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Space transportation general. A general to cover all things spaceflight related. Since spaceflight is increasing exponentially, since we are up to at least a launch per week and since we are days away from a industry revolutionizing fully reusable
super heavy lift launch vehicle.

Upcoming launches:


Upcoming NASA operations:


SpaceX Mars goal:



Starbase 24/7 streams:



Starbase tour from last summer:




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Starship launch scrubbed today, should attempt again in a few days
Scrubbed for a single frozen valve
Some valves are more important than others. Could have been on the rocket or the ground support equipment. If it was a 19" methane supply valve, you wouldn't want that gushing into the BQD box with the hood down at liftoff.
>Some valves are more important than others
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it was always supposed to launch on 4/20
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I unironically belive this.
Is it just me or does this look more like a model rocket than a real one? Maybe I'm just married to the Saturn V aesthetic
Is that Hubble?
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It's because it is simplified for mass manufacturing and reusability. But honestly it will be so much more kino
>It's because it is simplified for mass manufacturing and reusability
That makes sense. Thanks.
Its honestly incredible how simple it is while being the cutting edge. Its the model T of rockets with a huge payload.
To advance, the space industry needed this kind of simplification. Something that couldnt be done by boeing because they grew fat off of government subsidies.

Lets hope it picks up pace and evolve the same way planes did, meaning we'll get warp capable crafts by 2060.

I fully believe warp capable crafts using the alcubierre method are the space equivalent to jet planes.
I don't think we need that yet desu.(also who knows if its possible) there is lifetimes of infrastructure to build in the solar system.
It is possible, the energy requirements arent reachable yet.
>It is possible
It's possible in principle, but in reality there is the problem that you probably couldn't steer your ship (because there is no known way of sending a signal to the front of such a bubble from inside of it), that everything inside the bubble will probably be fried by hawking radiation and that you will destroy everything at your destination with a burst of highly charged particles when you decelerate.
I saw a talk where an LHC scientist laughed at the plot of the DaVinci Code sequel. The total amount of anti-matter created by humanity if unleashed at once is barely enough to boil a cup of tea. Also since we don't even know how gravity works, I think there are a few gaps in our knowledge before we get to warp drives. The theories also rely on hypothetical exotic particles / matter that may or may not actually exist.
>The theories also rely on hypothetical exotic particles / matter that may or may not actually exist.
I think some German physicists argued that you could possibly create it without exotic matter by using soliton waves or something, but it's all highly theoretical.
A lot of workers at the booster today for there being a launch attempt tomorrow. Starting to feel like go fever setting to to blaze it on 420. Maybe a delay until next week is in order.
the arms won't move downward while catching the rocket
Ends in FTS. Lost 5+ engines on the ascent, then went into a spin at 2000 kph. Pretty good for a first booster flight.

Rover2 cam showed massive chunks of concrete flying near the camera.
"Your vehicle was damaged how?"
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Can the concrete survive a launch? Uh, no. Holy crater.
Saved some digging work for exhaust tunnel.
>ablative excavation
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Holy shit that launch was sooo kino
Huge slab of concrete landed on the tank farm helium tanks.
>hey let’s launch the most powerful rocket ever built with no way to safely deflect/transfer the massive amounts of energy it releases in a safe manner
>”Oh no, how could this happen!?”
Seriously, what were they thinking?
If I had to guess they knew even their first flame diverter would probably have gotten fucked so they decided to go with the cheap disposable option. It'll probably take at least 4 launches to figure it out.
Figures, they will have to make those flame diverters on Mars and even on the Moon if they want to do quasi regular flights to and from.
You have to do it as cheap and simple as possible, the big operations are not an option here.
Oh boy, they will have to rebuild the entire complex...
Those cameras were a lot further back than normal too. The vehicles were temporarily moved to the back of the SpaceX parking lot. Usually they are up at the road where those cones are and towards the left.
>cheap and simple
Digging a basic trench would help already. Tossing some steel mesh or fiberglass+epoxy to keep big chunks down would help immensly. Its not like they gonna launch from bare sufsce anyway.

Water supression system OTOH might be trickier.
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Saw on Twitter that non-SpaceX sources indicated that the Florida OLM ring is going to be sent by Barge to Boca Chica. Wouldn't be surprising as they are probably looking at a major redesign before they proceed with the Florida launch site.
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Starship Gazer posted a bunch of post launch pics on Twitter. Here's the OLM door that got blown off, bent in half.
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Some big chunks of concrete were flying. Entire slabs went airborne.
Even this is positive IMO
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A few shots of the damage. Honestly it doesn't look that bad.
Foundation is fucked, concrete was clean blown off the rebar support. Launchpad is very much in bad shape, it is unusable, can’t be fixed only demolished and rebuilt with a flame diverter trench
Also chopsticks looked droopy after launch so there could be problems within the tower structure as well
why no launch table ?
It would be nice to see a sub-orbital Starship launch while they fix the orbital launch site. Might be able to do a ballistic trajectory into the gulf to test reentry.
Regulations probably would require too much time and starbase is more of a test facility.
For those of you that don't know. Its called the Starship and its about to change everything. Normies are focusing on the launch pad breaking and SpaceX terminating the flight after losing control from engine loss(due to debris).

But that is not significant. SpaceX just proved the concept and passed huge milestones in this test flight. Now that the concept is proven, it will simply take some time to perfect it.

>but muh explosion

That is how SpaceX develops so quickly. It is called iterative design philosophy. It fleshes out problems faster and more thoroughly than traditional methods. They did this with their other products, which are now the safest on the market. See https://youtu.be/bvim4rsNHkQ for proof.

>but it's not even close to operational

It is close. Maybe a year away from its first operational iteration taking commercial payloads. Pic related is a brief summary of the testing, iteration, and progress they have made(with their future vision).

>Why is this important

As calculated right now, it will put 250 tons in LEO and 150 tons to the surface of the moon or mars. It is entirely reusable, and they designed it to be mass manufactured. That means space infrastructure, habitation, and industrial ventures will become available/affordable.

Starship is the caravel of the modern era. We are on the precipice of national expansion, nation building, solor colonization, earth domination, and industrial expansion on a scale we have NEVER experienced before.
I really don't think they'll ever need to do one again..
>>but muh explosion
>That is how SpaceX develops so quickly. It is called iterative design philosophy
It's also what NASA did sixty years ago. Before Neil and Buzz walked on the moon there were A LOT of rockets that went pop.
Exactly, its how things are done fast and done well. The shuttle era philosophy was out of necessity. It should never have been an industry standard
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Any aviation nerds here have ideas on starship seat configuration?
For reference 747-8F is ~ 750 cubic meters of pressurized volume and Starship is ~ 1,000
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Also, Skyora revealed some tech.
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>ispace update:

"the lander was in a vertical position as it carried out the final approach ... it has been determined that there is a high probability that the lander eventually made a hard landing on the Moon's surface."
park benches
keep simping, you'll be just like elon some day! any day now!
Looks like RGV got some nice launch site shots today after being clouded out last week.
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SpaceShipTwo makes first flight in nearly two years
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We also got a picture from blue orgin. May be project jarvis
Damn it's going to look sexy with proper pad without dust. Unless they go full Shuttle with water supressions and it's gigant steam cloud instead.
Implying their actually using this logic when it come to testing a base ship for the 2025 lunar landing mission... Risk the biscuit for that.. Sure sure
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Not possible with current starship design and the required insulation/shielding. Plus there will be more tanks for a crewed version.
>Unless they go full Shuttle with water supressions and it's gigant steam cloud instead
Really doubt theyd do that. its not cheap enough
They won't be using superheavies on mars
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Musk talking about the results of the Starship OFT
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FH launch. This is insanely fast expendable.
Does anyone know what happened with the second Axiom mission?
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They made Buzz Aldrin a Brigadier General.
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NASA and
are targeting 9pm ET Sunday, May 7 (0100 May 8 UTC), for the first launch of our cyclone-studying TROPICS CubeSats.

Tune in here and at http://nasa.gov/live at 8:40pm ET (0040 May 8 UTC) for live launch coverage from New Zealand: https://go.nasa.gov/42xYE3n
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Starbase construction is really ramping up. From today's RGV flyover it looks like instead of tearing down the production tents one at a time to build the factory, they are going to tear down some older buildings and build an entire Star Factory beside the tents. The first building segment that was already built will just be extra workspace.
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Down at Starbase they did a booster FTS test on a barrel section filled with water, went boom, fell over.
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I signed up for RGV's patreon a few weeks ago which has been nice. The evening after each flyover / ground photos session they do a discussion on discord and stream it on youtube. The air photos one ends up being around 4 hours so I just skim through it on youtube. With even the lowest patreon tier you can watch the youtube stream which I find more useful than looking at the raw images, and you get to see more than the limit galleries available for the lowest tiers.
How much did it cost
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Woke NASA element going down
Cheapest tier is $2 a month, I went with a higher tier because I was thinking in terms of gallery size when I signed up.
Not bad. Probably not worth it for me but decent
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Immensely complex & high risk
Honestly the new BO lander looks decent and it seems that starship forced them to go bigger
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For the lurkers, Blue Origin was named as the HLS for the Artemis V mission.
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Still embarrassing compared to starship HLS though
yeah but it looks way cooler and has a docking port. they're both so cool though, we live in such an interesting time
But the wind loading.
>kill it with fire
Is that a raptor 3?
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Wind load this
Nope just them testing the water cooled steel plate design they want to install under the launch pad.
Very nice, but didn't the old launchpad fail because the earth underneath buckled? How will steel fix that?
A bunch of new deep concrete columns under and around the OLM support the water cooled structure. The old columns were quite feeble with just a single piece of rebar in each.
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It's looking like they are going to use a lot of huge nitrogen cylinders to push water through the system instead of pumps.
Excellent. Thanks for the info. Sounds like a quick fix too.
Axiom AX-2 mission pre launch briefing (today at 6:00pm EST)
Launch stream (starts at 2:10 pm EST on the 21st)
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I want to be on mars so bad bros.
2 RGV flyovers this week, did a second one today.
Hows it look?
I gave up watching their review tonight and the images aren't posted yet. The person streaming the images wasn't the person discussing them so things were moving pretty slow. I'll just watch their weekly show tomorrow which was rescheduled to tomorrow.

Steady progress all around, more caisson drilling at the launch site, and concrete work at the build site. Moving pretty quick with the foundation for the factory expansion. Preparing a base for a stamping machine press is slowing things down on one end of it. The Florida site didn't get a base for one of those so bringing production of those parts (probably stringers) in-house must have been a recent decision.
Booster 9 and Ship 25 announced as next flight hardware.
RIP low bay. https://twitter.com/i/status/1662992937850904579

All the buildings beside the fabrication tents are getting removed for the factory expansion. I guess they can't afford downtime so they are making a complete second factory before finishing the first one.
Full speed ahead on the OLM improvements. Looks like all the piles are done. Then sheet piles around the perimeter of the new cooling system. Starting excavate that out now so they can add rebar and pour a base to support the water cooled steel sandwich.
Really? I thought they would go much further ahead.
Honestly its been up for longer than it should have been. If anything they need to get rid of a lot of the more temporary structures on site.
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Habitation tech is heating up!
How quickly can they get it operational?
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What I don't understand is how is boeing struggling so hard with this piece of shit. Like do they not understand how badly they are losing market share to spacex?
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Reposting from /sfg/


>On Friday, to celebrate the 20th birthday of ESA’s Mars Express, you’ll have the chance to get as close as it’s currently possible get to a live view from Mars. Tune in to be amongst the first to see new pictures roughly every 50 seconds as they’re beamed down directly from the Visual Monitoring Camera on board ESA’s long-lived and still highly productive martian orbiter.

>“This is an old camera, originally planned for engineering purposes, at a distance of almost three million kilometres from Earth – this hasn’t been tried before and to be honest, we’re not 100% certain it’ll work,” explains James Godfrey, Spacecraft Operations Manager at ESA’s mission control centre in Darmstadt, Germany.

>“But I’m pretty optimistic. Normally, we see images from Mars and know that they were taken days before. I’m excited to see Mars as it is now – as close to a martian ‘now’ as we can possibly get
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> The livestream will showcase images snapped by the probe's Visual Monitoring Camera (VMC), which was originally designed to monitor the separation of Beagle 2. Once it did that, the VMC was turned off — but it was turned back on in 2007 to snap imagery for education and outreach activities, and for science work as well.

>"We developed new, more sophisticated methods of operations and image processing, to get better results from the camera, turning it into Mars Express' eighth science instrument," VMC team member Jorge Hernández Bernal said in the same statement.
Related stories:

>Mars Express team members have spent the last few months preparing for today's livestream — for instance, developing the tools needed to get the VMC photos online as soon as possible.

> "This is an old camera, originally planned for engineering purposes, at a distance of almost 3 million kilometers [1.8 million miles] from Earth — this hasn’t been tried before and, to be honest, we're not 100% certain it'll work." James Godfrey, spacecraft operations manager at ESA's mission control center Darmstadt, Germany, said in the same statement.

>"But I’m pretty optimistic," he added. "Normally, we see images from Mars and know that they were taken days before. I'm excited to see Mars as it is now — as close to a Martian 'now' as we can possibly get
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>Augsburg, Germany – June 2, 2023. Launch service provider Rocket Factory Augsburg AG (RFA) has successfully hot fired its upper stage for a full duration of 280 seconds. This marks the successful completion of the Integrated System Test (IST) campaign, in which a staged-combustion Helix engine was integrated into an upper stage tank system and hot fired several times up to full duration in the final test. This is the 1st time in Europe that a privately developed staged combustion upper stage has been successfully hot fired.
> SpaceX pushing forward hard on Starbase. The Orbital Index newsletter has a good roundup of activities happening at the Starbase facility in South Texas a little more than a month after Starship's debut flight. Work on the launch site has included the addition of a water-cooled steel flame plate, repairs needed to fill in the crater dug by Booster 7’s launch, and upgrades to the orbital launch mount and propellant tanks. The company also recently confirmed that Booster 9 and Ship 25 are the test articles intended for the next launch. The launch site and rocket will probably be ready to go in about two months.

>The bigger issues are regulatory ... The hardware is only one side of the coin, of course. Approval to launch still relies on a few factors outside the direct control of SpaceX, including a lawsuit in which environmental groups are suing the FAA for what they claim was a cursory environmental review of the launch site’s impact on the surrounding wildlife areas. SpaceX has joined the case as a defendant since it feels that the impact on Starship’s development timeline will hugely affect the company’s financial future. The FAA is also looking into the delayed action by Starship's flight termination system. So fall, maybe?

It would be very nice if we could get some European competition for space expansion.
B9 is furthest along of the boosters and the first with electric thrust vector control. Many of the newer boosters sat in pieces for a very long time. Speculation is they wanted flight data before doing any assembly that would make revisions difficult to apply.
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The 1st Australian Made orbital rocket, Eris. Will be the 1st commercial orbital launch site in AUS at Bowen Orbital Spaceport. And starts a new G-class Satellite GSat program
Right but I would think that they want a post flight data iteration.

I'll bet anyone money that no more than 2 of the women in that picture did anything valuable on this project while the remaining 2 were actually just valuable, intelligent women who had a lot to contribute. Most probably work in HR or something, sending out mass spam e-mails about mandatory gender equality PowerPoint videos everyone needs to watch or they'll get written up.=
Same with the 6 browns
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I'll give you one guess.
Not enough rust
Seriously, like did they pull that from a shipwreck?

Nothing wrong with either groups you just know most are only there for diversity.
That is what is wrong with them and I am sorry but after working with the 2nd category I can assure you that we gain nothing from it.
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Beautiful launch
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Successful Vulcan fueling test
Steel columns are going up for the Starfactory expansion, and first sections of roof frame being pre-assembled. They are wasting no time ripping out the concrete pads around the buildings they tore down last week.

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