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General aviation- aviation in general. General aviation is not general enough for aviation.

"Only one way to pay off this debt" edition.

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what happens if you glue two f16s together?
would it make for a good plane?
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>>1877563
>"Only one way to pay off this debt"
Onlyfans?
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I could fix him.
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>>1877589
>DC-10
There's nothing to fix anon, it's a Douglas aircraft, quintessentially perfect
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>>1877599
that's a MD-11, note the center main gear
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Any Aussies here in ATC? How does one go about getting into it? I haven't done any studying since highschool so if that's requirement, what should I focus on?
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>>1877704
Imbecile, that's a 727, it has three jet engines
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>>1877599
Douglas made a lot of great planes but I wouldn’t count the DC10 among them
>>1877734
Fool, it’s clearly an L1011.
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>be me
>look young for my age
>regional FO
>Christmas Day
>not having a good day
>end of day terminating flight
>passengers begin to deplane
>get up and stand in the doorway of the flight deck to put on reflective vest to go do the post Flight walk around
>boomer bitch about to deplane
>”thank you”
>stops, looks and says
>”oh my god you are so young”
>turns around and yells to her husband like 5 people back
>”look at the pilot! He looks like he’s 12!!!”
>I look see everyone staring at me and laughing
>every bit of my soul wanted me to bash her fucking face into the galley counter but I’m not able to do shit unless I want to risk losing my job
>I quickly walk off the plane and exit the jet bridge before anyone else can say anything
I feel bad for all of the other FOs out there in my situation who are emasculated and insulted every day
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>>1877712
https://airforce.defencejobs.gov.au/jobs/air-traffic-controller
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getting up to 1500 hours as a cfi is like the grind to top tier planes in war thunder without premium
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>>1877894
Is military the only option? I'd prefer to stay a civvy if possible
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>>1876918
yeah I was thinking of moving to Florida seems like aviation central, and itd be a hell of a road trip from cali to there. its been hard not only retaining my sanity but finding a place to live for cheap in ca under $1.6k with no rental history and basically have no chance against other applicants who are closer there and have way more money/decent paying job.

But fuck, idk florida at all. And seems like id be driving to everywhere which would kill it's cheapness. been looking around orlando, kissimmee
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>>1877888
build some muscle
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>>1877888
>>every bit of my soul wanted me to bash her fucking face into the galley counter
Apparently you have the mental maturity of a 12 year old as well.
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>>1877930
easier said than done. i eat like a fat fuck and don't gain any weight. if you don't gain weight you don't build muscle
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>>1877888
Jesus Christ, what a weak fagg0t, why do you even care about the opinion of others?
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>>1877888
>he didn't crash the plane on their houses as revenge
WHO'S YOUNG NOW BITCH AHAHA
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>>1877779
>Fool, it’s clearly an L1011.
That’s a Dassault Falcon 8X.
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>>1877991
>Not recognizing the Tupolev 154
Delete system 32 now
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>>1877888
who cares? they're old wages. you're on track to be making six figures in your virile years
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>>1878035
old wagies*
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Got off a 12 hour home reserve period, no calls. I see a text from a captain i never met saying he’ll see me at the plane tomorrow morning several hours before my reserve period starts, damn bro that sux, I ain’t notified and i won’t be there.
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2023…Year of the MRJ
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>>1878424
Mesa?
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>>1878506
IN YOUR DREAMS SATOSHI
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>>1878424
Well? Did crew scheduling call you?
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>>1878506
Why do you think they bought the CRJ line from Bombardier? For the purpose of producing the MRJ in North America. Mitsubishi decided to cease CRJ900 production even tho it was still a very viable aircraft and was still making good sales. They did that because they want to focus on the MRJ
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>>1878506
I fucking hope so. Can’t wait to catch a flight on one
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Doing a final stage check before my instrument checkride this month. This rating has been such a pain in the ass for me, and I just feel like I'm gonna fuck it up.
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>>1878554
Nope, ACMI

>>1878728
they never called that evening, not that I would have been compelled to pick up anyway. I set my phone to prescheduled do not disturb and to automatically turn off at the start the next day, and so when my alarm went off I saw multiple frantic calls in the previous 45 minutes begging me to call back. When I called in they said it was already covered. I imagine someone on reserve across the country got called up to commercial deadhead over and operate the flight hours late. I'm just happy I was off the hook. They didn't call the rest of the day either and that was the end of my reserve line.

>>1878902
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. IFR is procedural and having the skills, nothing more. But for anything, especially a check, it's better to be lucky than good. Try to make your own luck.
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>>1878000
>Tupolev 154
Shut up, that's a Ford Trimotor
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>>1878908
>Nope, ACMI
What major are you hoping to jump to?
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>>1878974
At this point it appears like anyone but United would be good, though an airline that's geographically friendly to nix commuting would always be the best.
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none of the airlines have a domicile in maine. i hate my life
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name one thing wrong with these
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>>1879659
two piece fuselage instead of a single monocoque like Cirrus.
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Redpill me on the V-tail.

Is it an inherently bad tail configuration, or is the stigma attached to it from Beechcraft fucking up their design of the V35 Bonanza?
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>>1879659
>name one thing wrong with these
The price.
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>>1879659
Headroom.
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>>1879666
can it pitch and yaw at the same time?
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Anyone here with young families regret going into aviation?

I'm ready to pull the trigger on a career change into pilot life and the time on the road is what's keeping me back in regards to my kids. I live near JFK/LGA and plan on trying to get based there and do as 1-2 day trips as I can. Am I fucked?
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>>1877568
that kinda looks like the secret aircraft that might or might not exist. i love the tailless triangle concept. Like the A-12 avenger.

https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001
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>>1879659
Don’t they lack nosewheel steering?

>>1879666
Bad due to spin characteristics, good in theory due to less drag. Bad for rich retards who die flying it, good because I hate doctors anyway.

>>1879715
I have a young family and spend +2.5 weeks on the road every month. I’m just telling myself that “one day” it’ll pay off and be worth the effort. But of course its all for naught if my wife leaves and my kid(s) hate me for it. Its hard to say. I’m a true blue freightdog, never flown a passenger and I always think about the shorter trips that’d (theoretically) get me home to my wife and kid more often.
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>>1879666
can V tail side slip ?
https://youtu.be/hz4J8f6pkIk?t=34
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>>1879715
just fly passengers dingleberry. if you're really concerned about home life, just get with allegiant or southwest or hawaiian. ideally allegiant or hawaiian
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>>1879717
schematics
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>>1879714

There is pretty much no reason for you to make yaw inputs during flight.
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>>1879834
sometimes you find yourself drifting to the left if no yaw inputs are made
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>>1879834
i know it doenst count because no engine but gliders have to be controlled with equal and well timed aileron and rudder input when flying a curve. otherwise it would drift really nasty and might even cause a stall due to excessive loss of airspeed
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I'm going for a discovery flight tomorrow at one of the helicopter schools in town. I didn't think I'd be able to start lessons this year because my budget got really tight recently, but was talking to a family member at Christmas about it and out of the blue he offered to bankroll everything up to a commercial license.
Wish me luck lads.
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>>1879898
why helicopters
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>>1879834
wanna know how I know you only 'fly' in a simulator?
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>>1879898
we are very blessed to have a good family anon, try to make the most of it, I wish you good luck and hope we both make it
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>>1877563
>be me
>get into an airline
>do type rating for the 737
>feels good
>anon have fun after your psct, base will be the first and only time you’ll do circuits in the 737
>looking forward to it throughout Christmas, no call
>”anon the weather is expected to be shit we’ll be in touch”
>still waiting and no indications of anything changing on my roster
Goddamn
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>>1879917
Better non-coporate jobs, the ability to hover
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>>1878035
>has to read airline credit card offers until his retirement
Even bus drivers don't need to do that
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are there any companies in europe that would pay for helicopter pilot training? or is the market oversaturated with former military piltos?
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>>1880033
Lmao
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>>1879898
Discovery flight was cool. Hovering is hard. We did an autorotation and that was great fun.
I'm looking forward to more.
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>be at overnight
>walking back to my room from hotel restaurant
>walk right past captain’s (a 25 year old short blonde female) room.
>hear moaning
>freeze
>listen and hear more moaning
>she’s having sex
I don’t feel comfortable flying with her tomorrow morning. Should I call fatigue in the morning?
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>>1880315
Is this bait or are you genuinely this fucking autistic
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Why are there no consequences for airlines being so fucking shitty?

What other service exists where you pay so much for such a roll of the dice?

>pay us $1200 for a ticket
>will you even get to your destination? Idk maybe lol
>oh we lost your bag, sounds like your problem.
>we were late so now you missed your next 3 flights? Oopsy daisy lol no refunds

What the fuck is wrong with these companies?
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>>1880316
>autistic
Yes. But how would you feel if you heard your co-worker getting sex?
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>>1879666
Less the design of the empennage, and more that it was attached to a very clean airframe that tended to be operated by overconfident individuals outside their operating envelope.
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>>1880318
I would feel like it's a normal thing that people do regularly and that it's not any of my business
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>>1880320
But you heard it with your own ears
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>>1880321
>sounds like you had a good flight last night
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>>1880321
So?
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>>1880320
>I would feel like it's a normal thing that people do regularly
Do people really have sex regularly?
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>>1880323
kek
>>1880315
>>1880318
you went and cranked it immediately after that, didn't you?
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>>1880320
I don’t think it’s normal to just have casual sex with people. Most people don’t have a fuck buddy on standby
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Should have knocked on the door
>Captain I had a nightmare
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>>1880315
Why you didn't join her and fuck her too?
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>>1877888
I'm in a similar situation. I'm in my early twenties and pretty short and skinny. Even my family & girlfriend admit I look like I'm 19. I fly on the private side of the industry so the majority of our pax don't even acknowledge our existence. I've been flying professionally for a while now and honestly a comment like this wouldn't even phase me. I have 3,400 hours and bought a 2 story house with the money I've made from flying so peoples opinions don't really phase me.

>>1880315
Are you sure they were fucking? Seems like a lot of effort to find someone to screw on a 12-14 hour layover. Could have been flicking her bean.
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>>1880634
>Are you sure they were fucking? Seems like a lot of effort to find someone to screw on a 12-14 hour layover. Could have been flicking her bean.
not him. but i've heard FAs say that they know guys from tinder in different cities
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Newfag here, are A&Ps welcome in these threads or is it more of a pilot type deal?
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>>1880712
I'm an A&P, but I mainly just lurk. What do you work on? I'm almost entirely on the E-175 (it's a piece of shit) and the 737.
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>>1880712
Avionics engineer lurking to better understand how this world works with a goal to one day fly as a hobby
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How easy is it to get away with lying on your FAA medical exam? I have a condition that doesn't affect my ability to fly a plane in any way but nonetheless requires a special issuance that will take months from what I've read. If I just never mention it will they find out? And if they do what's the penalty? Do I permanently lose my license?
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Anyone here mess around with Part 103 Ultralights?
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>>1880827
do they blood test for the first class? i fucking HATE needles i've already had my fill at the dentist
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>>1880851
just a pee pee test
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>>1880851
It's like a physical, you pee in a cup and read letters off a chart
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>>1880860
>>1880875
i could have sworn to get a first class medical you needed like an ECG and blood test what the fuck
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>>1880887
EKG needed if you're over 40
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Hi, first time on this board and thread, I log all the tail numbers I see and like to check out where you went. Hello!
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>>1880827
Unless it's super obvious or your medical history is known by the fed already (military, etc) you can lie all day. If pilots were truthful on their medical exams, I'm sure at least a third of them wouldn't fly, or would at least now have to go through bullshit FAA red tape for months or years to fly again.

No needles, only a piss test (for diabeetus), and eye exam, blood pressure and heart rate stuff. Most docs who do FAA medicals forget that you aren't getting a regular physical and do a bunch of extra bullshit too. My doc (praise be to him) lets the nurse do pretty much everything, and then he shows up, catches up on what you've been up to for the last year (or 6 months) and hands you your medical. My last medial we talked RX-7s and RX-8s on the track. Who knew my doc was a man of taste.
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Helicopters checking in. Move over nerds.
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>>1880315
You fly better after a good fuck, not worse anon.
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>>1879715
You could be a chad and get into Rotorcraft.
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>>1879834
bruh
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>>1880959
N166ER
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>>1880959
>>1881140
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Starting my commercial soon and wanted to clean up my logbook. I’ve had CFI’s use white out in it during my private to correct times, and I’ve made some multipage crossouts for adding up time wrong back when it was a hobby. Am I going to look retarded at an interview? Can I go electronic and re-enter everything and not need the old paper logbook anymore? Or will a few mistakes be ok?
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>>1881148
Why didn't you write it in pencil and the trace over it later with pen. Much cleaner desu.
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>>1881066
I see you there, /sfg/ helicopter pilot. I'm starting lessons this weekend.
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>>1880700
Most FAs are whores, so no surprise there. I will say the thought of them getting it on with someone makes me want to puke, because my airline has a ton of granny FAs.
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>>1881241
Hey there! Lol yeah that was me sitting up the board while waiting for fuel.
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>major commercial airport requires an extremely complex visual approach on every landing that if you fuck up even slightly fighter jets will immediately shoot you down
Why can't they just use the other runway that's almost the same course and isn't facing the white house?
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>>1881333
Having to manually fly a slight turn scares the yellow man
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>>1881333
15 is shorter than 19. The river visual isn't that bad, just trust your feelings and you will be fine.
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>>1881341
Yeah DCA is easy. Now this is a fun visual
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>>1881333
>Why can't they just use the other runway that's almost the same course and isn't facing the white house?
19 is about 50% longer than 15. Depending on the winds in the winter, everyone will land on 33, but pilot preference is 1-19.
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>>1881333
lmao just follow the river. a student pilot could fly this approach
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>>1880328
Yes. Normal thing humans have done for millions of years.
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>>1880321
Lol yeah so what? You hear all kinds of things with your own ears.
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>>1879999

Hey friend.

1. Helicopters are awesome and good luck getting licensed. I love being a heli pilot and taking my wife on absolutely badass dates most women only get to watch on The Bachelor and shit.

2. There is no money in helicopters. You will never make good money as a heli pilot. In the words of my super salty flight instructor (who's main job is a Boeing engineering program director) with thousands of hours in both fixed wing and helicopter (about 12k total in his logbook):

"Don't fly helicopters for money. Make money somewhere else, then spend it on helicopters."
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>>1881148
Using white out on a logbook is a giant legal no-no. If you ever get into trouble, white out is seen by the FAA as hiding things. Obviously, if a CFI did it and it's obviously limited to early stuff, leave it there. The proper way to fix an error made in pen is to line through it in a way that makes the entry visible, and to add in the correct information. Don't scribble over the mistake either. Initialing the cross-out is optional.
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Well it was a good run while it lasted but it’s time to start planning an alternate career.
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Tell me the secrets of aviation!
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>>1881550
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kvQqdawXb44
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>Company denies application while simultaneously asking if interested in applying for the exact same position
For what purpose.
I know, spaghetti code, and trying to clean up all the old out of date applications. But damn mang
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>>1881549
>it’s time to start planning
ok. you get to choose between 'junior flight controls practical integration specialist' and 'data-driven real-time risk analysis feedback developer.'
Your new job is to sit in a chair next to the computer, look at all the data on the computer screens (wx radar, etc.) and keep the company (and passengers, and controllers) happy. Good luck.
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Started ground school this week. Highly enjoyed my introductory flight. Did a couple touch n goes and flew around for an hour. Flying itself felt natural to me, although I've played flight sims most of my life so the controls not a surprise.
However all the regulations and all that are pretty nuts.
The reason, I always wanted to fly since I was a little kid. I want to go be a bush pilot since that seems like a lot more fun than compared to flying for the airlines or large commercial stuff that flys itself.
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>>1877563
Can i still get on with a major if i go get experience at a 135?
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>>1881550
money, homework and luck
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All the other flight instructors at my school work 7 days a week and I think they look down on me for taking Mondays and Fridays off
I don't understand some of the people in this industry. I love flying but I also have things to do other than work.
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The Pilatus PC-12 makes me want to coom.
Post medium aircraft.
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>>1881871
Do these 'other things' include a social life?
Do you work saturdays and sundays?
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>>1881871
>I think they look down on me
Take the blackpill : absolutely no one on this planet cares about you
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>>1877599
*engine breaks off*
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>>1882048
What happened here?
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>>1881917
Yes and yes (weekends are the busiest days). I feel like it's only normal to have two scheduled days off a week, unless you work some other kind of special schedule like 8 on 6 off or whatever
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>>1882048
Blame General Electric, not Douglas
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>>1881549
Surprised they didn't start moving on this earlier.
Though Boeing with the 737 M*X issues has set them back decades. Who is going to want to fly in an autonomous plane if dodgy code will bring down a piloted plane?
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40 dead in nepal after plane crash
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>>1882198
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>terrible air crash
>twin prop in nepal
I sleep
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>>1882234
>68 dead
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>>1882235
Confirmed dead so far. The remaining 4 bodies not recovered yet.
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>>1882234
>bank angle 90 degrees
wtf is wrong with ATR pilots anyway? didn't we just have this in taiwan a couple of years ago?
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>>1882306
Turd worlders shouldn't be allowed to fly
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>Unconfirmed Twitter reports from Indian media:
>Pilot, male had been a captain for 25 yearsCopilot, female for 1 year.
Aircraft approach was in the opposite direction to what was instructed by atc.
I guess that explains it.
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>>1882325
>taiwan
>third world
found the obese shart
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>>1882229
We think Vmc roll or just a stall to spin?
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>>1882361
I'm no supreme expert but from Vmc rolls I've seen it's more violently nose up and faster, this looks like a bank into an accelerated stall if you ask me
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Haunting to see the passengers unaware of their fate.
https://twitter.com/Najar86512Razz/status/1614662383389249536
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>>1882376
Do you think the passengers would have died/been knocked out straight away?
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>>1882379
at that kind of speed I'd assume there were quite a few people who survived the initial impact but died from inhaling fire and thus asphyxiating
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>>1882229
just how
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>>1882198
Wake up babe
New plane crash kino just dropped
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Sorry just some retard tourist dropping in to say
>women pilots
on the JFK AA-DAL near collision on the 13th
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>>1881333
Does anyone notice that the black gate agents rarely call it 'Reagan' and say National or DCA instead? Am I crazy? They are wise enough to know not to invoke the name of Satan

I have a hard enough time spitting out Dulles, but DCA will always be National
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>>1882429
Were you on one of the flights m8
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>>1882229
Could this be an engine failure on the left wing while landing causing the plane roll to the left? I know I am reaching here, but why the fuck are they banking the airplane?
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>>1882445
>why the fuck are they banking the airplane
they are not, the left wing is stalled and dropping down without pilots' input. why is to be seen

engine failure at any phase of flight should be handeled easily and the flight has to end with safe landing even on one engine. but that's when >>1882325 might come up.
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>>1881333
I fly this approach a few times a month

>major commercial airport requires an extremely complex visual approach on every landing that if you fuck up even slightly fighter jets will immediately shoot you down
false
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>>1881333
>Top Gun: Maverick flight path
Based
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>>1882376
The fire rises
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>>1882430
controllers hate it if you refer to the airport as "Reagan" as well. Funny how with all the airport name changes they couldn't get that one amended.
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>>1882334
Seething third worlder detected
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>>1882429
AA was a 777. Are there really two women in charge of a 777 these days?
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>>1882498
taiwan has a higher HDI than your flyover shit hole
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>>1882229
That left wing dropped like a stone. Could it have hit some unstable air or mechanical malfunction?
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>>1882521
The plane looked to be at a high angle of attack so they could have stalled. Looked like landing gear was down, too. They could have tried to execute a go-around, put go-around power in, didn't compensate and got uncoordinated, and let the nose pitch up. Since they were already going slow they were probably close to a stall and that extra pitch up did them in. Just a retard on an anonymous Mongolian basket weaving forums' two cents, though.
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>>1882526
You could be onto to something though. Guess we won't know for sure until later.
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>>1882516
CHING CHONG BING BONG
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>>1882453
You can see in both videos that the plane is slightly banking though, even before the catastrophic wing drop
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>>1882541
yes, it's called base-to-final turn. just lining up with the runway for landing
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>>1881550
Everyone lies, to greater extent the higher you go and the airline industry is more resembling a mob than actual business.
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>>1882521
>>1882526
Compound this with the likely fact that they were flying under Vref, as the second poster said they were already close to stall with tailwind, going by what someone said about the approach being flown to the opposite runway to what it was being instructed by atc.
So low speed and high power due to flying in the unstable range of speeds, couple this situation with a number 1 engine failure that stalled the left wing (due to the reduced airflow from the engine), and we have a one wing stall.
At least that’s the conclusion I can get by reading here.
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What about the video with the burning plane midair? Fake?

https://northeastlivetv.com/international/this-is-supposed-to-be-the-video-of-nepal-plane-catching-fire-mid-air/
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>>1877563
Is it dangerous to fly with a really bad black eye? I got a huge black eye last night and I have to fly out in a few hours. Is there any chance flying could make it worse?
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>>1882376
>streaming on the phone instead of leaving it on airplane mode
No wonder it crashed
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>>1882626
Is it limiting your ability to see?
If yes then don't
If no then you're fine
If I misunderstood and you're just a passenger then who cares lol you'll be fine
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>>1882379
Some would have been killed knocked out, the lucky few, most would have been ROASTED ALIVE, fully conscious of the experience as it unfolded.
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>>1882635
I’m a passenger flying out for a job interview. I’m worried that the cabin pressure might make my black eye worse. What do you think?
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>>1882637
If that’s true then why does everyone in the video go completely silent after impact?
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>>1882638
You will live. Just make sure you aren't flying on Spirit.
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>>1882640
Why? Would flying on Spirit make my black eye worse somehow? I’m flying United
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>>1882643
You might get beat up by one of their lovely passengers.
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>>1882646
Hmm, that raises an interesting question. Which would look worse for a job interview: looking like half a panda or a full panda? Thoughts?
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>>1882651
>thoughts?
SEX WITH YOUR MOM'S VAGINA
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>>1882651
They would be wondering what you did to get 2 black eyes. Good luck on the interview, but with a single black eye, I doubt you will get it.
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>SHIT
>Delta 1943 cancel takeoff plans!

Thoughts? I'm a bit surprised there's no thread.
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>>1882727
Most influencers hate talking about this stuff, because you will have a horde of whiteknights shitting on you because a woman is involved.
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I’m an unemployed 35 year old neet with $75k in savings, with unlimited time and no real financial obligations. Is that enough money to learn to fly all the way up to a commercial pilot license so I can get a job flying?
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>>1877929
Stay out bro. AZ is better flying weather anyway as summer you get about 2 hours in the early morning for decent flying then 2 hours of turbulence hell before being grounded due to t-storms.
In that 2 hours of decent flying you get cluttered airways with every boomer fuck from across the US doing retarded shit.
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Just wrote my admission test online, wish me luck.
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>>1882745
Yes but you'll need to be totally committed.
Find a part 61 flight school and make sure you are efficient with your ground study. Take your written exams and have solid fundamentals of theory, flight planning and all the regs BEFORE you start the engine.
You'll make better use of your time in the cockpit.
I'm 34 and just about done with my IR and hopefully will have my CPL and CFI before 35. I'm late to the game but I think I can still build a decent career even if I never end up as wide-body captain at a legacy.
Sure as hell not going back to a fucking cubicle farm.
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>>1882707
Yeah, this black eye is very poorly timed. Do you know any ways I can dramatically improve its appearance in the next 24 hours or so? This is what I’m dealing with right now.
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>>1882758
They'll obviously ask about it. Just have a good story and it likely won't matter. Anecdotally, I know a guy that literally said he was in a bar fight and still got hired at a F500 sales job.
Also know I guy that had deviated septum surgery and got two black eyes as a result so maybe you can plausibly say that.
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>>1882759
Fair enough, I imagine it’s largely about the delivery of the excuse and whether it’s believable. Luckily mine was the result of a small patch of ice that caused me to smack my eye off the pavement yesterday. What about putting makeup over it?
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>>1881916
>Let’s see Paul Allen’s private jet
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>>1882758
>>1882626
bro ur actually retarded ur just taking those pics from the /xs/ thread from several months ago and pretending to be him LMFAO what am i looking at
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>>1882783
https://archived.moe/xs/thread/101301/
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>>1879898
based, im trying to get my chopper loicense too. i have a shitty $50k used rotorway i can fly out of my yard in.
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>>1882781
Look at that subtle off-white fuselage…the tasteful aerodynamic design of it…oh my God, it even has the VHF antenna…
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>husband was a full captain
>dies
>she became a full captain
SAFE INDUSTRY BRO
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>>1882056
shitty maintenance procedures.
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>>1882734
Sounds like she had controls and the other guy had the radios. Other guy should have took control and applied brakes right there. He was probably pissed and made her take the radio call from ATC, kek. .
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>>1882883
As someone with an upcoming IR check ride and has extreme nerves about it, I wonder how so many BAD pilots get through without busting more of these things. Where I train, I flew with some international (Indian and Euro students) working on their commercial rating and saw really shitty levels of awareness, flying ability and general aeronautical knowledge.
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>>1882998
It seems more and more common now. Not sure if it's affirmative action or just more relaxed instructors and examiners. But I've seen some quite retarded people flying that didn't get weeded out in private by some miracle.
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>>1883038
I wouldn't doubt affirmative action. Instructors here get punished if too many students fail. Could also be on a long enough timeline, anyone with money can pass, just have to get lucky once.
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>>1883038

DPEs get predictable. I'd like to think I absolutely deserved my PPL, and have been flying competently since then and passed a check ride to rent a bird. But my DPE does all the examinations for everyone in my region and after years of doing it, his order of events and whatnot during the check ride is basically common knowledge. The last few training sessions, my instructor and I basically rehearsed what he believed the check ride would be like to a T, and it ended up going exactly that way. So I can definitely see a less competent student just training to pass the test and succeeding.
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>>1882927
nah, she was clearly the pilot monitoring (ie the FO) during taxi and takeoff. If you actually listen to the tape the male voice comes on later and is much older/more experienced and is thusly more exasperated with the situation.

Regardless,the FO fucked up by reading back the right instructions but letting the captain go the wrong way. Pussy shit like that might have got her into a 777 cockpit but goes to show what happens when shit gets real.
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How long does a medical examination remain valid?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrWHNvvKyno
is this accurate depiction of the perks of becoming a pilot?
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Can /n/ help me with a little pet project?

I've been daydreaming about a design for an 80 passenger turboprop flying boat airliner. Would a four abreast or five abreast cabin be better for cargo? I was concerned that a shorter but thicker fuselage would be heavier and thus reduce range.

I'll eventually make a thread about this later with drawings.
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>>1883140
In the 50's to 60's. Now you're the bad guy because you dared to be ok with what you were born with.
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>>1883252
>▶
post drawings nao
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>>1883266
>>▶
woahh
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>>1883255
>>1883266
>>1883277
THREE DUBS IN A ROW
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taking a discovery flight in a few weeks. I don't really have any intention of doing flight school. My
what were yalls like?
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>>1883342

My discovery flight was actually pretty lame. The instructor let me take controls a bit but felt like it was too windy to really let me do anything.

I decided to give it another shot at a different school. It was much windier than the previous time. Instructor basically picked it up into a hover, got the takeoff going, then handed me the controls and said don't kill us. Nobody else was flying the pattern because winds were 18kts with gusts to 25kts and the other school said fuck that. We were in a R22 which gets absolutely brutalized by high winds. It was super scary but my instructor let me figure it out and ended up being a ton of fun. I was hooked after that.
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>>1883349
>Instructor basically picked it up into a hover, got the takeoff going, then handed me the controls and said don't kill us
jesus fuck lol
are all heli instructors just OK with the prospect of dying at any moment? are they all living the samurai life?
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>>1883371

I thought he was crazy at first, but ended up finding out he's been doing this for so long that he can very quickly recognize the difference between safe and unsafe. Any time in my early hours of training thi bgg s were starting to get out of hand, he'd help out on the controls. But he strongly believes one of the best ways to learn is to let the student attempt to recover from situations instead of guarding the controls and taking over any time things get spooky. There were some wild moments in the beginning, but him letting me mentally and physically struggle on my own in absolute bullshit conditions (every flight of my first 20 hours was in miserable weather) made me pretty good for a low hour PPL pilot. I only have about 65 hours on the books now and they trust me alone taking the wife on dates with the singular R44 the entire business revolves around.
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>>1883266

But I wanna get my parameters right so I won't end up having to redo the whole thing later.

;_;
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Guys please post in my threat it's fun:
>>1883194
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>>1882376
>everything goes deadly silent in less than 5 seconds
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>>1883255
What the fuck are you talking about?
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What happens if both the captain and co-pilot need a shit at the same time?
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>>1883442
They just poop their pants right there.
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>>1879717
Looks like it has ceramic heat shielding
I wonder if this thing is suborbital or orbital
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>>1882626
You again? I saw you on /trv/ the other day and you posted a much worse eye a couple days later
Stop being a nigger
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>>1883445
Don't tell that guy about the in flight extenda-a-loo diaper we use on the flight deck.
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Do you need any experience to do a discovery flight? I see places say no but everyone who’s done it seems to have autismo level aviation knowledge.
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>>1883472
No
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Anyone in this thread who became a commercial pilot through some sort of aviation academy?
I've gotten accepted into a 2 year course, gonna start in September. How did you guys prepare? What books should I read beforehand? Any good aviation books/documentaries in general?
Any other helpful tips? Appreciate it.
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>>1883502
poopoopeepee
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boeing is going down lmao. get rekt
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>>1883502
Check out the playlist at >>1881551
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>>1883502
Pilots handbook of aeronautical knowledge. The FAA has the best documentation, in both level of knowledge, presentation, and modern colored diagrams and pictures. Jepp, King, Gleim, etc are all charging $300 for the same books theyve had for 40 years, with minimal updates with major rules changes. Stick with FAA pubs which are free digitally, and very cheap if you want a printed copy.

If you want advanced books, just know they’re for ‘gee whiz’ knowledge, not anything you’d need to know for a FAA checkride. For example, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators is alot of high level bullshit (and actually an FAA source doc) but otherwise you have The Illustrated Guide to Aerodynamics, turbine pilots guide books, instruments, nav stuff, etc. All that shit is extraneous.

Now the really hard stuff is understanding legalese for a commercial oral, and it’s complicated without an aviation lawyer who dumbs it down (which is who I learned from). When you get to a Commercial ride, be ready to know what “Holding Out” is legally, and what 4 things constitute “Holding Out” for the FAA. Know the difference between Common Carriage and Private Carriage. Know that, if you are employed by a company that gives you an airplane and a mission, you’re probably legally flying (private), but if you provide the airplane and offer flights ‘the public’ you’ll get your peepee smacked. The ASA Commercial Oral Exam Guide has a chapter dedicated to this, and its IMO the best way to learn it, or teach it to a guy trying to understand it. Primary sources on these are FAA released Advisory Circulars from 50 years ago.
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Going to have my first medical soon, what type of questions do they ask you at the psych-evalution?
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>>1883993
"Have you ever thought about crashing a plane with no survivors?"
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How the fuck do pilots land large jets in a crosswind? I've tried it many times in microsoft flight simulator in an a320 and it's basically impossible to land and stay on the centerline.
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we gaan?
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>>1884142
>How the fuck do pilots land large jets in a crosswind?
Decrab at 50' AGL.
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>>1884142
git gud
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Two weeks into ground school. Starting the flight portion in a couple days. Really looking forward to it. Did an intro flight with the same guy and am pretty happy we'll be together for the training as well. So far the most confusing thing has been how the altimeter reacts to weather conditions. Feels like a you'll get better at it the more you experience it kind of thing.
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>>1881771
Hey you just sound like my 18 year old self.
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>>1884330
The only bit that saddens me about your post is I'm doing this ten years later.
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>>1884331
At least one of us got to do it. I got caught up in an entirely different path ... my mother was totally against that idea, I got into a different school and ended up in IT an economics afterwards. I'll come back when I amassed enough liquidity though. Maybe I'll get a beautiful DHC-2.
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Should I get a type-rating for the 737 or the 747? What's best for my career in the long-run?
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>>1884366
Quality shitpost
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Is going from pilot to truck driver a good career move?
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>>1884380
what?
why?
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>>1884382
no.
even less money, even less time at home (and with some airlines part of the appeal is the increased amount of time at home, like allegiant or hawaiian so you'll lose that opportunity) and even more inhuman working expectations (drowsiness, body problems etc.) and of course the fact that you'll be on the ground with all the undesirables as opposed to 32-38,000 feet off the ground away from them
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>>1884382
Only if you're 65+.
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>>1883252
>>1883266
>>1879666


I basically wanted a western analogue to the Beriev Be-200. I have strong suspicion that there is a sizable market for a large multirole flying boat, but American carriers don't want to admit their interest in a Russian-built aircraft. I also feel that today's society depends too much on landplanes and could benefit from something about the size of a Q400 that can operate amphibiously.

The design I was imagining is basically:

>Seating for 80 passengers in either a 4 or 5 abreast cabin
>High, unswept front tapered wing with small retractable pontoons about 2/3 of the way down
>Powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney PW150 turboprops rated at ~5500 shp in an overhead pod in a push-pull configuration (I have no idea if it's possible to have PW150's installed this way)
>Sponsoons just aft of the wing for stability but more to serve as a place for the main landing gear retracts
>V-tail to keep the control surfaces out of the propwash of both engines which share a centerline
>Overall similar to the Dornier Seastar (pic related), but bigger and with a pressurized cabin and a V-tail

I don't know if this is realistic but I imagined it using a jetbridge on a terminal on land and then flying to a remote island destination and unloading passengers on a dock (or vice versa). Aside from passenger service, I imagined it carrying freight in a similar manner, and it could also be an excellent firefighting plane.
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>>1884382
Only if you go from regional/continental flight to local distribution.
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My gf is a pilot. Does she cheat on me?
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>>1884478
Yeah dog
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>>1884478
Imagine a gender bent version of this.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A5WSqWJ4obg
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Third lesson today, first time since the disco flight that I actually got to fly due to shenanigans and weather, respectively.
It feels like that helicopter beat the shit out of me, but I'm excited to go back next weekend.
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>>1884559
We lost another one. Have fun kid.
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>>1884560
>>1883371
Is a man considered dead when he goes down the Way of the Rotor?
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>>1884559

There's gonna be a lot of sessions you walk away from feeling like you got your ass kicked. I'm guessing you're flying a R22? I was just completely mentally burnt out after many of my early flight hours. My night flight was the worst, we knocked out the entirety of the night flying requirements in a single night, so about 4.5 hours of flying a dinky R22 all over Socal in the middle of the night. It was absolutely brutal.
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>>1884620
R22, yeah. Doesn't help that if I sit up straight, my head is firmly lodged in the ceiling padding even before I put on a headset.
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Any former OSM-students ITT?
They take a lot of pride in their different airline partnerships, did those help you transition into a steady employment?
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>>1884472

what the fuck are you smoking
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>>1884553
>>1884534
fug
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>>1877563

EVERYBODY is sleeping on TTBW. This is huge
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>>1884770
you watch scott manley, good for you
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>>1884776
scott manley flight trains in a cirrus. fuck dat nigga
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>>1884770
>do we want a high wing, or low wing aircraft?
>after much compromise, the design committee has submitted this proposal
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>>1884770
Looks like it would be a bit unstable.
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Be 100% honest with me bros
Would you recommend that I become an airline pilot, having serious decision anxiety here.
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Flew (as a passenger) for the first time last Thursday. The world is huge.
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>>1884770
Seems like more drag for no benefit.
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>>1884770
im excite
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Does it matter what airport you go to for flight lessons? I have a very small municipal airport 15 min away from me with 1 runway and a bigger one 30 min away with 2 runways. The bigger one has a lot more flight schools and instructors available. Is it worth driving the extra 10-15 miles each way for that or will the closer one be good enough?
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>>1884971
Supposedly reduced induced drag more than the increase in parasitic drag. Gliders are very efficient, but that thing isn’t going to fit in a regular gate without some kind of folding action. Boeing does have the regulatory experience with the 777X so it’s something they could do.
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>>1884986
Do research on the reputation of the actual flight schools and instructors, don't get distracted by the facilities
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>>1884969
probably
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>>1884969
I had a career change and became a pilot, it beats working in an office. You can always go back if you don't like it.
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>>1885071
Thanks dude, I just spent $100 grand on a whim and am in massive debt for the training and certification. Anyway, if I hate the shitty lifestyle, I guess I’ll just be able to go back to working elsewhere with zero consequences. Thanks!
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>>1884971
The struts also produce lift, and every wing with struts is lighter than cantilever wing, so there are some benefits to be found there
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>>1884478
You're single anon (and probably virgin too), stop writing lies on a anonymous imageboard
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>>1885071
How old were you when you did it and how long did it take? I’m in my mid 30s and I’ve always wanted to be a pilot but never had the motivation do it until now. But now I wonder if it’s too late.
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>>1885135
34 here about to do instrument checkride. Don't give a shit if I'm in the right seat of a 73x when I make it to 67 years old, at least I made it on something bigger than a regional. I know I'll never be a heavy CA, but that's ok, too.
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>want to learn to fly
>bad vision
>poor
>shit country
Fuck it
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>>1884472

Another thing you should consider is how baggage would be loaded into your plane when the baggage compartment is at or below the waterline.
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>>1884988
>>1885112
Interesting points. The increased wingspan seems like it could be a problem fitting at gates and if the folding part isn't bullshit then at least some of the weight savings from the non-cantilever design will be used there. Still interesting and it would be cool to see these flying around.
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>>1884472
what you are basically describing is the passenger and MR/SAR versions of the CL415 and now 515. Unfortunately the market you're imagining is a lot smaller than you think. some aussies in Darwin are trying to make a composite version of the Grumman Albatross. Go work for them.
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SIR PLEASE TERRAIN AHEAD SIR
PLEASE TURN UP SIR
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>>1885211
BITCHSHEAR
BITCHSHEAR
BITCHSHEAR
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Did you guys see this? Looks like ADSB-Exchange is done for.

The owner sold the website for $20 million and apparently fucked over everyone who built and maintained the site for him. There's a big revolt going on now and hundreds of feeders are shutting off their services.

a shame.
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>>1885220
https://www.businessinsider.com/student-tracks-elon-musk-jet-calls-for-boycott-adsb-exhange-2023-1
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>>1885220
How the fuck is a site like that worth $20 million?
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>Kaman announced yesterday [article from the 19th] that it is ending production of its K-Max synchromesh rotor utility helicopter after a production run of 60 helicopters over the course of 30 years
RIP
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WHAT IF?! AIRPLANES where
CARS and BIKES where HELICOPTERS?!
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>>1885241

Big sad. Not surprised though. Handmade wooden blades coating over a million bucks a set. Awesome machine and I always wanted one, it's just way too expensive to be cost effective in many roles.
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>>1885248
>Handmade wooden blades
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>>1885251

Yeah. It's pretty nuts but the blades of the K-Max are wooden. Rigid rotor hub design, flapping is performed via the blades flexing instead of hinges. Metal fatigues, wood does not. Blades have control rods that run up the middle, that control surface you see near the end of the blade is how the helicopter is controlled. It changing position causes the blades to flap differently, changing lift direction. Pretty fucking nuts design desu but it does a good job at picking up heavy shit.
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>>1885252
>Metal fatigues, wood does not.
I mean, some metals don't have to worry about fatigue under a certain stress limit and stronger composites do exist, but the wood autism does have some sort of appeal.
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>>1885254

I think they went with wood because the nature of the system requires very finely tuned balancing of the blades. You cannot mix and match K-max blades, each set is is finely honed to be perfectly balanced in every way. I imagine gradually shaving off bits of wood to make everything perfect is slightly easier than making adjustments to composites, but I can't pretend to be an expert. I just know the rigid rotor system of the K-max is 100 percent why it's so fucking expensive to purchase and maintain. The meshing gearbox and the rest of the bird are surprisingly simple.
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Give it to me straight lads, when will supersonic commercial jets be the norm for the rich?
When will it be the norm for all?
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dear plane autists of /n/
how does flightradar24 track aircraft that are not equipped with ADS-B?
they say it's thanks to the multilateration of S-mode transponder signals, but don't you need an actual SSR (which fr24 AFAIK doesn't own) for the S-mode tranny to send you a signal (response)?
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>>1885433
When you can go supersonic over places other than just the ocean ie never
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Just got my first flying job after cpl as a sky diving pilot, I don’t have the funds to pursue cfi but once I get enough hours and make a decent sic or corporate gig I’ll save up a bit and go get it. What think boys? Was good idea for hours building? End goal would be corporate jets or cargo. I would have loved to fly banners instead in a tail drag here but they are taking way to long with giving me information
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What do they test and check during a class 1 medical? And how long does it roughly take?
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>>1885539
Mine was a standard sports physical with an extra focus on vision tests like depth and your eye muscle strength. Basically they made me look into a thing that had dots on one side and a line on the other and I had to tell them what number it was closest too. She also made sure my blood pressure was good to go
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>>1885551
Can you elaborate on the sports test?
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>>1885552
She tested my blood pressure, put a stethoscope on my chest, made me do the eye thing I said, looked for reaction problems by looking into my eyes with the thing that blows air into it, sometimes I’ve heard of people doing a hearing test, I peed in a cup so make sure you drink water and don’t pee in the morning or a few hours before you go there. That’s about all I can remember. Basically if you think there’s anything they could get you for don’t eat/drink/do it and you’ll be okay.
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>>1885552
Oh and they will also ask about medical history
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>>1885553
>>1885554
Thanks, i hope go do one next week
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What's the best pilot job you can get outside of commercial aviation?
I'm guessing corporate pilot pays the best, but they probably only hire pilot's with thousands of hours of experience and are willing to work cheaper because their company laid them off. No chance in hell they'd hire a rookie with 200-300 flight hours, right?
Thought about being self-employed, hiring an aircraft of some kind and doing cargo runs, put I'm unsure if there's enough profit in it to make a living (but maybe it'd be worth if for the freedom)
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>>1885650
>No chance in hell they'd hire a rookie with 200-300 flight hours, right?
my friend went straight from ATPL course to flying bizjets as his first aviation job so it's certainly possible.
make them tell you no
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>>1880315
>25 y/o captain
w-what? is this a normal age? what airframe
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>>1884472

I would like to see some /k/ applications of a design like that.
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>>1885136
I am the same age and just took my instrument ride. I think if we hurry with our ratings we may be able to get widebody captain given the current market conditions. But even flying as a wide body FO or narrow body captain sure as shit beats going to a cubicle farm.
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Would people call me retarded if I bought a past-TBO low airframe time good condition Cessna 150 for $30k?
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Who major airline pilot /neet/ lifestyle here?

Live in base, bid reserve, and pretty much only get called in for landing currency. Fly maybe a dozen times a year while making six figures. Literally have gone months without leaving my house to fly. Log more hours on my flight sim dicking around than on the real deal. Yeah I’m calling it based
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>>1885678

I was a captain on the CRJ-900 at 25 with a regional airline. I started at 23 though.
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>>1885863
what the fuck?
based as hell, how did you find this loophole?
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>>1885916
sounds like bullshit, normally pilots get paid by flying hours.
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>>1885863
This is what I aspire to except flying a C152/Cub/Bell-47 around my house instead of simming.
I heard of a Delta guy that is is doing what you are doing and pulled in 250K/yr despite not flying an actual airplane in 2 years.
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>>1885863
Not yet brother. For now, it’s risking my life flight instructing esl retards
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>>1885955
All my students are white and speak English thank fucking God
But that could also be because I intentionally don't take on ESL students because I don't want to fucking deal with them lol
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>>1885863
But why? Flying seems like the most fun job in the world. If I was a pilot I would be trying to get as many flights as a I possibly can. In fact MSFS made me want to become a pilot because it’s so fun but I know it probably isn’t even 10% as good as the real thing, so I’m starting my first lesson next week.
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>>1885921
You're guaranteed a monthly minimum no matter how little you fly. Typically around 75 hours from what I've seen. So go on reserve where you sit around waiting for them to call and never have them call. Free money.
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>>1885863
what the actual hell, that sounds great
you could do web dev or some other remote job too and pull another six figures
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>>1885961
It’s just a job. No matter what job it is, you’re going to get used to it after a few years. Plus, who wouldn’t want to do next to nothing for 6 figures + benefits + pension while also getting to fly planes for free?
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>>1881063
If I were to do my flight physical, then troon out at a later date, would this be a problem?
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>doing pickup practice
>I'm on cyclic, instructor has the other two
>maintain a very wobbly hover
>instructor gives big thumbs up
>says that's the first time he's ever taken his hand off his side of the cyclic with a two-hour student
>immediate paranoia that I'm actually doing terribly
haha good times
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>>1886078

It was hot during one of my first sessions (around 3 hours) and we were practicing hovering. My instructor turns to me and says, "It's too damn hot, I should have taken the doors off, don't kill us please," and without even letting me ask wtf that means, he popped his door open on our R22 and leaned outside to get air. I was so fucking scared knowing if I lost control and risked balling it up, he likely wouldn't have time to save us.

I think heli instructors learn a certain language, a way of telling you you're doing great without actually saying it. It's either that or they just don't fear death anymore.
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>>1885650
This is illegal without a Part 135 operator certificate. There are no owner-operators in flying like there are in trucking. Owner-operators and extremely rare in flying, and in practice are limited to remote Alaska.

The best job in flying is the major airlines. Once you hold significant seniority, working becomes optional.
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>>1885961
Autist NEET doesn’t understand what work is. Additionally does not understand that real life is not vidya or fun. More news at nine, here’s Tom with the weather.
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>>1886095
>It's either that or they just don't fear death anymore
I think they've just all accepted that death will find them when it does, whether in the form of a fatal student or a bad jesus nut
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>>1886112

There's a lot of owner-operators doing stuff like cropdusting and whatnot throughout the US. But yeah, mostly in the more rural areas.
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>>1886151
Crop dusting is one of the things you can "hold out" for. So it's perfectly legal to have your own Air Tractor and advertise your services. You can't do that in regards to transporting persons or property for hire.
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I read about a pilot commuting from Amsterdam to New York. How the fuck does that happen? How do you get a visa to even live in another country when you're in the US half the time? Same goes for pilots commuting from Japan/Asia to the west coast. I assume you'd have to be a dual citizen to begin with, or find some loophole. You'd have to be pretty insane to commute that far anyways, so I guess finding out how to live in the country is the least of your problems.

>>1886114
To be fair, I think a lot of autists genuinely find these sorts of things endlessly entertaining. E.g. an autismo whose special interest is trains might never get tired of being a train conductor.
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Can someone explain why the average number of hours most people get a PPL in is 75 hours, when the FAA requirement is only 40? Is it really that difficult to get to the level required to pass the checkride?
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>>1886496
Yeah you have to really dedicate yourself to do it in 40 hours. It's not that hard, but many students are dumb, old, foreign, or lacking in work ethic.
The key is really consistent flying. If you aim to do it in 40 (or 35 for a 141 school) you have to fly at least three times a week with no extended breaks. A lot of my students don't fly that often and even when they're scheduled that often, things get cancelled for weather or other dumb reasons. Also some of them suck balls at flying airplanes lmao. I have one older guy student who's close to 40 hours right now and still can't land the airplane without trying to kill us both.
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>>1886507
How many hours a week do you recommend if I want to be proficient enough to do it in 40 hours?
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>>1886555
6 hours of flying minimum and well more than that doing your ground school stuff
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>>1886496

I got my helo PPL in 52 hours, which is pretty decent I hear. Flew about 2x a week. From what I've heard, people get lazy and take breaks which makes them end up having to relearn and waste time. My cousin is doing fixed wing and just wastes time, he'll say shit like "I have a flight scheduled for today but I don't feel like it so I'm just gonna cancel." Whereas I knew the longer between lessons, the more hours I'd need, so even when I wasn't really feeling it, I was getting in that fucking bird and getting my reps in.
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>>1885650
being Andrew Tate's pilot
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>>1885863
shut the fuck up retard dont fuck it up for everyone else. fuck you
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>>1886496
I got my PPL in just over 40 hours in the span of a little over 2 months. It was at a pretty busy airport too, and they only had one runway when they normally have two, so a good chunk of that is sitting on the ground or shit like 5 nm downwind legs for rich fuck x's landing Gulfstream.
I flew at least three times per week and spent much of my free time studying, watching videos, practicing in sims, asking questions from airport friends, etc., while also having a full time job. Obviously I still spent time hanging out at the airport, playing vidya, drinking, etc., but for example when sitting in car traffic I'd listen to LiveATC, or listen to free ground school videos in the background, and so on.
A big thing that helped was that I've spent nearly my entire life interested in and constantly learning about mechanical things, with a good chunk of that in aviation. I also played flight sims a bunch, but it was mostly shit like DCS and IL-2 and I guess War Thunder and KSP if that counts.
I also had gone on plenty of plane rides with my friends for free who would let me fly and eventually takeoff and land, and I'd gathered about 10 hours of flying time (unlogged as they weren't instructors). Even after those flights I would look up what I learned to reinforce my knowledge of it, and would practice it in a sim. And even if I couldn't fly or was in a back seat, it got me used to the sensation of flight for free.
At the end of the day, as other anons said I think it boils down to people half-assing it, unwilling to commit in their spare time, taking long breaks, and not coming in with a prior background or general understanding. But I'm no instructor, so I can only really speak of my own experience and assumptions. I will say that starting flight lessons without doing the absolute bare minumum of preparation - just listening to the audiobook of the Pilot's Handbook you can find online - is a massive waste of money, and anyone who does so is a complete idiot.



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