
Tell that to the people who decided to deploy them without ammo because too few of them voted for Biden.
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>>773383
it's afraid
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>>773386
Okay schizo.
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>>773343
Your actions have proven you literally hate your own country, would rather see most in the US dead and kiss the ground Russian and North Korea walk. Please shut up for once.
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>>773202
because you won't let them talk in a country that used to care about free speech

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https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/political-scientist-author-charged-acting-unregistered-agent-iranian-government
Defendant Lobbied U.S. Officials, Published Books and Articles Advancing Iranian Viewpoints While Secretly Employed by the Iranian Mission to the United Nations

BROOKLYN, NY – A criminal complaint was unsealed today in federal court in Brooklyn charging Kaveh Lotfolah Afrasiabi, also known as “Lotfolah Kaveh Afrasiabi,” with acting and conspiring to act as an unregistered agent of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). Afrasiabi was arrested yesterday at his home in Watertown, Massachusetts, and will make his initial appearance this morning in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts, before United States Magistrate Judge Jennifer C. Boal.

Seth D. DuCharme, Acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York; John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security; William F. Sweeney, Jr., Assistant Director-in-Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, New York Field Office (FBI); and Joseph Bonavolonta, Special Agent-in-Charge, FBI, Boston Field Office announced the arrest and charges.

“Afrasiabi allegedly sought to influence the American public and American policymakers for the benefit of his employer, the Iranian government, by disguising propaganda as objective policy analysis and expertise,” stated Acting U.S. Attorney DuCharme. “This Office is committed to the robust enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which provides the American people the tools they need to evaluate opinions and arguments in the marketplace of ideas by requiring foreign agents to declare their paymasters. Those, like the defendant, who conceal the full extent of their work for a foreign government when the law requires disclosure will face consequences for their actions.”
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“For over a decade, Kaveh Afrasiabi pitched himself to Congress, journalists, and the American public as a neutral and objective expert on Iran," stated Assistant Attorney General Demers. “However, all the while, Afrasiabi was actually a secret employee of the Government of Iran and the Permanent Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the United Nations (IMUN) who was being paid to spread their propaganda. In doing so, he intentionally avoided registering with Department of Justice as the Foreign Agents Registration Act required. He likewise evaded his obligation to disclose who was sponsoring his views. We now begin to hold him responsible for those deeds.”

“Anyone working to advance the agenda of a foreign government within the United States is required by law to register as an agent of that country,” stated FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge Sweeney. “Mr. Afrasiabi never disclosed to a Congressman, journalists or others who hold roles of influence in our country that he was being paid by the Iranian government to paint an untruthfully positive picture of the nation. Our laws are designed to create transparency in foreign relations, and they are not arbitrary or malleable. As today's action demonstrates, we will fully enforce them to protect our national security.”

“Our arrest of Kaveh Afrasiabi makes it clear that the United States is not going to allow undeclared agents of Iran to operate in our country unchecked. For more than a decade, Mr. Afrasiabi was allegedly paid, directed, and controlled by the Government of Iran to lobby U.S. government officials, including a Congressman; and to create and disseminate information favorable to the Iranian government,” stated FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Bonavolonta. “The FBI will continue to do everything it can to uncover these hidden efforts and hold accountable those who work for our adversaries to the detriment of our national security.”
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According to the complaint, Afrasiabi is a citizen of the Islamic Republic of Iran and a lawful permanent resident of the United States. Afrasiabi holds a PhD, and frequently publishes books and articles, and appears on English-language television programs discussing foreign relations matters, particularly Iran’s relations with the United States. Afrasiabi has identified or portrayed himself as a political scientist, a former political science professor or as an expert on foreign affairs.

Since at least 2007 to the present, Afrasiabi has also been secretly employed by the Iranian government and paid by Iranian diplomats assigned to the Permanent Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the United Nations in New York City (IMUN). Afrasiabi has been paid approximately $265,000 in checks drawn on the IMUN’s official bank accounts since 2007 and has received health insurance through the IMUN’s employee health benefit plans since at least 2011.

In the course of his employment by the Iranian government, Afrasiabi has lobbied a U.S. Congressman and the U.S. Department of State to advocate for policies favorable to Iran, counseled Iranian diplomats concerning U.S. foreign policy, made television appearances to advocate for the Iranian government’s views on world events, and authored articles and opinion pieces espousing the Iranian government’s position on various matters of foreign policy. Afrasiabi has long known that FARA requires agents of foreign principals to register with the U.S. Department of Justice and has discussed information obtained from FARA disclosures with others. Nevertheless, Afrasiabi did not register as an agent of the Government of Iran.

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Countries often on the receiving end of criticism by Washington for falling short of democratic ideals have used the chaos in the Capitol as an opportunity to tell the U.S. it should practice what it preaches.

https://www.newsweek.com/america-adversaries-capitol-chaos-failure-democracy-1559738

After supporters of President Donald Trump broke into and ransacked the government building, scenes of the clashes, tear gas and bullets fired led officials in Russia, China and Iran to question how the U.S. could still consider itself an exporter of democracy.

Russian foreign affairs spokeswoman Maria Zakharova posted on her Facebook page a comment by a user that said: "The United States will never again be able to tell the world that we are the paragon of democracy."

Zakharova then started a Facebook post by saying it was no business of the Kremlin to comment on the internal affairs of the U.S.—before going on to do just that.

"We reiterate that the electoral system in the United States is archaic, it does not meet modern democratic standards," she wrote in the post, adding that such a system "creates opportunities for multiple violations, and the American media has become a tool for political struggle."

"This was largely the cause of the division of society now observed in the United States," she added.

Earlier, Russia's first deputy ambassador to the United Nations, Dmitry Polyanskiy, described the scenes as "Maidan-style," referring to the popular uprising that ousted the Kremlin-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014 which Putin claimed was sponsored by the U.S.

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>>772979
Idiot, not one school got shut down lmao swine flue was NO pandimic boy, take that fear mongering bullshit and shove it
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>>772979
REEEEEEE
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>>773287
>not one school got shut down
you would know underage b&
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>>773286
You can't be an honest party, when you've convinced your electorate that your life or identity is on the line. It would be foolish naiveté on the edge of suicide to fail to fight for that in anyway that you could. If any party were to do anything less, we'd be ashamed of its timid weakness.

There are plenty of left wing Trumptards, who see him as the enemy, both adding to and highlighting the core problem, along with those on the right. They can be seen as either a light to chase shadows away from the core issue between them, or something you must fight against by pouring your own darkness into them, until you're all lost in the dark fires of having to win at all costs.
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>>763465
Thank fucking Christ. You globohomo retards weren't supposed to use Team America as a blueprint for US foreign policy.

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Russia’s withdrawal from the Treaty on Open Skies, announced by the Russian Foreign Ministry Friday, was inevitable due to the lack of desire to cooperate in the United States, spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry Hua Chunying told a regular briefing Monday.

https://tass.com/world/1245979

"As I understand the direct reason behind Moscow’s decision to initiate the procedure to exit the Treaty on Open Skies was the US unilateral pullout despite the international position. It significantly undermined bilateral trust between the armed forces of the two countries and transparency between the sides," she noted.

"Russia tries to preserve the treaty but did not receive any positive reaction from the US or other parties to the treaty," the diplomat underlined.

"For a long time now, the US has stuck to the Cold War mentality and the America first policy, simultaneously leaving multilateral agreements and international organizations which affects the international arms control regime and disarmament. Facts show that a bright future can be secured through dialogue and cooperation rather than unilateral policies. China is calling on the US to listen to concerns of the international community and take measures to maintain global strategic stability, peace and security in the region and beyond," the spokesperson concluded.
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On January 15, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced that Russia launches withdrawal from the Treaty on Open Skies. Other parties will receive the relevant notification when the domestic procedures are completed.

Washington was accusing Russia of selective compliance with the treaty and violation of a number of the treaty clauses for several years. Russia has its own complaints to Washington regarding the treaty implementation. In 2017, Washington announced introduction of certain restrictions against Russian surveillance flight over the US territory, causing Russia to respond in a mirror-like fashion. The US pulled out from the Open Skies Treaty on November 22.
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>>773067
>selective compliance with the treaty
That's a nice way to say they just never gave a fuck. Same as the USA.

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>These nihilist anfiaggots have NO IDEA how fucking many of them are going to be arrested in the next 72 hours:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13776613/antifa-clash-trump-fans-inauguration-day-riots/

ANTIFA are planning clashes with pro-Trump supporters at Inauguration Day riots, flyers reveal.

The events are being organised to confront pro-Trump protesters who are headed to capitols across the US.Cities have readied themselves for the threat of violence by erecting barriers and deploying thousands of National Guard troops ahead of the inauguration of Joe Biden.

But counter demonstrations are now being planned for Seattle, Portland, Denver and Sacramento.

Flyers for events circulating were highlighted by conservative journalist Andy Ngo who is a fierce critic of Antifa and has posted videos of violent clashes its supporters have been involved in.

He tweeted: “#Antifa are continuing to put out the call for riots throughout the U.S. on 20 Jan. These are some of their flyers for Seattle, northern California & Denver.” Ngo also pointed to an event organised by the Pacific Northwest Youth Liberation Front. The group was last year blamed for playing a major role in the months of unrest in Portland.According to the Seattle Times the group was “emerging as a persistent militant voice” in the city.The paper reported that the group has anonymous leaders and considers itself anti-fascist and anti-capitalist with its goal the overthrowing of the US political system. Earlier this month, in a foretaste of what could unfold, Antifa used chemical spray on pro-Trump supporters, who had gathered for a march. As the two sides squared up to each on the boardwalk in Pacific Beach, California, video shows a black clad Antifa supporter pulling out a canister and spraying the MAGA fans.
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>>773180
And now the left have installed the guy who used to brag he wrote the Patriot Act as POTUS. Good times. the transition to third world shithole is almost complete.
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>>772859
Furries.
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NGO? Really?

And chilling? Wow conservative snowflakes are shaking right now.
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>>773184
This. The only real reason Hitler came to power was the rise of communism and its obvious threat toward regular people. All the Weimar-tier degenerate shit gave almost no momentum to the Nazis compared to the KPD.
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>>773184
Antifa and white supremacists are being used as boogeymen to control you

On Sunday 13:30 a train ran on a snowmobile whit a sleigh in Söråker outside Timrå

According to the police, a total of four people were involved, all traveling on the scooter and the associated sleigh
It is the sleigh that has been hit by the train

Two girls aged 14 and 19 was sitting in the sled and died in connection with the accident

It is an unguarded railway crossing, where the scooter would pass and the train arrived at the same time

There are a number of unfortunate circumstances that caused this accident to occur

There is also no suspicion that any of the driver was drunk at the time of the accident

The driver wrote on his facebook
-Yesterday what should not happen happened, I was inattentive in the worst of seconds.

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Don't play chicken with a train
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The sign was covered whit snow and the signal turns off when a train is about to come Its verry hard to understand when you should pass the scooter didnt get hit so maybe he Saw the train and he put full gas but it was icy and he didnt move that good So the train hit the sled
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We're having threads about traffic accidents now?
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I bet T-rump somehow involved in this.
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>>773463
I heard he orchestrated it with Russia and the NRA

Poll finds majority back charging Trump for inciting Capitol riot

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/534498-poll-majority-says-trump-should-be-charged-for-inciting-capitol-riot

A Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 54 percent of Americans believe President Trump should be charged with inciting a riot for the mob that stormed the Capitol last week.

A majority of people in the poll believe Trump should be charged, and 56 percent said Trump should be removed from office and not allowed to run again.

However, there was a stark difference between Democrats and Republicans over whether Trump should be allowed to run for the White House again.
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https://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-crushed-door-trump-191032769.html
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>>770978
Babbit was 35? Legit thought she was between 45-50.
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What do you guys think the mentally ill obcessed t-rump faggot is gonna do from next month onwards?
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>>773242

IMA GONNA CELEBRATE YOUR DEMISE FUCKHEAD !!!!!!!!!
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>>773444
fucking lol

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-biden-first-100-days-actions/
>Repealing tax cuts: In order to pay for many of these wish list items, Mr. Biden said he would fight for the repeal of the 2017 tax cuts, which would require action by Congress. He argued that the tax cuts favored wealthy Americans.
The trump tax cuts cut taxes on 2/3rds of all Americans
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/business/economy/income-tax-cut.html
>Guns: After the FBI studies "loopholes" in the gun background check system, Mr. Biden said he would ask Congress to close the "loopholes"
Private sales were a negotiated compromise as part of the brady bill and make up a negligible number of guns used in crimes. Only 8 in every 1000 guns used in crimes were obtained via a gun show. Most guns used in crimes are stolen or straw purchased.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf
>" and also repeal liability protection for gun manufacturers, which would allow Americans to sue the gun industry if a gun is used in a crime.
Because we can sue Ford everytime someone drunk drives and we can sue victorinox whenever someone is stabbed. This is an attempt to kill gun manufacturers via lawyer fees for frivolous lawsuits. Gun makers are liable for if their product blows up and harms the user due to not being safe.
>Biden also said he wants to "restructure" federal agencies that oversee gun laws.
Fuck the ATF
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>>773402
The ATF has been "interpreting" laws multiple ways on it's own. Why wouldn't it be a court that forces them to follow the law or maintain how they interpret it?

>>773400
The pistol brace issue may not hold up under scrutiny. Clearly people are using them as stocks and shouldering them. However the ATF made their decision that this was OK, they shouldn't be able to reverse it now to try to force millions of people to register under the NFA. I'd like to believe bringing up how retarded the NFA items are would lead to it's repeal, but I'm sure it will be spun as "keep these even scarier guns off our streets." Meanwhile an AK with a 4" barrel and no stock is legal because the ATF classifies it as a pistol.
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>>773405
>bipartisan legislative and judicial efforts.
Holy fuck don't make me erect, anon
R and D are simply symbols of religious adherents right now
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>>772952
I don't care about guns and I won't even notice the tax change. Great.
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>>773414
>Meanwhile an AK with a 4" barrel and no stock is legal because the ATF classifies it as a pistol.
Gun laws are so stupid, sometimes, it's almost like they are being sabotaged from the inside...

But, the effort is more for theatre than effect. They usually just want to *look* like they are doing something, which is so often true of government in general - not that the nation doesn't need that, to one degree or another, but it sure is damned annoying sometimes.

>>773416
There's always constant internal debate as to what they people will swallow - but as people get more afraid and desperate, so do the parties, and yes, and this sometimes makes them blind to each other, as well as easy to manipulate.
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On a somewhat unrelated subject can anyone please tell me why New York is trying to pass a law banning and confiscating body armor?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich-settlement.html

On Oct. 12, 2020, Fox News agreed to pay millions of dollars to the family of a murdered Democratic National Committee staff member, implicitly acknowledging what saner minds knew long ago: that the network had repeatedly hyped a false claim that the young staff member, Seth Rich, was involved in leaking D.N.C. emails during the 2016 presidential campaign. (Russian intelligence officers, in fact, had hacked and leaked the emails.)

Fox’s decision to settle with the Rich family came just before its marquee hosts, Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity, were set to be questioned under oath in the case, a potentially embarrassing moment. And Fox paid so much that the network didn’t have to apologize for the May 2017 story on FoxNews.com.

But there was one curious provision that Fox insisted on: The settlement had to be kept secret for a month — until after the Nov. 3 election. The exhausted plaintiffs agreed.

Why did Fox care about keeping the Rich settlement secret for the final month of the Trump re-election campaign? Why was it important to the company, which calls itself a news organization, that one of the biggest lies of the Trump era remain unresolved for that period? Was Fox afraid that admitting it was wrong would incite the president’s wrath? Did network executives fear backlash from their increasingly radicalized audience, which has been gravitating to other conservative outlets?

Fox News and its lawyer, Joe Terry, declined to answer that question when I asked last week. And two people close to the case, who shared details of the settlement with me, were puzzled by that provision, too.
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>>773307
>Instead the fucking Democrats steal the election,
How?
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>>773307
>All we wanted were free and fair elections
And you got them according ro DHS, DOJ, Republican State election officials (many avowed Trump supporters, and 60+ court cases decided by Dem, Repub and Trump judges.

The only one saying differently is your 2 yo toddler in chief who started claiming the only possible way he could lose was through fraud even months before the election. His temper tantrum was shamelessly echoed by Republican Senators and Representatives who in fact, knew the election was fair and there was no widespread fraud.

The fact that you magat cultists have been hoodwinked by a con man carnival barking grifter, who cares about nothing other than himself, is on you. You absolute tool.
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Right wing clowns were seething endlessly about MSM unfavorably covering the magahat boy and now they're desperately trying to derail the thread when Fox news does something worse and tries to cover it up harder. Typical.
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>>773314
>Corporations can’t butt fuck you in court by waiting out the clock with their infinite money for lawyers vs whatever you have in savings
Come on now.
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>>772579
Right: they "believe" they're not full of shit. That's the whole reason they're more dangerous.

Dominion Voting Systems, one of the biggest U.S. election equipment manufacturers and the subject of numerous incoherent conspiracy theories after the 2020 election, has sued lawyer Sidney Powell, who represented President Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the election’s results, for defamation. Dominion is requesting damages of more than $1.3 billion, saying it has spent millions on security for its employees and damage control to its reputation, and risks losses of future business.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/dominion-sues-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-defamation-seeks-1-3-n1253464?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Read the full lawsuit, it's a blast.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.225699/gov.uscourts.dcd.225699.1.0_2.pdf
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>>773329
>I think this is where we disagree i am completely convinced that there will be no improvement without fear.
Well, first off, I should say I have a personal distaste for ruling through fear, however effective it can be. You do need to highlight past mistakes and what can be improved, but fear generated beyond that laser focus, just causes confusion and clouds minds while fermenting rebellion.

>Correct me if I'm wrong but if memory serves it was the 2000 Election and the resulting fallout that led to Florida improving their system though admittedly it's already quite a while since i looked into that specific issue.
Florida carried out a LOT of reforms, though the core of the problem was actually one Bush borrowing another Bush’s felon hit-list, and applying any first or last names that matched to the voter registration (removing ~100K registrants - the winning difference being ~500). Too rich to be attacked directly for it, under this system, which protects its rich to avoid fermenting rebellion among them, as it does all its citizens to one degree or another, if mostly via corrupt meritocracy, Nonetheless regulations were re-written to prevent such an abuse to the system happening the same way again.

There’s always more bugs to patch in this game’s development though, and every time we fix one bug, we tend to create a bunch of more interesting ones, so heads do need to be calm, clear, and united, when we mess with the code.

A general malaise of mutual distrust and fear is not always conducive to that, you only need enough concern to double check other's work.
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>>773329
>I don't believe, if we are talking about the same kind of people, are interested in the carrot unless it comes from a source that feeds their bias.
It’s a matter of what’s palatable to their current appetite for self preservation. For instance, the left nearly started going after illegal employers (Biden’s plan), instead of the immigrants, and the right wrote up a plan to rely on Bush Jr.’s popularity with the Hispanics, while attacking Obama’s deportation record (tossed in the fire, after Trump’s first debate).

You do need the stick from time to time, but eventually, you end up hitting the people instead of the issues, and at that point, they will fight against their own interests and goals, simply because they came out of your mouth. (Ask anyone who has successfully raised a teenager. It is just a simple core function of the human mind, to rebel against angry parents - and it’s one you don’t want to put an end to, as it’s also core to avoiding various horrors, and forces their parents to mature as well, allowing the family's bond to deepen as conflicts are resolved.)

Political parties in their group think, often act like angry children, - treat them as such when they do, rather than as an enemy to be eliminated. Ideas cannot be killed, they can only be allowed to ferment and boil over, as they are wielded by those seeking power. Caring only by equal exchange is not always an option, and one does not want to encourage a party to become the worst of themselves in their fear and anger.

“Fear is the path to the dark side” - also beer goggles.
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>>773332
>Being reasonable proficient with the /g/ aspect of the issue i believe making the machines fully open source would be an essential step, it would with one swoop eliminate the whole "Dominion changed votes" claim.
Agreed... Also think we need to make any USB access to the devices proprietary and hard to reproduce, and tracked like they were nuclear briefcases. They do need Internet access to be effective, but it should be at the hardware rigged to be one way with a unique secure protocol, even if that means they cannot verify with handshakes beyond the carrier. Both those things are expensive to develop though.

However, the paleoconservative in me would really rather we just went back to paper ballots. It took longer, but they were a lot more secure and easier for people to understand. ...and the mail in ballots I suspect, in this case, are the bigger problem. The Dominion machines, with their printed receipts and anonymized end user verification option, were a vast improvement over the ones the Diebold company they ate had been producing before.

Kinda wish we could do away with anonymous voting altogether, and solve nearly everything surrounding this issue in one fell swoop, but it’s obviously there for a reason. We are not ready for that level of agreeing to disagree, and even if we were one day, no guarantee we would always be so.
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>>773351
>I should say I have a personal distaste for ruling through fear,
You misunderstood me, i don't mean rule through fear i meant it more in the way that it has to be made clear that the system is faulty, which would inherently stoke distrust and fear in the people, instead of pretending it's perfectly fine because that's what the current rhetoric is.
The first step to improvement is the recognition of a problem even if that problem has horrible implications.
>>773356
I don't think we are referring to the same issue i was pointing towards people who blindly base their worldview on what their preferred news source says. (and admittedly i kinda fucked up my sentence in general)
My point is the news sources are an inherent part of the dynamic that keeps the populous in check.
And as it stands we have little to no incentive we can offer to make them change both the sources and the people who blindly rely on them, the people may be persuaded personally speaking but the news sources are outside of the reach of normal people, meaning the carrot is not an option as far as i can see.
>>773358
>and tracked like they were nuclear briefcases
Absolutely agreed, tho i personally am opposed to proprietary technology in this matter, history has shown that no proprietary technology ends up secure or unreproduced, in my opinion it would be better to instead limit any kind of interaction period.
Admittedly i do not have access to how the setup on the ground is but from what i can tell the ideal would be to have technicians set up the machines and connect them to whatever is dealing with the votes in the backend, and then plain seal everything instead of allowing unvetted people to potentially gain access to the machines.
As it stands poll workers have too much access to the machines as far as i'm concerned.
>those things are expensive to develop though.
I read somewhere that the reason dominion got the contract is because they were the cheapest offer, which was to be expected.
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>>773358
>we just went back to paper ballots.
To be perfectly honest i agree with this stance, as ideal as computerized systems are, the minimum required investment for their security is on a level no government is going to bother implementing, which is also why i fear that governments are going to implement internet voting which would in my opinion be the end of any kind of legitimate election due to the impossibility to actually secure those systems.
>and the mail in ballots I suspect, in this case, are the bigger problem.
From what i can tell the biggest issue with mail in ballots is how they are not beholden to the same standards as normal ballots which is admittedly an inherent issue with the concept, which is why nearly all civilized countries keep it strictly limited.
>and even if we were one day
I can't see how we ever would be but
>Kinda wish we could do away with anonymous voting altogether
This might be inevitable purely based on the reality of how big tech is analyzing our data.
I wouldn't be surprised if google & co would be capable of predicting who someone votes for with a 90+% likelihood.

Donald Trump loss will lead to 'rise of the Kingdom of Antichrist' - Conspiracy theory
DONALD Trump's US election loss will lead to the creation of the Kingdom of the Antichrist, christian conspiracy theorists have warned.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1361365/donald-trump-election-loss-conspiracy-theory-Antichrist-evg

Is it conceivable, that Melania Trump is in fact a Russian agent ...
www.quora.com Is-it-conceivable-that-Melania-Trump-i...
Spies aren't that well paid to risk the nice and sure settlement and I doubt there is ... of cards from tumbling down he is dependent on loans from foreign banks.
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She doesn't like crap games, with barons and earls
Won't go to Harlem, in ermines and pearls
And I definitely won't dish out dirt, with the rest of those girls (Thank-you)
That's why the lady is a tramp
I love the free, fresh wind in my hair
Life without care, oh I'm so broke, it's old
I hate California, it's crowded and damp
That's why the lady is a tramp (I am a tramp)
Sometimes I go to Coney Island, oh the beach is divine
And I love the Yankees, Jeeter's just fine
I follow Rogers and Heart, she sings every line
That's why the lady is a tramp
I love a prizefight, that isn't a fake (no fakes)
I love to row boat with you and your wife on Central Park lake
She goes to Opera and stays wide awake (yes, I do)

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>>773230
Bad Medicine - Bon Jovi
Better Than That - Marina
Black Widow - Booty Luv
Black Widow - Cage the Elephant
Black-Hearted Woman - The Allman Brothers Band
Blank Space - Taylor Swift
Can't Trust Thots - Wash
Cold As Ice - Foreigner
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay & the Americans
Dangerous - Roxette
Dangerous - Kardinal Offishall
Dangerous - James Blunt
Dear Tragedy - Bayside
Denver Haircut - The Hold Steady

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>>773250

WEIRD UNNATURAL PLASTIK i SURGERY DESTINED FOR SAG
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>>773263
VAGINAL TIGHTENING SURGERY NEVER GET USED EXCEPT BY HAIRBRUSH HANDLE
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>>773368

IT AINT RIGHT TO WRITE ALL THE CLASSY GOP 1ST LADIES IN THE SAME SENTENCE PARAGRAPH AS THIS WRETCHED DISGUSTING FOREIGN SPY,

NOT TO MENTION ALL THE SUPER CLASSY DEMOCRATIC 1ST LADIES

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-pardons-final-days/2021/01/17/7a57969c-5905-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html
I really wish he'd just do a blanket pardon for all non-violent drug offenders or just mandate marijuana is not a criminal drug at the federal level
why can't he just do one thing I asked for end his presidency on a good note and just decrease the american prison population by a lot
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>>773275
Then compose a coherent argument, if you think I cannot read. I explained myself completely. If the answer is so obvious, then someone say it. I need answers too, you presumptuous faggot.
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>>773233
Why would he pardon people he doesn't care for?
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>>773233
He didn't order it. Stop being so deluded.
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>>773385
>He didn't order it.
True, Putin did. Trump just carried out his puppet masters orders.
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>>773424
You
Are
Fucking
Retarded




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