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It has never been tougher to get your hands on a vintage mountainbike
So many have been butchered into ebikes and its only going to get worse
What can be done to educate the public about this wasteful fad?
It crushes me inside to see them like that
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BIKEMAN 4 U HERE TODAY WITH VINTAGE FUNKY CANNONDALE......
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they're shagged out anyway who cares
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mods
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>>1750878
Either that back suspension is extremely broken or this is a fetish model.
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>>1750976
>snips cables
>hacksaws quill stem
>converts to 1x
yeeeeeep
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The truly valuable ones are in collectors hands or getting there, no one is converting PACEs. the mid tier mas produced bikes are the ones getting clapped out and fucked
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>>1750976
I miss him. Last I heard, he went into the oyster farming business.
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I had a CAAD4 and sold it to a guy desperate for transportation. The thing was perfect. Never adjusted anything on it, ever. Easily the bike with most # of miles from me. Had since 14 years old til ~25 years old. The thing was like a little BMX bike compared to today's monster truck long fork slack angle 29 stuff.
I actually really regret it, but just didn't have space and had it for too damn long I was beyond bored with it. Flat black with yellow letters. Grinded welds. "Handmade in the USA" on the top tube. Most I could get for it was $160. I've throw away at least that much on stupid tires
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>>1751089
imagine what its worth today
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>>1751460
The $ doesn't bother me. The fact that nothing is quite as "Handmade in USA" as that entry level mountain bike was.
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Sure, it's seen better days but I defy you to find me a better one. Pro Tip - it's the only one of these they made.
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>>1751675
I feel like I see that bike on every street in Los Angeles
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>>1751869
I feel like I see your mom on every street in Los Angeles
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>>1753089
got em!
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>>1750878
TIL zip ties, duct tape and things bolted on = butchered.
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>>1754374
HonestIy I don't even read replies on this website, just look at pics
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>>1754374
not what butchering is
butchering would be like grinding off a cable stop or throwing away original parts
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>>1754374
You would hate my delta v 1000 anon , it so beat up its ridiculous
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>check ads
>'90s titanium MTBs going for thousands
>could buy a new titanium MTB for that price
Suffice to say we're already so far into the bubble it's not worth getting into collectible bikes anymore.
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>>1754505
I disagree.
There are so few early 90s mountain bikes because very few people were into the sport back then.
I thing some of these will be worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few years.
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>>1754523
this, it's like 1960's Ferrari GTO costing more than 20 brand new top of the range Ferrari 's, there was a golden age where form and function came together to elevate a sport to the status of an art form. Because Mountain biking as a popular sport was only just coming into being at the end of the 80s the industry was caught off balance, it was small time craftsmen and visionaries who were out there building and riding the bikes they built, experimenting and perfecting brand new technology, and so some truly spectacular creations came out of that time, maybe not bikes to beat todays fully evolved machines, but things of beauty from a time where craftsmanship and vision mattered more then marketing, before computer aided design and cheapo chink shit.

It was a golden era where master frame builders and garden shed engineers were able to dominate a new sport from the moment of its conception because the sport was their own invention.

Before the big corporations took over and sucked the fucking soul right out.
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>>1754548
You're confusing B.S.O.'s and mass produced mountain bike-a-likes with early mountain bikes anon. Nobody is suggesting that some low end fashion bike from 1995 is ever going to be a collectors piece, although there may be some nostalgia bucks to be had there.

What is and will continue to be collectible are high end early mtb's, anything that was actually raced or was built for racing during the sports formative years, or any surviving masterpieces that were originally sold in small numbers.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334294695067?hash=item4dd5843c9b:g:0jAAAOSww3Rh5W-j

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203576568376?hash=item2f661bea38:g:6hUAAOSwEuBgo-O5

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194734414872?hash=item2d57135c18:g:bV8AAOSwuQhh4F9y

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284526860084?hash=item423f1f5734:g:Ub4AAOSwJr5hjuIg

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224385676249?hash=item343e6db3d9:g:GvYAAOSw6rZf2lay
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>>1754540
What's wrong with computer aided design?
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>>1754540
I have a great love for the boutique anodized cnc 'ed components of the day, would like to build up a bike kitted like that but there was virtually no MTB where I live back in the day so finding vintage parts is next to impossible and I am not dropping ebay prices on these things.
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>>1754564
No, they are mid tier fashion non-BSO bikes with considerable nostalgia bucks potential.
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>>1751471
>CAAD4
>mountain bike
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>>1754578
What in the heck got deleted?
I don't remember anything bannable in this thread .
What the hell ?
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>>1755147
someone must have been reporting random posts again
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>>1754374
Electrification rapidly eats through bike's resource.
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>>1755161
Are you Russian or Chinese, or why do you write like that?
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>>1755147
Sometimes you get banned for a single post and the rest of your posts in the board are also deleted.
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>>1754563
Nothing, but it takes the art out of it, look at modern car design or modern homes for example, they are all perfectly functional and efficient but where is the soul? There is something magical about any item that's been hand made by an experienced artizan or master craftsman, we all know it when we see it and it ain't there with anything CAD
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>>1755147
go ahead and post the image of me admitting it you fucking schizo I know youre watching this thread
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>>1755202
I don't think I understand
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>>1755233
I know you're waiting there to post it
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>>1755236
I am not the anon you think I am.
Someone is posting a screenshot that you dislike and you are somehow able to get it deleted?
Are you a mod?
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I'd give my right nut for this
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>>1755762
No idea what that is but it's beautiful
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>>1755815
WTB masterpiece, rare as hens teeth, an early 1980's sub 9kg off-road racer designed and hand built by the prophet Cunningham.
Rumours that one of these bikes sold for $40k a few weeks ago.
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>>1755861
Jesus, think how much it will be worth in twenty years
This market is getting lovo
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>>1755883
the same $20 it is now. some anon says there's "rumours" that one shit old bike sold for 40k to inflate the value of his own shit old bikes and you lap it up
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>>1755762
It's cool but if you want one so bad why not just re-create it? It's literally just an old 90's mtb with drop bars.
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>>1755892
because this is what he thinks rich people spend their money on - old bikes that are worse than new entry level hard tails
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>>1754563
too much freedom that your brain turns off
creativity goes up with limitations
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>>1755861
patrician taste anon, here's mine
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>>1756134
Wow, you have kept that in amazing condition
What do you think the current value is?
what do you have it insured for ?
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>>1755941
Wat?
Freeing your mind increases creativity
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>>1756134
Ba-COCK
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>>1757791
What?
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No affiliation, and I don't have room for this myself, but if you're into memes:
https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d/camarillo-cannondale-delta-1000/7440125419.html
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>>1757825
I thought all the Delta V1000 were full suspensions
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>>1756235
>insured
pfffffft
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>>1757861
anon please tell me its insured
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>>1756134
That's a beauty, holy fuck, Cunningham worked on these himself in person.
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>>1758364
you don't insure an old bicycle mate
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>>1758366
If its a collectible museum quality piece you damn sure do insure them
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>>1757825
That ad is still up , pretty sure its fake and they are up to some sort of a scam
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>>1758557
pffffft
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>>1758838
380 is just too much. A friend just bought one in nicer color and better condition for 150.
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>>1758557
is it the stem shifters or the clips that make you so hard you no taste retrogrouch moron
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>>1761813
Just the tyres would sell for about $250, the shifter mounts - not the shifters but the mounts - have sold in the past year for $1000+ at least two times, the frames are rare as hens teeth in any condition, that frame would be worth anywhere north of $5k, the bars another $200+, the forks - $1k+, that's if you find any of this stuff, all of it complete and in museum condition, who knows? they don't come to market very often but as things are now, with Cunningham and Pott's reputations growing and entering the mainstream consciousness... $10-15k+, it's rare as hell, perhaps no more than 20 in the world in that kind of condition, most of it has been hand built by actual genius and that includes the stem, the rear brake, the headset and bottom bracket.

You are advertising your immense ignorance.
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>>1761814
This, it's a Stradivarius of MTB, sits just below a pure Cunningham bike right at the top of the tree.
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>>1761814
>>1761816
no taste
no friends
no money
90s mtb life
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>>1761819
Consoomers will never understand what drives men to seek out quality, if it isn't fashion, if it's not being shilled to them day and night, if it isn't ''''this years model'''' it's simply beyond them.
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>>1761838
is this what passes for a culture in your barren hellhole of a country
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>>1761814
I dunno,

looks like any old piece of shit 90's mtb to me. What's the appeal?
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>>1761908
did you even read the thread?
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>>1761816
dem a little titties
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>>1750878
>Collectible bikes
Bike collector
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>>1765443
How does he get out without breaking all the eggs?
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>>1765443
What am I looking at here?
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>>1767099
the heat of the police cooks the jogger
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>>1768238
What?
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Someone on my buy and sell posted a used, stock 105 Surly Pacer for 2500$ (about 1000$ above MRSP), claiming it will soon be a hot collectors item because the model has been discontinued.
You can still buy this bike new, in-store for less than the asking price lmao.
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>>1770419
do you have a position in the collectible bike market?
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>>1767099
>>1768238
chuckled big style
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>>1761814
>even in my retarded fever dreams the best I can hope for is for my one prized possession in my filthy studio hotel to be worth slightly less than a good road bike
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>>1770663
not really, the only bike I own that may have collectors value has been abused pretty hard
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>>1770786
Sometimes I herd that can add to the value
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Do retards really?
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>>1773433
Not everyone has the skills or talent to do a nice job anon and its not thier fault and they dont need you to shame them
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>>1773751
But do they really need ruin old bikes I could tune up for hipster by spray painting them?
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stop bumping this shit troll thread
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>>1773771
How new are you?
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crescent executive titanium bicycle
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>>1777525
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>>1777526
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anyone had luck spray painting their bikes? pics?
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>>1777623
anon dont do that
a gentle cleaning and tune up is all a non proffesional should be doing
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>>1768238
Heh, a whole turkey
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>>1780531
Bacon!!!!
You know youre my hero right?
When you post here it makes my day!
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>>1780578
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>>1780597
wow a cow and a horse in the same picture
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>>1780598
idiot
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>>1773771
yeah, bump this one >>1778242
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>>1780598
If bacon was in the same room with you , you would crap your pants and cry
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>>1750878

My bike has never been taken care of in its life as well as I take care of it. Ebike conversions give new life to older bikes. I make sure that I can always de-convert it though, no permanent mods to the frame.

I did the pivot bearings, bb, chain, hub bearings, fork service and countless/constant tweaking to perfect this thing. God bless Marzocchi, their forks are the only ones that last forever if you service them. 2004 Rocky Mountain Switch with a Marzocchi Super T Pro. 1x6 with a 30T on the front and a Shimano Hyperglide 14-28 6-speed freewheel on the back. SRAM PC-971 chain and a RD-M786 Shadow+ 10-speed XT derailleur shifted by a vintage Suntour friction thumb shifter. Went with a 6-speed in the back because I needed the extra couple mm to slip into the dropouts without wrestling the thing.

I made two 1/4” steel torque arms to protect/reinforce the factory dropouts and support the 1500W hub motor. 7”/6” travel front/rear, on Schwalbe 2.4” Super Moto-X. KT 18-MOSFET controller, set at 1000W at the moment because 13S4P 12Ah battery can’t push the full 45A (25A BMS).

If you love bikes and electronics then ebike conversions are like combining your two favourite hobbies.
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>>1785098
I hope she sees this bro
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>>1785135
bacon is a man
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>>1787192
>can only read literally. metaphor, allegory and double entendre makes text imparseable
hello China!
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>>1787299
>joke
>head
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>>1787356
>>1787299
>>1787192
>>1785135


I cannot work out what happened here. Not any of it
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>>1787356
>>1787715
wow 2 Chinamen! and before you call me a schizo you should be aware I'm schizoaffective not schizophrenic and I AM DIAGNOSED
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>>1750878
The /k/ommandos know a similar pain; the sporterization and general bubbaing of old milsurp brings us great pain.
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>>1788011
gillette makes bikes?
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>>1788011
The more I see this frame the more I like it. It just seems so sturdy, with that extra small triangle in the frame
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Bought this old Dawes for £80, it's Reynolds 531 tubing and ius from 1984, I swear to God it's the most comfortable bike I ever rode, not the fastest but talk about hitting that sweet spot where it's fast enough and comfy enough.

I laughed a bit at the 90s mtb meme, but these old steel bikes are amazing, especially when you see what you get for the money, fuck, I spent 20x this much on bikes before and then spent hundreds more trying to get them this comfy.

WEithout doubt the best £80 I ever spent.
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>>1790674
what is going on with that saddle? please tell me that's the advert photo and you swapped it immediately.
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>>1790674
nice find
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>>1790692
Why fix comfy ?
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>>1790674
I wonder how much that would be worth on the US market
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>>1785121
>Ebike conversion
stopped reading right there, I don't care what weak, homoerotic, and lazy anons think.
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>>1756134
instant boner
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>>1756134
My uncle had one just like that
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>>1751471
Get a Foes mixer bike, with i9 wheels cane.creek suspension, eewings cranks. wear only kitsbow clothes. And then get everything else from the variety of Canadian companies. It will be far more made in America than your old "mountain bike" as literally everything aside from the frame was made in Asia.
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>>1800024
>Foes mixer
Thats collectible?
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>>1785121
>knobby on the back
>road tyre at the front
Why?
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>>1808375
>DIY e bike
it's called "being retarded".
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>>1808375
I have two Super Moto-X on there now but waited a bit to swap in the rear because it’s always a bitch to remove a rear hub motor to change the tire.
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>>1808390
Well fuck you too you nasty little fag.
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>>1757852
Yeah, that looks like an F500. Be wary out there, these clowns can smell money like it's blood in the water.
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>>1755941
Been watching a lot of Sam Hyde lately, huh anon?
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>>1812319
it's one of the principles of classical art
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>>1812431
Its also the principles of me banging your mom
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>>1812474
good show
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>>1750878
Mountain bike geometry have been getting better every year why would you want an old mountain bike?
They're not even aesthetic.
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>>1761816
imagine the smell of that saddle bros,,,
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>>1812474
>>1812479
I am trying to find the episode where he has a crying jag in the bathroom because Tim like some chicks sweater meat
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>>1814858
Mountain bike geometry has gotten better every year for riding up and down mountains, but that refined specialization means they are absolute dog shit for any other kind of riding.

90s mtbs however represent an early stage in their development, and therefore still retains much of the raod DNA that they were evolving out from, and so this is why they are considered peak bike, because they hit that sweetspot between on and off road versatility, durability, reliability, speed, performance and comfort.
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>>1817799
copium
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Kek just got a trek 4300 2014 model for 90 bucks, had it serviced and it's working great. It's not a collectors bike or vn that old but I love it so fucking much. Feels like I'm pedaling on a cloud.
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86 Cannondale 26x24 hill climber
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>>1790645
The effects and usefulness of the triple triangle have been debated until this day.
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>>1823934
A few brands, most prominently GT, have made it their signature design element.
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>>1817799
Indeed riding my modern Enduro bike on the road sucks while riding a 90s MTB on the road is good enough.
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>>1761813
A retrogrouch would ride it. A nerd collects it.
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>>1823981
like a gravel bike?
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one of a kind,
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>>1827490
>stamped v brakes
What a treat
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>>1827503
no noodle, so that's kinda dank
>tfw V brake arm flexes so much that the pad touches the tire
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>>1827490
for good reason
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>>1827528
Inner bar end shill? Is that you? I recognise the typing style.
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>>1827490
This is the lowest end bike I’ve ever seen in this thread lol
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>>1827537
I dont think a bike has to have started out as a high end bike to become collectible
Look that the1976 huffy evil kenivel bike
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>>1750878
Mine is over 20 years old, but I’m pretty sure it’s worthless, still in good shape, though.
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>>1823934
>>1823936
>parallel down tube & seat stays
these look so rad, but once you start going above 54cm sizes the geometry starts looking weird
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>>1831666
lmao
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>>1831682
It’s worthless, I know. Still a nice bike and nice for what I use it for.
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>>1831666
damn ugly bike but it looks pristine, congratulations
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>>1831666
lmao we're still in the age of early 90's shitters for 50 bucks.
Come back with an early 80's MTB in pristine condition if you want to collect.
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>>1827528
For the love of god
Change those brakes
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>>1831713
I don’t collect, I just wanted to show you guys my old mountain bike. I don’t have the space to collect anything else. I’m a sucker for 90’s stuff though and I love to ride, I might try to find one.
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>>1831743
It will be worth something someday and for now you are loving it
You win anon
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>>1785121
that shit looks like a gun not gonna lie
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>>1754540
Mein negger, good post. You nailed it. I mean that unironically. Because of what you captured in your post, I will continue searching for (commensurate on price & condition):
Your pic related
Rocky Mountain Element Team
Intense Tracer 1st gen
Intense Uzzi 1st gen
Santa Cruz Bullit 1st gen
Mountain Cycle San Andreas
Checker Pig Titanium
Yo Eddie Team
Ritchey P-21
Kona Hei Hei Team
AlpineStar TiMega or AlMega
Merlin Ti
1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Team
Specialized Stumpjumper with the carbon tubes and Al lugs, early 90's
Schwinn Homegrown Factory Suspension XTR
Schwinn Homegrown Straight 8
Yeti Ultimate

>>1754567
Personally I wouldn't consider Paul to be boutique. He and a few others were the answer to fully serviceable derailleurs, in an industry primarily controlled by Shimano along with addressing adjustable shift points such that the derailleur could be used on 6, 7 and 8 speed cassettes and associated shifters without being confided to a Shimano shifter & derailleur with specific indexing. Funnily enough, when Paul and others were released the prices were comparable to XTR...but now...holy shit. GL getting a Paul derailleur under $800 or so.
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>>1754540
Based a f
Early mtb was such a rare happening, a brand new sport, sprouting from a handful of isolated groups doing there own thing to a global phenomenon in less than a decade, think about it, Raleigh, who were at that time one of, if not the, biggest global force in cycling were so caught out by this new craze, that they had to set up a special projects division just to figure out what a mountain bike is and how to get the fuck into the game.

These days fads and crazes are invented top down, thought up by marketing departments and pushed onto the public in the hope that something sticks, the days of kids doing something that they love and that just takes on a life all of its own, completely bypassing the megacorps, forcing them to take notice and play catch up while enthusiasts are already out there pushing the envelope, they're long gone.

Mountain Biking was the last true grass roots consumer revolution, imagine that, a time when people were forced to cobble together the bikes they needed because the industry was too busy inhaling their own farts and churning out cookie cutter BMX, road and commuter bikes to notice what the world was actually crying out for.

Amazing, a golden age indeed, and some of the bikes and parts that emerged from that tumultuous period are simply some of the best ever built.
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>>1832529
lol these pastas are great.
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>>1755202
kek i just post it in your head now
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>>1755861
>designed and hand built by the prophet Cunningham
Jesus Fucking Cringe. I was about to jerk off, but you did enough for the both of us.
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Bianchi 1912, standard issued bicycle for the Bersaglieri.

Not the internal rod brakes. And The suspension, both front and rear.
Solid tires, foldable, fixed-gear.
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>>1832766
Also notice the 4 possible gears, 2 on the rear wheel and 2 on the front wheel. Those giant chunks of metal attached to the wheels are designed to be able to unscrew the wheel manually, with no tools.
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>>1832531
thats not pasta
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>>1812474
Holy shit, very underrated show. I don't know anyone else who's seen this.
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>>1832936
It is now
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>>1827532
There is more than one person shilling for inner bar ends (at least everyone who has ridden them)
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>>1832529
That bike is fucking unreal. Having seen the prices for Cook Bros pedals and cranks I imagine that must up in the thousands, whatever it's such a cool looking thing, even with no branding that shape with the fillet brazing etc is subllime. Man I'd love to ride that, 90s mtb a decade early.
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>>1832773
>>1832766
What is the estimated value at auction of something like this?
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>>1837627
it would be very expensive
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>>1834360
I'm not that anon but I shill for them 100% too.



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