fixed gear editionLinks:Park Toolhttps://www.youtube.com/@parktool/videosSheldonhttps://sheldonbrown.comRJhttps://www.youtube.com/@RJTheBikeGuy/videosPrevious: >>1895574
Yeah fixies are still gay
>>1897842>sexyyeah right, remove the 30lbs of makeup
>open bike manualthoughts on this cleaning schedule recommendation?
>>1897853Autism
http://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=43http://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=44http://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=172http://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=173Which of these are the best and are any of them actually better than shitmano r451?
>>1897857there is nothing wrong with ebikes
>>1897859wrong
>>1897860whats wrong twiglegs? jelly you're not talibanmaxxing?
>>1897853>chain>weeklymaybe i dont ride enough but damn, that would suck
>>1897864That's about the only part of that list that *isn't* insane.
>>1897853yearly service is ok depending on mileage and weather exposure
>>1897865am i doing it wrong then? i wipe my chain now and then, add a drop per link maybe once a month. it looks oiled and nothing seems to wear faster than other parts. weekly seems excessive
>>1897867Depends on how much you use it but it sounds good to me.
Do Ultegra BR8070 brakes worth double the money of 105 BR7070 brakes?Are there any road compatible MTB brakes for flat mount?
Should I buy this for my next project? I need a cheap bike to get around on but would make some subtle aesthetic upgrades and give it a proper service.
My current bicycle tire is 53-559 (26" x 1.95").I'm looking to buy new ones but its hard to find the exact same, will a 50-559 fit or rather 54-559?
>>1897872Everything 105 or higher performs the same>>1897873Even on that tiny picture you can see it's covered in rust.>>1897874The 53/50/54 is the width in mm, any of those should work unless you have literally zero extra tire clearance to spare.
>>189787426" / 559 tires are all broadly interchangeable. And the width listed on tires and how wide they actually are will vary wildly so it's absolutely pointless to fret over minor differences because they often aren't even real or are random. There are two considerations. One, how much clearance your frame/fork have, ie , how close the tires are to rubbing. You can measure this. Two, how wide your rims are. If you have particularly narrow classic rims, then a wider tire, say 2.3", might squirm under hard cornering, especially if you load the bike. You really don't need to find exactly the same. A narrower tire will be faster and a wider tire will be comfier. Although the -type- and quality of the tire are more important for both things. >tldrit doesn't matter get either.
>>1897875>Even on that tiny picture you can see it's covered in rust.what the fuck are you talking about. I don't even think that's a steel frame, retard >>1897873it's alright i don't like how it looks and gripshift and alloy frame... heavy group. but cheap. and fine. it's eh
Should I clean my bike after every ride offroad? My drivetrain was severely crunchy after my ride yesterday, but I don't remember this happening with other bikes. I started using T9 chain lube, maybe it's too sticky for offroad use? Is there a better alternative?
>>1897879>t9>sticky
>>1897879I have no idea what t9 is, but you generally want the thinnest oil you can get. So thin, you should be able to wash down the chain with water and soap reasonably clean.In wet dirty conditions you want to wipe the chain down and lube it after every ride. The only time when you need thicker stickier oil is when you put the bike into storage for a long time
Yo, I have an '80 Le Tour but I'm getting tired of the road geometry. Do you figure I can get 650B's on there with a generator hub and make it more of a randonneur? Probably brakes are the hard part since they're made for 27's
Mods please delete this and let me make the new one with a monkey riding a bike.
>>1897890If it takes 27" you can fit 700c wheels up to 32mm tires, maybe even 38mm. And there's a good chance your center pulls will reach the brake track650b rim brake wheels are not a common thing compared to 700cSource: I did this to my 1974 Raleigh Record Ace and it was fun as hell.
>>1897884>In wet dirty conditions you want to wipe the chain down and lube it after every ride.Ishygddt
I am going to upgrade my 2x9 mech disc bike to 1x11 wide range hydro disc sometimes later, planning around mid summer, I should be able to get all the parts until then. However I'm going to leave replacing the BB for last, so I'm going to ride 2x for some time.I am planning to get 11-46 cassette and eventually 40T chainring, maybe 38T. I don't really care about speed but I'll need easier climb. The cassette last step goes 37-46.Am I on the right track thinking I can limit the derailleur to go from 11-37 10 speed and have the last gear limited out so I can use the 2x crankset until I can get (and decide on the chainring finally) the 1x set? Current setup has 11-36 in the rear.I just don't want to buy a separate cassette for the temporary 2x configuration.
>>1897858The R315 will be a little heavier since there's less material machined away, but otherwise the differences are just down to finish and how nice the hardware is. Functionally they'll all perform the same.>>1897905Yes, you got this right. As long as you're not exceeding the maximum amount of chain that your derailer can wrap, doing that won't hurt anything, just means you won't be able to use all the sprockets on your cassette temporarily.
Is it harmful to keep hydraulic brakes engaged for hours on end when parking?Say you're parking your bicycle on some slope and don't want it to roll on its own. I know this is a common practice when touring/bikepacking, I was just wondering if this can have negative long term effects on hydraulic brakes?
>>1897858the latter two are pig heavy and don't come with cartridge brake shoesas for the first two, i'm not sure about their model naming convention, but the R539 is a bit lighter and has more similar design elements to nicer brakes like from campagnolo, the tektro quartz branding on the R737 might suggest that it's an older and inferior model
R737 is better according to this guyhttps://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?t=101788
>>1897956Generally it’s a good thing actually
>>1897962how so?
>>1897966Repeatedly and/or long-term squeezing of your brakes is the final step in bleeding them, it sets your pads to the proper distance and the pressure helps combine any air bubbles which helps them flow up towards the top, where it can cause the least issues. You’ll often see pros rubber band their brakes shut for a whole night after a fresh brake bleed, although in my experience, 5 minutes of on/off squeezing just about settles thingsThat being said I don’t understand how you’re having issues leaving your bike on a slight incline, have you tried turning the wheel?
Can I use a short reach brake fork on a frame designed for mid reach brakes? I'm willing to sacrifice a little tire clearance for weight and ride quality. 28s in front are fine and what I run now but am willing to limit myself to 25 if it would become necessary. It's hard to find new mid reach carbon forks that are a good value for a cheap bike, all the best deals are short reach. Discs becoming the standard only further limits the pool of all rim brake options.Being as cheap as I am I'm even considering the possibility of adjusting the brake pad to the top of the slot in the existing caliper rather than installing a short reach one. I'm not certain it would work and thinking most likely not - there's only 2mm of overlap between the 39mm-49mm and 47mm-57mm range of the two standards.
>>1897991probably not
>>1897956strap the front wheel to the downtube instead it's more secure
>>1897991>new forks>good value for a cheap bikewtf am i readingnew forks are several times more expensive than a decent used frameset. it's not cost effective at all. That's shit you'd buy for an $$$ custom build only.
How is cloth bar tape to live with? I put some on a bike I was selling and it felt pretty good riding down the street, but how is it when you are profusely sweaty and after a lot of friction buildup on a longer ride? What about when you shellac it? Is the Newbaums cushioned cloth tape any good?
Chinkbros...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8hfaJX7FU
>>1897832based>>1897991No, I tried it before I knew what the difference was and was met with disappointment>>1897890>>1897897Not that anon but here's a 1981 Le Tour with a 700x28c tire on it. I don't think you are going to find a rim brake caliper capable of stretching from 27" past 700c to 650b. You can usually only go from one to the other with the freakishly long tektros like in >>1897858
>>1898040Nevermind >>1897991 I misread your post. Yes, you can do that if you make sure the new fork has the same dimensions as the old one. You'll have to buy/have two different brake sets, though. It's financially pretty stupid as >>1898031 said and I don't recommend doing that. If the bike is valuable or sentimentally valuable you can get some nice mid reach brakes like https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes , but they cost a pretty penny. Only worth it if the frame is something special. Make sure to keep your rims clean and buy new pads to maximize the strength of your current setup.
>>1897890>>1898040MAFAC Raid has a -lot- of reach. I tried to use them recently for a 27" - 700c conversion and they were too long. Probably would do 27" - 650. Good luck finding some though lol, you can't have mine. BMX brakes are also often really long, although they suck.
>>1898043Yeah forgot about those. He could get some MX 1000's and suffer (but look cool)
>>1897853I've never done anything of that ever and my bike is just fine lmfao
I'm trying to shorten a new chain and finding it impossible to break. the rivets don't have the little divot where the chain tool should sit (picrel) in and applying all my strength, they don't budge. I'm afraid of bending the links if I go harder with leverage. is this normal?
>>1898032I think shellac is dumb. The cool thing about cloth is the feel.
>>1898079I usually use an angle grinder for that job, do you have one at hand?
>>1897827Ok, redpill me on fixed gears. How shit are they on hills? Do they come with wider than the knife edge tires to navigate moon craters (affectionately called 'roads' in my hometown)?
>>1898085>Do they come with wider than the knife edge tiresYikes dude.... there is no red pill that can save your bluepilled sjw soi ass dude, just get a fat tire e-bike like the good mark you are and call it a day...
>>1898084I do have one, but I don't see how that would help without ruining the links? it's the new chain that's the problem, the old one came apart without issues
>>1898086> no cargo capacity> no fenders> brakes optional, and don't start talking about discs> only city tires (no trekking)And you call that a commuter bike. How the hell do you cope? Yeah, you're faster than me.
>>1898088Just put a drop of WD40 on the links before cut it, try it and you will be amaze of how easy it is.
potentially really dumb question but are tires sold in pairs or singles? i've not been to a bike shop in ages and i can't tell from the online store where im looking to order a new set
>>1898094singles. sometimes they come in pairs or bundles but they'll tell you so.
>>1898092okay, but then I'll just have a useless cut link at the end? how am I supposed to reconnect the chain then?
>>1898079yeah lots of them don't have the bit to sit in. what chain is it, and what chain tool are you using? kmc X series are pretty difficult to break. My Park CT-5 struggles on a lot of different chains, it's just kinda smol, gotta force it. All chains are designed to be broken. You just gotta make sure you're driving it straight. Yes of course something might break or bend on the chain or your tool but then that thing was shit and destined to be broked what are you gonna do
>>1898040why does the tire look like cheap plastic
>>1898119thats a fender covering his tire
>>1898090>> only city tires (no trekking)>moon craters (affectionately called 'roads' in my hometown)?
>>1898084>>1898098Don't use a fucking angle grinder. The tool should hold the pin in place well enough, otherwise just make sure the pin is centered and crank it as hard as you need to. The tool will break before anything on the chain (and if that happens buy a new one that isn't chinkshit).
Is there a fool proof way to secure a horizontal dropout on a vintage road bike so it wont try to kill you in the middle of an intersection because you aren't very mechanically gifted?
>>1898127have a nice frame where the dropouts are drilled for set screws
>>1898109>>1898125cheers, thanks. the chain is a shimano 6/7/8-speed one, and the tool is something like picrel. I'll try some more lube and leverage
>>1898129you don't need to lube... when you're working on bikes you should break things instead of have them break you, then you win
Is compression bag worth buying for the sleeping bag? I usually pack it into the saddle bag by itself but that means if I want to get something from the bag I have to completely unfold the sleeping bag
>>1898137fucking yes absolutely good ones usually come with them
>>1897827Is this lady so tiny, or is this bike so huge?
>>1898129Yeah keep giving money away to the toolrabbi, an angle grinder will do just the same, easier and you can do it right now and be riding presto.
why have fixie fags never recovred from this video?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-4nCCBJqLA
>>1898174>Fat guy cope Discarded
>>1898174i haven't watched it but isn't it about some cheap BSO tier newfag bait? most fixed gear enthusiasts do custom builds or at least pick a decent chromoly steel starter bike.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5kinIWX5Mc
>>1898171nigga please explain how I'm supposed to put a cut up chain back togetherI'm still waiting
I want to carry three liters of water, it's hot as fuck already here. How can I do this if I only have two bottle cages and no racks?
>>1898194seatpost bottle cage
>>1898194Camelback attached to rear rack
>>18981943l backpack. ive ridden four seasons all terrain from jumps to tech to flow to commute in 110f+ to -20f. problems werent, get a pack designed to have airflow on the back. besides, pack keeps sun off of you.then you can carry 5+ liters.
I have a fat bikeWhat do I absolutely need? a tire pump, some lubricant, what else?Any recommendations for what to buy?Pic related is bike
>>1898133finally got it done with the help of a long ass lever, feels good mantime to ride
>>1898210You gonna need a new pair of arms if you want to pump those tires with your standard minipumpBalls, well you already signed off on those, voluntarily. Try getting a helmet and some big mittens, maybe a pair of warm shoes for the 1/4 mile you're going to do on it then realize fat bikes are utter shite
>>1898210>What do I absolutely need?Another bike
>>1898206>>1898205>>1898195I ordered the seatpost bottle cages because it was the cheapest and lightest option, the Minoura one since I like their bottle cages. Camel pack is the most expensive option, pack keeps sun off of you but I really don't think I would be able to deal with the extra weight on the shoulders (kilo per liter not including the pack and bottles) regardless of how much more sweat it could make me. We will see how this goes and if I change my mind. I am riding off road so if it sucks I can just transfer it to my road bike which has one bottle cage mount, no loss.
>>1898220I've been riding, it takes some leg work but I can ride longer and longer the more I practice, it's just about building muscle realistically
>>1898227It's a shitter and you know it
My chain keeps sliding when under heavy load (e.g. accelerating) when on the 3rd wheel on the rear casette. It doesn't jump to another wheel, it just slides through and this only happens when on the 3rd wheel. It's a new CN-HG93 I installed on a complete 20 year old rust bucket that I got for $20 and that I restored. The old casette is still on but I cleaned it. How can I fix this?
>>1898235since the chain is new that means the cassette is blown. drop a new one on the hub
>>1898210
>>1898236This. If you haven't changed your chain in years and have worn the casette with it chances are the new chain will not sit on the casette well. Clean and change your shit regularly.
>>1898242>change for a pay phoneGood luck with that.
I want a cheap bike for getting around the city (Portland, OR)I also want a cheap conversion kit for an e-bike since I heard this is the way to go. What should I get?
>>1898194If you don't mind spending some money this system looks pretty nice for expanding storage capacity.https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/b-rad-system>>1898220The absolute quantity of air in a tire is proportional to the pressure multiplied by the tire volume (proportional to tire width squared), so a 10 psi, 4 inch fat bike tire will only need about 60% more air than a 100 psi, 1 inch road tire.
>>1898242>MAINTENANCEIf this list is for basic maintenance you don't need a lot of that shit (especially all those wrenches) but probably do need more small allen keys. If it's meant for more serious maintenance it's missing like 20 things.>7. Standard slip joint pliersIf you're trying to use pliers on something you're almost certainly fucking up.>TRAVEL TOOLSAlso ideally tire boot, chain quicklink, and $20 to bribe some random stranger to drive you home if you don't have another way to get a ride.
>>1898225btw you can put 1.5 litre bottles in regular bottle cages if you just bend them open then add a strap
>>1898247>>1898262I thought the manual was trustworthy bros...instead it's written by some non-bike riding boomer...
>>1898262>$20 to bribe some random stranger to drive you homegood luck with that
>>1897827conti gatorskin or 4 season 28mm tire? I commute a lot in the american southwest (dry). Looking to go fast and have a good enough grip for dirt on the road (not necessarily dirt roads but that would be nice) and the occasional rain
>>1898266sorry not 28, probably more like 25mm. Running 23mm right now but want to buy the largest tire i can get which might in fact end up being 25 and not 28 if that even matters.
>>18982664 season easily
>>1898268please elaborate
>>18982664 season is the modern gatorskin. Consider 32's
>>1898269gatorskin is a stale meme that remains popular because of its name and reputation as a good puncture resistant tire from years back but it has a terrible ride quality and weak grip making it sketchy in the wet. gp 4 season is a newer tire which is very fast, grippy and has plenty of puncture resistance when used with quality inner tubes fitted with the proper tire mounting technique.
>>1898252buy a stolen bike
>>1898272>fitted with the proper tire mounting techniquelol cmon bro, if it's on it's on
>>1898274people just shove the tube in haphazardly so that it gets unevenly stretched and twisted. people break latex tubes all the time because those are more sensitive but butyl tubes are affected as well. it's always certain people that are "unlucky" with punctures and other component failures on their bike.
>>1898275kek I guess I have too much faith in humanity
>>1898274i agree with him most repeated flats are the result of not tracing punctures correctly and repairing rim tape or removing debris and many are also due to the use of tire levers when installing, cos people don't know the hook/well trick
>>1898273so craigslist?
>>1898252>I want a cheap bike for getting around the city (Portland, OR)post a link to your craigslist and height and what you mean by 'cheap' and i'll make you some recs. >I also want a cheap conversion kit for an e-bike since I heard this is the way to go. What should I get?bafang bbs02b
>>1898281dunno, I assumed you'd walk around niggers asking if anyone is selling bikes
>>1898272thank you for this context
Are bicycles will small wheels better than bicycles with large wheels
>>1898263the issue with big bottles in the seat tube bottle cage is that they rub on my legs or are too tall since i ride such a small frame.
>>1897827>>1897830I want to sniff her seat hehe
>>1898266Just Say No to Gatorskins
I have a road bike that's (a bit) too small for me. It's got a 51cm top tube, and I'm 173cm (short legs, and long torso). It's an older steel frame and has a 10cm stem and those classic handlebars with a reach of 10cm. I know that usually for such a small bike 12cm or even 13cm stems are not recommended, but would there a lot problems with using such a long stem? I know it affects the center of mass and would make the steering a bit slower etc., but would it still be ridable?>inb4 just get a bigger frameYeah I will, in the future.
>>1898354>but would there awould there be*
>>1898354>but would it still be ridable?Yes, if it makes the bike fit you better. Stem length doesn't affect handling as catastrophically as you seem to believe, and you can usually get used to how it handles.
>>1898357Ok nice. I already have a 13cm stem laying around. I put my hands as far forward as I could while still holding onto the brake levers the last time I rode and that was pretty comfortable. Right now it's a bit cramped. It's a pain in the ass to change the stem though, because it's a quill without a front plate, but I guess I'll have to try it out.
>>1898358>I guess I'll have to try it out.This is often the best way.
Any favorites for long-distance bike traveling? Im talking about dozens of miles at a time.
>>1898032I used cloth tape when it was somewhat trendy, and it was fine to live with as long as it's lightly shellac'ed to make it waterproof and smooth. But I wouldn't use it again unless it was on a vintage bike for aesthetic reasons - it's more work to deal with and modern tapes are just better all around.>>1898328For the quickest possible steering and acceleration small wheels are better, but larger wheels roll over bumps and imperfections more easily.
>>1898267>>1898268>>1898271>>1898347I have another question. This is a picture of my bike with the current tires which are 23mm. How big could I go? is 32mm realistic? At the bike shop I was told that they'd be surprised if I could do 28mm.thanks for all the help. I've learned a lot in these threads.
>>1898395That's not much of a gap, if that's with 23mm then I don't think you could go bigger than 25mm.
>>1898174https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiMqIxIZ9s
>>1898395Your bike is gay that is why it can't take bigger tires. Get something more many that takes a bigger girth more easily
>>1898404I meant *more manly
>>1898395older 23mm tires might be closer to 25mm in reality but that's not much of a gap to work with, forget about 32mm
>>1898378Bikes with no decals at all are so fucked up
>>1898401>>1898404>>1898408thanks for the help. I'll probably do 25mm conti 4 season
>>1898411I will take them over tiny little "subtle" branding. I think it's kinda pretentious and dumb as if the thinking is "Oh look how sleek and sophisticated we are with our minimalist branding"No, it's just fucking dumb and looks like boring shit. It's a knee jerk overreaction to people who complain about designs that are very brand heavy. At least a totally plain single color bike can exist as a generic "it'a bike" object.
>>1898373favorite what?
recently ran into a bike requiring special tooling that cant be found from ali or ebay. only a handful of shops manufacture these.can anyone point me to youtube or somewhere else where i could see something like this being crafted from a solid hunk of metal? they probably do that instead of casting? any idea how hard these machines are to operate? how much they cost? i kinda just now realised that there are people who can make whatever they want from metal and that would be useful skill
>>1898480the toolhttps://area13ebikes.com/products/bafang-750-watt-freewheel-removal-tool-made-in-usa-by-bolton-labs
>>1897859except for things like degeneracy
>>1897867Its rain and especially winter in places where you actually get winter. Also dust. But IMO the rain is, on average, the one factor that is causing most of the need for frequent lubrication. It does wash lube away. Perhaps you don't get that much rain, perhaps you don't ride much. Going by what you've described you're all good. After all you can clean and lube a bike, hang it on the wall for a year and it'll be all good. Its all about mileage.
>>1898480https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtgU-o1YuWc
>>1898481they have videos in the description
should i get that mtb?i tried renting one and kinda enjoyed itdont know if i enjoy the logistics of driving to the place though
>>1898480this isn't exactly what you're asking about, but it is a great video showing manufacturinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYIV6O6tOvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5_7_yHsAk
What actually is and Enduro bike?Googling Enduro bikes they look to my untrained eyes exactly like an FS XC bike but with a bit longer suspension travel, but from what I'm reading they are essentially DH bikes.
>>1898529None of the MTB category terminology has meant anything since about 2004.
Best bike for trails under 1k I live near a lot of parks and wanted to ride them, but all the bikes people recommend are usually pretty expensive and idk what big box stores ones to trust any advice?
How are the 40-150 bike rollers found on Amazon? I want a roller but I refuse to spend more than I spent on the bike. I just got a 600 dollar road bike from REI.
>>1898127Closed cam qr skewers, mostly vintage ones
>>1898584Marin bobcat trailFuji jari steel
>>1898584>what big box stores ones to trustNone of them. If your budget is up to 1k there's plenty of options from bike shop brands so you can be confident they're actually assembled correctly and covered under warranty. Cannondale Trail, Giant Talon, Specialized Rockhopper, Trek Marlin, etc.
Is this worth 2k€? Mostly Ultegra components and it's supposedly 6,7kg. From 2017.
>>1898602Kinda hurts but in the US that price wouldn't be wild. From what I understand though bikes are a good bit cheaper in the EU and elsewhere in the world, I would see if there is room to negotiate if its a private seller. Its nice looking bike so I could see why you'd be interested.
>>1898602i wouldn't call it a bargain but it's not an unreasonable asking price considering inflation and the lack of rim brake bikes to choose from these days. an entry level aluminium bike with claris that weighs over 9 kg would cost around 1k and this is a much more desirable bike than that if it's in good condition which it looks like from the pic so it would be worth more than 1k easily.
>>1898604>they keep breaking downthey're literally engineered to look cool in the store but last sub-200 miles.
>>1898602>carbon wheels>Cheng Shin tires
>>1898604And yet you keep buying them.
>>1898612Is the picture meant to be you not understanding why someone would sell a bike with cheapshit tyres?
>>1898612why did you post a picture of me
>>1898585They are great. Ware down your tire like any other trainer and make a lot of noise but there's no real quality difference from a 100 dollar one and a 700 dollar one.
>>1898585>>1898618why would you need one? just go outside
>>1898584If there were no safety regulations for cars at all and walmart was selling a 4 door sedan for 25% of the price of a Camry with parts made by chinese slave labor and assembled by minimum wage stoners, would you buy it?
>>1898602https://csttires.eu/stradale/>tubularoh nonononononno
So I am looking to get into road bikes but really have absolutely no idea where to start. I've one owned mountain bikes and haven't really rode since i was a teenagerHow much is a "good" bike for someone who isn't trying to be a professional cyclist of anything but wants a quality bike they can use for years? Like how much should I be looking at spending upfront?
>>1898654Entry level road bikes are good. It's about $1000. You're looking at Claris or Sora groupset, alloy frame, and a carbon fork. Brake spec and crankset is where you can get gyped, especially with a disc bike, so if you have options you might ask for some advice on spec. Make sure you like the colour and it fits you. You can buy and overhaul a classic road bike for under $500 though, if you're handy. They're very good. If you'd like recs on used bikes post your craigslist and height.
>>1898654Roughly $800-1500 is what you should expect to spend these days for a good quality basic aluminum entry level road bike with rim brakes from a mainstream brand, and that will last for years and years (or until you decide you want to upgrade). That's where I'd start since you don't have any real preferences at this point.
>>1898657>>1898655okay so alloy or aluminum frame, carbon fork, get measured first, got it.as for disk vs rim, is there a preference? >or until you decide you want to upgradei am worried if i don't spend enough up on a good bike if i will just bored with it and want a better one, when i could have just got a good one from the start
>>1898665rim bike will be lighter, cheaper, and less likely to have annoying low quality brakes that cause you headaches. It's only a matter of finding one because most are disc now. disc bike will have more tire clearance. If you're athletic and want to go out and hammer around fast then the std 28mm tires you'll get on a rim brake are fast and ideal. But if you want to sacrifice some speed for comfort and make your bike better on dirt or particularly rough country roads or with a load then the 32-35 a disc bike will fit, or the ability to have tires + full fenders for rain, might be an advantage. A rim road bike is the pure svelte version of itself though and you should not be too enticed by 'versatility' unless it's -actually- what you want.>i am worried if i don't spend enough up on a good bike if i will just bored with it and want a better onethat can happen at practically any price point though. If you get an entry level bike and want it to be faster later, you can buy $$ wheels and tires for it and see a noticeable difference. I think even a good entry level road bike will kinda blow your mind if you've never ridden a road bike before.
>>1898665Rim is better than mechanical disc, hydro disc is arguably better but there are tradeoffs (weight, frame comfort, price).Unfortunately the industry has just recently decided to completely delete the entire $1,500 to $3,000 pricepoint, so unless you want to do a custom build with offbrand parts you either get a cheap (relatively) Sora bike that is great for everything up to entry level racing or a full blown race bike with an electronic drivetrain that offers barely any tangible improvement but costs a shitload more. You might still be able to find a bike with 105 R7000 (mechanical) parts if you shop around but they won't be available much longer.
>>1898637I absolutely would buy it>>1898584some schwinn bikes look decent but you're always better off buying something used. You can find bike stores that deal used bikes ready to ride. You can also post height and location to get some recommendations off craigslist
>>1898671>Rim is better than mechanical discsource?>tradeoffs>frame comfortwill you retards stop with this fucking meme already?
>>1898539I mean they still correlate pretty well to lengths of suspension travel, but yeah. Different disciplines of mountain biking pretty much mean absolutely nothing to a modern “pedaling + downhill” do-everything bike
>>1898676If stiff forks didn't affect comfort there'd be no reason to spend hundreds more to get a carbon one over an aluminum one.
>>1898681But you can still have superior compliance and superior braking power with carbon forks hundreds of dollars more, the other guy is just poor, which does not make the cheap option superior
>>1898684>everyone who disagrees with me is poorevery time
>>1898684https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ-ILIylaPE
>>1898681disc fork ≠ overly stiff fork. the meme that a disc brake bike is excessively stiff needs to die.
>>1898695>overly>excessiveSubjective. The only thing that matters is if it's *more* stiff, and the answer is yes.
>>1898665https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX82dvPDuEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQYGjDHnYeYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d2Vf9b-2Ls
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/domane/domane-al/domane-al-2/p/33037/this is great. there is no higher tier of frame such as caad13, allez sprint (rim brake versions were discontinued) so you're not really missing out until you're looking at $5000+ bikes which you really don't need as a beginner.
>>1898697I honestly don't believe that you can tell. I think there's more variation in stiffness between given forks than there is between a disc and non-disc version of the same fork. Also, "oh no, my fork is too stiff" ???? Really? Maybe try just not being a fucking bitch. I swear you retards will just latch on to the first thing you see in order to try and make a point. It's literally a non issue.
>>1898705Glad they stopped doing the pointless isospeed on the aluminium Domane.
>>1898707Tbh discs are fine but steel frame with rim brakes look better and high level bikes are so similar that looks is the only important quality.
>>1898709>but steel frame with rim brakes look betteryeah thanks, but I'd rather have my loaded touring bike actually stop in the wet mud than just "look better". do you faggots even ride?
>>1898705Domane AL isn't a 'high end' frameset (the good ones are 'ALR') and you can buy a rim brake allez frameset if you want that.https://www.specialized.com/us/en/allez-sprint-frameset/p/154236>>1898710>fat/poor/slow/doesn't rideplease get some new schtick
>>1898711>please get some new schtickoh sorry, i added a short sentence to the end of my post. does it negate my point? fucking retard.
>>1898712Your entire sad existence preemptively negates your point.
>>1898713it's just disc brakes, man. relax.
>rim brakes don't have enough powe-ACK
>>1898676>>Rim is better than mechanical disc>source?>>tradeoffs>>frame comfort>will you retards stop with this fucking meme already?>>1898710>yeah thanks, but I'd rather have my loaded touring bike actually stop in the wet mud than just "look better". do you faggots even ride?you fucking retard disc brakes are not better or worse than rimcontext is importantyou're completely ignoring it.
>>1898716i literally gave specific context in that second post, you fucking retard. disc brakes are just better. get over it, it's not that big of a deal.
yet another thread ruined by autistic disc brake bickering, yawn
>>1898717the specific context is the fucking cunt we're talking about not you cunt
>dick brake argumentsis someone posting from a time warp or what is this, are we going to start arguing about beards now or maybe even the new fixed gear trend?we settled this eons ago when hydro dicks became affordable and poors didn't have to cope and seethe anymore, dick brakes are just better, there's nothing else to discuss, crawl out from under that rock please
>>1898723we're talking about anon who is looking at an entry level road bike which would not have hydro discs literally no one is arguing with you about nonspecific nonsense so stick your penis into your asshole and walk away
>>1898711there is no domane ALR they're called domane AL, or SLR for the carbon version. emonda is disc brake only. interesting that you can still buy a rim brake allez sprint frameset but it's a fairly niche bike for experienced crit racers, not a beginners bike.
>>1898724>entry level road bike which would not have hydro discs bitch they all have hydro discs now unless you're talking about a literal walmart bike
>>1898727ohnonononono you don't even know what a road bike is
>>1898728ok thank you for confirming you shop for BSOs at walmart
>>1898723>hydro dicks became affordable>The claimed weight for the lightest (and most expensive) Allez Sprint LTD build is 7.9kg for a size 56cm.>Our size 56cm Allez Sprint Comp test bike weighs 8.8kg, according to our scales.
>>1898711actually the frameset isn't listed on the main allez page and you can't add it to cart so i doubt you can actually buy it. might be worth asking in store if you really want it i guess.
>>1898715listen you luddite, if he had disc he would have been able to go over the bars FASTER. That's what you pay the 200 dollar premium for.
oh you can get rim brake emonda framesets
>>1898741Better modulation is the main advantage of hydro discs, you just can’t do the same kind of braking on rim brakes or even mech discs eithert. have all three kind
>>1898638On a carbon rim brake tubular is the way to go
I am upgrading my bike based on an Ultegra/XT mullet. Would it be cringe to put 105 brake calipers on or do I have to buy the Ultegra brakes to look cool?
>>1898791You're lame for just asking this question.
>>1898797What front brakes are these?
What's the current state of carbon bits from aliexpress in terms of quality control and general reliability? I am shopping for a carbon seatpost and if you don't mind the gaudy logos they seem pretty neat.
>>1898808br-m732 >>1898754my brake systems best to worst:- flat bar hydraulic, no modulation at all but fuck so much power (cheap shimano)- flat bar cantilever, lovely lever feel and modulation, decent stopping power (retro coda / tektro cr-720)- drop bar hydraulic, good lever feel, shit stopping power (sram rival / grx)- v-brakes, bad lever feel except with fresh pads for first 100km, stops really good tho regardless of weather (sd7, deore)- road caliper, just bad (2010ish 105)drop bar braking generally sucks I feel
>>1898828meme material
>>1898796So 105 is okay, thank you
>>1898834modern high end shimano/campy road calipers with aluminium rims are plenty for the road at least. set them up with cleanly cut and finished brake housing and preferably jagwire elite link housing (or the aliexpress equivalent from wuhan china for a fraction of the cost, as a bonus it makes anons seethe) and with the appropriate pad clearance and toe in at the rim. the shimano r55c4 brake pad material alone makes a huge difference compared to older shimano/tektro/generic stuff.
>>1898828they're based you just need to use common sense to avoid the worst quality stuff (some handlebars are quite flimsy but name brand carbon handlebars have some flex too) and install them properly
>>1898723>has a picture named "coolhipster.jpg" on his hard drive
here's the lowest price listing that i was able to find at the time, they also have a $1 off $20 store couponhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004291042732.html
>>1898855it is insane that you shill a specific kind of chinkshit cable housing
>>1898726There used to be a domane alr but I guess they decided no one buying an endurance bike cares that much about lightness.https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/value-guide/search/?content=domane+alr>>1898731Could just be sold out. It's the new "aero" one so it can't be discontinued yet.
>>1898856it's insane that you seethe this hard about it. it's probably the exact same aluminium links as jagwire elite link that costs $70+ just the end caps etc are different. the advantages are numerous, it's half the weight of normal housing and it's compressionless, cheap and easy to maintain, looks bling too. the only major disadvantage of jagwire elite link is the price whereas the chinese set is quite affordable.
>>1898828Depends if you care more about saving $50 or protecting your taint from catastrophic injury.
>>1898828Chinks make some very decent carbon parts, and some absolute crap that would kill you. Before buying read some opinions about the manufacturer, avoid cheapest unbranded shit and counterfeits of more recognizable brands, be especially cautious when buying key components like handlebars or frames. Cheap seatpost should be fine, but if you're very unlucky it can snap and impale your ass, so be careful.
>>1898858>IT...IT'S MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY!!https://streamable.com/rw065j>looks bling toot. bought pic related because it looks "bling"
>>1898861kill yourself
>>1898862I already told you I refuse to buy aliexpress chinkshit.
>>1898863you would refuse to buy jagwire elite link housing as well because of the price or your ignorance of the benefits, so enjoy your outdated shitbike
>>1898865But you don't buy jagwire elite housing, you buy chinkshit knockoff housing and delude yourself into thinking it's the same thing.
>>1898866it's objectively better than standard cable housing in many ways
>>1898867If it was good on its own merits you wouldn't need to continuously lie about what it is.
>>1898868bike components are what they are, it's physically the equivalent with the exact same dimensions of the links, aluminium is aluminium, it's lightweight and compressionless, it's not magically unusable because it's not branded with gucci or whatever, kill yourself mentally ill tranny
you're just looking to stir up an argument, you're not offering useful advice to anons, you're just shitting up the thread, fucking mentally ill oddler
>ALUMINUM IS ALUMINUM!!
if you think the links are going to explode or whatever then you just lack common sense and mechanical aptitude
>>1898868
>>1898873kill yourself
i'm objectively in the right, you're just deluding yourself into thinking you have the moral high ground by riding some old vintage bike with objectively inferior braking performance etc etc
>>1898865>I’m poor so the cheaper option is actually superior
>>1898875>the guy I'm seething at stopped engaging with me so I'll make up a fictional person and seethe at that instead
>>1898876it's objectively superior in terms of bang for your buck. most upgrades at this level are considered frivolous regardless of how much money you have because the benefits aren't proportional to the price, but in this case the price is fairly reasonable.
>>1898877you know what, there's a reason why /n/ is one of the slowest boards on all of 4channel, you're just autistic in a very pathetic way and can't handle that some people participate in the hobby in a different way than you do.
Chang going hard tonight.
>I don’t care what the price is, as long as it’s made in US
>>1898879If you were worried about value propositions you wouldn’t have bought aftermarket brake housing
>>1898883most jagwire stuff is made in china you can get genuine jagwire stuff from china and the major online retailers such as bike24 sell jagwire stuff for a couple of dollars/euros
>>1898884ridiculous cope, even if i had a pleb tier prebuilt bike i would have needed to replace the cable housing eventually, especially if the braking performance was inadequate which was the original topic of discussion, and the maintenance over time is much cheaper because you only have to replace the liner
>>1898887Ya but brake cable housing is something you get for free at your local bike shop because you’ve spent $15000 there in the past few years
1 euro jagwire stainless steel brake cablehttps://www.bike24.com/p2266409.html
>>1898888maybe some generic chinese housing not jagwire elite link
If something is traditionally sold on a half-mile long spool, you’re a retard for buying 8ft of it and shipping it from china
>>1898891Shimano admittedly, but, you know, who the fuck is using cable brakes in 2023 anyways lmao
>>1898892you're thinking of generic cheap shit housing i'm talking about aluminium link housing that was originally marketed to freds for $70+ per set (you need 2 sets if you're doing both brake and shift cables) and has now been democratized by the chinese selling the equivalent for like $15
>>1898894But articulating housing is literally inferior to normal compressionless
>>1898894>democratized by the chineseNow there's a phrase you never hear.
>>1898893that's the point, clueless retards like you think you NEED disc brakes on a road bikes just to have adequate braking performance, but if you had reasonable modern brakes with shimano r55c4 compound, aluminium link cable housing etc you would be fine>>1898895doubt
>>1898897I haven’t considered owning a single bicycle with rim brakes since 2009. When my bike weight is teetering around 6.8kg I’ll revisit the option
>>1898898reddit moment
As a rim brake shill I would like to publicly disavow and disassociate myself from Chang and his garbage chink housing fetish. Regular shimano optislick housing (made in japan) is perfectly adequate.
>>1898895but anyway, if you want to use compressionless that's fine, the point is that rim brakes are fine especially if you go beyond the NPC route of using generic chinese dual pivots that come preinstalled on entry level bikes with generic spiral wound housing etc
>>1898730I head what you are saying but Specialized has never been a lightweight bike company- that's the S-Works upmarket brand.If you want to spend 3000-4000 on a Specialized buy the Tarmac or buy the Roubaix you'll like it better than the entry level Allez. The best Allez is always the cheapest allez. If you have more money spend it on the better frame. The Roubaix is a legendary frameset and the Tarmac isn't too shabby either.
>>1898906Is the the Zertz vibration-reducing stickers that made the roubaix so legendary
>>1898904All of those work fine. The biggest difference comes from better brake pads. But desu even generic decathlon ones are fine. People just need to... Get a grip.
