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Infrastructure costs edition.
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Matt Yglesias on widespread YIMBY successes across the country. You don’t hear about all of them because they’re taking place in midwestern towns, but there’s enough of them that it’s gonna have a noticeable impact.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/yimbys-keep-winning

> I used to keep track of individual YIMBY policy wins, but at a certain point I stopped because there were just too many.
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>>1938512
Urban planning dictates transportation, cope.
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>>1938515
>You don’t hear about all of them because they’re taking place in midwestern towns
Good, keep it there
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>>1938515
>Matt Yglesias
Pathetic that he is who you have to lean on
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And the seething begins.

Glad to see YIMBY laws becoming widespread in both coastal states and the Midwest.
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>>1938574
Here is your saint
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>>1938512
Tourist/outsider here. I don't get it. Why would talking about cities be bad in this board and why would it be /pol/-related?
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>>1939062
Oil and auto influence managed to convince "conservatives" to conserve absolutely nothing, to bulldoze history and culture in favor of asphalt.
Unfortunately, most of the voice from the other side comes from insufferable liberals and leftists, which makes conservatives go full contrarian retard. Neocons would drink bleach if leftists supported not drinking bleach in the way they usually do.
It's now a culture war front. Any discussion of it is seen as politically charged, no matter how empirical the discussion is.
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>>1938515
citing matt "nowhere outside the nec should have rail" yglesias
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>>1939086
you can't just keep posting this schizo argument when noone says this. you are literally creating some strawman of urbanists who only want skyscrapers when I have never seen anyone say that. let me guess you think apartments are "too dense" and we need to slow down so anyone who disagrees is a developer shill?
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>>1939119
I don't know why I would be against apartments considering I live in one and all I'm asking for is for sanctimonious greedy YIMBYs to stop telling me how to live. Do urbanists understand that it is possible for people to live in buildings bigger than a McMansion, but smaller than One57?
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>>1939122
yes, and my point is noone here is saying that and you are seething about nothing.
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>>1939062
Due to the 2 disingenuous bad takes to your post. I would say Urban Planning fits in with Transportation because without good zoning you have no good transportation to accommodate it. Look at a lot of the country where 98% of America you need a car to do anything and it's by design due to zoning laws from small towns to small cities. Everything looks the same and causes atomization yet it could be stopped and it does not need to be political it should be bipartisan but political parties need polarization to justify their existence whether they saved one segment or hurt another segment than to just cater to both.
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>>1938510
Honestly small Towns and small cities should pass Mixed Use Zoning Laws and Fund TOD, reduced parking minimums starting out before they begin to grow massively. Not saying it's impossible to do as as we are seeing states and even large cities support it because SFH and Car Centrism came back to haunt them later on with a housing crisis and lost tax revenue, low ridership.
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>>1939195
>pretend you are not angry
I'm not pretending to be not angry, I am angry. You people need to stop subverting this board with politics.
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>>1939121
>Urban planning is inherently political, because it makes cagetrolls/YIMBYs/boomers/zoomers/cyclists get all worked up
>Urban planning is not inherently transportation-related, because it only affects transportation MOST of the time
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>>1939198
>Zoning is literally public policy that is set and amended by politicians
And transportation is not?
Zoning, which dictates that the nearest business from my house be distinctly segregated from my neighborhood by an arterial, 2 miles away, does not affect how people go about their errands?

Do you like that stick up your ass?
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>>1939292
>Adverse weather affects transportation
My local government doesn't cause rain to disincentivize walking or cycling, they certainly do that with urban planning.

>The act of riding a bike or taking a train is not political.
Taking the train requires there to be reliable train service in the first place, which is political, and it requires stations and stops, which is urban planning.
Most people ride a bike based on local policy and infrastructure, which is urban planning, which you claim is political. The dutch ride bikes because it's safe and convenient to do so, they would not do the same anywhere else.

I really don't understand your point. Cycling and taking the train are not political, sure, but wanting better cycling infrastructure and reliable train service is?
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>>1939320
>My local government doesn't cause rain to disincentivize walking or cycling, they certainly do that with urban planning.
/n/ isn't your local town hall.
>Taking the train requires there to be reliable train service in the first place, which is political,
Taking a shit requires there to be reliable sewage infrastructure in the first place, which is political.
Politics is a broad and all-encompassing topic that should have no relevance when discussing a specific field that it just so happens to affect.
If you don't see the problem with making everything about politics just because everything is affected by politics, then I can only presume you're posting with malicious intent. I have nothing more to say on this matter.
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I am about to take 2-year urban planning major in the largest European city. Is it worth it? I have both humanities and engineering degree already, and I think of building a long-term career in urban field.

Due to huge shortage of labour in the urban planning field, I will be 100% employment in my country, that's not a problem. But is it a 'creative' field? Don't wanna be sucked into boring repetitive job.
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>>1939360
>If you don't see the problem with making everything about politics
You were the first one to clain that urban planning is political and, as such, belongs on /pol/ or at least doesn't relate to transportation enough to be on /n/.
The majority of people even remotely interested in urban planning are also massive tram and cycling autists. /o/ doesn't even have anything to say and /pol/ is a containement board. Give it a rest.
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>>1938510
https://youtu.be/OUNXFHpUhu8
>TFW Parking Mandates have no standard of efficiency and are made up pseudo science to sell more cars for unused parking spots
>TFW we created a monster that has been unchecked for close to 100 years and has lead to the housing crisis, small businesses dying, public transit being gutted, including animals dying on the road. Thus making Car the only mode to really move on for most of the US and also creating an unsustainable city funding model.
Not only should we get rid of Mandated Parking and roll this stuff back. But we need to tax Gas and charge more for Cars that are in the city to recoup back the loss of public transit funds that we spent for Cars instead of people this whole time.
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>>1939362
If you feel a passion for it and feel like you can change things go and do it. If you feel nothing about it but like it then do not do it.
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>>1939362
>is it a 'creative' field?
Well, I can only imagine you're going to be solving a lot of novel problems for infrastructure that already exists as well as infrastructure that doesn't exist. There's lot of natural and artificial constraints that would force some level of ingenuity on your behalf, unless you are given the budget to not have to.
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>>1938566
>>1939090
>>1939374
I love butthurt this guy is about Matt Yglesias.
That post didn’t even cite Yglesias on any issue, it just pointed out how many cities have been upzoning. It’s not something debatable.
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>>1939410
Exactly.

Fortunately a lot cities are getting rid of parking mandates.it’s impressive how fast the movement’s picking up steam.
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>>1938510
This seems like the thread to ask.
Why is whenever the topic of public transport is brought up it's always presented as some false dichotomy where you're either 100% cars and roads or 100% public transport and trains? Wouldn't it be far more realistic to have a combination of both? I see so many pie in the sky predictions about cities with no roads whatsoever because public transport trains exist but a city with no roads is stupid, is the fire department going to take the train to the fire? Are paramedics going to take the train and transport injured people to hospital by train? How is mail and package delivery supposed to work? Transportation of furniture and heavy equipment? Construction? Obviously roads are still necessary but at the same time not everyone can drive either and not everybody who can will want to, so why not both?
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>>1939559
Urban planning, therefore zoning, is indisputably and viscerally linked to transporation and deserves its own thread. Zoning is a part of urban planning and it masivelly affects transportation so the discussion stays here.
>go start your own altchan instead of shitting up this board.
You're just a whiny faggot who got convinced that this is a culture war issue and not an empirical field. Go back to your aviation and train autism containement threads where you can pretend none of this affects those fields.
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>>1939574
>Why is whenever the topic of public transport is brought up it's always presented as some false dichotomy where you're either 100% cars and roads or 100% public transport and trains?
The main issue is 98% of America just Cars and the main issue with car centrism is that people think of the car as an extension of themselves rather than just a thing they use to get to point a to point b, and everything has been designed with the car in mind rather than people in mind. If society was people centric you would have a mix of both, and this exists in Europe and Asia overall. Everyone can still drive but people have the option not to do so, and it also does make sense to question if Cars should be able to drive in places where a lot of people are living at. Trains, Bus's and Bikes were always made for people and the most efficient at moving society. Thousands of years of city planning has been modeled on this and shown it works. Europe and Asia are proof it works.
>is the fire department going to take the train to the fire? Are paramedics going to take the train and transport injured people to hospital by train? How is mail and package delivery supposed to work? Transportation of furniture and heavy equipment?
They just make vehicles smaller and keep a road open for that purpose in the middle for them to be able to do that
> How is mail and package delivery supposed to work? Transportation of furniture and heavy equipment?
Small vehicle or using a bike transport usually.
>Obviously roads are still necessary but at the same time not everyone can drive either and not everybody who can will want to, so why not both?
Tell that to the car centric Baby Boomer that tell all the people younger than them to get off their lawn and out of their backyard for even recommending transit and TOD when housing is underbuilt and this is the solution to the problem. You can not argue equality when it's obvious in America the scales favor cars that are treated better than people.
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>>1939460
I am noticing this as well. We just need to keep trying to push for more states to do it, and if not just achieve it at the local level. Also i do think there should be population amounts to not be able to restrict mixed zoning, and TOD developments in the future. Especially in America. 30k population or more at least should be unable to limit their sizes and unable to restrict what get's built. Prevent it before it becomes another of the same situation that is facing big cities and smaller ones all over the country.
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>>1939362
>I am about to take 2-year urban planning major in the largest European city.
Moscow?
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https://ggwash.org/view/90503/data-suggests-fears-of-old-georgetown-road-bike-lanes-causing-vehicle-traffic-nightmare-are-unfounded
>Build Protected Bike Lane aka Road Diet in a dangerous area where People and Cyclists kept getting killed in a small town
>"IT WILL CAUSE HUGE DELAYS! NOBODY WILL USE IT"
>Cycling goes up from 17 to 59 riders
>More parents begin to take their kids on the sidewalk including single mothers
>Delays traffic by 60 seconds then goes back to normal.
If this is not proof that Road Diets do not work i do not know what does.
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Starting my Masters in Urban Planning in September. Make fun of me as I try to bring change to the shitty cities of America
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>>1939574
>why does this discussion have to be so black and white
>presents a black and white argument in bad faith that makes a strange assumption that funding proper public transit and decreasing parking minimums etc. means "BUT DURR U MEAN FIREFIGHTERS AND DELIVERY DRIVERS GOTTA USE A BIKE AND TRAIN???"
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https://archive.is/DDxPN
>Knoxville Mayor Mayor Indya Kincannon is expected to proposed zoning changes that would make it easier to build missing middle housing.
>Silas Sloan reports that the mayor is focusing on residential density as the cost of housing around the Eastern Tennessee continues to rise.
>“The proposed changes, created in partnership with East Tennessee Realtors, should be presented to the Knoxville City Council and Knoxville-Knox County Planning Commission this fall, Kincannon said, with a goal of finalizing the changes by January 2024,” reports Sloan.
>Zoning reforms have been developing in Tennessee for a few years now as the state deals with swift growth and surging housing costs. Nashville reformed its parking requirements, setting parking maximums, in November 2022, for an example of a city achieving legislative reform prior to Knoxville’s explorations of missing middle housing.

Looks like Housing Reform is on the menu for more places in Tennessee. More Mixed use might be in the cards as well.
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>>1940018
Awesome. Keep us updated, Chang.
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>>1940024
This faggot rolled out of bed and started posting his schizoid chang meme. Really should just be a tripfag at this point
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>>1939574
4chan is full of immature, uneducated people so everything is polar opposites and extremes only. They don’t have the mental capacity or maturity to understand that there are no magic silver bullet solutions and that most problems in real life require pragmatic compromises like what you’re suggesting.
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>>1939617
You conserve the old ways of walking and cycling. You conserve the health of yourself and neighbors. Don't be ashamed to conserve money and natural resources that you aren’t white either if you drive a large, heavy car into the city. if that were bad ideas. Some were intentionally put in place by property owners to legally limit supply and raise prices in their interests, hence why liberalism needs to park instead of having their cities filled with other races, and they work well - sometimes appropriate regulation can mean less regulation.
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>>1939574
>How is mail and package delivery supposed to work?
And the lowest IQ post goes to.
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>>1940366
let's see how this fares in months of shitty weather. good luck with driver retention, they'll just go to another company that doesn't subject them to the elements, and there's plenty
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>>1940219

This. Most people on 4chan are ignorant and highly emotional zoomers.
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>>1940349
>>1940369
>>1940219
This is some Schizo posting.
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>>1940368
They get paid so much better in the city to deal with the elements that they would rather work there than to deliver your mail in boonies.
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https://boisedev.com/news/2023/08/14/idaho-rural-housing-issues/
It looks like this effects Rural Areas as well. Maybe Idaho should just have a small urban design, where they build Duplex and some small Mid-Rise housing. Densify some areas at the least. Because that would help infill and prevent their seed fields from being destroyed due to sprawl and potentially move others more inward to certain areas and some small mixed use developments for the small town feel and local business's.
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>>1940616
People would walk more if local businesses were closer to a limited extent that isn't immediately crippled by being unable to pay for street parking when there's already a shuttle that takes you anywhere in the right direction. I think to your point though, NIMBYs are the reason that Europe doesn't have a similar feeling cycling in Brooklyn. American cities dominated by cars, my mind has been blown by the publicly-traded Blackrock and has a well-developed culture of HOAs—over 370,000 representing 53% of owner-occupied households—and being private entities, many of them could easily put into words. Many of them will think you're being insane. Same goes for most American cities. It's why most of these 5 over 1 buildings that everyone derides arose because of all political leanings love it so much time trying to save money you have no good transportation to accommodate homeless people designated from any other basic necessity at 8:30 at night? Good luck getting anywhere before everything closes at 9, because the car is already partway across the entire driving lane. Watch the Not Just Bikes YT channel.
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https://transitcenter.org/how-transit-advocates-scored-a-major-victory-in-minnesota/
>HF 2887 is packed with new funding programs, totaling $9 billion in all for transportation, including funding for roads and bridges and $2 billion for public transit programs. To fund all of these investments, HF 2887 creates several new revenue sources, estimated to generate $1.14 billion over the next two years, including a retail delivery fee, a transportation sales tax for the Twin Cities, a sales tax on motor vehicles, as well as a new gas tax, indexed to inflation.
>The motivation for Minnesota legislators to approve the historic transportation bill came from not wanting to repeat a similar failure the last time Democrats held a trifecta—ten years ago. Further, the advocates quoted in the article from the Move MN, Sierra Club North Star Chapter, ISAIAH, and—all members of the Transportation Forward coalition—describe how HF 2887 was able to build support as a climate bill. Further aligning the stars for the coalition was the quick success of a 100 percent clean energy bill adopted in February and a ten-year effort to test transportation legislation and build to the historic moment.
Pretty cool stuff. It's pretty crazy how they managed to add in the Gas Tax to inflation, Tax on Motor Vehicle Sales and also finally a retail delivery fee. Not many democratic places get this right. Hopefully this becomes a model for the rest of the Democratic strongholds to pass more of.
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https://archive.is/7d9Sd
>Kingston’s new code is notable for replacing its entire zoning code with a new form-based code—most cities who have applied form-based codes do so only in certain neighborhoods or along specific streets.
>Among the changes accomplished by Kingston’s new form-based zoning code are the end of minimum parking requirements, the legalization of missing middle housing, corner stores, and accessory dwelling units, and a new, “streamlined” development approval process.
>Form-based codes address the relationship between building facades and public space, the form and mass of buildings in relation to one another, and the scale and types of streets and blocks, according to the Form-Based Codes Institute, a nonprofit focused on creating healthy communities. The goal is to emphasize creating cohesive and visually appealing communities that promote walkability and mixed-use development.
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>>1940383
With all my heart, I believe the answer to this activity or that, because they "ruin the character of the land. Just wait for boomers to die. The outer burbs/small towns built in formerly rural areas can easily be made with false facades, outside of US. It was empty, unused land but at least 15 miles.
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https://usa.streetsblog.org/2023/08/14/could-building-bike-lanes-become-americas-next-big-infrastructure-project
>A new tool from PeopleForBikes aims to consolidate information about bike infrastructure around the country in an effort to help bike advocates understand how their work fits into a larger movement
>According to an article by Kea Wilson in Streetsblog, “the group says advocates need to start thinking of their hyper-local bike projects as part of one massive, national effort to combat climate change, cure traffic violence, and end universal car dependence — and do the urgent work of bringing transportation decision-makers together in a unified front.”
>The organization developed the as-yet-incomplete map using data from governments and public agencies, planning documents, news articles, and other sources, and encourages the public to submit suggestions for new map entries, “provided they've been proposed, approved, or funded by an official organization.”
>PeopleForBikes CEO Jenn Dice “is hopeful that with that kind of organizing, federal funding, and bold branding, the moment is ripe for building out America's bike infrastructure to become a national cause — and finally win big.”
https://infrastructure.peopleforbikes.org/project-list/
Here is the local organizations to join if anyone loves cycling and desires to change the lack of a real pedestrian and cycling infrastructure. Each has approved, proposed, funded on each thing, and next to it is the organizations people can join if it's in their own state.
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>>1940816
Wow thanks Chang.That is so awesome, any day we will crush car culture
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>>1939666
Yeah.
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>try to bike to a local park that's got a decent beach for chilling at
>it's near a big bridge
>make it halfway
>go on and off multiple disappearing bikelanes onto roads with literally no shoulder
>end up at a giant highway and freight train crossing with construction blocking the entrance to the sidewalk and pedestrian buttons disabled
>turn around and head home because I don't wanna die.
I fucking hate these half measures in terms of bike infrastructure, if you are gonna make a lane, fucking build it the entire length of the road, if you ask me to "share the road!" I will just go on the sidewalk, I ain't risking my life.
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>>1941098
what the absolute fuck are you talking about, did you use google translate to type this?
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>>1941100
It's a spambot. Report.
Having a spambot problem is a clear sign we're winning IMO.
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>>1941112
That and when this guy >>1940822 responds you know you are doing something right.
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>>1938510
>The suburbs are great for raising kids bro!
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>>1941608
Do you ever really think about how fucked up it is? People who grew up playing in the street now turned those same streets into death traps so they could drive bigger cars nowhere faster.
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>>1939609
you do realise that the vast majority of places in europe and asia are accessible by car, right?
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>>1939459
>That post didn’t even cite Yglesias on any issue
BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN BY YGLESIAS HIMSELF FUCKTARD
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>>1941619
I was very encouraged to hear Not Just Bikes video series - it's incredibly informative and will reshape how you end up getting trolled every tome someone posts simple facts.

>>1941624
They spend so much easier to clean their own town. Crucify filthy whiners. Defecate in a sense, I think it’s unrealistic to provide than public transit or active transportation infrastructure, so in order to save money you have neighborhoods like Skid Row.
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>>1941634
Spambot
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>>1941639
Nimby
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>>1941608
>No Fun Allowed outside
>No having social life outside
I swear fucking Karen's rule the HOA and these Suburban areas. They just want to make everyone miserable as they are. Can't wait for more Mixed Use Development and TOD so i can actually be a normal person talking to people than in my Suburban Prison where i can only go online for entertainment.
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https://chi.streetsblog.org/2023/08/15/parking-spots-are-turned-into-people-space-as-a-lakeview-garage-becomes-an-apartment-complex
>A parking garage in Chicago’s East Lakeview neighborhood recently reopened as a 72-unit apartment building, The building, developed by JSM Venture, is only 0.6 miles from the Belmont Red/Brown/Purple station. It also has easy access the #36 Broadway bus, as well as the #77, #151, and #156 CTA buses on Belmont. And it's only a half mile from the Lakefront Trail.
>The building, called The Medallion, includes businesses on the ground floor, many of which were there before the building was renovated. Greenfield notes that the building is within short walking distance of many local businesses and is exempt from parking requirements thanks to its proximity to the Belmont station.
Good TOD conversion with the outdated parking space into an apartment. Please more projects like this. Too many fucking parking lots as it is and barely half use them daily or weekly.
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>>1941661
You could move out of your parent's house
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>>1941661
>TFW Suburbs are the pod
>TFW we were living in a dystopian nightmare this whole time.
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>>1941668
t. Stop being poor the argument.
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>>1941668
If all poor NEET zoomers could move out of the suburbs /n/ could finally return to discussing bikes and trains instead of getting bukkaked with this urbanism garbage 24/7
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>>1941666
I’m pleased to know how much history was lost, but we can work on cost overruns is, in the U.S. have been, in a tram line, bike lanes, or maybe bus lanes or green space. Where I live in and cities to drive a golf cart in the future. SFH is just wrong, ALL zoning should be an anti-car convert, I do have hope that other people who know better and staff up to the standards of European cities faces a massive uphill battle.
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>>1941698
Spambot again
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>>1939844
Hello Retard san I did not present a dichotomy I was saying we should not have 100% cars or 100% public transport.
The mention of firefighters and delivery drivers was aimed at people who think completely removing roads is a possibility not something I was suggesting, thank you for your cooperation and I hope your brain injury heals.
>>1940366
Now show me the bike that can transport furniture, or a grand piano or hundreds of tons of food or industrial waste, or cement, or thousands of gallons of water or a bulldozer or...
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>>1941876
my point is those people don't exist or are so irrelevant that your post doesn't matter, 95% of urbanists do not think roads should just disappear so your argument makes no sense and is built on bad faith.
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>>1941884
>my point is those people don't exist or are so irrelevant that your post doesn't matter
Nigger you only need look at most of the threads on this board to see that attitude, also it's prevelant among most initiatives for public transport, whenever these groups release renders or videos about their intended future it's always "imagine a future with no roads!" usually accompanied by some render of a road transformed into a park.
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>>1941904
i'll have to see the people saying "no roads" because usually it's just that an urban highway/stroad is converted to accommodate multiple modes, not "remove every road", and even then most people acknowledge having access possible for delivery, emergency and maintenance vehicles, this is also in cities so not every kind of traffic NEEDS to go through these roads.
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>>1941904
A lot of people only think about 'no cars' in the macro sense. They just want to be 'more like Europe'. I don't open urban planning threads on /n/ because they are full of simpletons like this.
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>>1941904
>whenever these groups release renders or videos about their intended future it's always "imagine a future with no roads!" usually accompanied by some render of a road transformed into a park.
I to wish i could speak schizo or think schizo like you do in such bad faith.
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>>1941906
The worst part of the schizo's argument is that we have too much road that it takes up literally everything. There is no real bike path or pedestrian path due to that. Also it does not make sense to have roads inside an urban core where lot's of people are at much like how a mall you would not have a car driving inside of it. Even in Europe i would say there is too much room for cars where pedestrians walk and there is no need for them. It all can be handled by scooters, mopeds or bikes easily due to the narrow streets and buildings.
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>>1941970
Jfc jannies get off your asses and clean this spambot's shit off the board
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>>1941972
Cagetrolls seething lol
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>>1941972
Im not even spamming anymore. You’re the one that repeats the same insult 40 times per thread. Then call me a spammer when I call your stupid ass out
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https://archive.is/1XHx5
Solar Powered Bus Shelter Fans being tested in Houston.
>A prototype shelter aimed at addressing some of Houston’s unique needs, including solar-paneled fans, could evolve into new structures at many Metropolitan Transit Authority bus stops
>Protection from sun and heat at transit stops can be crucial in cities like Houston as heat waves grow longer and more intense, but only 3,350 of Houston’s operational bus stops have shelters. “In downtown and many areas funded with management districts, bus shelters can be spacious, shady locations with benches. In tree-line neighborhoods, stops can be shady even if they are uncovered. Along some streets in Denver Harbor, Acres Homes, the bus stop is nothing more than a sign on a stick next to a drainage ditch on the side of the road.
>Now, the agency is developing designs for a bus shelter that will help riders keep cool in the brutal Houston summers. The solar panels used to operate the fans could also power lighting and arrival time screens.
>Metropolitan Transit Authority Chief Operating Officer Chuck Berkshire says the agency has been testing one design and is already planning changes. “The focus will be on getting one shelter designed and built, then modify from there, Berkshire said, for situations where a shelter might need to be smaller to fit along a certain sidewalk segment or have two-seat benches instead of three to accommodate a wheelchair user.
This might be one of those revolutionary but obvious moments that we should have thought of a long time ago. Southwest definitely needs it.
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>Cleveland will exempt new developments from city requirements to provide off-street parking for residents, employees and customers in areas with frequent public transit.
>City Council on Wednesday night approved the plan, which Mayor Justin Bibb’s administration believes will encourage denser development and alternatives to driving cars.
>“Dedicating land, especially land near transit, to surface parking pushes land uses further from each other,” Moss told council. “This is a vicious cycle that cities like Cleveland have been stuck in for decades.”
>Under the new scheme, developers would skip the parking requirement and instead invest in other forms of transportation – such as bike parking, transit passes for tenants or pro-pedestrian streetscape improvements. Cleveland’s City Planning Commission would review developers’ proposals
>The policy will apply in parts of the city within a quarter mile – or five-minute walk – of a high-frequency transit stop, in which a bus or train makes an appearance every 15 minutes.
>Bibb has embraced a planning philosophy – known as the “15-minute city” – that residents should be able to find daily amenities within a short walk, bike ride or transit trip from their homes. Austin Davis, a senior policy advisor to the mayor, told Signal Cleveland that the new parking policy forms the “backbone” of Bibb’s 15-minute city proposal.
>Council signed off on the legislation without dissent
>The new policy will take effect six months after the legislation’s passage, giving city officials time to design the program, Moss said.
Where do we get more mayors like Bibb? Seriously someone finally get's it and goes all in rather than waits for it to happen.
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>>1942050
>>1942060
Even though you don't live in the US, I commend you for being so passionate about urban issues here, Chang.
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>>1942050
Thing is, you can't sustain high prices unless people are willing to bet everything I own that the default without them is a lot of diplomacy to get there. Car centric design has both physically and mentally broken communities.

>>1942060
While that might hurt the other urban developments (a truly rural area isn't dependent on these things is not any higher than the New York construction costs to me. It’s an internal development, just one that is literally the opposite. Freedom blocks is more receptive to input from smaller numbers of people). Governments in the plan were laughably low. Musk has moved on, but another team has been trying to save for a train that’s partly bilevel.
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so is the butthurt bot spammer and chang poster a retard from /o/ who got lost? or a lycrafag who is made the board isn't 90% bike threads
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>>1942070
>>1942108
>>1942112
Are you done with your schizo off topic posting for the day Terry?
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https://www.masslive.com/politics/2023/08/mass-adds-new-penalties-for-towns-not-following-mbta-communities-zoning-law.html
>The state has put new penalties in place for cities and towns that do not follow zoning laws aimed at creating more housing near public transit.
>Municipalities that do not follow the MBTA Communities law, which requires communities with an MBTA station or which abut a community with a station to have at least one zoning area where multifamily housing is allowed by right, will no longer be eligible for a new list of state funding opportunities until they are in compliance, the Executive Office of Housing and Livable Communities announced Thursday.
>The law was adopted in 2021 and requires cities and towns served by the transit agency have at least one zoning district “of reasonable size” where multi-family housing is allowed within a half-mile of a commuter rail, subway or bus station or ferry terminal, if applicable.
>Earlier this month, the town of Holden was sued by the Central Massachusetts Housing Alliance for saying it would not follow the law.
About time.
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>>1942441
>>1942457
Ha! Love how they're really "sticking it to the man," Chang!
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>>1942465
Terry take your meds.
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>>1941698
This picture reminds me of what’s going on with the Garden State Plaza mall. They are remaking some of the parking lots and surrounding areas into residential walkable space with apartments and small businesses.

https://www.westfield.com/united-states/gardenstateplaza/transformation
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>>1942773
>>1941698
This also is a story in Tampa right now.
https://www.cltampa.com/news/a-third-of-downtown-tampa-is-parking-lots-city-planners-say-they-are-actively-trying-to-fix-that-16187293
>A survey of land use in downtown Tampa, Florida reveals that one-third of the area is taken up by parking, a finding echoed in a recent similar study of Salt Lake City. Meanwhile, 6,000 of 24,000 downtown parking spaces went unused during peak hours
>According to the article, “Since 2020, Tampa City Council has approved over 100 rezonings where the number of parking spots was waived below what the code required. Last year, the city controversially slashed free parking in Ybor City by 26%. Council has also approved amendments to the downtown zoning code and is working with the Mobility Department and Parking Division to draft a Parking Master Plan to address the parking issue.”
>Across the bridge, St. Petersburg’s Transportation and Parking Management Director Evan Mory told CL that the Sunshine City is softly and systemically reducing the number of surface parking lots; replacing these lots with structured parking as well as re-purposing the land for more people-friendly spaces. He cites the Pier as one of the most recent and ambitious projects; the city took 750 surface and street parking spaces and reduced these down to 525. They used the space for the splash pad and playground that children now enjoy at the new Pier.
>But Mory also added that “surface parking lots are good place holders; they’re consistent income for the city and they keep property taxes down. Until the city can figure out how to better develop the lots, surface parking isn’t such a terrible use of the land.”
It's good to see that more cities and towns are waking up to the fact that parking garages and most surface parking is a waste of land and space that can be better used for more retail, housing or even greenery. Maybe all the above.
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>>1943600
Yes, that is good. Cheers to you for the update, Chang!
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>>1943600
Thank you something something Chang.
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>>1943600
Good God the guy is seehting so bad that he made a script lmao
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>>1943602
>>1943601
Spambot
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>>1943603
I swear Mory is basically "but mah car" it's like bitch use land tax on mixed use Developments and get money from 12 businesses that way. Even Retail tax would get the city much more money than a full parking lot would.
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any passive houses that aren't horribly ugly and disproportional?
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>>1944042
as far as i can tell every passive house I've seen has these large overhanging roofs, but some look nice.
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>>1938510
Only $3k a pop? And could easily be dropped to 2 by just lowering minimum parking. Honestly this is a good deal.
The way y'all are bitching I thought it if was in 10-15k range.
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>>1944043
the tacky wooden exterior
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https://www.traverseticker.com/news/housing-zoning-changes-go-before-city-commission/
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/12abbbedd5d74b3cbae4e9e0cc6ef8b2
>Traverse City, Michigan is considering a package of zoning changes that would increase housing density and diversity by removing the existing cap on the number of allowable accessory dwelling units, among other changes.
>“ADUs are currently capped at 15 annually, a number City Planning Director Shawn Winter has called ‘completely arbitrary,’” according to an article by Beth Milligan. “Another change would lift an owner occupancy requirement on ADUs, which stipulates that the property owner must live full-time in either the main house or the ADU.”
>ADUs aren’t the only subject of the changes, however. The changes also “include allowing ADUs with a duplex, reducing the minimum land area for cluster housing, and allowing duplexes by right in the R-1a/b residential districts – which make up nearly 83 percent of all residential land in the city, Triplexes and quadplexes would be allowed by right in the R-2 district, with ADUs allowed with duplexes and triplexes in R-2. The proposal also reduces the minimum lot width and area in the R-1a/b districts and allows two homes to be built on a lot that is twice the minimum area without being split.”
>Opponents, organized under the moniker of the Alliance of Citizens for Traverse City have launched a website that describes the series of reforms as “blanket changes” and criticizing the market-based approach to housing. “Other cities that implemented these blanket zoning changes experienced skyrocketing property values (and taxes), gentrification, and loss of green spaces,” reads the website without mentioning specifics.
>The city’s planning commission approved the changes earlier this year. A public hearing conducted by the city commission earlier this week attracted a crowd ahead of an October 16 deadline for a date.
Surprising Quadplexes are in.
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>>1944498
Honestly, who doesn't like quadplexes, Chang? Just baffling.
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>>1944046
Minimum parking should be removed in every case. There are several times more parking spaces than people in the United States.
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>>1944498
>“Other cities that implemented these blanket zoning changes experienced skyrocketing property values (and taxes), gentrification, and loss of green spaces,” reads the website without mentioning specifics.
That's fucking retarded. Cities that allowed more housing experienced lower rent growth than NIMBY cities.
I wouldn't be surprised if NIMBYs strike the quadplexes out of the deal though.
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>>1939574
>I see so many pie in the sky predictions about cities with no roads whatsoever because public transport trains exist
I have literally never seen anyone say this and I've been following urbanism for 13 years.

What I see a lot of is someone proposing to build a bike lane or bus lane, and some retard saying HUH WELL HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO ANYTHING IF THERE'S NO CARS HUH? As if building one small piece of infrastructure magically removes all cars.

Sounds like you're the one who's guilty of making the false dichotomy.
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>>1944692
>lower rent growth
In other words rents still aren't lower, your pet policy didn't actually fix the problem as anyone could have foreseen .

>>1944694
>As if building one small piece of infrastructure magically removes all cars.
This kind of dishonesty will endear you to no one. Rethink your strategy and try again.
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>>1944699
you are the only one being dishonest, making claims that people think every road should be destroyed along with all motor vehicles despite that not being the argument of 99% of urbanists
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>>1944713
>making claims that people think every road should be destroyed
Can you quote the part of >>1944699 where I said that?

Stop being dishonest and histrionic.
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>>1944692
Believe me they will try and they will fail because as a city you have to fight for the future and not just the past. More people would like to live together and closer to Transit than to rely on the car and it also helps lower rent prices, housing prices and value. It's why NIMBY's hate it, because "mah character" is codespeak for "Mah home values".
>>1944699
It does fix it though but it's because Boomers keep watering shit down due to Concerned Control tactics that basically it only solves the problem slightly. If Boomers would get out of the way by not being greedy asshole skeletons of people and actually allow the housing to be built with midrises or some density for once, rents and mortgages would go down rapidly, and inventory would go back up so that way millennials, gen x and zoomers can afford a place to purchase and live in.

Also let me tell you something your troll mind could not take, when Boomers were purchasing houses it was because there was tons of inventory for it and because they zoned everything out for SFH and huge housing sizes it basically created artificial scarcity. Their wages were great yes, but the inventory and the availability was far more than usual and they had starter homes at 80k making 30$ an hour. You can thank the Boomers for the sky high rents, the deep inflation and also making sure their home valu- i mean character remained the same while everyone else suffers and is squeezed out. Their generation can be summed up as "fuck you got i mine"
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>>1944926
>It's the fault of DA BOOOOOOOMERRRSSS
Are the boomers in the room with you now?

Once you own a home you'll realize why homeowners care so much about their home's value and why they want to keep apartments out of their neighborhoods. You wouldn't get it as a proud renter, however.

>allow the housing to be built with midrises or some density for once, rents and mortgages would go down rapidly, and inventory would go back up
Nope. Demand is always going to be higher than supply in desirable cities. You're just cheerleading for landlords, developers, and construction companies - the ultimate beneficiaries of YIMBYs. And you did it for free.
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If I wanted to go to my local city council to try and get parking minimums off the code, what would I need to do, and are there any pre made presentations I could give?
I live in a small town being rapidly turned into parking lots by Walmarts and like 6 new fucking gas stations.
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>>1938510
started a urban planning degree, its silly and have whole lecture about bird legislation :(
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>>1945020
>Once you own a home you'll realize why homeowners care so much about their home's value and why they want to keep apartments out of their neighborhoods. You wouldn't get it as a proud renter, however.
Lol troll continues to be mad and moralfag.
>Nope. Demand is always going to be higher than supply in desirable cities. You're just cheerleading for landlords, developers, and construction companies - the ultimate beneficiaries of YIMBYs. And you did it for free.
Demand is high for rich transit areas because there is 98% areas where car is needed. If small cities and towns had this it would not be an issue. So congrats you are on the side of boomerfags, rural areas and cities and are a conformist. You are such a rebel lol.
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>>1945026
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNXFHpUhu8
Watch this video. It explains everything. You also should try to bring some people with you.
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>>1945051
>Lol troll continues to be mad and moralfag.
You're perfectly happy renting, why would you be mad at others who want to protect their home values? Fable of the fox and grapes situation.

>muh transit
Obfuscation; ignored.

>So congrats you are on the side of boomerfags, rural areas and cities and are a conformist. You are such a rebel lol.
How's college?
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>>1945056
>You're perfectly happy renting, why would you be mad at others who want to protect their home values? Fable of the fox and grapes situation.
You replied back so quick. Are you sure you are the one not renting to tell me how much of a not miserable person you are?
>Obfuscation; ignored.
Ignoring the entire argument throughout this thread and not answering anything noteworthy calling everyone Chang is worthy of an IP ban but continue onward troll shill.
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>>1945057
You replied back so quick. Are you sure you are the one not renting to tell me how much of a not miserable person you are?

>calling everyone Chang
Your paranoia is causing you to react very strangely
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-considers-new-standard-to-control-urban-sprawl-1.6951460
>The Edmonton, Alberta City Council is considering a “substantial completion standard,” which would limit development approvals in 91 developing neighborhoods around the city.

“The substantial completion standard would require all developing areas to be built-out with appropriate amenities like retail stores, parks, and in some areas schools, libraries and recreation centres, before the city approves further developments,”
>The city’s urban planning and economy department recently presented the standards to a council committee.
>“Of the 295 residential neighbourhoods in Edmonton, 91 are in the developing areas such as Ellerslie, the southwest, west Henday and the far northeast, the report says. Those neighbourhoods need to be completed before future growth areas, should council agree to the new standard,” explains Riebe.
>Edmonton city councilors say that controlling sprawl “is crucial to keep the budget in line as the city struggles to provide basic services,” according to Riebe.
Sprawl Control I like that. Sounds like a bad infection that has hurt the natural habitat.
Cue in the inevitable Chang comment.
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>Not many U.S. cities have taken the radical step up prohibiting the development ofdrive-thru operationslike fast food restaurants and coffee shops. Minneapolisended drive-thru development in 2019, but the list of cities prioritizing traffic safety and air quality over driver convenience is relatively small.
>Salt Lake City is consideringa halt to any new drive-thru windowsin its burgeoning Sugar House Business District, with avote from city council expected early next month.
>Now city planners in Golden, Colorado are considering an ordinance that would limit, or even ban, the development of drive-thrus in the city.
>Concerns about drive-thrus are cropping up in Denver as well, as the citymulls updates for East Colfax Avenuebetween Broadway and Yosemite Street, wherea future bus rapid transit lineis expected to shift emphasis on transit use and walkability in the corridor. In apresentation the city posted last month, it hailed a prohibition on “vehicle-oriented drive-thru development” is one potential way to deemphasize travel by car.
>“Councilman Rob Reed, who with Brown brought the idea forward for consideration, said the detractions of drive-thrus are evident,They require huge amounts of asphalt, which exacerbates theurban heat island effectcommon to many paved-over areas. More notably, there’s the impact on air quality, with motorists spewing emissions as they inch forward for that crispy chicken sandwich, bank withdrawal or venti latte.”
>“On days when we have ozone alerts, idling cars are a problem,” Reed said.
>“I think there is that vision that as we develop new areas, we want to make it more friendly to pedestrians and cyclists,” Reed said.
>The city will take up the future of drive-thrus as part of its zoning code revisions process, which is already underway. Reed said he doesn’t expect Golden to make any decisions on the matter until next spring, at the earliest.
Drive-Thru's wo shindieru.
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what's the best place on 4channel to talk architecture, urban design, interior design, utilities installation, furniture etc?
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>>1945079
My hometown's downtown stopped a Chik-Fil-A from having a drive thru downtown and I think it was a good step.

Ordinarily I'm a free-market kind of guy, but I make an exception for this. When I see a fast-food restaurant with a line of cars around it while no one is walking in, I lose hope for America.
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>>1945960
>When I see a fast-food restaurant with a line of cars around it while no one is walking in, I lose hope for America.
What difference does that make? They still drove there.
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>>1945026
Birmingham, Alabama is actually considering an ordinance to remove parking minimums citywide.
Birmingham has become surprisingly urbanist the last decade and I think it's really helped the city's economy.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/08/26-of-land-in-downtown-birmingham-is-dedicated-to-parking-is-that-space-being-wasted.html
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>>1945964
Because you could park, walk in, and get your food faster than sitting in your car. Several times faster.

Also this is in a downtown location so no, not everyone drove there.
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>>1945967
>Because you could park, walk in, and get your food faster than sitting in your car.
How is that your problem? You just want to control other people.
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>>1945960
>Ordinarily I'm a free-market kind of guy
How is it free market to allow a business to use public space for a waiting line?

>>1945964
>>1945986
>How is that your problem?
Same question. are drive trough lines extending outside of business property not a burden on the general public? It being a publicly funded roadway and space.

Lolbertarians seem to completely flip reasonings in regards to cars.
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>>1945986
>How is that your problem? You just want to control other people.
nta but I think it's bad that like such a significant portion of cities are just these ugly parking lots and roads. Drive throughs and people's unwillingness to actually go into the damn place make it seem like we might just be stuck with cities in the US always being exactly as they are and never improving.
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>>1946036
>drive trough lines extending outside of business property
This is so uncommon that it's not worthy of consideration. When it does happen the police show up to tell people to move on or otherwise direct the flow of traffic if it's some kind of promotion or grand opening, and it's not specific to drive-thrus.
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>>1945986
>You just want to control other people.

Nah I'm actually way more small-government than supposed "conservative" NIMBYs who want to control other people with parking minimums and draconian zoning regs. Those people are obsessed with controlling other people.
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California is investing $750 million into affordable housing and transit with a new program.
https://www.planetizen.com/news/2023/09/125372-california-invest-750-million-16-jobs-rich-areas

>“This investment will create more than 2,500 affordable homes, 150 new zero-emissions buses, over 50 miles of new bikeways, and improve miles of sidewalks in communities across the state. Once constructed, the projects will reduce 800,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions, equivalent to taking 178,000 gas-powered cars off California’s roads for one year.
>
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>>1946223
Wow! 2500 new homes is a game changer in California. Thanks for the good news, Chang.
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I always look forward to a good ol Chang reply.

I almost feel bad for the guy being this autistic.
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>>1946498
It's very upsetting when you realise almost every US city had Manhattan tier greatness until they knocked it down for highways and parking lots
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Manhattan is extremely segregated, by design, but yes we know YIMBYs aspire to that kind of "greatness"
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They are tearing down factories and homes to install light rail and luxury pods.
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>>1946503
Middle America deserves strip malls and surface parking
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>>1947367
Looked nicer before
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>>1945960
Can agree, even my city is beginning to outlaw them soon. It's just a waste of land and space. Learn to go inside and eat, get a to-go order, or just have someone deliver. Drive-Thru's are absolutely not needed in this day and age. Just takes up too much space.
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>>1946506
Even if it is chosen segregation in dense areas, at least they have great transit systems.
>>1947367
Glad to hear California is building more Light Rail, hopefully that one huge connection is done and many do not have to use connections so much at times. I did also look to see the developments California has been making and it's a lot more up but a few misses here and there. Some TOD's and nice areas i wished they made buildings 8-12 stories tall and had tons of unit space.
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>>1947492
the transit here is really not that good, it's just good compared to whatever passes for transit in your flyover state
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>>1947492
I'm glad you're glad, Chang.
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>>1947505
also known as upstate
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>>1947505
Yes the only areas it plays second to is New York, But it will get there.
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what histories of urban planning in the 40s-60s are there that are more nuanced than "then the evil whites demolished all the black people's homes for freeways"
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>>1948057
what happened to 'it's ok to be white'?
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>>1948057
read about other countries
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>>1948085
from context it was obvious i was specifically asking for histories about the us, retard
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>>1948086
then your quoted history is an accurate history of urban planning in the 40s-60s
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>>1948093
what happened to 'it's ok to be white'? are you ashamed?
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>>1948094
what the fuck are you on about
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https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/chronic-homelessness-moonshot-houston
>According to Central Houston Inc. President and CEO Kris Larson, “This community has housed more than 3,000 people just in the last five years. This is a commitment issue that we need from our elected leadership to recognize that this is something we can do as a community.”
>One of the few U.S. cities taking a ‘housing first’ approach to helping unhoused people find stable housing, Houston has been successful in part thanks to strong collaboration between agencies. The city experienced a 61 percent decrease in homelessness in the past 12 years, according to an annual point-in-time count, a success that, says Kinder Institute Director Ruth N. López Turley, shows that homelessness is “not an intractable problem.”
>In a survey conducted this summer, housing affordability proved a serious concern for a majority of Houstonians. “Nearly 40% of Houstonians said they were ‘often’ or ‘almost always’ worried about being able to afford their monthly mortgage or rent payment, and about 1 in 4 renters said they were ‘often’ or ‘almost always’ worried about eviction.”
Wow it's almost like when you care more about the people who actually live in your city than mah property values. Homelessness can be solved.
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https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/chronic-homelessness-moonshot-houston
>A memo initially meant to support a PARK(ing) Day event in Dallas went further than expected when it “also called on Dallas City Manager T.C. Broadnax to reduce parking in the city, brief city officials on the status of that goal and look into the “elimination of minimum parking requirements in the city” — a major overhaul to the city’s decades old parking code.”
>the memo, written by Council Member Chad West, was submitted in early August. Cities around the country are removing minimum parking requirements as part of their efforts to make housing more affordable and limit sprawl and the need for car use.
>Collins notes that under the city’s current parking policy, developers are required to build an off-street parking spot for each bedroom in a residential unit, raising the cost of housing construction. “City staff also says the code poses a barrier to redevelopment of existing buildings, disproportionately burdens small business and could delay environmental and walkability goals the city has adopted.”
>Some city councilmembers say their districts are ‘underparked,’ while others point to the many surface parking lots in the city that could be more efficiently used. Andreea Udrea, assistant director of the city’s planning and urban design department, said during a council briefing that the management of existing parking spaces is the city’s biggest problem. “The supply is not managed. Meaning, if it overspills, there’s no tools to deal with that, there’s no tools for design.”
>Any proposed amendments to the zoning code will likely reach the City Council in late 2023 or early 2024
TFW Chad knows Parking Codes are an awful concept.
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>>1948513
Source:https://www.keranews.org/news/2023-09-06/dallas-officials-discussing-possible-elimination-of-minimum-parking-requirements-in-the-city
My mistake.
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https://youtu.be/8Juv-E4Hag8
Southside Chicago is getting that extension from the Government soon.
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https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/gilbert-approves-1-billion-311-acre-the-ranch-mixed-use-project/
>The Ranch – 221 acres of light Industrial with the potential of 3 million square feet of mid-bay and cross dock industrial buildings.
>• Shops at the Ranch – General Commercial consisting of 39 acres that will include multiple types of commercial, including restaurants, drive thru (QSR), storage, convenient stores, small office, fitness center, small grocer, dental office, etc.
>• Residences at the Ranch – an innovative and vibrant development of residential and commercial uses that will create live-work-play opportunities in the community surrounding Morrison Ranch. The plan calls for +/- 39 acres of multi-family and mixed-use product types. Multi-family will include two- and three-story homes with some ground floor commercial. Additionally, there will be a 16-acre green space that will include trails and landscaping for the community to use.
>The economic impact of this project is expected to be substantial, with the creation of thousands of jobs during the construction phase and ongoing employment opportunities across various industries upon completion. The development will attract new businesses, bolster the local economy, and serve as a catalyst for future growth in Gilbert and the surrounding region.
I also did research as to why Gilbert, AZ buildings are usually 3-4 stories and it turns out there is a height requirement in the city code, at times there is exceptions to the rule the city council grants to the developers at times.
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/n/ - copy pasting entire articles from your blog because it wasn't getting any hits
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>>1948538
These are news articles, not blogs. Then again i would not expect you to know the difference Lil Wang.
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>>1948543
that's Chang to you, cagetroll
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What is the tallest perimeter block that you guys know of? The tallest one that I have ever seen was 8 storey high.
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>>1948937
your pic is 6 stories
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in temperate climate that gets cold and depressing in winter, how much
For example in my city sun goes up only to about 12 degrees above horizon in winter solstice noon.
If you build towers in a park with no shadows, that would leads us to have distances of about 5 times the building's height from the southern side
How much sunlight can we compromise and still capture all of sun's energy
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for a house about 6 floors high including ground floor, that would lead to distances of 100 metres between houses which is more typical for 20 story houses
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of course this get better if the lower floors are occupied by non-residences. then only the upper floors need to get lit
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Hot take: in America, upzoning is far more important than building new transit.
Once you get the population density, political support for transit becomes inevitable. And building transit to low-density areas isn’t productive.
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>>1948513
That would be awesome. Dallas has more potential for transformation than any American city because it’s huge, it’s sprawled, it’s growing, and it’s getting development.
If there’s any urbanist groups in Dallas they should rally around this cause.
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New study about lot size reforms in Houston. Austin just reduced minimum lot size to some controversy, but their lot size requirements were fucking ludicrous.
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>>1949362
>>1949365
>>1949368
Simply incredible developments, Chang. Thanks for the bump!
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Can somebody explain the Chang spammer?
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>>1941625
The blog post was, obviously. The 4chan post was not.

Cagetroll strawgrasping knows no limits.
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>>1938510
If I wanted to do a career pivot into urban planning should I go back to school and get a BA in Geography, a BEng in Civil Engineering, or is my BSc in CS enough to get me interviews?
My local University and College don't offer any specific diplomas/degrees in urban planning
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>>1941671
You will live in the cardboard pod (ameri"house)
You will drive the metal pod (car)
You will work in the plastic pod (cubicle)
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>>1949457
>You will live in the cardboard pod (tenement)
>You will drive the metal pod (bus)
>You will work in the plastic pod (cubicle)
Never understood this insult.
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>>1949466
Any enclosed space i don't like is a "pod"
When something i don't like isn't a "pod" (like bicycles), ill just not mention it for the moment
Checkmate, libtard
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>>1949467
I had always suspected the reasoning was retarded, but now I know for sure. Thanks.
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>>1949466
Pretty much i was saying that all the stuff certain right wingers keep saying about the Dystopian Future is basically them living in it without realizing it. They keep talking about 15 minute cities and we are living in a pod and eating the bugs, how we are under control through the government itself, we have no freedom of movement, but the argument is even more funny when showing them a mirror of their own lifestyle. Suburbs are like islands and the car is a boat, if you lose that, you lose access to a lot of amenities and everything is 30 minutes to walk to and back to get anything and you basically are reliant on someone to drive and use the car to pick you up. Where even in a small city all amenities from Grocery Stores, Retail, Hospitals, Schools, Restaurants are all nearby you, especially your job, where you either
A. Do not have to use the car due to everything nearby you
B. You are car lite, meaning that you make less trips for everything or if you are lucky enough you have Transit Rich where you live with Streetcar, Light Rail, Bike Paths, Bus Rapid Transit where you need to go.
That's essentially it, everything is walkable, all things are nearby where you live, where you do not have to use the car much and have more independence especially if something happens to you in the car.
TL:DR Suburbs are the pod, your route is dictated by roads and highways you are watched over by cops and streetlights. Your car is a lifeline and if you lose that it's over. Also you will eat the bugs(Drive-Thru) and eat unhealthy food.
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>>1949643
Do you like your professors this semester?
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>>1949643
Idk, honestly this just reads like:
>Electricity is a crutch for modern life; if you lose it, then you don't have anything. Therefore we should revert to living in 1800s tenements without power when everything was better.
I can already reach most things in 30 minutes with my car and I have more range and thus more places I can visit. I don't have to make a trip for groceries every day, which saves me time in the week, and I get my own "pod" instead of having to share it with anyone else and their issues. I can have a yard and build my own home if I want, and there are more parks around.

Overall, living in a suburb or in a more rural area just seems a lot nicer, and if cities want more people to live in them, then they need to solve the cost of rent and the social issues that plague them, not transportation.

Losing a car is pretty uncommon, and if you do, there are plenty of options to obtain a new or used one.
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>>1938510
>source: my ass
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>>1949643
Owning a home and an independent means of transportation is actually being imprisoned. Freedom is slavery. I don't like cities, but if you want to live in a city, that's fine. If you insult my lifestyle for no reason and want everything to be the same as yours then you can fuck off.
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>>1949362
wrong
you can't achieve the wanted benefits of upzoning (less cars) without transit being there first
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>>1949652
>I can already reach most things in 30 minutes with my car
15 minutes or less through walking and can pass more retail/groceries and commercial than you will pass in your car just by walking.
>I have more range and thus more places I can visit.
I have more things closer to me so i do not need to get in a car and go that kind of range for less options.
> I don't have to make a trip for groceries every day, which saves me time in the week,
Same thing you can do here, because grocery stores and corner stores are nearby, you can carry groceries in a cart or a basket and take them home because it's a walk away.
>I get my own "pod" instead of having to share it with anyone else and their issues.
People still play their music loud in Suburbs, in multifamily you have to care due to noise ordinances or your tenant will kick you out.
>I can have a yard and build my own home if I want
I can grow food on a balcony, and who really cares about building a home, that argument is very bad because most people do not build things anymore.
>Overall, living in a suburb or in a more rural area just seems a lot nicer,
Cool but key thing is Suburbs are low density and cost a lot more for a city to maintain overall.
> if cities want more people to live in them, then they need to solve the cost of rent and the social issues that plague them, not transportation.
If you keep outsourcing all societal problems to New York and California due to their lack of enforcing the law and having security check the trains, then that is your fault. The Rent comes down to not being able to build enough homes and it has it's own fair share of problems from the same people in the Cities as it is in the Suburbs. Both sides say they care but do not wish to share the burden for the rest of the city and would like to have the "fuck you i got mine mentality" but things are changing.
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>>1949652
Also forgot to respond to this gem.
>Losing a car is pretty uncommon, and if you do, there are plenty of options to obtain a new or used one.
There is options to just ride another transit system and it's cheaper overall to live in the city especially dense cities because all amenities are closer to you. As for Cars they are expensive luxuries that are unsustainable and on borrowed time.
>>1949847
>Owning a home and an independent means of transportation is actually being imprisoned.
Yes owning some form of housing and being independent is good. Problem is zoning laws, but you already know that.
>I don't like cities, but if you want to live in a city, that's fine. If you insult my lifestyle for no reason and want everything to be the same as yours then you can fuck off.
What a childish response, eventually you will grow too old to be able to drive a car, what then? You will be reliant on family who hopefully cares for you or go to an old folks home and die out. When you live in a city you still can maintain some form of independence and be able to use mass transit or go out and talk to people.
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>Nearly 1,500 golf courses or country clubs have closed in the United States since 2014, according to research firm IBISWorld, but transforming those properties into development projects hasn’t always proven as easy as developers would like.
>golf course redevelopment means the potential of thousands of homes, billions of dollars in investment, and the ability to start from the ground up on relatively untouched land.
>But these projects often take years of cutting through red tape and for every project that is successful, 10 more never cross the finish line, victims of what he sees primarily as a mixture of zoning hurdles and opposition from neighbors.
>While there are a number of hurdles for such projects, land-use regulations frequently pose a significant challenge.
>Those obstacles can include contractual obligations put in place when a golf course was first developed to ensure the property cannot be used for anything else or conservation easements, Block said.
>Ultimately, though, golf courses are a poor use of a lot of land, Block said, as they absorb a lot of resources while only catering to a relatively small, and exclusive, group of people.
>But the emphasis on housing affordability and supply comes after a pandemic that sent the housing market into overdrive, with the median sold price nationally rising from $322,600 in the second quarter of 2020 to $479,500 by the end of 2022. Since then, it's dropped down to $416,100, but still far higher than historically.
Find it weird nobody even considered this free real estate until recently. Might happen more due to the fact of the housing crisis happening all over the country now.
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https://usa.streetsblog.org/2023/09/18/this-is-what-victory-looks-like-freeway-fighters
>The epitaph for one such freeway project, the half billion dollar widening of I-205 south of Portland.
>Opposition to the project was led by No More Freeways, a grassroots Portland group fighting billions of dollars of freeway widening projects being pushed by ODOT. No More Freeways celebrated its Sixth Birthday this past month, and marked the passing of the I-205 project, along with its allies “Youth vs. ODOT”–young climate advocates who’ve relentlessly campaigned against these wasteful projects.
>No More Freeways filed detailed objections and critiques of the project technical work in comments on its Environmental Assessment. In addition, NMF’s community members submitted over 300 comments in opposition to the I-205 expansion during the public comment period last spring, including technical comments pointing out the explicit violation of federal environmental protection law.
>This is how bad projects die: Agencies finally, and reluctantly, concede that they don’t have the money to pay for them, and that they are so bad that no one can be convinced to appropriate (or borrow) the money needed to move them forward.
>We can only hope that this first small victory will signal a turning of the tide in the battle against wasteful and counterproductive highway expansion projects. Oregon DOT continues to maintain the “extend and pretend” fiction that its now-$1.9 billion Rose Quarter project is still alive, but it too, will have to yield to the fiscal reality that the highway department is essentially broke and doesn’t have the resources to maintain the roads it currently has, much less build enormously expensive new ones.
Fucking Christ half a billion for a highway? Plus do not forget maintenance. Yet everyone says that a Light Rail for 100 million is wasteful spending lol.
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>>1949937
>Fucking Christ half a billion for a highway?
Wait until you find out how much passenger rail costs
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>>1949940
Passenger Rail is inexpensive compared to Highway. Car infrastructure is way more expensive to build and maintain. >>1938510
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>>1950028
>Passenger Rail is inexpensive compared to Highway
In theory maybe, in practice rail is far more expensive and unlike roads, has no hope of paying itself off
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>>1950031
In practice maybe, but Rail pays for itself and has less maintainence, efficient land use. Highways and Cars have no way of ever paying for itself other than through high taxes from the Oil and Gas lobby like yourself.
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>>1950043
>but Rail pays for itself
Which ones?
>and has less maintainence
Source: my ass
>Highways and Cars have no way of ever paying for itself
Why do you think toll roads are built? To lose money? They actually pay themselves off unlike passenger trains.
>Oil and Gas lobby
Those aren't capitalized, fyi.
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>>1950045
>Which ones?
It pays for itself through serving the public and businesses themselves. Especially being a hub of destination spots.
>Source: my ass
>>1938510
>Why do you think toll roads are built? To lose money? They actually pay themselves off unlike passenger trains.
Source?
Also if you are going to troll and waste time being apart of the Oil & Gas Lobby then stop seething and wasting my time.
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>>1950045
>>1950031
>>1949940
>>>/o/
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>>1950045
>Why do you think toll roads are built? To lose money? They actually pay themselves off unlike passenger trains.
Are you stupid?

https://www.heise.de/news/Studie-Strassenverkehr-deckt-Kostenbedarf-nur-zu-36-Prozent-6196574.html
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>>1950077
Only America exists, Mr.Klausenstein.
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>>1938515
Where does one go to get news about this subject? Ie. news about thing like land use policy reform, zoning reform, legalizing missing middle buildings, removing parking minimums, and expansion of infrastructure for trains, trams, busses, walking, and biking? I want to be able to keep up with this topic bunt don’t know of a centralized place to get information about this subject from.
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>>1938515
Oh no coastie bros we got too cocky
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Is high density on a water front a mistake? Limiting a direction of travel seems bad unless boat travel is involved which seems more of a headache to have.
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>>1950697
waterfronts should ideally be a mix of public spaces and medium-density mixed-use buildings.
I'm not sure how high density on waterfronts affect travel, San Francisco pulls this off pretty well with the ferry terminals, streetcars and BART.
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>>1950740
the whole embarcadero area and SF bay ferry is pretty kino



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