Get 'em on board I'll call it in Edition
No one here will ever have jet time.
>>1949821I will if i ever get a mf class date
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>>1949821war thunder air rb is not jet time
dont want to give too many details because i guess this is probably rare enough these days that someone could figure it out.but one of our local DPE's, and really the only one who does IR and PPLs, has started getting really nasty. not going to get into specifics, but he's interpreting the ACS extremely loosely and applying it in such a way that basically any 50-100 hour pilot isn't going to pass. so yes, applicants are failing to stay within tolerances, but he's asking for diversion to VOR's while under the hood then flunking them when they "deviate" by 20 degrees or +/-10kts when trying to dial up their nav radio.maybe acceptable for commerical, and definitely fine for CFI students, but at the private level? shit like climbing turns while under the hood? tell me i'm not off-base here and that this guy isn't fishing for re-test fees.
>>1949911just give your DPE a blow job and you'll pass dumbass, it's not hard
>>1949911kek is your DPE still out to get you?
>>1949911Whats the issue?
>>1949947>>1949911
>>1949821When are we finally going to quit the foreplay and compare dicks already? Smaller has to blow the other?
how many of you are in debt from training
I've started studying for my first checkride. I'm more worried about the ground knowledge check than the practical test. Any anons have a good resources that helped them? I have the oral exam guide I've read and am going to read a few more times. I'm able to get 2/3 or more of available answers however I want to be able to know I know the answer or know how to find it easily.
>>1949959literally everyone that doesn't have rich parents anon. even if you pay the ppl yourself you'll still need a giant fucking loan
>>1949963just rote memorize the test, I got a 91% on my ppl written after a couple days of studying, it's a joke.
>>1949882Being racist will not get you jet time. >>1949911HAHAHA. Imagine failing a fucking check ride loser. Failed check ride means you'll never have jet time. >>1949959Jet time will pull you out of debt. Umfortunately, you'll never have jet time. >>1949963Spirit training manual on how to fly jet is all you need. >>1949966Rote memorization leads to jet time.
>>1949966I passed my written with a 93% four months ago. My problem is now I having trouble remembering all the things I need to prove I know for the oral test before flying.
>>1949971Fuck off back to plebbit nigger
>>1949971Coping non-jet time haver. >>1949978no u. Only jet time chads can use 4chan.
>>194997493%? Fucking pathetic. Spirit will never hire you and you'll never get jet time.
>>1949983>'ll never get jet timeThe only jet power I'm interested in is turboprops. No interest in in flying the poor peoples skybus.
Thread already off to a bad start. Abandon ship. See you niggers in a few months o7
>>1949992Loser attitude. You'll never get jet time. >>1949995Quitter. Good luck getting jet time being a quitter.
>invest heavily into stealth technology so nobody can find your jet>lose itThis is the funniest timeline.
>>1949821jokes on you, an F-35 just landed in MY backyard, and finders keepers says its ALL mine.
>>1950013>fantasizing about jet time he'll never have.
>>1949821>>1949873>>1949971>>1949982>>1949983>>1950003>>1950024The force from the thrust of my jet propelled my fuselage into your mom's Class Golf-spot, if can pick up what I'm laying down(ur mom)? Best jet time I ever had.
>>1950035Your whore mother doesn't have jet time and neither do you.
>>1950041Seething
thread destroyed. strongly considering doxxing the spirit pilot who has ruined this general with his shitposting.
I watched a private jet pilot walk through his routine on yt once. Most boring thing I've ever seen in my life. You're an actual retarded faggot if you think "jet time" in planes is cool and worth flexing on an anonymous image board. "Jet time" https://youtu.be/eiM0sauF43s?feature=shared"Junk r22" https://youtu.be/IOyIobOJf0A?feature=sharedYOU FUCKED UP YOUR LIFE BRO. AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1950012literally a sitcom situation
>>1950090Don't diss my bro owen, I make sure to heckle him every chance I get on krhv tower when he's around
>>1950123>the flying is the most boring part of the videohow do airplane fags cope?
how long did it take you to finish your training up to atp?
>>1949971>>1949983Spirit guy really got to you, huh? I'm in awe
>>1950056Doxxing won't get you jet time. >>1950090Seethe more since you don't have jet time hahaha. >>1950092It happened because politicians don't have jet time.>>1950141They get jet time. >>1950186I'll post proof I work at Spirit. I have proof. You don't have jet time.
>>1950199kek, three threads ago you got called out for being a poser and you've gone on a sperg posting jet time rampage ever since. anon this is not normal behavior
the Spiritfag confirmed himself that he's the jet time faggot? If only he had as many type ratings as I do, then he'd be on to something.
How difficult is it to go to a PA-28 after a C-172 PPL? Is it something you can pick up on during IR training or would you need separate transition lessons?
>>1950241>MacBook with Touchbar>Shit taste in alcoholic beverages + being an alcoholic scum >Plastic zoomer tier choice of pistol>Extremely gay stickers used to hide confidential informations>No cursive writing
>>1950244You can pick it up during IR training. 2-3 hours max. PA-28 is a forgiving airplane. It's easier to land due to the lower wing riding ground effect better. Be careful about that wing spar issue.
>>1950218cargofag?
Passed my private today. Absolute crush-job, painted the thousand footers on my short field right dead center, even the DPE was impressed and made a comment.Quite a humbling feeling bros. I guess I can just go fly a plane now? Kind of hard to believe.For those of you wondering what a PPL costs right now. Took me 72 hours and a little over $20,000. That includes everything, from the whiz wheel to my iPad to foreflight to medical and all those hours. Onto instrument, I start with the hood tomorrow.
>>1950267i'm about to start ppl lessons next month and i'm nervous as fuck about all the testing involved. what did you study and how much time did you spend studying? i'm already the majority of the way done with sporty's ground school to get an idea of what i'm in for
>>1950300Know the PHAK and FARs. I memorized the ACS too, just so I knew what I had to do and could verbalize during manuevers. Knowing the ACS also allowed me to steer the oral a lot, I'd seriously recommend it once you are in that stage where you're checkride prepping. No use doing it before you solo.It has basically been my life the last fifty-ish days. I ran through checklists and recited acronyms in the car all the time. In terms of hours studied? No idea, but it was definitely a lot.the written feels like an irrelevant, ancient memory. so does solo'ing. not saying you shouldn't take it seriously, but you are going to be held to a vastly higher knowledge standard on your checkride vs. when you sit the written.
>>1950304cont. I am sure PPL will soon feel the same as the written and solo do now. not really interested in staying at this level for long, but its a validating experience to conquer your first actual checkride. a definite feeling of total euphoria.
Should I commute from Argentina
>>1950241>macIt's all about status for you airline fags. Must be fun playing dress up in your uniforms ahahahaha, you fucked up your life brohttps://youtu.be/UpBB5dpTi5Y?feature=shared
>>1950241>ATP claim>no type ratings postedyou have no verifiable jet time>>1950248Formerly [Chuck's]
Should I try to become a bush pilot chad, or should I just give in and become another NPC airline chud?
>>1950365if you have to ask
>>1950365as an anon who has taken the road less traveled, it sucks ass. Fuck the road less traveled, it has shit pay and overworks you. The dream is only possible via an airline job to fund you buying a bush plane and becoming a weekend flier.
>>1950368>>1950371It's over. Billions must fly.
>>19503719/10 chance this is the retarded jet time spirit poster who seethes at basically everyone LARPing
>>1949821>>1949873>>1949971>>1949982>>1949983>>1950003>>1950024>>1950041>>1950199>>1950241Is this what no pussy and zero jet time does to a motherfucker? Spirit guy really made you mad.
>>1950374I lol'd
>>1950267No one cares about your reddit write up here. Only jet time matters. >>1950306If it means jet time, yes. >>1950371You're a dipshit for not takimg airline job which means jet time. >>1950387I have jet time motherfucker. You don't.
>>1950365join the military.
i used to genuinely enjoy this thread, pretty sad to see it just totally die
>>1950470Give it a few threads and it will be back to normal. Every new form of shitposting eventually gets old for the shitposter.
>>1950403I would be a zogbot bootlicker for the rest of my days if they let me fly f-16’s or f-22’s
>>1950403>join the military.
>>1950403if the retard pedophiles that run this country get us into a hot war and i get drafted i'm literally going to desert and live the rest of my life in some random obscure country in asia or the middle east
>>1950531you fly for like one hour a month and spend that whole time practicing emergency procedures.
>>1950575Rest of the time you’re flying a desk going through sexual harassment and anti-white training.
>>1950542Did that get sucked into the intake of the one that went down in florida?
>>1950267>Took me 72 hours and a little over $20,000Congrats anon. Inflation is a motherfucker. In 2015 it took me 82 hours but only cost me $10k. God damn fucking kikes
>>1950402>I have jet time motherfucker. You don't.Kek but you didn’t deny no pussy. Why did NK anon make you seethe uncontrollably?
Very mildly autistic and I’m flying jets now. I think this and being good at fps video games gives me an unfair advantage over everyone else
is it better to do private pilot training in fall-winter months or spring-summer?
>>1951055>he doesn't live in florida or arizona
>>1951086>arizonalove cooking at 100 degrees in my C172 for 3 months
>>1951086It was 110F for three straight weeks here in Albuquerque where it also is 100% convective after 11am every day and I had to tolerate this for several hours every dayAbsolute horseshit, I miss my new England flying at least there it was clearly IFR when the weather was bad and I could have the day off without question or sitting around to see if the winds pick up or notOn top of that it's regularly 9000+ density altitude and I'm still expected to teach people in a 150? Why do we even have this thing here?Basically fuck the desert and hot climates in general
>>1951055Do it year round, the more expirience you have the better. I would say start in spring so you can get the majority of your training done during the summer then as winter encroaches you can polish stuff like crosswinds on a short soft and other more interesting stuff. That's just my take though, probably not correct way to go about it.
I can't believe Chris is gone. How the fuck does that even happen. It wasn't even during the race. It wasn't in a formation. It was a fucking traffic pattern midair. Still in disbelief.
>>1951099>excellent crosswind experience>lots of turb, get used to it, don't be a bitch>engine oil temperature management>taxi with windows/door open like a ChadDesert flying is ez and comfy
>>1950568youre never touching the controls of an aircraft anyway, so why worry?
>>1951135Wot u on about. I'm doing alright here
>get base in colorado>already high-ish cost of living>also state income taxdeath
>>1951099You get to log flight time every day what’s the issue?
>>1951815>laughs in SFOit's either this or Newark and I'm this close to an hero
>>1951940I’m from the bay so I’m hoping to get based here when I move on from my current gig to a certain major. Living outside the bay is affordable, I love it here so I’d like to come back
i will never have jet time
>>1952006You will if you believe in yourself
>>1951948faggot
>>1952072Poor dumb nigger
>>1952006at this rate I will never have instrument time, it's extremely over for me
>>1952076Cleared 200k last year my nigga. Enjoy your shit filled streets and pride parades jew
>>1952110enjoy that money in your dogshit flyover state.
how many of you know how to use one of these
>>1952205I still mostly do, however a CX-3 is far better since it can be used on the written and makes the whole process much easier. Most apps do these calculations for you though.
how terrible does your community need to be that even cyclists seem like better people than you
>>1952205Give me 15 minutes and the instruction manual and I'll back to full competency in no time.
>>1952205the thing literally tells you how to use it though, front and back
>>19522111- You have no jet time2- Your opinion is irrelevant and discarded 3- Kill yourself now
>>1952205I’ve used a 1986 paper one since day 1
>>1952211Its just one buttfrustrated sim "pilot". He got upset that actual airline Chads laughed at him for larping as a pilot and he's been on an autistic rampage for almost a month straight.
>>1952226post type ratings or seethe, I swear I'm considering becoming a tripfag just to own the jet time fag
>>1952231I'd peg it more at 6+ months. He's been assmad for a while.
What’s everyone’s favorite flying beverage? Can’t go wrong with a monster
>>1952312>argyle socksgayyyyyyy
>>1952319>knowing the name of sock patternsWho’s really gay?
>>1952312I don't drink caffeine when I fly. Had enough close calls as it is where I was pinching my dick closed and sprinting to the bathroom after I ended the lesson early. That shit is dangerous
>>1952312>"Yes goy, zero sugar! Keep drinking our poison, I mean our healthy beverage!"Pathetic
>>1952312you do know the monster logo is 666 in israeli numerals right?
>>1952334We're on 4chan, we all know that.
>>1952332Do you honestly believe that anyone who drinks monster considers it healthy?
Where can I go to have a le heckin ADVENTEROUS job in aviation? I want to fuck around for a few years instead of just going straight to the airlines. I feel like I wasted my earlier years already and I want to enjoy myself a bit.
>>1952402I can only speak as the Ameriflightfag, but if you want part 135 cargo """adventure""" it's an option. One of the most dangerous planes in semi common use is the Metroliner (SA-227) and if you seek an adventure that sucks balls at every turn as well as easy multi engine turbine PIC time flown as single pilot IFR under steam gauges with or without autopilots and often without GPS of any kind, that is available. I do not recommend it, but it is an option.Note: you may have to start on a BE99 before being able to hold a Metro if you're coming from a pure piston/CFI background.
Wtf is the point of being an airline pilot when hot girls roll their eyes when I’m not the guy at the bar. Atleast I like doing this shit lmao.
>>1952420>Atleast I like doing this shit lmao.That. That is the point.
>>1952420>Imagine doing something (flying or anything else) only to get women attentionJesus Christ
>>1952412Walk me through your typical on-GPS flight with them like what are you doing between VORs when you don't have reception from the TO or FROM VOR en route? I assume they are at least ADF ad DME equipped. What kind of quirks can you expect from the Metrolinner?
>>1952412WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU HIRE 'BRO FO's NIGGER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>1952451Just a note, outside of exceptions like a Metro needs to be at a certain base of Mx, etc, all GPS Metros belong to charter and San Juan. If you're flying a UPS or DHL route for a regularly scheduled non-island flight, you'll usually be /A (VOR/VOR/DME). So, generally on a scheduled op, you'll show in the 5-6am range, preflight and possibly reposition your aircraft to another ramp. Sit around and wait for cargo. Fly the stuff, usually within a 45-90min range area, and unload the shit. Then you'll go to our day layover motel and sleep all day there. Around 4-6pm, you'll start the evening run and load up and come back to base. Some runs have multiple legs in the am, or the pm. For the charter op, you'll show at your assigned start time and sit in the ready for for hours. If you don't get assigned, go home, come back tomorrow. If you get assigned you start the plane and either fly empty to pick up the cargo, or your cargo is already at the airport and load up and go. The metro has very long long legs and is quite fast for it's 16k pound MTOW if properly fueled. You'll fly into place with little to no support, single OR two pilot in the middle of the night or day. Real cowboy shit. Last year, one of the charter flights ran into a golf course on final and lost both wings in the fight, pilot error according to the NTSB.>>1952463Because they get sold as a default to United Aviate and UPS Flightpath people first. The best way to weasel your way into it is to bombard a recruiters dick with your resume and say nice things like "I would just LOVE to work for a GREAT and PROFESSIONAL company like AMFlight!!!" I've met a few dudes who played that game and got a job that way. DO NOT ACCEPT A FO POSITION IN THE METRO, Saab or E120 only.
>>1952451>what do you do between VORs with no receptionThat'd put you into class 2 navigation, which AMF isn't legal for without a GPS. You won't be doing this, though in practice it happens all the time. Get creative. ATC often clears you to fixes and you will say "Unable, I'm slant Alpha (/A)" and the they'll groan and vector you on a heading to intercept the Victor Airway or direct to a VOR. The Metro uses the TPE-331 engine, which is an amazing engine on paper, but a shitpile to operate with. 1,000hp with low fuel burn. They're a bitch to start and require a GPU in almost all cases. They only produce usable thrust from 96-100% RPM/N1, and they're extremely loud. The Metro doesn't have good brakes. No matter how hard you stand on the brakes, they're horribly weak. I cannot stress to you how weak they are, you won't understand it unless you tried to use them. The Metro has electro-hydraulic nosewheel steering that often fails completely, or will send you in an unintended direction. I have friends who have wound up in the grass. The steering system is horrid, especially paired with horrid brakes. The rudder is undersized for the length of airplane, so the X-wind limit is low and directional control is wonky. There is no autofeather, if you lose a motor after V1, you'll need to instantly recognize and feather the correct engine (AMF rules say 400' AGL). The Metros are certified to fly in excess of 30k ft, but most can't hold more than 0.5psi of cabin pressure. Know each Metro tail, because that'll determine how high you can fly, I'm not kidding that I would be limited to 12,000ft because that's where my Metro would hit 10,000ft cabin pressure. The Metro body is weak, and even if you're within floor loading and individual bay limits, with the cargo door (rear door) open you may have to get a group of dudes to physically push the Metro tail up to unbend the plane so you can close the door. This is just a slice of it, the Metro is a widowmaker. I loved it.
>>1952463To specify, if you weasel into a E120 or Saab FO job, don't accept a change to a Metro FO job. The company is putting legally trained and qualified FOs in the Metro, but unless the duty day is 8.1-10 hours of flight time, the FO gets to log none of that time legally. The company pretends this isn't the case, and the FAA POI is a pussy who lets it slide. Don't have hundreds of hours with non-kosher flight time in your logbook like I do. It's not legal or ethical for them to do it. A Metro FO is not a required crewmember outside of specific circumstances, and AMF doesn't have the new SIC PDP program from 2018 because then their FOs would have legal time and be able to leave them sooner. Don't ask me about the training contracts, I straight up do not know. I never signed one, and never will. I left AMF a while ago, good riddance to them.
