It has never been tougher to get your hands on a vintage mountainbike So many have been butchered into ebikes and its only going to get worse What can be done to educate the public about this wasteful fad?It crushes me inside to see them like that
BIKEMAN 4 U HERE TODAY WITH VINTAGE FUNKY CANNONDALE......
they're shagged out anyway who cares
>>1750878Either that back suspension is extremely broken or this is a fetish model.
>>1750976>snips cables>hacksaws quill stem>converts to 1xyeeeeeep
The truly valuable ones are in collectors hands or getting there, no one is converting PACEs. the mid tier mas produced bikes are the ones getting clapped out and fucked
>>1750976I miss him. Last I heard, he went into the oyster farming business.
I had a CAAD4 and sold it to a guy desperate for transportation. The thing was perfect. Never adjusted anything on it, ever. Easily the bike with most # of miles from me. Had since 14 years old til ~25 years old. The thing was like a little BMX bike compared to today's monster truck long fork slack angle 29 stuff.I actually really regret it, but just didn't have space and had it for too damn long I was beyond bored with it. Flat black with yellow letters. Grinded welds. "Handmade in the USA" on the top tube. Most I could get for it was $160. I've throw away at least that much on stupid tires
>>1751089imagine what its worth today
>>1751460The $ doesn't bother me. The fact that nothing is quite as "Handmade in USA" as that entry level mountain bike was.
Sure, it's seen better days but I defy you to find me a better one. Pro Tip - it's the only one of these they made.
>>1751675I feel like I see that bike on every street in Los Angeles
>>1751869I feel like I see your mom on every street in Los Angeles
>>1750878TIL zip ties, duct tape and things bolted on = butchered.
>>1754374HonestIy I don't even read replies on this website, just look at pics
>>1754374not what butchering isbutchering would be like grinding off a cable stop or throwing away original parts
>>1754374You would hate my delta v 1000 anon , it so beat up its ridiculous
>check ads>'90s titanium MTBs going for thousands>could buy a new titanium MTB for that priceSuffice to say we're already so far into the bubble it's not worth getting into collectible bikes anymore.
>>1754505I disagree.There are so few early 90s mountain bikes because very few people were into the sport back then.I thing some of these will be worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few years.
>>1754523this, it's like 1960's Ferrari GTO costing more than 20 brand new top of the range Ferrari 's, there was a golden age where form and function came together to elevate a sport to the status of an art form. Because Mountain biking as a popular sport was only just coming into being at the end of the 80s the industry was caught off balance, it was small time craftsmen and visionaries who were out there building and riding the bikes they built, experimenting and perfecting brand new technology, and so some truly spectacular creations came out of that time, maybe not bikes to beat todays fully evolved machines, but things of beauty from a time where craftsmanship and vision mattered more then marketing, before computer aided design and cheapo chink shit.It was a golden era where master frame builders and garden shed engineers were able to dominate a new sport from the moment of its conception because the sport was their own invention.Before the big corporations took over and sucked the fucking soul right out.
>>1754548You're confusing B.S.O.'s and mass produced mountain bike-a-likes with early mountain bikes anon. Nobody is suggesting that some low end fashion bike from 1995 is ever going to be a collectors piece, although there may be some nostalgia bucks to be had there.What is and will continue to be collectible are high end early mtb's, anything that was actually raced or was built for racing during the sports formative years, or any surviving masterpieces that were originally sold in small numbers.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334294695067?hash=item4dd5843c9b:g:0jAAAOSww3Rh5W-jhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203576568376?hash=item2f661bea38:g:6hUAAOSwEuBgo-O5https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194734414872?hash=item2d57135c18:g:bV8AAOSwuQhh4F9yhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284526860084?hash=item423f1f5734:g:Ub4AAOSwJr5hjuIghttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224385676249?hash=item343e6db3d9:g:GvYAAOSw6rZf2lay
>>1754540What's wrong with computer aided design?
>>1754540 I have a great love for the boutique anodized cnc 'ed components of the day, would like to build up a bike kitted like that but there was virtually no MTB where I live back in the day so finding vintage parts is next to impossible and I am not dropping ebay prices on these things.
>>1754564No, they are mid tier fashion non-BSO bikes with considerable nostalgia bucks potential.
>>1754578What in the heck got deleted?I don't remember anything bannable in this thread .What the hell ?
>>1755147someone must have been reporting random posts again
>>1754374Electrification rapidly eats through bike's resource.
>>1755161Are you Russian or Chinese, or why do you write like that?
>>1755147Sometimes you get banned for a single post and the rest of your posts in the board are also deleted.
>>1754563Nothing, but it takes the art out of it, look at modern car design or modern homes for example, they are all perfectly functional and efficient but where is the soul? There is something magical about any item that's been hand made by an experienced artizan or master craftsman, we all know it when we see it and it ain't there with anything CAD
>>1755147go ahead and post the image of me admitting it you fucking schizo I know youre watching this thread
>>1755202I don't think I understand
>>1755233I know you're waiting there to post it
>>1755236I am not the anon you think I am.Someone is posting a screenshot that you dislike and you are somehow able to get it deleted?Are you a mod?
I'd give my right nut for this
>>1755762No idea what that is but it's beautiful
>>1755815WTB masterpiece, rare as hens teeth, an early 1980's sub 9kg off-road racer designed and hand built by the prophet Cunningham.Rumours that one of these bikes sold for $40k a few weeks ago.
>>1755861Jesus, think how much it will be worth in twenty yearsThis market is getting lovo
>>1755883the same $20 it is now. some anon says there's "rumours" that one shit old bike sold for 40k to inflate the value of his own shit old bikes and you lap it up
>>1755762It's cool but if you want one so bad why not just re-create it? It's literally just an old 90's mtb with drop bars.
>>1755892because this is what he thinks rich people spend their money on - old bikes that are worse than new entry level hard tails
>>1754563too much freedom that your brain turns offcreativity goes up with limitations
>>1755861patrician taste anon, here's mine
>>1756134Wow, you have kept that in amazing conditionWhat do you think the current value is?what do you have it insured for ?
>>1755941Wat?Freeing your mind increases creativity
No affiliation, and I don't have room for this myself, but if you're into memes:https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d/camarillo-cannondale-delta-1000/7440125419.html
>>1757825I thought all the Delta V1000 were full suspensions
>>1757861anon please tell me its insured
>>1756134That's a beauty, holy fuck, Cunningham worked on these himself in person.
>>1758364you don't insure an old bicycle mate
>>1758366If its a collectible museum quality piece you damn sure do insure them
>>1757825That ad is still up , pretty sure its fake and they are up to some sort of a scam
>>1758838380 is just too much. A friend just bought one in nicer color and better condition for 150.
>>1758557is it the stem shifters or the clips that make you so hard you no taste retrogrouch moron
>>1761813Just the tyres would sell for about $250, the shifter mounts - not the shifters but the mounts - have sold in the past year for $1000+ at least two times, the frames are rare as hens teeth in any condition, that frame would be worth anywhere north of $5k, the bars another $200+, the forks - $1k+, that's if you find any of this stuff, all of it complete and in museum condition, who knows? they don't come to market very often but as things are now, with Cunningham and Pott's reputations growing and entering the mainstream consciousness... $10-15k+, it's rare as hell, perhaps no more than 20 in the world in that kind of condition, most of it has been hand built by actual genius and that includes the stem, the rear brake, the headset and bottom bracket. You are advertising your immense ignorance.
>>1761814This, it's a Stradivarius of MTB, sits just below a pure Cunningham bike right at the top of the tree.
>>1761814>>1761816no tasteno friendsno money 90s mtb life
>>1761819Consoomers will never understand what drives men to seek out quality, if it isn't fashion, if it's not being shilled to them day and night, if it isn't ''''this years model'''' it's simply beyond them.
>>1761838is this what passes for a culture in your barren hellhole of a country
>>1761814I dunno,looks like any old piece of shit 90's mtb to me. What's the appeal?
>>1761908did you even read the thread?
>>1761816dem a little titties
>>1750878>Collectible bikesBike collector
>>1765443How does he get out without breaking all the eggs?
>>1765443What am I looking at here?
>>1767099the heat of the police cooks the jogger
Someone on my buy and sell posted a used, stock 105 Surly Pacer for 2500$ (about 1000$ above MRSP), claiming it will soon be a hot collectors item because the model has been discontinued.You can still buy this bike new, in-store for less than the asking price lmao.
>>1770419do you have a position in the collectible bike market?
>>1767099>>1768238chuckled big style
>>1761814>even in my retarded fever dreams the best I can hope for is for my one prized possession in my filthy studio hotel to be worth slightly less than a good road bike
>>1770663not really, the only bike I own that may have collectors value has been abused pretty hard
>>1770786Sometimes I herd that can add to the value
Do retards really?
>>1773433Not everyone has the skills or talent to do a nice job anon and its not thier fault and they dont need you to shame them
>>1773751But do they really need ruin old bikes I could tune up for hipster by spray painting them?
stop bumping this shit troll thread
>>1773771How new are you?
crescent executive titanium bicycle
anyone had luck spray painting their bikes? pics?
>>1777623anon dont do that a gentle cleaning and tune up is all a non proffesional should be doing
>>1768238Heh, a whole turkey
>>1780531Bacon!!!!You know youre my hero right?When you post here it makes my day!
>>1780597wow a cow and a horse in the same picture
>>1773771yeah, bump this one >>1778242
>>1780598If bacon was in the same room with you , you would crap your pants and cry
>>1750878My bike has never been taken care of in its life as well as I take care of it. Ebike conversions give new life to older bikes. I make sure that I can always de-convert it though, no permanent mods to the frame.I did the pivot bearings, bb, chain, hub bearings, fork service and countless/constant tweaking to perfect this thing. God bless Marzocchi, their forks are the only ones that last forever if you service them. 2004 Rocky Mountain Switch with a Marzocchi Super T Pro. 1x6 with a 30T on the front and a Shimano Hyperglide 14-28 6-speed freewheel on the back. SRAM PC-971 chain and a RD-M786 Shadow+ 10-speed XT derailleur shifted by a vintage Suntour friction thumb shifter. Went with a 6-speed in the back because I needed the extra couple mm to slip into the dropouts without wrestling the thing.I made two 1/4” steel torque arms to protect/reinforce the factory dropouts and support the 1500W hub motor. 7”/6” travel front/rear, on Schwalbe 2.4” Super Moto-X. KT 18-MOSFET controller, set at 1000W at the moment because 13S4P 12Ah battery can’t push the full 45A (25A BMS).If you love bikes and electronics then ebike conversions are like combining your two favourite hobbies.
>>1785098I hope she sees this bro
>>1785135bacon is a man
>>1787192>can only read literally. metaphor, allegory and double entendre makes text imparseable hello China!
>>1787356>>1787299>>1787192>>1785135I cannot work out what happened here. Not any of it
>>1787356>>1787715wow 2 Chinamen! and before you call me a schizo you should be aware I'm schizoaffective not schizophrenic and I AM DIAGNOSED
>>1750878The /k/ommandos know a similar pain; the sporterization and general bubbaing of old milsurp brings us great pain.
>>1788011gillette makes bikes?
>>1788011The more I see this frame the more I like it. It just seems so sturdy, with that extra small triangle in the frame
Bought this old Dawes for £80, it's Reynolds 531 tubing and ius from 1984, I swear to God it's the most comfortable bike I ever rode, not the fastest but talk about hitting that sweet spot where it's fast enough and comfy enough.I laughed a bit at the 90s mtb meme, but these old steel bikes are amazing, especially when you see what you get for the money, fuck, I spent 20x this much on bikes before and then spent hundreds more trying to get them this comfy.WEithout doubt the best £80 I ever spent.
>>1790674what is going on with that saddle? please tell me that's the advert photo and you swapped it immediately.
>>1790692Why fix comfy ?
>>1790674I wonder how much that would be worth on the US market
>>1785121>Ebike conversionstopped reading right there, I don't care what weak, homoerotic, and lazy anons think.
>>1756134My uncle had one just like that
>>1751471Get a Foes mixer bike, with i9 wheels cane.creek suspension, eewings cranks. wear only kitsbow clothes. And then get everything else from the variety of Canadian companies. It will be far more made in America than your old "mountain bike" as literally everything aside from the frame was made in Asia.
>>1800024>Foes mixerThats collectible?
>>1785121>knobby on the back>road tyre at the frontWhy?
>>1808375>DIY e bikeit's called "being retarded".
>>1808375I have two Super Moto-X on there now but waited a bit to swap in the rear because it’s always a bitch to remove a rear hub motor to change the tire.
>>1808390Well fuck you too you nasty little fag.
>>1757852Yeah, that looks like an F500. Be wary out there, these clowns can smell money like it's blood in the water.
>>1755941Been watching a lot of Sam Hyde lately, huh anon?
>>1812319it's one of the principles of classical art
>>1812431Its also the principles of me banging your mom
>>1750878Mountain bike geometry have been getting better every year why would you want an old mountain bike?They're not even aesthetic.
>>1761816imagine the smell of that saddle bros,,,
>>1812474>>1812479I am trying to find the episode where he has a crying jag in the bathroom because Tim like some chicks sweater meat
>>1814858Mountain bike geometry has gotten better every year for riding up and down mountains, but that refined specialization means they are absolute dog shit for any other kind of riding.90s mtbs however represent an early stage in their development, and therefore still retains much of the raod DNA that they were evolving out from, and so this is why they are considered peak bike, because they hit that sweetspot between on and off road versatility, durability, reliability, speed, performance and comfort.
Kek just got a trek 4300 2014 model for 90 bucks, had it serviced and it's working great. It's not a collectors bike or vn that old but I love it so fucking much. Feels like I'm pedaling on a cloud.
86 Cannondale 26x24 hill climber
>>1790645The effects and usefulness of the triple triangle have been debated until this day.
>>1823934A few brands, most prominently GT, have made it their signature design element.
>>1817799Indeed riding my modern Enduro bike on the road sucks while riding a 90s MTB on the road is good enough.
>>1761813A retrogrouch would ride it. A nerd collects it.
>>1823981like a gravel bike?
one of a kind,
>>1827490>stamped v brakesWhat a treat
>>1827503no noodle, so that's kinda dank>tfw V brake arm flexes so much that the pad touches the tire
>>1827490for good reason
>>1827528Inner bar end shill? Is that you? I recognise the typing style.
>>1827490This is the lowest end bike I’ve ever seen in this thread lol
>>1827537I dont think a bike has to have started out as a high end bike to become collectible Look that the1976 huffy evil kenivel bike
>>1750878Mine is over 20 years old, but I’m pretty sure it’s worthless, still in good shape, though.
>>1823934>>1823936>parallel down tube & seat staysthese look so rad, but once you start going above 54cm sizes the geometry starts looking weird
>>1831682It’s worthless, I know. Still a nice bike and nice for what I use it for.
>>1831666damn ugly bike but it looks pristine, congratulations
>>1831666lmao we're still in the age of early 90's shitters for 50 bucks.Come back with an early 80's MTB in pristine condition if you want to collect.
>>1827528For the love of godChange those brakes
>>1831713I don’t collect, I just wanted to show you guys my old mountain bike. I don’t have the space to collect anything else. I’m a sucker for 90’s stuff though and I love to ride, I might try to find one.
>>1831743It will be worth something someday and for now you are loving it You win anon
>>1785121that shit looks like a gun not gonna lie
>>1754540Mein negger, good post. You nailed it. I mean that unironically. Because of what you captured in your post, I will continue searching for (commensurate on price & condition):Your pic relatedRocky Mountain Element TeamIntense Tracer 1st genIntense Uzzi 1st genSanta Cruz Bullit 1st genMountain Cycle San AndreasChecker Pig TitaniumYo Eddie TeamRitchey P-21Kona Hei Hei TeamAlpineStar TiMega or AlMegaMerlin Ti1985 Specialized Stumpjumper TeamSpecialized Stumpjumper with the carbon tubes and Al lugs, early 90'sSchwinn Homegrown Factory Suspension XTRSchwinn Homegrown Straight 8Yeti Ultimate>>1754567Personally I wouldn't consider Paul to be boutique. He and a few others were the answer to fully serviceable derailleurs, in an industry primarily controlled by Shimano along with addressing adjustable shift points such that the derailleur could be used on 6, 7 and 8 speed cassettes and associated shifters without being confided to a Shimano shifter & derailleur with specific indexing. Funnily enough, when Paul and others were released the prices were comparable to XTR...but now...holy shit. GL getting a Paul derailleur under $800 or so.
>>1754540Based a fEarly mtb was such a rare happening, a brand new sport, sprouting from a handful of isolated groups doing there own thing to a global phenomenon in less than a decade, think about it, Raleigh, who were at that time one of, if not the, biggest global force in cycling were so caught out by this new craze, that they had to set up a special projects division just to figure out what a mountain bike is and how to get the fuck into the game.These days fads and crazes are invented top down, thought up by marketing departments and pushed onto the public in the hope that something sticks, the days of kids doing something that they love and that just takes on a life all of its own, completely bypassing the megacorps, forcing them to take notice and play catch up while enthusiasts are already out there pushing the envelope, they're long gone. Mountain Biking was the last true grass roots consumer revolution, imagine that, a time when people were forced to cobble together the bikes they needed because the industry was too busy inhaling their own farts and churning out cookie cutter BMX, road and commuter bikes to notice what the world was actually crying out for.Amazing, a golden age indeed, and some of the bikes and parts that emerged from that tumultuous period are simply some of the best ever built.
>>1832529lol these pastas are great.
>>1755202kek i just post it in your head now
>>1755861>designed and hand built by the prophet CunninghamJesus Fucking Cringe. I was about to jerk off, but you did enough for the both of us.
Bianchi 1912, standard issued bicycle for the Bersaglieri.Not the internal rod brakes. And The suspension, both front and rear.Solid tires, foldable, fixed-gear.
>>1832766Also notice the 4 possible gears, 2 on the rear wheel and 2 on the front wheel. Those giant chunks of metal attached to the wheels are designed to be able to unscrew the wheel manually, with no tools.
>>1832531thats not pasta
>>1812474Holy shit, very underrated show. I don't know anyone else who's seen this.
>>1832936It is now
>>1827532There is more than one person shilling for inner bar ends (at least everyone who has ridden them)
>>1832529That bike is fucking unreal. Having seen the prices for Cook Bros pedals and cranks I imagine that must up in the thousands, whatever it's such a cool looking thing, even with no branding that shape with the fillet brazing etc is subllime. Man I'd love to ride that, 90s mtb a decade early.
>>1832773>>1832766What is the estimated value at auction of something like this?
>>1837627it would be very expensive
>>1834360I'm not that anon but I shill for them 100% too.
>>1750878its hard to get a vintage mountainbike???i fuckin got one for £10 from my local recyling centrejust needed a tune up and a new front dreailier and shes good as new lolyu guys are probably obsessing over the most top end ones that were expensive even when they were newjust get any old 90s mtb theyre all fun
>>1750878im about to put a 250w mid drive with a torque sensor and a rear hub gear on my 90s mtb and you cant stop me
>>1841020>just get any old 90s mtb theyre all funBut are not collectible and wont increase in value nearly as much but yeah they are fun
>>1841138> collecting BICYCLES of all thingsliterally as dumb as collecting sneakers> considering resale value when making purchasesalways an indicator that you don't actually want the thing, you just want to consoom endlessly and tell yourself you were being smart by having the previous consoomption amortize the price of the next
>>1841142>literally as dumb as collecting sneakersThat has become a pretty huge market as well
>>1842833It only means there's too many fools
>>1843018which is the basis of collecting
>>1751062Who are you guys talking about ?
>>1757530>Freeing your mind increases creativityyou think it does but it doesn't
>>1847496BIKE MAN 4 YOU
>>1790674that bike is from a time before the road cyclists ruined everything
>>1847595Is he still alive?
>>1847600>that bike is from a time before the road cyclists ruined everythinga lot of the mtb pioneers WERE road cyclists and much of the early mtb ethos came from the roadIf anything, mtbs and casual bikes got ruined when they strayed too far from it.
Does this count as a collectible bike? I got for free a few years ago and I’ve had only changed out the tires for some panaracers 1.95. Sorry, I don’t know much about it
>>1852881mean streak diamondback, I think it’s from the 80s, all original parts to my knowledge except the bell I added and the tires and brakes
>>1852895forgive me for my shitty phoneposting anon I can provide more detail if needed
>>1817799>>1823981Have you guys considered that maybe old mtb geometry isn't that good for mtb-ing as the modern one?
>>1855150Its not that big a difference and most people use the vintage mtbs for commuters
>>1754377based and same uwu
>>1755196>modern cars>modern homes>efficientbro im sorry to tell you this but the 90s is when things were efficient modern deisgn is purely about selling and nothig else
>>1773433>a pre fucked extremely desirable bikebuy it right nowim looking at one of these too to fuck up with modern parts but i feel guilty even thinking about it, a prefucked bike is great cos it can only get better no matter what you do
>>1831714bleh upgrade to cantilevers vbrakes were as much a mistake as disk brakes
>>1750878saw this for saleits very tempting ive never seen a bike so sexy
>>1750878i miss when there was interesting ideas in frame design all bikes just look the same nowmakes me wanna learn to weld so i can just make my own basedmobile with a rly cool looking frame
>>1750878are raleighs considered collectable?i love 90s mtbs and im looking for a nice one but like not too nice, i beat up and modify my bikes something actually collectable ending up in my hands would be a tragedy
>>1858745Very few bikes are really collectible. Autists lose their shit trying to make literally one MTB brand “collectible” and it’s still highly debatable.
>>1855150fucking duh modern mtbs are incredible at bombing trails but completely useless for any actual real world offroading or casual riding90s mtbs are great because they can be ridden in places other than downhill parksyou can ride them TO the mountain UP the mountain and back down again or just use them as commuters capable of riding stairsits the fact they arent so good at mtbing that makes them so great
>>1858747ok so nobody is gonna guage their eyes out if i put modern chinese parts on this bike?not that i care what they think i just dont wana ruin somones dream bike
>>1858745There's a HUGE middleground between collectable top shelf bikes and basic shitters with plastic groupsets, nutted wheels, and steel seatposts. it would trigger me if you did a custom chinkshit build on that just because you should ruin something nicer if you're gonna put the money/effort in
>>1858777i should ruin a nicer bike???
>>1858777checked>put the money inthats why im using chinkshit im tryna build the best bike i can for the cheapest i can
>>1858777if it makes you feel any better i dont intend to do anything thats not reversable
>>1858733Just clean the old parts and put them up for sale. I've parted out my bike and sold off the parts before rebuilding it. Feels good to know that old parts go to people that will use them and not collector fags.2x10 m5120 feels so pep and quiet compared to old 3x7. Plenty more range for long climbs, too.
>>1858930Of course, take the best and abuse it. That's how successful people live
>>1859048it doesn't>>1859142>I've parted out my bike and sold off the parts before rebuilding it. Feels good to know that old parts go to people that will use them and not collector fags.that really depends on what price you sold them at then doesn't it. Most parting out and selling partsfags are just artificially inflating the market. >2x10 m5120 feels so pep and quiet compared to old 3x7.what fucking nonsense lmao. you mean new clean thing lubed well feels quiet and efficient. There's zero difference in real good service>Plenty more rangealso bullshit
>>1859144I sold everything at prices below average and that got me 2/3 of the budget for upgrades.I wash, clean and lube everything regularly, I'm not a consoomer fag.I mean the springs are stronger and geometry is better - less noise or chain flop and faster shifts. And there is more range: 46/26>28/22. Overall, I like it much more.
But it is simple: we mail manufacturers asking for rigid mtbs
>>1859151Let's mail pipe bombs
>>1859248made of chromoly steel?
>>1785121>Ebike conversions give new life to older bikes.Opposite.>I make sure that I can always de-convert it though, no permanent mods to the frameBetter yet don't, so I know the frame has gone through hell.
I don't think I have anything considered collectible but I do still have my Huffy Nitro BMX from when I was a kid in the 80's and I'm guessing there aren't a ton of those still around. I also just picked up a pre-Raleigh Phillips 3-speed for 20 bucks, but that's probably only rareish here in the upper midwest.
>>1768238here in germany police busted bike thieves that had 2x the amount of bikes in that pic stored.because almost no one came and wanted their bike back, police had to give the bikes back to the thieves.
>>1750878Pic is not mine. But i have just got the same 1960s NSU Sport bicycle. Single speed. I just overhauled it and its amazing how well everything was made, bottom bracket and rear hub have oil holes so you can re lube them.Cones in the bearings were easy to adjust because the axles have slots so the nut does not change the cone when tightening. its pretty lightweight for being a 60s product, No rust in the tubes because there painted on the inside It has internal cable routing. the lights and dynamo still work. the chain was lengthened over 1 link so this thing was definitely rode a lot.
>>1867932cont.The wheels have huge aluminum wingnuts so you can remove them without tools, who needs a quick release lever?While disassembling nothing was wonky like you hear horror story's of cottered cranks being stuck in eternity, the cotters went out with a few light hammer taps.
>>1867932>Cones in the bearings were easy to adjust because the axles have slots so the nut does not change the cone when tightening.keyed axles are kinda nice but if you have a vice (a tiny one is best) you can adjust regular cones just as easily. Stick the other side of the axle in a socket in the vice or just in the vice and then it won't lose adjustment when you make tiny changes.
>>1867932What is something like that worth in today's market?
>>1871368you can still get them for fair prices 50-100€ if it can be rode right away. and nothing is missing that's a good price. I payed 65€ Cleaned and greased all bearings (they were empty after 60y) installed a new old front brake found one for like 20€ on eBay. cleaned Polished and waxed the frame, and sprayed the inside with wax.I would maybe sell it for like 120 for a working bike a great price. Most of the time the ugly rusty black ones are on eBay for over 500€ the color full go for 50, because people think its antique.a real pre war model is worth more to a collector but those are pretty rare.
>>1874531haha got em!!
>>1867932Could one of these be beefed up to be a gravel bike?
>>1879165that's already a gravel bike
>>1858744Watch this for inspiration.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ng8MYcGL4
>>1879172in 33 they even made a gravel bikecalled defense sport
>>1879649Any decent rigid bike that is not a delicate track or road race bike is a gravel bike. Gravel is basically every surface that can be ridden on that isn't asphalt/tarmac/pavement and the reality is that the right tyres will make most bikes suitable.Of course the multinationals need to be able to slap a label on everything so they can market it at consoomers. That bike you posted makes the consoomer seethe, as does picrel that cost £60, they seethe because they lusted after a youtube advert masquerading as a video and spent 2 grand on a bike that will be fucked in 18 months.
>>1879652>as does picrel that cost £60that rear tire cost 45. good for you if you got the rest for 15
>>1879668Nope, the bike cost me 35 quid, I had the drops, stem and levers etc in the shed, the rear tyre came with the bike, the front I took off my orange. I spent 25 quid give or take on cables and bar tape.
I have a 1999 Gary Fisher hardtail sitting on a garage rack I haven't rode in years. I wonder if it's worth anything?
>>1879772yeah any bike is cheap if you find a stupid deal and have a shed full of components
>>1755195>>1755147I don't remember posting this, nor do I remember getting a ban for it (I screencap my bans because I am mentally ill, also they only nuke all your posts if you're on an all day shitpost rampage which has happened to me on other boards but never here because this board is too slow)I think it was just one of my fans randomly reporting my posts and the jannies sometimes will just delete anything that gets reported without looking at it
So are there even any of these around that are new (old stock) in the current year? I've always wanted one of these ever since I saw it on the front page of a magazine in a Waldenbooks in the 90s. I don't even know how practical of a bike it actually is or how much it'd cost unridden these days but it looks fucking cool.
I really want picrel but either some Hipster fucked it up by making it a fixie, the Fork got swapped for some newer bullshit or its just completely overpriced ("muh I know what I got")
>>1880004>reeee I want this iconic and scarce bike, why won't anyone sell it to me for cheap?entitled cunt
>>1880004>("muh I know what I got")They got something you want.
>>1880004>headshock2 inches of travel if you find one that isn't worn out . if it's worn out, you're fucked, it takes proprietary needle bearings that Cannondale quit making like 20 years ago. if it does still work, it'll be irreplaceable garbage in a few years when you do wear it out. just get something else.
>>1880004i have literally never heard of someone finding a vintage headshock desirable lol. I see those bikes all the time perusing random craigslists. Fixie conversion, what the fuck? It's not even vaguely suitable for a number of reasons.
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>>1750878im so temptedits for sale near me for £150too big and too nice for me though
>>1881794You should get it and flip it in a year or two. You're stupid if you don't
Has any other thread ever lasted over a year?
>>1886283Sky king threads do
>>1886283I've seen plenty of thread last that long during my time on /n/.
>>1790674>but these old steel bikes are amazing, especially when you see what you get for the moneyi have something called a alpine de lux, old 10 speed. no idea the brand, they are quite common, but all fucked to death. mine is basically new. tyres were fucked. put some decent new ones on and it flies about, really nice bike to ride. but yeah, gear changes arent great and brakes are a disaster. but i wouldnt swap it for anything new.
>>1886283in some other thread here someone said n has become fast, and that they used to have threads that lasted 3 or 4 years.
>>1887806/n/ has become /pol/ in the last couple of years.
anyone here know much about old Ritchey? got this for sale locally. The spec is frankenboomer so that doesn't tell much. I know there were 'team' bikes as well, but these 'p' series would still be really nice right? Logic tubing?
>>1888589seen the frames go for more than a grand without forks, great frames that are highly prized.
Which 90s MTBs were the best back then? I want to buy a cheap one but at the same time look for a top tier model and not accidentally buy something that was shit even back in the days
>>1888657That's not how to shop for classic bikes. Looking for something specific only excludes potentially great stuff you've never heard of, which is especially stupid seeing as a lot of the absolute best bikes are quite rare. Shop on drivetrain and tubeset spec. It's quite easy to get an idea of the relative quality of a bike just by looking at the parts on it, and, the steel used.
>>1888589>frankenboomerwhat does that mean
Thoughts on Kona Kapu?
>>1889003frankenstein + boomera bunch of random nightmarish parts, like the stem riser
>>1889025pic rel is very high spec. Genius is fancy OS modern tubing, top of the line, very nice. Like 853. midschool steel road bikes are fantastic i'm a fan of american bikes generally too. don't like straight blade forks much though. And the steerer... oof. Looks like 1" threadless, with a collar to clamp it instead of the stem, and a quill stem. It very likely has the tapered preload system, like the 'diatech' ones on old marins, which is awful, and constantly goes out of adjustment. What the fuck where they thinking?
Any love for the limited edition bromptons?I was thinking of picking up a t-line with this month’s drop.The chpt3 also looks cool
>>1887806>>1886283I can still remember years ago the rock island thread that lasted like 6 years
>>1750878saw this for sale earliergod i love crazy 90s framesim trying to collect as many pictures of unusual frames as i can cos i find them fascinatingrly wish modern bikes werent so over refined and boring
>>1883659the thing is i kinda just wanna buy a bike to ride not to flipeven if it was in my size a bike that nice doesnt belong in my hands id crash it or something
>>1879967wow that thing looks badass
>>1750878is this a collectable bike?mint condition saracen fastraxlooks unridden like it was a shop window model that never got sold or somethingi think it looks like a really fun and quite attractive bike toolove the top tube cable routing on old bikes, dont know why all bikes dont do that
>>1894116>is this a collectable bike?no dudeshit tier groupsetprobably a pretty basic bike all-round
>>1894136damn thouhght it looked pretty nicearent these old saracens rare now tho?
>>1894285rare != valuable
>>1750878this is the 90sest thing i have ever seen in my life
>>1897011are mongeese collectible ?
I have complete '91 Bridgestone MB-1 and a '93 GT Bravado LE in the team scream colors. Pulled both from the landfill so probably not worth much but I like them.
>>1899802weird old ones are
>>1867932>>1867976>>1867932The bit about the axle reminds me of old Raleigh hubs.You would butt the rh cone against the axle shoulder, and then that axle-cone assembly was all adjusted by the cone on the other side.A friend of mine was into old three speeds, and there were a bunch of clever details.
this masterpiece is probably worth thousands by now. BMC is without a shadow of a doubt the most underrated manufacturer of top tier bicycles on Earth. Saw one of these go for 3.5k on ebay last year. They don't make many and those who buy them usually keep them. But every now and then a BMC owner snuffs it and his wife puts it up for sale, sadly I'm yet to find one after many years of searching. Has to be a 2017 - 2020 model, after that they went to shit.
>>1750878How much is my Murray Baja worth?
>>1907167What year?Condition?Do you have pics?
So uh... this might be directly in opposition to OP butI've been looking at old MTBs on craigslist, for now just to ride around on as a cheap bike, maybe convert to singlespeed, but in the future I'd like to add a massive fuck off 50 mile range battery so I can ride to the next city over. Regardless, I've come here seeking advice because it seems like you guys would know best. The two main ones I'm seeing are a Trek Mountain Track 850 that says made in USA or a Diamondback Ascent (I think the 1994 green one) for half the price. Also seeing a Raleigh M30, a Specialized Rockhopper (no idea what model its black with red and silver lettering and a normal seatpost), and some "Performance" branded bikes. Any suggestions on whats good whats bad?
bikes are for riding not collecting
>>1750878bicycles are for manchildren. grow up
Are these collectible to anyone? Got it from my dad, I want to say early 90s.
>>1761814Cunningham could never ride the north shore tho