In order to get to the main park of my city, or even just to go on the panoramic coastline (main place to go on a bike) I need to go on a very steep and long road (11km, can't tell you how steep precisely). Now when I had an e-bike this was no problem, but now I'm planning of getting a real bike and I'm wondering if this could be possible without getting on top as a panting pool of sweat. Is that possible for someone who isn't much trained legwise? I do decently in cardio at the gym although I don't do it much since it kills gains.
yes, you just need low enough gears and a reasonably efficient bike.
>>1849819You definitely are going to get sweaty if it's really steep. Consider using your ebike but with a lower level of assistance if you want to do the effort
>>1849819Climbing is fun and easy if you have the right gearing and tires.Whether you can do it without being soaked in sweat has mostly to do with the climate in your area. If it's 98 F and 100% humidity sorry bub no bike is going to save you.
>>1849819You could try getting one of those stealthy ebikes that aren't too heavy and only turn the motor on for the hill
>>1849819>cardio kills gainsI which this retarded fucking meme would die alreadyYoure going to get sweaty untill youve done the trip enough times that your body adpats to it and get fitter
>>1850367muscle wasting only happens if you're body doesn't have the protein to repair the muscles. The solution is just to take in more protein
>>1849819climbing steep as fuck hills is my specialty and i build all my bikes for that purpose, people will go on and on about weight and shit but all that does is make faster up hill it doesnt make it easierfor mountain climbing you need proper low gearingid reccomend a bike with 2x or 3x drivetrain so you can install a tiny granny gear if it doesnt already have one and replace the cassette with a bigger one and a derailleur hanger extender and maybe a longer cage in the deraileur if it needs it, chain will need extending toothis is the 34t i replaced with an aliexpress 50t and the hanger was included and a 22t chainringthis is for my fat fren who struggles on even shallow hills and the hills round here are fucking steep, previous owner did an awful 1x conversion on his bike with a 38t chainring, sad cos it was a really nice drivetrain once apon a timeanyway with these upgrades lardass can now spin up the steepest hills easilyim also in the process of upgrading my ancient junkbike from a 28t to a 34t freewheel and installing a 20t chainring which should be breddy niceif you have an 8 speed cassette the biggest you can get is 46t which is still pretty good but those extra 4 teeth are nice, upgrading from 8 to 9 is also easy but you need to replace the shifter toodont bother with anything bigger than 9 as itl be an insane amount of money for only an extra 2 teeth
>>1849819i should also mention there is technique to climbing its about going slow maintaining momentum and conserving energyyoul have the temptation to pick a gear too hard and to try to push your way up the hill to get up there faster or at a lower cadance but youl just exhaust yourself and itl get painful and you simply wont make itpick a gear easier than what feels right and maintain a high cadance and the moment it starts feeling harder go down a gear, if you wait too late to downshift youl bog down and loose speed and need to crunch down several gears under load or loose your momentumand just dont rush, it doesnt matter if your bike is moving at walking pace its still more efficient than walking just keep spinning keep the gears easy and youl eventually make it to the topalso bring lots of water and protien filled snacksclimbing is ez when your equipped and dont rush it
>>1850510I have a 400 foot climb that I take frequently that's about a grade 8 but gets as high as 13 in several areas, and i take it in the granny gear at like 7mph, meanwhile the lycra guys are zooming up that thing at 13-15 mph and they don't even seem to be breaking a sweat, how do I get to be like them? Don't say lose weight I'm 173cm and 62kg.
>>1850532extreme amounts of suffering and blowing up on climbs until you overcome themactually the fastest you'll be able to climb and the furthest you'll be able to push your limits is on someone stronger than you's wheel. When there's no mental calculations beyond 'i am not getting dropped at any cost' you go into like this brainless trance with mad abilities.
>>1850533So just keep my heart rate pegged at 180bpm the whole way?
>>1850534yeah maybe not lol
>>1850532trust me you dont wanna do it like themit takes years of obsessive training and an expensive lightweight bike to do it like that, those guys are athletes and even then they couldnt keep that up for longspeed is not the same thing as efficiency
>>1850552Come on that's like saying "money isn't everything" from the poop deck of your benetti yacht. You're saying if someone handed you a pill and said take this and you'll be able to double your sprinting capacity you wouldn't jump at the chance?That kind of speed is not the bike, I am certain that if you put them on an exact copy of my 9.5kg garbage barge they'd still destroy my maximum effort while looking completely bored. Obviously I'd like to also have some handmade mountain goat frame with "Huez" in the name and obscenely expensive wheels because who doesn't like nice stuff, but if it's a fancy bike and my shit body or my shit bike and superhuman climbing skills I'll take the latter any day
>>1850625its both and either way they arent riding like that as a way of getting places they are athletes training for races n shityou dont run everywhere do you loljust get low gearing on your bike and spin to the top ignore the lycraclad carbon fibre racetards
>>1850720No but I run up stairs, I am physically incapable of taking stairs at a normal turtle speed, it drives me crazy
>>1850778yeah but could u do that for longjust try doing that steep 11k ride and see if you can do it youl be wishing you had lower gearing eventuallytrust me swapping gears out is ez what kind of bike are you planning on getting?
>>1849819>Cardio kills gainsThis only applies to elite body builders doing multiple training sessions a day. If you're like the average person, you can easily work both strength and endurance. Just split the endurance workout from the strength workout.For sweat management just wear breathable cycling kits.
>>1851733I don't know which 11k ride you mean. I'll usually climb in 34-34 which is enough for me. I climbed ventoux in 34-32 before I had my current bike and even that was adequate, I wasn't exactly wishing I had lower gears, though I was wishing I had brought more water. Low enough gearing is not the issue. Strong enough me is the issue. Trust me I'd love a climber-oriented hyperbike but the bike is not the main issue here. For a board that shits on people who consoom consoom consoom you guys sure are hell bent on trying to tell me the bike is the problem.
>>1851890it's almost as if /n/ is more than one person
>>1851890>hyperbikebruh its a cheap upgrade its like $30
>>1849819I rode my steel 21sp Avanti out to mangamahoe on my own when I was 13 it's not that hard get gud faggot.
>>1852228>what is derailleur lengthPlease don't give bike advice anymore
>>1852261>what is a wolftooth roadlink
>>1852264>bro just make a gimpy frankenbike that can’t use half the cassette
>>1852277now you're just grasping, thread hidden
>>1852277im the anon that built the franken bike it works perfectly fine, it costed fuck all as its aliexpress componants the whole cassette works and i can spin my way up any hill no matter how steep while carrying shit and im fucking anorexic, im also not soaked in sweat at the topjust go try to do that climb and see how far you get before you dont even have the energy to get off and pushpic related is the bike i built for my fat fren and even he has no issues climbing with this upgradealso id reccomend gettig a longer hanger if you go for a 50t like this as i had to use 2 shorter ones to make it work as a temporery hacknew long one is on its way so it wont look as fucked soonyou also probably dont need to go as extreme as i have i only did this because i live in rural bongland where its extremely steep hills everywhere and we do it offroad mostlyyou could also just put a smaller granny gear on your bikewhatever gets your gear ratio low enough
>>1852237yeah in the prime of your youth lol
>>1852261deraillier length isnt much of a factora hanger extention will make room for the sprocket and the cage only needs to be replaced with a longer one if you find the chain going slack when on the smallest sprocket combinationanyway post bike and il help u figure out what would work for u again u probably dont need to go extreme u just need a good hill gear
26 gear inches bby
>>1849819>kills gainsstop being a retard
>>1852237>mostly flatwew impressive ride, lad.
>>1852237Just saying, OP is making it out to be a real ordeal. It's not. Any bike could do it.