How are they able to pull such a good value on bikes? They have to cut corners somewhere right? Are their bikes built by children in Cambodia or something?
Idk their cheap bikes are pretty hideous, those of a superior price point are cool but if you have to spend the extra hundreds more it's just best going for a better brand just to avoid the decathlon shame
>>1934163>it's just best going for a better brand just to avoid the decathlon shameTheir bikes aren't branded Decathlon to avoid this situation. Nobody would want to pay 1,5k for a 'Decathlon' bike but a 'Rockrider'? Why not!
the bikes are built in India
>>1934163They buy in bulk, so pay less per unit. There's always a trade off when buying cheap mass produced anything, with bikes it's better to buy a quality low mileage used bike if you're looking for something that's going to last and hold, or even increase, its value.You'll struggle to even give away a second hand decathlon bike, so any savings you think you're making on low price is wiped out by zero resale value.
they sell other shit tooand if you think about it the parts of a bike can be produced cheaplythey are the equivalent to storebrand cookies or coke, its the same tier product that is cheap to get customers in and as they sell other stuff they might make more off of it.plus theese stores here at least are huge with many customers but not much more wagies, so they can make less per customer and still be better off than a bike store.
>>1934169Brands exist to at best distract and at worse outright lie to the consumer. All companies should sell their stuff under their real name, ie the one that figures on official documents. And if the company is publicly traded then it should sell under the name of the largest shareholder.
>>1934164>it's just best going for a better brand just to avoid the decathlon shameits best to spend an extra hundreds of dollars so you dont look poor? form > function
>>1934163>mfw my bike literally says "made in cambodia"
>>1934367>too poor for made in china
>>1934391>Implying that something manufactured in China is more reliable than if it was made in another asian countryGod I swear I would rather use stuff made in Laos or Myanmar rather than China
>>1934164>it's just best going for a better brand just to avoid the decathlon shameTruly fascinating to see the consoomer mindset at work.
>>1934339Selling under their real name would be a nice improvement, but please for the love of god stop plastering the company name on everything. I hate how there's the name of the brand of the item on everything these days. On your socks. On your underwear. On your bike. On your seat. All in large obnoxious lettering. I don't want to be a living billboard for brands ffs. Let the design speak for itself rather than trying to let the marketing carry it.
>>1934164>but if you have to spend the extra hundreds more it's just best going for a better brand just to avoid the decathlon shameI MUST CONSOOM
>>1934579>buying clothes that have visible brandingThere are plenty of clothes that don't have any. Underwear might be the hardest to find but who cares since that's not supposed to show anyway.
>>1934163>How are they able to pull such a good value on bikes? They have to cut corners somewhere right? Are their bikes built by children in Cambodia or something?Made in Portugal, western educated people earning 700€ minimum wage. As productive as Germans, as cheap as Chinese... Something is fucking wrong in this country.
>>1934590>Made in PortugalMade, or assembled?
>>1934358>>1934393>>1934587spending 1300€ at Decathlon for a MTB is retarded, you better off with a brand that doesn't make you look like the average Joe dumbfuck that buy from the first option available instead of looking into it and getting a brand with non shame attach to it, I know you fags are not in good faith but my reasoning is immaculate and your terminally online memer reaction is laughable.
>>1934614When you do proper research Decathlon bikes are the best value at this price point. With a renowned brand it won't be 200€ more, it will be twice the price for essentially the same thing. It only makes sense to not care about the price of you're a semi pro or a very passionate amateur that's ready to spend 5000+ into your bike just to have the best of the best. For everybody else Decathlon bikes are obviously the smart choice.
>>1934614>you better off with a brand that doesn't make you look like the average Joe dumbfuck that buy from the first option available instead of looking into it and getting a brand with non shame attach to it,its best to spend an extra hundreds of dollars so you dont look poor? form > function
if americans were cut off from cheap overseas bikes and had to buy bikes manufacutred (or remanufactured) in the usa, then maybe many less bikes would be getting tossed to the scrapyard
>>1934652imagine kid turns 16 and his dad gets him an old beater 10speed and they spend the summer fixing it up together, lmao AMERICA!
>>1934614Nobody who isn't mentally ill recognizes a Decathlon bike, let alone judges the owner for it. The frame and wheels probably areof worse quality compared to the renowned manufacturers but the price makes up for it. And if you don't buy the cheapest ones you get Shimano brakes and shifters so no issues there
Decathlon bikes are heavy.Except Van rysel but they have very boring colours.
>>1934163superior french touch
>>1934614Can I have your insta @, good goy? I have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of ridiculously priced and heavily marketed branded goods to sell to easily manipulated idiots, I mean "status-conscious and aspirationally-minded individuals," like you.
>>1934667As much as boring colours are, well, boring, it means nothing in the face of riding a heavy bike.
>>1934163Are you referring to the list prices or the "oh shit no one wants to pay $1200 for a decathlon bike we need to cut the price in half" prices?https://www.decathlon.com/products/rc-120-disc-326838https://www.decathlon.com/products/triban-rc-500-disc-road-bike-306241>$900/$500 for microshit/promax mix 8 speed, $1200/$700 for sora/microshit/promax mix 9 speed>all other components "Triban" branded, aka generic chinkshit>almost 25 poundsEven the clearance prices are barely reasonable
>>1934991What's wrong with Microshift. I went from a $300 single speed directly to Shimano 105 latest gen so I have no experience with anything else. Is it really that bad?
What decathlon bike I should by, I want to install an electric engine to it later
>>1935024>I want to install an electric engine to it laterWhat don't you buy one with an engine already instead of creating a fire hazard?
>>1935024for a mid drive any bike any brand with a 1x chainring up front will be easiest to convert with best odds of having good chainline. >>19350292k euro for 250w motor with no throttle is not very good but that bike looks decent if you don't want a project to tinker on or if that's all you're legally allowed. you might end up fucked later if you need a replacement battery and they've discontinued that form factor. >fire hazardcheapo batteries are the fire hazard. avoid unit pack power brand batteries or anything off ebay wrapped in blue shrink. em3ev batteries have a good reputation. their packs have multiple fuses or even fuses on each individual cell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNfTEHBz_bg
>>1935006I found their shifters a bit rubbish but the derailleurs are 10/10, awesome clutches
Nice prices>>1935029So I buy the top one and install Chinese 1000W engine for 800€
>>1934991I bought the winter edition of the rc500 with 11sp 105 and fenders for 1k for comute. also gravelnif I feel like it it's reasonable these days I guess if you count on how good and fast their warranty workswhat's a better deal than that?
>>1934619>>1934651What about resell value? Decathlon will probably devalue much faster than a Trek, Merida or whatever.I usually just buy used bikes, improve them in some way, get bored of them and sell them
>>1936167>buying bikes for resell valuelmao
Wait, there are decathlons in the US? I thought they were a European thing?
>>1936205There aren't many Americans on this board. Too fat to ride a bike anyway.
>Riverside 120Let me guess, you NEED more.
>>1934166it just works, what else do you need?
>>1934312>muh resell valuegood thing I plan on using my bike to failure then
>>1935192>what's a better deal than that?The RC520 unironically
>>1934163>How are they able to pull such a good value on bikes? They have to cut corners somewhere right? Are their bikes built by children in Cambodia or something?Same tricks direct sellers like Bikesdirect use. Anything not named is crappy eg, wheelsets handlebars, seatposts. Their lowest end is into BSO territory . You get what you pay for with zero brand premium. The very lowest rung of bike store bikes are much higher than the lowest rung of B'twin.
>>1936773We're not talking about the BSO levels, we are talking about the good value pieces. But you are right on the not named stuff especially those damn Formula hub wheels literally every seller gives even on their highest tier bikes, Trek, Cannondale, Merida, Giant etc...
>>1936773>>1936775And the FSA cranksets on the full priced $5k carbon bikes, don't pretend they're not real
I'm considering getting this for getting out around the back roads in Scotland. I don't want to spend more than £1,000 on a gravel bike and don't fancy a road bike either. Does anyone know if it's any good?
>>1936773>>1936776Show me another bike that's even in the same realm in terms of aero, comes with Zipp 404s or comparable wheels and Force AXS for the same price. And then tell me what better parts you need than on the Van Rysel RCR Force AXS.
>>1934393China has orders of magnitude more industrial infrastructure than Myanmar lmao, I'm going with China. Economies of scale
>>1936189>buying depreciated chinkshit
>>1937531I dont know anything about the dic brakes but I can tell you the rest of the bike is fine
>>1937531Get the RC500 instead and put bigger tires on for your gravel pleasures, it's the same frame. Bigger gearing range for the same money
>>1934991lets see a better deal then
>>1937531RC120 has the derailleur hanger as part of the frame, that is a big problem because it damages the frame if it gets bent. RC520 has a replaceable hanger piece that is designed to be weaker than the frame protecting it in an oopsie bender
I got the decathlon single speed. The frame and the wheels seem good for the price. Every single part of the drive train is complete and total garbage.
>>1937531>Does anyone know if it's any good?>1x meme which is fine in itself, but not a proper narrow-wide, just a random SQUARE TAPER city bike crankset>cable brakes>microshiftwhat you actually want for that, if you will excuse the meme, is a rigid 90s MTB with slicks.
>>1936776FSA is BSO shit
>>1938819Fsa works on my machine. Have they gotten that bad in the last decade?
>>1938789>Every single part of the drive train is complete and total garbage.>single speed.wow... that's not even easy to fuck up
>>1938820it's just kind of uncanny valley, like Truvativ. both scream "BSO" to me.
>>1934991£25? shit that is a pretty good deal.
>>1938823Really? I have taken truvativ hussefelt stuff down double blacks on my hardtail at northstar.I weighed 200lbs or so at the time but am not a fast racer.Still, I like their stuff and the nod to the hussefelt stone in strongman.Some truvativ descendant cranks came on a bike and those are fine too.Is BSO bottom shit only? I am getting old so I don't know the lingo
>>1938817This, it fucking bullshit. I bought one of these things and I ended up putting a grx crankset on. If I would have k ow about aliexpress parts at the time I would have put those on. I bought ali hy/rd knockoffs as well lol
>>1938820They are fine and could be good if it wasn't for the cashgrab profit driven policy of putting shit bearings on thinner-than-needed axles on the crankset, hence the FSA is shit meme. Replace with Shimano monoblock BB and you have a good crankset. If you are a weight weenie then it is a different story.
>>1938831BSO is Bike Shaped Object. Looks like a bike, works like a bike but in fact is not a bike but utter disgusting crap.
>>1938992>>1938819>>1938820Also it's not like they've been the only ones to put FSA crnaks on bikes. Especially Shimano cranks were unobtanium for a while and many brands were selling new bikes with Rotor or FSA cranks.
>>1938994okay, thank you for helping me with the terms.>>1938992Maybe I am just lucky so far or my mid 2010's stuff is old enough it's not shit. If anything I am impressed with my truvativ dh BB. The bearings are shot outside of the bike, but in the cups +bike they do fine. >>1939000checked, all my shit is ancient so I suspect it was just like usual if the bike was sram specced it got truvativ parts for a better deal.Speaking of brands my raceface stuff has been alright too. Came OE on the rocky mountains and hasn't let me down.
>>1937531i have the normal road version whats the tyre clearance on thiswhy did they put the retarded rc100 crank on this
>>1938821It's made correctly. It's just extremely cheap mystery metal.>>1938853It started squeaking on me and I replaced the bottom bracket. The cups on it are made of plastic. It still squeaks with a new one and a new shitty decathlon chain. I'm guessing the chainring is deformed. The chain tension at this point is too loose and then you rotate the cranks a little bit and it's also too tight. The chainring can't be changed either. I'll need to replace the cranks with it.
>>1937897what about the rc500?
>>1937531I bought this bike before covid craze, when it was much cheaper. It's fine for daily commute, however today, for the price, I would wait and buy something better & more expensive. Microshit shifters are completly fine. Brakes are mechanical and pretty bad. Derailleur hanger is the weak spot, you will bend it eventually. Oldstyle crank. I had to replace rear tire, they are not great for bikepacking if you are 110+kg yourself (I'm 195cm). Not worth the money today imo.
>>1939507I meant rear wheel, not tire
>>1939507>Derailleur hanger is the weak spot, you will bend it eventually.Isn't it aluminum? I thought it would break instead of bend.
>>1934163brb checking my years old b'twin riverside 120 for any signs of its manufacturing origin
>>1940273>sexually transmitted infectionno thank you
>>1936226let's do an experient.i'll get my TR11, you get your Riverside 120. i'll pay for both of us to go to the lift park and we ride only black trails and jump lines all day. sound good?
>>1934358If you beat people while you're riding a decathlon bike then they're the ones who will feel ashamed.
>>1941021Nobody buy such a bike to be competitive anyway. It will be true with decathlon and with the similar more expensive options.
>>1934163They seem top be the only manufacturer to have figured out economies of scale and not scamming customers with unnecessary vaporwareIt was about time someone did it
>>1944402They said the same thing about Canyon once. >>1941178>>1937588Van Rysel is absolutely going to get a brand premium or it's going to be shut down. They're supplying Cofidis WT.
>>1934163I have no clue, but damn their bikes are good. I'm not quite demanding, but the riverside 120 is a good bike. I'd recommend the riverside 500 because that one has shocks, so you wouldn't be railed by the chair seat everytime you hit a
>>1934339It would be a bit confusing to the consumer when 80% of the items they want to purchase are called “CALIFORNIA PUBLIC EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM”
>>1934163they're manufactured in Portugal (https://rte.pt: 1.3 mil bikes/year, 10% of new bike market in Europe)
>>1944654Don't want a gay retarded name on your product? Don't take money from gay retarded investors.
They are the largest sports chain in the world with the greatest negotiating power with suppliers and so get the best prices.Also they switched their lower end to Microshift because Shimano would would not meet their demands on prices. Expect Shimano to cave in to their demands now that the bike scarcity is ending.
>>1934614What exactly is the problem with 'buying the first best thing', how is that worse compared to obsessing about products and brands in almost autistic fashion for hours and hours before making the oh so well informed decision to buy at a premium at some hardly known boutique where experience with the product they are selling is limited to the 5 bikes on the road (of which 4 are hanging on a wall) ?I LOVE how, every morning, I get to see a few people who didnt buy the newest latest meme fat tired e-'bike' but instead just grabbed whatever they could grab and got out there to actually cycle.
>>1946872>they're manufactured in Portugal (https://rte.pt: 1.3 mil bikes/year, 10% of new bike market in Europe)Do you have a source for that claim? I don't think that's true.
>>1949387Portugal and France are the main manufacturing except for clothing
What should I work on if I'm upgrading from my rc520 and I want a more aggressive road bike that can handle bad cracky roads.
>>1949724You will need a Redshift stem for those roads
>>1949724If you mean upgrading your bike I would go with wider tires and a seat that fits you perfectly. Also cycling shorts.Wider tires allow you to run a lower pressure+give more cushion over bad oadsComfy seat(that fits) helps your taint deal with bad roadsCycling shorts help the comfy seat, but are not required.Do the tires first if you can fit 32's or 35's(looks like it has 28's stock).
>>1949840>>1949835Ah I meant buying a new bike, was gonna convert the rc520 into a gravel with wider tyres.
>>1936766But for how long?
>>1949387it's literally on the linked site, you absolute retardanother supplier is https://ajmaias.pt with 400k/yr
>>1949858>more agressive road bike that can handle bad roadsuhhh generally those are dissimilar things.Usually you either get more agressive with a TT, or track bike. Where as for bad roads you get a gravel, cx, or mountain bike.
>>1949923FUCK. I wanna go supper aggressive but my God the roads here.... Fucking ass garbage titties.
>>1949961Temporarily you could lower your stem+bars and get some add on time trial bars to see how it is.
>>1949858>>1949961You will still need the redshift stem on the new bike
>>1934169My dad bought me a Rockrider when I was 12 and it lasted 10+ years.
>>1949877Idk, I'll let you know when it fails