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Don't really understand mopeds but if they come in 125cc then suggestions are welcome too.

Gonna be for general, non-special usage. A bit of dirt road once a while, a semi-long trip once in a while. Most of the time, driving around urban hoods and enjoying some uphills.

Probably gonna need a storage box or something added to it.

You'll know the pros and cons. Which should I go for? Budget limited to 125cc quality or 200cc cheap brand.
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Also:
Hand-guards - yes or no?KTG88
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Maintaining
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>>1784070
get a Honda Navi
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>>1784070
get a scoot, trust me. If you get a bike you'll wish you had the storage space
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>>1784201
splitting the difference
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>In terms of needs . . . Gonna travel 200 miles once a week to buy exotic knives from a shop I know as a hobby
my liege
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>>1785305
why not?
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Just found out these exist.
What’s so wrong with 125s?
Seems like the perfect vehicle for everyday life unless you have a family you drive around everyday
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>>1787101
Forgot pic
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>>1784070
Guessing your American, If you want cheap try findin a 150cc jap scooter (400) or a new chink ct70 clone (1.3k). Good luck
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>>1787101
There's nothing really wrong with 125cc motors but they're slow. You won't be able to go highway speeds.
Look into the Honda Navi, Monkey, Grom, and Super Cub. Navi is the cheapest. Monkey, Grom, and Super Cub are all the same engine but different styles of scooters. This is the best direction for buying a new scooter/mini bike for under 4k.
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>>1784201
Fuck this it's a scooter that looks like a bike. Get a grom.
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>>1784070
>Don't really understand mopeds
In some jurisdictions you can ride a moped without a license or registration.
It was originally just supposed to be motorized bicycles but once it became a market segment there were quickly a bunch of scooters with superfluous pedals on them to fill it.

If you don't have that quirk of the law where you live then there's no real reason to choose a moped over a conventional scooter or e-bike.
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>>1787289
>you won’t be able to get to highway speeds
Why would you want to?
45 to 55 is perfectly doable why would you need more?
What’s the point of a motorcycle if you take the highway anyways?
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>>1784070
i just picked up the 2022 Honda Super Cub, 125cc, great for getting around town and driving around in the country [spoiler]and it's the weebmobile[/spoiler].
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>>1787810
>>1787103
wow i'm a drunk faggot, but yeah i've been enjoying my super cub so far. barely more than a scooter, but it's perfect for what i need, and it's a ton of fun
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>>1787103
you only need 50cc
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>>1787813
50cc vs 125cc
Apart from sounding like you’re riding on a weed eater with wheels and disturbing everyone around you and yourself with the noise and exhaust, what’s the difference?
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>>1787885
125s can get a reasonable top speed ~50-60mph so they're safe to drive on most roads.
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>>1787885
I have a 1981 z50 that sounds just like a regular bike but smaller. No one rides 2 strokes anymore.
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>>1787507
I didn't say you should avoid em, just be aware that they aren't that fast. I think they're great for living in a city and I'm thinking about getting a Grom.
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>>1784201
The Navi would be amazing if they made it fuel injection. Nobody wants to clean their carb.
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I get around on a vespa, I like it.
It won't go on a highway but I don't need it to.
Pros:
>Cheap (compared to a car)
>low insurance
>cheap gas
>fun
Cons:
>$500-$1000 in hidden costs for safety equipment
>Other drivers suck
>No highway
>In the rain/snow you need to take an uber or a car.
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>>1784070
Take a functional scooter that you can put top box

>>1787103
Not really functional. you can maybe put top box but no under seat space.
If you want more confidence in rain and slippery condition get 3 wheels
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Greekfag here, I commute on a sym vf125 everyday, it's like the supercub just cheaper and better.
Pros:
>Does highway speed (90km/h on the slow lane getting a tow from a lorry is the ideal way to travel on one)
>Literally burns 2L of petrol for 100km
>50 yurobux insurance per year
>Space under the seat
>Thicc rear tyre for cornering
>Cheapest maintenance after a bicycle (it's a fraction of the cost of a vespa or etc.)
Cons:
>Not a great idea to ride for more than 100km at a time as the engine gets hot
>Requires you to know how to use the gearbox
>Chain needs maintenance every so often
>Isn't a Honda or a vespa therefore bit ugly
>Super sketchy in the rain because no ABS

Overall the Asian market has the commuter motorcycle figured out, underbones are the way to go for excellent traffic usability and some further distance potential (within reason).
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NO YOU FOOLS

There is only one answer, and the answer is:
The new 125cc Honda Hunter Cub aka the most perfect bike in the world. But only if you live in the States. If you live in Canada all you can do is slash your throat in an attept to cope with how gay the motorcycle industry is here.
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>>1790946
What is this even?
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>>1790946
wait isn't canada with 125cc bracket?
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>>1792242
It's a cheap bike that will literally do anything, in any terrain, in any type of weather and never break down. Even has a raised exhaust and intake so you can ride it underwater when crossing rivers and shit.
I think they go for $4-5K brand new. Cheaper than many bicycles posted on /n/ lol
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>>1790946
>not coming to europe
i suffer
on another note, how does the gearbox / shifting work? i hear it's a 4 speed with auto clutch??
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>>1789022
>>In the rain/snow you need to take an uber or a car.
beyond pussy. Square moped tires work great in the rain, you overvalued chinkbike
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>>1792499
Lmao got my sv650s for $4k with 4k miles
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>>1787101
>>1787103
>>1792499
125s are impractical in the U.S. - since you have to get a license/pay insurance in most states, you'd be better off getting a traditional >250cc motorcycle.
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>>1793539
same anywhere that signed the geneva traffic convention
the difference between countries is how lenient they are with light motorcycle licences (a1)
most countries give it with a car licence
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>>1793539
yeah probably, in yurop they make sense, not only for A1fags but also for use in town.
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get yourself a used Yamaha tw200
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>>1793539
>125s are impractical in the U.S. - since you have to get a license/pay insurance in most states, you'd be better off getting a traditional >250cc motorcycle.
If you live in a city and never go on 65MPH+ roads, a 125cc will get you where you want to go. If you want or need highway speed, go for a 250cc
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>>1790946
For being a new model it sure is hard finding one for sale in my state. I just want it to take me around my small town and dirt trails it seems perfect for that and looks great.
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>>1794921
based and dualsportpilled
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>>1794921
I've always wanted one
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>>1796528
what's stopping you?
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>>1784201
230lbs? fuck that get a 250.
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>>1796529
my other vices
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>>1796547
bikes are better than drugs. you can do it
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>>1790946
I live in Miami. It's about a 100 mile (north) by 20 mile (west) rectangle of pure concrete. I suspect most anons live somewhere similar too. Don't delude yourself that you're ever going to take your scooter off-road. Though it's way cooler looking, it's way less practical.
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>>1790946
wanted one of these, but the waitlist in my state is like 2 years
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>>1794969
That's true, but some ninja 250 will also get you where you want to go
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>>1788267
i do my scoot is 50cc 2T
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>>1796670
Traffic jams, pften havw to go on a slightly gravel pavement.

Tho I did that and crashed the other day
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Step aside, peasants.
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>>1801403
>Step aside, peasants.
said the peasant
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I'm 2 days away from buying a 2008 Yamaha ybr 125, first bike ever, giving the previous owner 1k.
Give me some comfort I'm both scared and excited
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>>1803353
Its a motorized bicycle. Have fun and wear your helmet.
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>>1803468
yeah, it only weights 100kgs kek
perfect for me tho I feel, I only do like 20 km a day avg, dont need speed cause i live in a packed city
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>>1803353
Enjoy your bike anon!
Smol displacement is where it's at; I bought an old 600cc for my first bike and regretted it
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Fell in love with this beauty only to find out it doesn't get made anymore

Literally dream first bike
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>>1803877
based
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>>1787885
50cc essentially doesn't need any paper work but you'll have cars breathing on your neck the whole time. 125cc is basically the same as owning bike, except for the licence but you'll fit into traffic.
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>>1790946
if only a similar bike with 200+cc...
>>1796670
not a scooter, and yeah its not for city anons, gets 50mph and is better suited for small towns and back country/trail touring

this trek made me fall in love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geb_QFxp_hs



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