How are you guys maintaining all your planes with the sanctions? I still see lots of air travel on flightradar24, but I thought that all the sanctions had stopped you from recieving parts/maintainance packages?
>>1797240Also this was a repost from /o/ cause I accidentally posted it there first.
>>1797240the sanctions will crush Russia any day now. you can see how quickly and effectively they disabled Cuba and Venezuela.
>global economy crashes because of Russia Why did this country have so much control over the world?
>>1797240No one except america and europe gives a fuck about this shit, so russia is simply taking their business elsewhere.>>1797306Through the Trump/Russia collusion myth Russia became the scapegoat to explain away the 2016 anti-establishment backlash. If they stop seething about Russia for five seconds they might accidentally realize that everyone fucking hates them and for good reason.
>>1797305>>1797306>>1797317Yes yes.. But what about their aircraft maintenance schedules? Anyone actually know about this stuff? All their commercial planes are leased from the west. Will they start falling out of the sky, or are their workarounds?
>>1797596Russian air travel is already russian roulette, doubt it's going to change much. Google the sukhoi superjet lightning strike incident, it's amazing how incompetent they are
>>1797317>Through the Trump/Russia collusion myth Russia became the scapegoat to explain away the 2016 anti-establishment backlash. If they stop seething about Russia for five seconds they might accidentally realize that everyone fucking hates them and for good reason.>everyone fucking hates them and for good reason.>hates them>themWho is "them"? Jews? Trannies? Niggers? Please try to remember that not everyone is in your fringe political echo chamber
>>1797598>sukhoi superjet lightning strike incidentGod, who let them have nooks?
>>1797601thats the scary thing, they build them themselves
>>1797305Cuba and Venezuela are going to be irrelevant hellholes with major emigration pressures for the next 500 years because of how totally wrecked their countries are. Did you think sanctions knocked down buildings or something dramatic?
>>1797240They can cannibalize older planes and demand for flying has also gone down. They can probably hold on for a year or so before they start getting into issues.
>>1797663>Did you think sanctions knocked down buildingsFunny you should say that because buildings spontaneously collapsing from neglect was a big problem when I last visited Cuba and the popular consensus was that the so-called "blockade" had a lot to do with it. Granted that was still during the so-called "special period" and things might have improved since then.
>>1797663we were promised immediate collapse of maduro's regime
You guys understand that Russia is not some third world African country? They literally build their own airplanes, airplane engines, and rockets. Now that isn’t to say they are any good but they are perfectly capable of keeping this shit together with some glue and tape
>>1798012Most of that “russian” stuff was designed by colonized people. In particular, by ukies.
>>1798012Except they don't have the ability to manufacture a lot of that stuff. Be it because it's using parts sourced from outside Russia or because they used to buy them from ex-soviet countries like Ukraine.
>>1798012Any modern airplane requires stuff only purchasable from US or UK. You’re suggesting they run 80s or previous level technology.
>>1798012they dont even produce the ball bearings they need for automotive. How can you think they can have aviation grade material available once their stocks are out?
>>1798104Trip on, hambini
>>1797317>No one except america and europe gives a fuck about this shit>russia is simply taking their business elsewhereLmao literally this. When you hear "the whole world" or "the international community" what they actually mean is the USA and its satellite states but that's a far too profound geopolitical stretch for normies and leftoids.Don't worry OP, two more weeks and the whole world will bow to you thanks to the power of "sanctions" and "military aid".
>>1798860Aside Singapour the rest of the world is irrelevant and they suffer from every problem the west has plus turd world problems.
What is stopping china from creating a competitive airliner industry?
>>1799513The comical level of their 90s-tier technology and national culture that leads to shit results on any sort of precision engineering.
>>1798860>nooooooo you didn’t ask the opinion of the dragon king of bhutan
>>1799514I somehow doubt that. While my main field of expertise is cars, I can tell you China absolutely dominates the electric car market, and thats some pretty advanced shit. My point is, the coastal part of china has some serious tech potential.
>>1797240They'll probably just start cannibalizing some planes for parts to keep the rest maintained.
>>1798860bit of a stretch to include Ireland and Finland in this.
>>1799517If you had half the expertise you think you did, you’d know china manufactures electric car parts to Korean and American designs. Their own idea of research is what they can send home from their students in foreign universities.
>>1799517Aerospace is way more complicated than cars. It take literal decades to design a new aircraft and shitton of money that they don't have.
>>1798077Ngl this made me audibly laugh
>>1799525That is a dangerously outdated opinion. Like them or not, China has been the wealthiest nation on the planet for the majority of recorded history. Sure, they got memed by the brits and then a whole bunch of other westerners for a couple of centuries, but they are working very hard to take that title back. The only thing that slows them down is communism, even thought their take on it is super nationalistic.
>>1798081you can't carry people from one spot to another with 80s technology?
>>1799525Funny enough, this kind of elitist mindset (we're the best in the world, it's impossible those filthy foreigners have overtaken us!) is exactly what got China completely subjugated by Western powers for a century.
>>1797240kinda like that
>>1798081>>1799640You can still use older planes but western nations would likely shoot said plane down for being "obsolete" (Too old to install Flight Termination Switch)
>>1798081>>1798104>>1798079They still have good Friend China.
Ah yes, the country which has a fully domestic and vertical manufacturing process for mother fucking Soyuz rockets and capsule won’t be able to maintain their airplanes….god you westerners are so stupid
>>1799850How many Soyuz rockets are used in a commercial airliner you retard and how many million a year do they build?
>>1799850I wouldn't call "drunk Ivan drilling holes in space capsules" manufacturing
>>1799850>domestically designed 1960s rocket using the same manufacturing equipment>foreign-designed, manufactured, and maintained aircraftYeah those are the same thing
>>1799848Hasn't China been avoiding direct support of Russia due to fear of sanctions?
Nothing Russia does rn will have much effect. The intellectual, cultural and technological elites are emigrating at an ever faster pace. The government has run out of ideas except trying to go back to some Soviet methods. They are reintroducing pioneer organizations and have school children sing the national anthem every Monday morning (this one is actually inspired by the US). They had 1500 combat helicopters in 2021 but in 2022 they don't have enough fire fighting helicopters for their forest fires which have burnt down entire villages.
>>1799689Yeah it really bothers me when Westerners dismiss the threat posed by China. They have not surpassed the West yet, they have major internal issues, but they also have the capability to completely subjugate us within 100 years if we’re not careful. We can still come out on top but we can’t assume that is a sure deal.
>>1801216>Nothing Russia does rn will have much effect.I think whatever they do will have more of an effect than sanctions or keeping them from buying mcdonalds.
>>1801199>Hasn't China been avoiding direct support of Russia due to fear of sanctions?They avoid overt public support because they like to play all the sides, but they're still buying Russia's gas and selling them microchips and whatever else they need. You can't sanction china in any meaningful way without K'Oing your economy as well.
>>1801529A defensible opinion before seeing the bloody nose Trump gave China - but this is 2022, friend.
>>1801529>Majority of Russian gas can't actually get to China due to pipeline/shipping limitations.>Chinese microchips aren't the really good ones, they're more like wumbochips
>>1801562While the trade war was a good idea, the U.S. economy was hurt as well as Trump was demonized for it. China's economy was only marginally impacted and considering it actually grew in 2020 when every other economy in the world shrunk, I think it's safe to say they can take whatever the West can throw at them and dish it out in return.>>1801636>Chinese microchips aren't the really good ones, they're more like wumbochipsConsidering your IPhone is made in China, this is a pretty dumb opinion anon.
>>1797317>ruble exchange rate has returned to normalTechnically yes, except the volume of rubles traded has basically imploded.
>>1799586china isn't communist.>b- b-b-but chinese COMMUNIST party!!!1no. by that logic the nazis were socialists.
>>1801753Partially agreed. As always, the limitation of American power is approval ratings.
>>1801753China saw record levels economic shrinkage as a direct result of the sanctions. The US was barely affected. It’s amazing the level of mental gymnastics chicom apologists/anti-trumpers will go to try and demonise taking any sort of hardline stance against China
>>1801908I don’t think the anon you’re replying to is implying china shrugged off the trade war. Unfortunately it gave political opportunists in the US a useful rallying cry that limited any real privations the US could inflict on China. Nearly every enemy of the west in the past 100 years has been a paper tiger and China is no exception.
>>1801908To clarify by “didn’t shrug off” I mean that China was damaged by the trade war and then profited so immensely from COVID that they managed to avoid long term consequences
>>1797629from what I know most avianions and tons of other systems in ssj are western systems used in most other aircrafts, so apart from being unable to service boeings (at least critical parts not made in russia) even domestically built ssj will have problems
>>1797240Ask that question on dvach
>>1798860>normies and leftoidsActual left-wingers would re-tweet your image. Your ire is directed at liberals. The normie conservatives of such countries are also complicit.