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This is what Los Angeles used to be about.

There was a time Los Angeles was the best place in the world to be a cyclist, there were cycleways that crossed the entire city.
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grade separated cycleways need to come back
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>>1835484
And just as they were then: tolled.
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>>1835405
>boardwalk
>BUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDABUDDA
no thanks
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>>1835516
>not enjoying feeling like a locomotive clackety-clacking through your ride
soulless
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They look like a lot more effort to get onto and off again than just your standard roads. I'm sure it would be nice to have them, but what if you don't want to go to the end? What if you only want to go halfway?
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>>1835405
Los Angeles is by far the best place in the US to be a cyclist, if you actually like riding bikes and aren’t trying to make it a chore to get to work.
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>>1835657
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>>1835405
Got a map of that system?
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>>1835405
stuff like this requires 97% white people
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>>1835516
It reminds you of beaches, and so you're willing to pay more money for it.
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>>1835657
>and aren’t trying to make it a chore to get to work.
this is roughly equivalent to being a good place to be a cyclist anon

just riding your bike in the malibu hills is not the ONLY thing that is important when it comes to being a cyclist
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>>1835657
Anywhere with decent weather and some recreational facilities can be a good place to be a cyclist if you don't need to use your bike for a functional purpose; hobbyist recreational cycling isn't generally what people mean in the context of urban transportation.
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>>1835787
american retards
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>>1835793
>>1835795
I’ll clarify: if your idea of a good place to cycle involves alpine climbs, adrenaline pumping descents, rolling, punchy routes and flat sprints, seemingly endless miles of fire road and gravel in the middle of the city, hidden dirt jump parks and flowy descents branching off in areas you just have to know about, national parks with off road trails that let you camp wherever you want, multiple lift served downhill parks, stunning bike touring routes with warm and friendly cities to stay in, boardwalks to cruise on next to the ocean, bike courier outfits running strong somehow, LA is the place.

If your idea of cycling is slowly soaking the armpits of a baby blue Oxford shirt while rattling along on your brompton, by all means don’t hesitate to not live here.
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>>1836150
>national parks with off road trails that let you camp wherever you want
Not sure what you're talking about here, none of the national parks in CA just let you camp wherever, unless you meant to say national forests?
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>>1836150
Yes, that's cycling as a hobby, like skiing or hang gliding or kayaking.
In the context of transportation, a "good cycling city" is one where you can safely and easily zone out and listen to a podcast while taking the same bike route every day with minimal fuss or risk, the same way you otherwise would in a car or on a train. Amsterdam is a good (transport) cycling city because cycling there is boring, safe, predictable, and easy. It's probably an awful place for cycling as an adventure sport. Likewise, Los Angeles offers thrilling cycling, but that also means it's not very practical as a means of transportation.
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>>1835771
Is one of those little girl bikes yours? Don't be pissed
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>>1836295
I always thought LA was a great city to cycle in for commuting. For example you can get from Compton to Long Beach Harbor in less than an hour on bike and not really have to be on any roads you just follow the bike path along the LA river.

San Diego is the unexpectedly shitty place to cycle in SoCal
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>>1836383
>Compton to Long Beach Harbor

this specific route follows a major road and may even have a seperate bike route following alone the road.

Try going from Compton to Santa Monica and you'll find it's incredibly hard, with some small winding roads not even having sidewalks along the side of them.

There are small roads in LA that have a high amount of traffic and are absolutely terrifying for a cyclist to ride on, oftentimes compeltely hostile towards cyclists.

A cyclist in many parts of LA would die during rush hour, no ifs about it. There are roads I am confident that cyclists have never rode on.
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>>1835405
How does a pedestrian viaduct over a railroad truck indicate that there were "cycleways that crossed the entire city"?



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