It has never been tougher to get your hands on a vintage mountainbike So many have been butchered into ebikes and its only going to get worse What can be done to educate the public about this wasteful fad?It crushes me inside to see them like that
BIKEMAN 4 U HERE TODAY WITH VINTAGE FUNKY CANNONDALE......
they're shagged out anyway who cares
>>1750878Either that back suspension is extremely broken or this is a fetish model.
>>1750976>snips cables>hacksaws quill stem>converts to 1xyeeeeeep
The truly valuable ones are in collectors hands or getting there, no one is converting PACEs. the mid tier mas produced bikes are the ones getting clapped out and fucked
>>1750976I miss him. Last I heard, he went into the oyster farming business.
I had a CAAD4 and sold it to a guy desperate for transportation. The thing was perfect. Never adjusted anything on it, ever. Easily the bike with most # of miles from me. Had since 14 years old til ~25 years old. The thing was like a little BMX bike compared to today's monster truck long fork slack angle 29 stuff.I actually really regret it, but just didn't have space and had it for too damn long I was beyond bored with it. Flat black with yellow letters. Grinded welds. "Handmade in the USA" on the top tube. Most I could get for it was $160. I've throw away at least that much on stupid tires
>>1751089imagine what its worth today
>>1751460The $ doesn't bother me. The fact that nothing is quite as "Handmade in USA" as that entry level mountain bike was.
Sure, it's seen better days but I defy you to find me a better one. Pro Tip - it's the only one of these they made.
>>1751675I feel like I see that bike on every street in Los Angeles
>>1751869I feel like I see your mom on every street in Los Angeles
>>1750878TIL zip ties, duct tape and things bolted on = butchered.
>>1754374HonestIy I don't even read replies on this website, just look at pics
>>1754374not what butchering isbutchering would be like grinding off a cable stop or throwing away original parts
>>1754374You would hate my delta v 1000 anon , it so beat up its ridiculous
>check ads>'90s titanium MTBs going for thousands>could buy a new titanium MTB for that priceSuffice to say we're already so far into the bubble it's not worth getting into collectible bikes anymore.
>>1754505I disagree.There are so few early 90s mountain bikes because very few people were into the sport back then.I thing some of these will be worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few years.
>>1754523this, it's like 1960's Ferrari GTO costing more than 20 brand new top of the range Ferrari 's, there was a golden age where form and function came together to elevate a sport to the status of an art form. Because Mountain biking as a popular sport was only just coming into being at the end of the 80s the industry was caught off balance, it was small time craftsmen and visionaries who were out there building and riding the bikes they built, experimenting and perfecting brand new technology, and so some truly spectacular creations came out of that time, maybe not bikes to beat todays fully evolved machines, but things of beauty from a time where craftsmanship and vision mattered more then marketing, before computer aided design and cheapo chink shit.It was a golden era where master frame builders and garden shed engineers were able to dominate a new sport from the moment of its conception because the sport was their own invention.Before the big corporations took over and sucked the fucking soul right out.
>>1754548You're confusing B.S.O.'s and mass produced mountain bike-a-likes with early mountain bikes anon. Nobody is suggesting that some low end fashion bike from 1995 is ever going to be a collectors piece, although there may be some nostalgia bucks to be had there.What is and will continue to be collectible are high end early mtb's, anything that was actually raced or was built for racing during the sports formative years, or any surviving masterpieces that were originally sold in small numbers.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334294695067?hash=item4dd5843c9b:g:0jAAAOSww3Rh5W-jhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203576568376?hash=item2f661bea38:g:6hUAAOSwEuBgo-O5https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194734414872?hash=item2d57135c18:g:bV8AAOSwuQhh4F9yhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284526860084?hash=item423f1f5734:g:Ub4AAOSwJr5hjuIghttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224385676249?hash=item343e6db3d9:g:GvYAAOSw6rZf2lay
>>1754540What's wrong with computer aided design?
>>1754540 I have a great love for the boutique anodized cnc 'ed components of the day, would like to build up a bike kitted like that but there was virtually no MTB where I live back in the day so finding vintage parts is next to impossible and I am not dropping ebay prices on these things.
>>1754564No, they are mid tier fashion non-BSO bikes with considerable nostalgia bucks potential.
>>1754578What in the heck got deleted?I don't remember anything bannable in this thread .What the hell ?
>>1755147someone must have been reporting random posts again
>>1754374Electrification rapidly eats through bike's resource.
>>1755161Are you Russian or Chinese, or why do you write like that?
>>1755147Sometimes you get banned for a single post and the rest of your posts in the board are also deleted.
>>1754563Nothing, but it takes the art out of it, look at modern car design or modern homes for example, they are all perfectly functional and efficient but where is the soul? There is something magical about any item that's been hand made by an experienced artizan or master craftsman, we all know it when we see it and it ain't there with anything CAD
>>1755147go ahead and post the image of me admitting it you fucking schizo I know youre watching this thread
>>1755202I don't think I understand
>>1755233I know you're waiting there to post it
>>1755236I am not the anon you think I am.Someone is posting a screenshot that you dislike and you are somehow able to get it deleted?Are you a mod?
I'd give my right nut for this
>>1755762No idea what that is but it's beautiful
>>1755815WTB masterpiece, rare as hens teeth, an early 1980's sub 9kg off-road racer designed and hand built by the prophet Cunningham.Rumours that one of these bikes sold for $40k a few weeks ago.
>>1755861Jesus, think how much it will be worth in twenty yearsThis market is getting lovo
>>1755883the same $20 it is now. some anon says there's "rumours" that one shit old bike sold for 40k to inflate the value of his own shit old bikes and you lap it up
>>1755762It's cool but if you want one so bad why not just re-create it? It's literally just an old 90's mtb with drop bars.
>>1755892because this is what he thinks rich people spend their money on - old bikes that are worse than new entry level hard tails
>>1754563too much freedom that your brain turns offcreativity goes up with limitations
>>1755861patrician taste anon, here's mine
>>1756134Wow, you have kept that in amazing conditionWhat do you think the current value is?what do you have it insured for ?
>>1755941Wat?Freeing your mind increases creativity
No affiliation, and I don't have room for this myself, but if you're into memes:https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d/camarillo-cannondale-delta-1000/7440125419.html
>>1757825I thought all the Delta V1000 were full suspensions
>>1757861anon please tell me its insured
>>1756134That's a beauty, holy fuck, Cunningham worked on these himself in person.
>>1758364you don't insure an old bicycle mate
>>1758366If its a collectible museum quality piece you damn sure do insure them
>>1757825That ad is still up , pretty sure its fake and they are up to some sort of a scam
>>1758838380 is just too much. A friend just bought one in nicer color and better condition for 150.
>>1758557is it the stem shifters or the clips that make you so hard you no taste retrogrouch moron
>>1761813Just the tyres would sell for about $250, the shifter mounts - not the shifters but the mounts - have sold in the past year for $1000+ at least two times, the frames are rare as hens teeth in any condition, that frame would be worth anywhere north of $5k, the bars another $200+, the forks - $1k+, that's if you find any of this stuff, all of it complete and in museum condition, who knows? they don't come to market very often but as things are now, with Cunningham and Pott's reputations growing and entering the mainstream consciousness... $10-15k+, it's rare as hell, perhaps no more than 20 in the world in that kind of condition, most of it has been hand built by actual genius and that includes the stem, the rear brake, the headset and bottom bracket. You are advertising your immense ignorance.
>>1761814This, it's a Stradivarius of MTB, sits just below a pure Cunningham bike right at the top of the tree.
>>1761814>>1761816no tasteno friendsno money 90s mtb life
>>1761819Consoomers will never understand what drives men to seek out quality, if it isn't fashion, if it's not being shilled to them day and night, if it isn't ''''this years model'''' it's simply beyond them.
>>1761838is this what passes for a culture in your barren hellhole of a country
>>1761814I dunno,looks like any old piece of shit 90's mtb to me. What's the appeal?
>>1761908did you even read the thread?
>>1761816dem a little titties
>>1750878>Collectible bikesBike collector
>>1765443How does he get out without breaking all the eggs?
>>1765443What am I looking at here?
>>1767099the heat of the police cooks the jogger
Someone on my buy and sell posted a used, stock 105 Surly Pacer for 2500$ (about 1000$ above MRSP), claiming it will soon be a hot collectors item because the model has been discontinued.You can still buy this bike new, in-store for less than the asking price lmao.
>>1770419do you have a position in the collectible bike market?
>>1767099>>1768238chuckled big style
>>1761814>even in my retarded fever dreams the best I can hope for is for my one prized possession in my filthy studio hotel to be worth slightly less than a good road bike
>>1770663not really, the only bike I own that may have collectors value has been abused pretty hard
>>1770786Sometimes I herd that can add to the value
Do retards really?
>>1773433Not everyone has the skills or talent to do a nice job anon and its not thier fault and they dont need you to shame them
>>1773751But do they really need ruin old bikes I could tune up for hipster by spray painting them?
stop bumping this shit troll thread
>>1773771How new are you?
crescent executive titanium bicycle
anyone had luck spray painting their bikes? pics?
>>1777623anon dont do that a gentle cleaning and tune up is all a non proffesional should be doing
>>1768238Heh, a whole turkey
>>1780531Bacon!!!!You know youre my hero right?When you post here it makes my day!
>>1780597wow a cow and a horse in the same picture
>>1773771yeah, bump this one >>1778242
>>1780598If bacon was in the same room with you , you would crap your pants and cry
>>1750878My bike has never been taken care of in its life as well as I take care of it. Ebike conversions give new life to older bikes. I make sure that I can always de-convert it though, no permanent mods to the frame.I did the pivot bearings, bb, chain, hub bearings, fork service and countless/constant tweaking to perfect this thing. God bless Marzocchi, their forks are the only ones that last forever if you service them. 2004 Rocky Mountain Switch with a Marzocchi Super T Pro. 1x6 with a 30T on the front and a Shimano Hyperglide 14-28 6-speed freewheel on the back. SRAM PC-971 chain and a RD-M786 Shadow+ 10-speed XT derailleur shifted by a vintage Suntour friction thumb shifter. Went with a 6-speed in the back because I needed the extra couple mm to slip into the dropouts without wrestling the thing.I made two 1/4” steel torque arms to protect/reinforce the factory dropouts and support the 1500W hub motor. 7”/6” travel front/rear, on Schwalbe 2.4” Super Moto-X. KT 18-MOSFET controller, set at 1000W at the moment because 13S4P 12Ah battery can’t push the full 45A (25A BMS).If you love bikes and electronics then ebike conversions are like combining your two favourite hobbies.
>>1785098I hope she sees this bro
>>1785135bacon is a man
>>1787192>can only read literally. metaphor, allegory and double entendre makes text imparseable hello China!
>>1787356>>1787299>>1787192>>1785135I cannot work out what happened here. Not any of it
>>1787356>>1787715wow 2 Chinamen! and before you call me a schizo you should be aware I'm schizoaffective not schizophrenic and I AM DIAGNOSED
>>1750878The /k/ommandos know a similar pain; the sporterization and general bubbaing of old milsurp brings us great pain.
>>1788011gillette makes bikes?
>>1788011The more I see this frame the more I like it. It just seems so sturdy, with that extra small triangle in the frame
Bought this old Dawes for £80, it's Reynolds 531 tubing and ius from 1984, I swear to God it's the most comfortable bike I ever rode, not the fastest but talk about hitting that sweet spot where it's fast enough and comfy enough.I laughed a bit at the 90s mtb meme, but these old steel bikes are amazing, especially when you see what you get for the money, fuck, I spent 20x this much on bikes before and then spent hundreds more trying to get them this comfy.WEithout doubt the best £80 I ever spent.
>>1790674what is going on with that saddle? please tell me that's the advert photo and you swapped it immediately.
>>1790692Why fix comfy ?
>>1790674I wonder how much that would be worth on the US market
>>1785121>Ebike conversionstopped reading right there, I don't care what weak, homoerotic, and lazy anons think.
>>1756134My uncle had one just like that
>>1751471Get a Foes mixer bike, with i9 wheels cane.creek suspension, eewings cranks. wear only kitsbow clothes. And then get everything else from the variety of Canadian companies. It will be far more made in America than your old "mountain bike" as literally everything aside from the frame was made in Asia.
>>1800024>Foes mixerThats collectible?
>>1785121>knobby on the back>road tyre at the frontWhy?
>>1808375>DIY e bikeit's called "being retarded".
>>1808375I have two Super Moto-X on there now but waited a bit to swap in the rear because it’s always a bitch to remove a rear hub motor to change the tire.
>>1808390Well fuck you too you nasty little fag.
>>1757852Yeah, that looks like an F500. Be wary out there, these clowns can smell money like it's blood in the water.
>>1755941Been watching a lot of Sam Hyde lately, huh anon?
>>1812319it's one of the principles of classical art
>>1812431Its also the principles of me banging your mom
>>1750878Mountain bike geometry have been getting better every year why would you want an old mountain bike?They're not even aesthetic.
>>1761816imagine the smell of that saddle bros,,,
>>1812474>>1812479I am trying to find the episode where he has a crying jag in the bathroom because Tim like some chicks sweater meat
>>1814858Mountain bike geometry has gotten better every year for riding up and down mountains, but that refined specialization means they are absolute dog shit for any other kind of riding.90s mtbs however represent an early stage in their development, and therefore still retains much of the raod DNA that they were evolving out from, and so this is why they are considered peak bike, because they hit that sweetspot between on and off road versatility, durability, reliability, speed, performance and comfort.
Kek just got a trek 4300 2014 model for 90 bucks, had it serviced and it's working great. It's not a collectors bike or vn that old but I love it so fucking much. Feels like I'm pedaling on a cloud.
86 Cannondale 26x24 hill climber
>>1790645The effects and usefulness of the triple triangle have been debated until this day.
>>1823934A few brands, most prominently GT, have made it their signature design element.
>>1817799Indeed riding my modern Enduro bike on the road sucks while riding a 90s MTB on the road is good enough.
>>1761813A retrogrouch would ride it. A nerd collects it.
>>1823981like a gravel bike?
one of a kind,
>>1827490>stamped v brakesWhat a treat
>>1827503no noodle, so that's kinda dank>tfw V brake arm flexes so much that the pad touches the tire
>>1827490for good reason
>>1827528Inner bar end shill? Is that you? I recognise the typing style.
>>1827490This is the lowest end bike I’ve ever seen in this thread lol
>>1827537I dont think a bike has to have started out as a high end bike to become collectible Look that the1976 huffy evil kenivel bike
>>1750878Mine is over 20 years old, but I’m pretty sure it’s worthless, still in good shape, though.
>>1823934>>1823936>parallel down tube & seat staysthese look so rad, but once you start going above 54cm sizes the geometry starts looking weird
>>1831682It’s worthless, I know. Still a nice bike and nice for what I use it for.
>>1831666damn ugly bike but it looks pristine, congratulations
>>1831666lmao we're still in the age of early 90's shitters for 50 bucks.Come back with an early 80's MTB in pristine condition if you want to collect.
>>1827528For the love of godChange those brakes
>>1831713I don’t collect, I just wanted to show you guys my old mountain bike. I don’t have the space to collect anything else. I’m a sucker for 90’s stuff though and I love to ride, I might try to find one.
>>1831743It will be worth something someday and for now you are loving it You win anon
>>1785121that shit looks like a gun not gonna lie
>>1754540Mein negger, good post. You nailed it. I mean that unironically. Because of what you captured in your post, I will continue searching for (commensurate on price & condition):Your pic relatedRocky Mountain Element TeamIntense Tracer 1st genIntense Uzzi 1st genSanta Cruz Bullit 1st genMountain Cycle San AndreasChecker Pig TitaniumYo Eddie TeamRitchey P-21Kona Hei Hei TeamAlpineStar TiMega or AlMegaMerlin Ti1985 Specialized Stumpjumper TeamSpecialized Stumpjumper with the carbon tubes and Al lugs, early 90'sSchwinn Homegrown Factory Suspension XTRSchwinn Homegrown Straight 8Yeti Ultimate>>1754567Personally I wouldn't consider Paul to be boutique. He and a few others were the answer to fully serviceable derailleurs, in an industry primarily controlled by Shimano along with addressing adjustable shift points such that the derailleur could be used on 6, 7 and 8 speed cassettes and associated shifters without being confided to a Shimano shifter & derailleur with specific indexing. Funnily enough, when Paul and others were released the prices were comparable to XTR...but now...holy shit. GL getting a Paul derailleur under $800 or so.
>>1754540Based a fEarly mtb was such a rare happening, a brand new sport, sprouting from a handful of isolated groups doing there own thing to a global phenomenon in less than a decade, think about it, Raleigh, who were at that time one of, if not the, biggest global force in cycling were so caught out by this new craze, that they had to set up a special projects division just to figure out what a mountain bike is and how to get the fuck into the game.These days fads and crazes are invented top down, thought up by marketing departments and pushed onto the public in the hope that something sticks, the days of kids doing something that they love and that just takes on a life all of its own, completely bypassing the megacorps, forcing them to take notice and play catch up while enthusiasts are already out there pushing the envelope, they're long gone. Mountain Biking was the last true grass roots consumer revolution, imagine that, a time when people were forced to cobble together the bikes they needed because the industry was too busy inhaling their own farts and churning out cookie cutter BMX, road and commuter bikes to notice what the world was actually crying out for.Amazing, a golden age indeed, and some of the bikes and parts that emerged from that tumultuous period are simply some of the best ever built.
>>1832529lol these pastas are great.
>>1755202kek i just post it in your head now
>>1755861>designed and hand built by the prophet CunninghamJesus Fucking Cringe. I was about to jerk off, but you did enough for the both of us.
Bianchi 1912, standard issued bicycle for the Bersaglieri.Not the internal rod brakes. And The suspension, both front and rear.Solid tires, foldable, fixed-gear.
>>1832766Also notice the 4 possible gears, 2 on the rear wheel and 2 on the front wheel. Those giant chunks of metal attached to the wheels are designed to be able to unscrew the wheel manually, with no tools.
>>1832531thats not pasta
>>1812474Holy shit, very underrated show. I don't know anyone else who's seen this.
>>1832936It is now
>>1827532There is more than one person shilling for inner bar ends (at least everyone who has ridden them)
>>1832529That bike is fucking unreal. Having seen the prices for Cook Bros pedals and cranks I imagine that must up in the thousands, whatever it's such a cool looking thing, even with no branding that shape with the fillet brazing etc is subllime. Man I'd love to ride that, 90s mtb a decade early.
>>1832773>>1832766What is the estimated value at auction of something like this?
>>1837627it would be very expensive
>>1834360I'm not that anon but I shill for them 100% too.
>>1750878its hard to get a vintage mountainbike???i fuckin got one for £10 from my local recyling centrejust needed a tune up and a new front dreailier and shes good as new lolyu guys are probably obsessing over the most top end ones that were expensive even when they were newjust get any old 90s mtb theyre all fun
>>1750878im about to put a 250w mid drive with a torque sensor and a rear hub gear on my 90s mtb and you cant stop me
>>1841020>just get any old 90s mtb theyre all funBut are not collectible and wont increase in value nearly as much but yeah they are fun
>>1841138> collecting BICYCLES of all thingsliterally as dumb as collecting sneakers> considering resale value when making purchasesalways an indicator that you don't actually want the thing, you just want to consoom endlessly and tell yourself you were being smart by having the previous consoomption amortize the price of the next
>>1841142>literally as dumb as collecting sneakersThat has become a pretty huge market as well
>>1842833It only means there's too many fools
>>1843018which is the basis of collecting
>>1751062Who are you guys talking about ?
>>1757530>Freeing your mind increases creativityyou think it does but it doesn't
>>1847496BIKE MAN 4 YOU
>>1790674that bike is from a time before the road cyclists ruined everything
>>1847595Is he still alive?
>>1847600>that bike is from a time before the road cyclists ruined everythinga lot of the mtb pioneers WERE road cyclists and much of the early mtb ethos came from the roadIf anything, mtbs and casual bikes got ruined when they strayed too far from it.
Does this count as a collectible bike? I got for free a few years ago and I’ve had only changed out the tires for some panaracers 1.95. Sorry, I don’t know much about it
>>1852881mean streak diamondback, I think it’s from the 80s, all original parts to my knowledge except the bell I added and the tires and brakes
>>1852895forgive me for my shitty phoneposting anon I can provide more detail if needed
>>1817799>>1823981Have you guys considered that maybe old mtb geometry isn't that good for mtb-ing as the modern one?
>>1855150Its not that big a difference and most people use the vintage mtbs for commuters